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Week 7 Matchups + The Rumble Bumble Stumble - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/23

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Week 7 Matchups + The Rumble Bumble Stumble - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/23

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What kind of gift? I mean, you don't get better than that. That is correct. An autograph piece of sports memorabilia for your favorite player. They've got current players. You know, Devante Adams signed cleat for 58 bucks this past week. Noah Fant signed jersey, $70. T. Higgins, up and coming, $65. So you can kind of play these current names, the fantasy names. You can even look at some legends.

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Maybe that's the gift you want to give your father, your mom. Somebody who has a fan from, you know, days gone by. You can check that out at pristineauction.com. Like I said, use the code ballers. Old people love gifts. Old, young. I mean. I think people like gifts. People in general. And they're affordable. So definitely check them out. All right. Back into the matchups, the Kansas City Chiefs at 5 and 1 taking on the 2 and 3 Denver Broncos. Breaking news. So.

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terrifying. You might want to update your beliefs on Joe Mixen, Andy. Declared out? Out. Adam Schefter reporting. All right. I'm going to officially change my projection for Joe Mixon. Oh, man. Actually, no, I'm not, because I said if he's active playing. And he's not. That's big news. Yes. So, Gio Bernard will. Yeah, by this time he's been picked up in every league. If he's available in anybody's league, you must pick him up.

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He's a great start, I think. You do? I do. When you have a backup like Giovanni Bernard coming in, who has proven capable in the past, and they don't really have anybody to share the work, I mean, he won't be getting 100%. But a lot of times when those backups come in, they get even more work than the starter got because they are the only capable backup. Are you ready for, are you ready for Somage AP, Ryan?

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Oh, man, the pain bot? The pain bot plus Trayvion Williams, maybe. Maybe. Yeah, Trayvon. A little bit of both. Maybe. Geo hasn't looked spry in a long, long time. So if he doesn't catch the ball, honestly, he's identical to what Boston Scott was yesterday, in my opinion. That's how I would project them both. I think they're both not great runners, and they're both very capable in the passing game. So.

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That's how I'd look at it. He is worth a start to me. He jumps up into the running back two area. Takes on Cleveland. All right. Well, no mixing instead of Joe mixing. That's sad. All right, the Chiefs at 5'1. The Broncos, after the big win over New England last week, the McManus victory. The Chiefs are nine and a half point road favorites in this one, 46 point over under. I don't think that strategy is going to work this week. You know, at the end of the day,

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They are not going to be able to score enough points. I mean, that's just what it comes down to. The Broncos are not going to be able to score enough points against the Chiefs in this game. Don't worry, no almost upset coming here for Drew Lock and Company. Mahomes is 5-0 versus Denver in his career. It's, I don't know, 46 point over-under. That's not a lot that puts 27 points on the chief side, 18 on the Broncos side. Melvin Gordon didn't play last week. So he's fresh. He's ready to go.

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I mean, I guess you're playing Melvin Gordon, but Philip Lindsay looked good. Of course you are playing Melvin Gordon, but you have to remember back to week one. Philip Lindsay was getting opportunities. So we haven't, unfortunately, we haven't able to see the true timeshare between Melvin Gordon and Philip Lindsay. Lindsay is going to be, he's going to take into the fantasy ceiling of Melvin Gordon. So yeah, you are playing Gordon?

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But you aren't getting those couple weeks of workhorse volume that you were getting while Philip Lindsay was out. All right. We don't know on the other side of the ball whether Levi-on Bell will make his debut in this game. And if he does, are you willing to...

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to take the risk on Flexicim. Clyde Edwards Lear was outstanding, and the Broncos' defensive front is great against the run. Yeah, they have been phenomenal against the run. I don't expect Leveon Bell if he is active to get more than seven or eight touches total. And when you're doing that against this great defense, in a divisional matchup that, you know, look, I realize that Denver is a team right now that is...

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hurting and the arrow is not pointing up. And of course, you're facing the defending Super Bowl champs. But, you know, I do think it's going to be a little bit closer of a game. You know, I wouldn't call it my almost upset because I don't know how Denver really scores a lot. Noah Fant is back. Yeah, I mean, having Noah Fant and Melvin Gordon is certainly going to help me better than it was last week.

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For what it's worth in those five games that Mahomes has played against Denver, Kansas City has never scored more than 30 points in any of those five games. And the defense for Denver did look good last week. So I don't disagree with you that it could be lower scoring, which will make it closer, but I just don't know if the Broncos can keep up. It's supposed to be a very cold weather game in the 20s. If it were to drop a few more degrees, that's where you start to see fantasy actually.

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take a turn and go into the running game and away from the passing game once it gets, you know, below the 20s. Right now it's projected to be 23 degrees. All right. It's 93 degrees out here in Arizona right now. But Lev Bell, not worthy of, you know, we'll see if he takes away from Clyde on third downs, goal line. It's almost, you know, if Bell's active, we're all observing what this backfield breakdown is going to be. If he's active, I'm still starting Clyde Edwards away.

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Clyde Edwards-Layer the way I would be starting him otherwise. All right. I've been defending Tim Patrick. We've got Tim Patrick and Jerry Judy. Tim Patrick, 80% snap count compared to 69% for Judge Judy. Nice. Red zone touchdowns. Patrick has two. None for Judy. Top 36 weeks. Patrick has three. Judy has one. Target shares are similar. Judy is slightly ahead.

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Over the last two weeks, Tim Patrick is averaging a 27% target share, though, which is super nice. The question, though, for Tim Patrick is what happens now that Noah Fant is back? I don't think anything. You think you'll still be that involved? Because Noah Fants has been out two, is it two weeks or is he missed three? I mean, they heavily targeted the tight-in position last week without Noah Fant. Yeah, I guess that's right. Robert O. Yeah. Showed up.

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They involved them. So I don't think anything really changes there. So are you playing, let's just go within this game. Tim Patrick as your fringe flex upside play or DeMarcus Robinson from Kansas City, who was on the field a ton. We all hoped that McColl Hardman will be the one who got on the field more, take things up with opportunities. But DeMarcus Robinson, 34 routes run last week. He was involved. He.

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So between those two guys, where are you going? I know the production has been with Patrick the last couple of weeks getting over that Hyundai. That's where I'm going. But in this match, are you going Patrick? Yeah, I would go with Patrick. I mean, game script, they're going to have to throw the football. Patrick has been great. Him and Judy, I don't look at them very differently from one another as a spot start, but Patrick, two straight weeks of over 100. Jason, Tim Patrick or Jerry Judy? Jerry Judy. Why? Because I love him. I think he's...

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I think he's great. We've got one game back from the injury with Drew Locke. It was against the New England Patriots where they're shutting down the number one option. And they saw Judy as the number one option, regardless of what we saw. They let Tim Patrick beat him. He beat him. I'm not saying they let Travis Fulgum beat him. He beat him. Sure. But I'm saying they focused their energy on Jerry Judy. Okay.

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I mean, I can't really argue with because I love him, so I'll let it go. Look, I like the honesty. Yeah, sure. I mean, Jerry Judy has one game, one game all year where you were happy you started him. It was because of a bomb touchdown pass. But would you play Tim Patrick over to Marcus Robinson? Yes. Okay. Travis Kelsey, yep, Noah Fant should be back, full practice. And I'm playing him. Yeah, your confidence in Noah Fant is...

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I felt like I had it in the off season, but you have exceeded. I stole it. You have exceeded us at this point. Shank-sung, I've stolen your soul. See, I thought Albert O looked good last week as well. Albert O is banged up. The report is that he's on track to play, but you combine that with Noah Fant is the guy. He's the main tight end for this team. Okay. The San Francisco 49ers at 3 and 3 take on the 2 and 3 New England Patriots this week. Patriots are two-point home favorites.

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against the 49ers. This game has a minuscule 43.5 point over under. Got a couple of defenses. San Francisco took such a movement forward on that defensive side of the ball last week, getting back. Mosley, it changed a lot for what they were able to do because they had been kind of beat up over the past few weeks. New England's passing game hasn't looked great. I think that, you know, this line, the 43 and a half.

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really limits what we're going to see fantasy-wise in this game. And I wouldn't be surprised if this is a lower, like I would take the under, I think, in this matchup. Yeah, I completely agree. You have two great defenses. You have two of the teams with the slowest pace of play. These are teams that run the ball. One does it with their quarterback. The other does it with a slew of running backs. And, you know, with.

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With Rahim Moster being out of the game, I don't expect the San Francisco 49ers run game to be anywhere near as effective. So, yeah, this projects to be a low-scoring, poor fantasy output game. If you wanted to pivot off of cam, this would be the type of game that you would want to do that. I still think he's somewhat safe because of his rushing floor. But, you know, Jimmy Gropolo can have big games and bad games. This does not appear to be a Jimmy Gropolo game.

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So if your confidence in the run game is a little hesitant on this match, what about the confidence in their alternate run game, which is where they just throw the ball backwards to guys like Debo and Brandon Ayukin? Yeah, I mean, I think that's going to be. Are you playing Debo? No, I'm not playing Debo. I'm not playing Iyuk out for this game. I don't want the passing game or.

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I know we've talked a lot about Jerich McKinnon and whether we believe he will get the work. Is Jeff Wilson going to be active? If he is, will Jamichael Hasty be involved? At the end of the day, all the arguments for or against McKinnon, the four arguments still have a low ceiling in this matchup. I am on the McKinnon's side, but I don't expect a phenomenal game this week in this matchup.

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Yeah, I'm not excited about many of the options in this one. I would play Devo Samuel. I'd be willing to play him. I know he's going to have six to eight opportunities. George Kittle, of course. But I can't find anybody on the New England side that I want to start. No, I mean, James White in a pinch, because if you're in a PPR league, you can get 10 points? Can I unstart Devanta Freeman from last night and put like James White in? Because it's got to be better.

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Probably will, but yeah. The difficulty with White and Harris, it's game script. Which one's going to happen? Do you think the Patriots will be up? Then Damien Harris is going to see a bunch of opportunities. If they're down, it's James White. And this is a tricky one to project. Can we add a Thursday night, whoops, situation? A mulligan? Like, in our league? So, like, if you start somebody on Thursday and then they...

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lay an egg, you can change them out so you're not depressed going into the weekend? I don't think you can do that with a Thursday game, but you could make a universal rule where every team gets one bench whoopsie. That would be a fun rule to me. I wouldn't want it in our league of record, but if you're playing in a fun league where you get one mulligan every week on a start-sit decision. I can't believe we never even talked about Evan Ingram's disaster of a...

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that's true mike i've been keeping you in a good mood i'm sorry to bring no no it's i i figured out what happened with evan engram uh because they've just been throwing him these low average depth of targets targets i have like just absolutely mismanaging evan ingram uh was running deep was open because he's a super athletic tight end who can get open against that type of coverage and he dropped a pass uh

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That would have won the game. It would have won the game. I think Evan Ingram was just so surprised that he actually received that target. Downfield? That he just wasn't prepared to catch the ball. So we're back to apologizing for him. That's right. Oh, God. That's right. Oh, Jason. I know what you were feeling when you saw that play. Jason just hates Evan Engram because he drafted him. No, no. I hated Evan Ingram.

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