Week 2 Matchups + Ketchup Mode, In-or-Out - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/18

In week one, there's a lot to unpack, and another week of data would be good. Anybody else from this game in Grankowski, you're not thinking about Grankowski, are you? No, if you're looking for a touchdown, maybe. Then you look to O.J. Howard? I would play O.J. Howard, yeah. All right. The Washington football team, look at this. Look at this disrespect. I'm staring at our show, Doc. I have Washington football team 0 and 1 at Arizona Cardinals O'N1.

Unbelievable. These are two undefeated teams. Brooks. Unbelievable. How could we let this slip through the cracks, these two juggernaut division leaders? I see what you're doing, Brooks. I can't even believe that one of these teams has to lose. They haven't lost all season. Right. And now just by math, unless a tie happens, one of them has to come out as a shocking.

you know, loser in this game. All right. The Cardinals are seven point favorites. It's a 46.5 point over under. It's in Arizona. Implied point total 26.8 for Arizona, 19.8 for Washington. You look at the defensive line in Washington. It was so impressive in week one. Eight sacks against a beat-up offensive line for Philadelphia. Kyler was sacked 48 times last year. There is going to be

an opportunity for that defensive line to cause some havoc for Kyler. Pace of play in this game based on week one. Super fast. It's going to be fast. Washington ran 70 plays the year before in the Adrian Peterson offense. They were dead last. So this was a huge change for Washington. More opportunities. It means more fantasy production, whether it's Antonio Gibson or Terry McLaur and anybody. And that's...

Both teams playing fast, which means a lot of fantasy points, elongated clock, because there's going to be a lot of passing opportunity. You know, if you like taking over unders based on pace of play, you would take the over in this game, which is good news for fantasy. I, you know, we've had a lot of discussion through the offseason through week one on Antonio Gibson. And I think the consensus is wait and see. I.

This is a matchup to me that I kind of want to have him out there. He was a player two away from having a good game last week. And while we have pointed out that the 32nd rank against the run against Arizona is kind of hollow, one broken play, it is worth noting that there was an electrically fast running back that caused a broken play, and they gave up a long touchdown. So to say that that could happen again for Gibson, I see him as a flex option. You know, I think you persuaded me.

in that argument. Yes. Because I, because, look, they're going to give snaps to Peyton Barber for a period of time in this game. But the game script, the Vegas line, the situation. Now, Mike, I mean, there's always the chance to get down on the goal line and it's Barber for another one. But the game script tells me that Gibson is going to be out there more than he was last week. He was only out there for 26% of snaps. It was a very close game.

over the second half of the game, and they had the goal line opportunity. It didn't happen from 10 yards out when he scored. I think you can flex Antonio Gibson. And I didn't think that before you spoke. Yeah, I mean, the play, and it was a receiving play that's not going to be Peyton Barber. Like, Barbara reminds me, I don't know if you guys have heard this. This is an old adage from Arizona native Ron Wolfley.

Oh, the Dirty Bird. One of the Cardinals announcers, but he has his go-to because he was a fullback in the league, and he would say, Coach, if you need two yards, I'll give you two yards. Coach, if you need four yards, I'll give you two yards. Like, that's Peyton Barber. Yeah, yeah. Stop giving the ball to Peyton Barber. Well, look, most of the time when you're two yards away from the end zone, Mike.

You only need two. And he was effective and they won. And I'm sorry. You might have to wait a week or two. I agree. I'm very happy to be not the one who's walking the Gibson line right now, like that there's more people on board. But hopefully it's this week. If you do play Peyton Barber and you're chasing the two touchdowns from last week, you are banking on a touchdown. So he is a touchdown independent play. Kenyon Drake?

We have the question here. Is he an RB one rest of season? I love this question. I mean, he's played one game against San Francisco. So I think that Kenyon Drake and Chase Edmonds will both be involved. Drake will be the one. Is he a one rest of season? I think he's always been right on the fringe. I love this question because, you know, the question of am I still confident in what I believed about Kenyon Drake? I am.

100% confident in what I believed in. Nothing that I saw in week one led me to believe that he won't be a running back one this season. Will he be a top three absolute breakout superstar? No, but that's not where you drafted him. You didn't draft him in the top three. You drafted him at the back of the first or the top of the second. And I think he's going to warrant that. Even in last week when you had Chase Edmonds end up with one of those.

goal line carries that succeeded. He still had a good line. And when you watched the game and you watched the film, his talent looks special. You know, they still needed to pick up the first down at the end of that game with the San Francisco 49ers selling out to stop that run. And he just beat him. He looked good in the game. So I'm still 100% in on Kenya Drake. All right, Terry McLaurin in this game, it could be a tough matcha, Patrick Peterson. McClorin, kind of the only target on the outside.

The number one starts hit question on the website right now is DJ Chark at Tennessee or Terry McLaren. Oh, this is a mic special. That's number one, because that is a very difficult question. I mean, they, because both of these players, oh, I am being looked at. You have the floor. I feel like I'm the prettiest boy in the school right now. You are the prettiest boy at the table right now. Because Terry McLaren and DJ Chark to me are their weekly plays.

That's an unfortunate situation if you're having to decide which one you go with. I would go with, I think I'd go with Terry McLaurin if I have to choose between one of these two. Logan Thomas, a sneaky snart? Yep. Okay. Thomas or Herndon against San Francisco. I, man, if you did not see it, I don't remember if we're talking about the Jets today or not. If you did not see Mike Greenberg. Oh.

Just bring out a blow torch. Number two. To number two today on air. It was just, oh, it filled me with like, like, I don't want to disparage a man, but it's like, number two. But apparently it was a quote like from the owner of the jets saying that Adam Gaze has an incredible offensive mind. And then to see the national media.

just point out every single thing we've talked about that said, if Adam Gays doesn't have Peyton Manning, Hall of Fame Peyton Manning on his team, his offense stink. And then everyone who escapes Adam Gays, then they become really good. I would have been such a good offensive coordinator with Peyton Manning. I really would have. Genuant, you would have. It's like the Ken Wisenhunt with Kurt Warner years. Wisenhunt rode those coattails to other offense of coordinator jobs for years. Here's Adam Gays riding Peyton Manning's coattails to,

Look, watch the video. Mike and I both retweeted it. It's ridiculous because it breaks down like 20 metrics to Adam Gaze is like basement dwelling with. Yeah, because the Peyton Manning strategy is... How do we get to Adam Gays in the middle of a Washington, Arizona break down? Because you said Hernd Day. Oh, okay. But the Peyton Manning strategy is you're on the sideline. Peyton, what are you seen out there? What do we think we should do? And then Peyton Manning does it.

Yeah, sweet. I'll just sit here. He probably told Peyton to do something different. Peyton just changed it, the line. Yeah, I mean, honestly. He tried to run his offense, and he probably thought those plays were his. He probably thought those were his plays. Adam Gase, you've done it again. That one looked a little different than I drew it up, but I'm a brilliant man. So, yeah, it is a criticism based in the reality of what happens on the field. That's really what it is. But anyways, Logan Thomas versus Chris Herndon.

Look, they both had decent volume. And until the Arizona Cardinals prove that they have improved against the tight end, I'm still going to target that matchup. So I would play Logan Thomas over Herndon. All right, Hopkins is in your lineup. That's why we're not talking about him. You should play him. He's good. But you probably aren't starting anybody else in Arizona. Yeah, I mean, maybe Kirk, but outside of Drake and Kyler. Correct. Kyler's at QB7 on the week. Kenyon Drake's at RB 14 on the week.

Yeah, I don't think I'm going to, it's a wait and see on Kirk. I'm probably not going to start Fitzgerald the entire season. And, you know, the Dan Arnold breakout is obviously, it's coming. Well, the postman always delivers. Yeah, I mean, it's in route, according to my app. The tracking? Yeah. Yeah, I got the notification. I just don't know when it's going to arrive. All right. Well, maybe this week. Kansas City Chiefs take on the Los Angeles Chargers.

Chiefs are eight and a half point road favorites. It's a 47.5 point over under. This now reminds me of one of my takeaways from last night's game. You see how good Baker and the Cleveland Browns looked against the Bengals? Yeah. You know who couldn't move the ball against the Cincinnati Bengals? Tyrod Taylor. Tyron Taylor and the Los Angeles Chargers. This is, I have abandoned ship. I mean, I'm starting Austin Echler, but this is.

This is not a good situation. I will give you a personal choice that I am having to make. I have Keenan Allen right now sitting in my flex. Yeah, you talked about this yesterday. And I grabbed Scotty Miller off with the waiver wire because I'm with Andy. I think Scotty Miller is a good play regardless of Godwin playing, is a great play if Godwin unfortunately misses the game. And I'm sitting here going one week in, do I put Keenan Allen on my bench?

to play Scotty freaking Miller. And I'm leaning that I do. What's your guys' take on that? My only take is that the past attempts, I mean, it was 16 completions for Tyrod Taylor last week. The chance of them getting boat raced and playing a second half of garbage time, it seems somewhat high in this one. So I would, the only, that'd be the negotiation I'd be having mentally with the Scotty Miller play.

Because I don't want to get beat with a huge Keenan Allen game on my bench. And then if the second half of this game ends up being thinking dunk, Allen can do that. Percentage chance that Justin Herbert is in the football game in the second half of this game. Zero. Ten. I would put it at non-zero.

Yeah, non-zero, but it's very low. I do agree, and I think this is the important fantasy takeaway for this game that is different from what we saw last week is what Andy just brought up. They will be down in this game. I realize that the Chargers have a great defense, but they're not, I mean, greatness versus greatness, Pat Mahomes wins. And I expect the Chargers to be down in this game. So certain things we saw week one won't be able to happen. They won't be able to play as slow. They won't be able to run the ball as

much in the second half. Joshua Kelly, someone that I would really like to flex, he's in that consideration with my Leonard Fournette and Peyton Barber, awful situation for the running back too. Justin Jackson has been missing practice. I think he's not going to play. I agree. They actually signed another running back. Oh, yeah. Justin Jackson is not going to play. And Joshua Kelly looked good, but I don't think this is the week for him because when you're down, it's going to be Austin Echler.

The goal line opportunities, I don't see being there like they were against the Bengals. So to that point, I think I would go Keenan Allen here. I think there will be more passing volume. He had eight targets last week, which granted turned into 37 yards. But the second half, I lean Keenan here. Well, would you play him over Mike Williams, who had a bigger week last week? So my rankings right now have Keenan ahead of Mike Williams. And it seems dumb. It seems dumb because.

These targets, I don't rely on Tyrod Taylor targets, so I want whatever targets to come to be high value. Kenan's weren't high value. Mike Williams are. They're down the field. He only needs two or three receptions to have a decent fantasy game. I think I need to adjust those rankings and have them pretty much next to each other user choice. In a full PPR league, I would go Keenan. Outside of that, I'd probably go Mike Williams. Mike Williams had...

More targets. One more, but is still more. It's tough because you can look at the charger side of the ball and say, well, I want to play Echler, and then maybe Alan and Williams are okay. But then I have Hunter Henry as my start of the week at tight end, who I think benefits. And all four of these players, they're not having a good week this week. Hunter Henry is the best option for the respective position out of all of these plays. The last, you know.