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PANIC ROOM + Buy/Sell, Melvin Returns?

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and the ceiling to be the number one, that looks like a very low probability bet. But I'm not worried about Devante Adams because I do believe touchdowns are coming. Last week was a horrific matchup for him with Chris Harris Jr. I, you know, Aaron Rogers came out and said, I want to get the ball to Devante Adams more, and he's the one that controls that.

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I think Devante Adams is still, you know, he's a great buy low candidate to me because if the owner believes what you believe, Andy, that his upside is really capped now if they're not throwing the ball and you could sell him a little bit cheaper. I think you're going to, even if you're not getting the number one, you're getting a super talented wide receiver who's going to be a consistent, great fantasy producer. And I always want those on my team. Rogers did say before the season, he wants to give.

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Devante Adams more targets than he had last year and through three games, executing on the hope hasn't happened. So I don't read a lot into him saying he definitely needs more now. Sure, but if he said it right before the season and didn't do it through three games. Yeah, I mean, offseason hype is one thing, but literally referring to what just happened and correcting mistakes, I think that's a little bit more actionable than just offseason, you know, responding to a question. Four targets is silly and won't happen a lot. Mike.

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I'm at a one. I don't blame people if they are a bit panicked. I still think that Devante Adams will finish the season as a top five guy. I think it starts this week against the Eagle secondary with a hondo and a touchdown. And the worries go away. Much like with Mike Evans last week, I think you're by low. You're by low window. It's about to slam shut. Todd Gurley in the panic room. Todd Gurley is the RB 25 on the season.

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You can hit that button. Say, I'm grabbing me a 75-inch television. Is that you're looting? I am looting the streets. I'm grabbing guitars. I'm grabbing everything that doesn't belong to me because I am freaked out, man. Freaking out. Six red zone rush attempts through three weeks. 18 red zone attempts in 2018, including 10 red zone rushing attempts in week two against the Cardinals alone. So this year.

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Jason brought it up earlier this week when we were kind of reflecting in the weekly rewind on Todd Gurley. He has four catches for eight yards in three games. That's why I'm freaking out. 100%. Brad Evan says he's basically a better version of Sony Michelle right now. Two years ago, 87 targets, 64 receptions. Last year, 81 targets, 59 receptions. This is a 60 reception.

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player. That's who Todd Gar. That's how he destroyed NFL teams. His pace through three games is 32 targets, 21 receptions. That would be what Marlon Mack does that we're like, well, this guy doesn't catch the ball. I don't expect it to stay this bad as far as the passing work. I think that I've been talking to some of my Rams fan friends, you know, they're diehard, they watch every game. And that's the one thing I keep bringing up is like,

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Where is the screen game for the Rams in general? They dominate that, you know, with the screen. They have the past two years, yeah. And they're just not even running the play. I can't imagine that just for some reason continues. And they're like, yeah, we took that out. We don't like what we were doing when we were killing teams with a screen game. But it's super concerning. And the day of Todd Gurley being a beast for fantasy, that's just kaput. It's not like the injury concerns are gone.

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Right. Yeah, and those still exist. They're not any different than they were before the season when, you know, the concerns and the risk and the worry. Now, they're 3-0. They're 3-0 with this offense. They have, you know, Cooper Cup, another year in the league. You know, the screen game, you know, I don't know how that changed with Cooper Cup in and out of the lineup and the dependency on it. But there's a lot of risk here. I'm a 4. Mike, you're a 4. I'm absolutely a 4. The Rams running backs have the lowest market share of...

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of attempts of any team in the NFL. And Todd Gurley, that's, that's where he was killing people. It makes no sense. We're only three games in, so smaller sample. However, three games in, and Todd Gurley's sitting here with eight receiving yards. Like, that's, you got to panic. You knew that the touchdowns and attempts were going to go down, but the receiving work is a shock.

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All right, George Kittle. People want to talk about George Kittle because you haven't had that big game yet. Tied in 13 on the year. Obviously drafted to be a top three guy at the position. I'm a one. I'm a one with you, Andy. Mike has a two. I'm a two. Right now he's third in yards after the catch. He was number one in that in 2018, so he's still doing that. Tied for second among tight ends with five red zone targets. He had a couple of touchdowns called back.

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ones he actually caught, unlike the kind of T.J. Hawkinson ones you drop. Right. Uh, category. Uh, 25% target share in 2018 or, I'm sorry, 26% last year, 25% this year. If you had two of his touchdowns that were called back on, you know, holdings that didn't really affect the play, nobody's worried in the slightest about Kittle. He had 10 targets week one, eight targets last week. He is a really great option at tight end.

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He's the clear target leader for the team, even though some of these other wide receivers are stepping up. George Kittles is the number one for that team. I'm not worried in the slightest. The one concern I have, and it has to do with the success of the defense. Last year, this was a team that passed the ball 57% of the time. This year, they're 43%. That is the second largest change in the league outside of Minnesota. They have the highest run-to-pass ratio.

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in neutral game scripts of any team in the NFL. Like their path to glory is running the ball. And so last year there were a terrible defense and had backup quarterbacks in. So when I look at that number about, okay, his target share in the offense is the same. It's not. I mean, total targets and stuff like that changed because if you have the same percentage of targets, but the targets total go down, that is the only concern that I have. But we also knew going into the season that, look, you're not going to break the NFL's.

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receiving yardage record on every play. And he does have the ability to do what Engram did last week, you know, to break an 86-yard touchdown run. And not many players can do that. His yards after the catch is, you know, Gronkian from days of old. So I'm a one. Mike, you're a two. And I'm a two. The same way you are with Devonta Adams is just what he was drafted to be. Can he still reach?

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close to that level. I mean, and last year, I know it's, it even pains me a little bit to bring it up and point out, though, George Kittles' dominance was not with Jimmy Garoppolo. Like, just there was a better connection with guys like Nick Mullins. It's possible at this point. Kittle will still be a high level tight end, but is you going to be a top three guy? Yeah, I mean, I go back to those touchdowns that were.

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called back. It was, it was still Jebby Garoppel this season that was throwing the ball to Kittle and getting in the end zone. They just, you know, got a call back. All right. Let's get into the Thursday night preview. Thursday night breakdown. Stepping out of the panic room. Feels good. Because you guys watched that movie long ago, right? Oh, yeah. Jody Foster. Yeah. It got a lot of, uh, got a lot of publicity because it was like shot in one spot.

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For the whole movie in like two weeks or something. Yeah. The budget had to be in low, right? I mean, Jody Foster was making bank. We don't know. That's true. That's true. Did it make you want your own, like, your own panicker at your house? Are you a fearful man, Jason? Do you want to go hide in a secret, you know, closet? No. If I were to pay up on some sort of protective something, it would definitely be a tunnel system.

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I want to own a house that's like three houses away from mine and have an underground tunnel connecting them. So I can just get in and out. You got to own all the property in between that house and the other one. Oh, no. No, I just go deep. Oh, really? They won't know. I don't know the legality, but they won't know that I've built a tunnel system. Just stay out on rainy days. Under their house. Yeah. Okay.

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That is a good point. How will they know? Yeah, they won't. They'll know when the gas line breaks and the whole neighborhood explodes. Deeper. Go deeper. The answer to all these problems is just go deeper. Just not too deep to the core. The core of the earth is your concern? That's the biggest. That's the number one concern with tunnels. There is some room between the gas lines and the core of the earth. That's where I live. That's me and the mole people.

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Thursday night. Good to know. Thursday night, the Eagles at one and two. Take on the Packers in Green Bay. Array. Packers are four and a half point favorites. I'm just so happy to talk about this unlike last Thursday. This should be a fun game. This should be awesome. I mean, you got Carson Wins against Aaron Rogers. This is going to be good. And Carson Wins should have Alshon Jeffrey back. I think that makes a big difference. When he's missing Alshaw Jeffrey and Ashon Jackson, you could tell.

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the struggles the Eagles were having on offense. Now, this isn't quite panic room, but maybe he belongs there. 23rd in the NFL. Aaron Rogers is 23rd in air yards. That is between the now injured Cameron Newton and Eli Manning. The now benched Eli Manning? Yeah, and that's also boosted by that Hail Mary to Jimmy Graham in week one. So is this a different Aaron Rogers? Yes. Apply the same panic level scale to Aaron Rogers. Oh, my panic level with Aaron Rogers.

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I'd put it out of three. I think he's a three for me too. Because it's one of the hardest things in fantasy football for any owner that's played in fantasy for five or six years and knows what Aaron Rogers used to be to change that mindset, to be willing to, you know, I know Al Borland has Aaron Rogers in our league of record. I don't, and he's a Packer fan. I don't know if he'll ever, like, rotate to another. No.

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Quarterback. He's shaking his head no, regardless of the outcome. In his heart, he wants to. He has the QB6 on the year. In Footland, we recommend that you don't do what our warland does. I was like Rogers. This is not the six? Okay. Yeah, we, I like Rogers this week against the Eagles. So he's the QB6 by our rankings, consensus rankings this week. Eagles defense giving up the third most passing yards per game in 2018. You know, they give up the fifth most.

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I'm sorry, that was, yeah, last year. And then this year, their fifth worst. So they're not able to stop the passing game. And this should bode well at home for Aaron Rogers. I agree. That's why I said that this is the bounce back game for me for Verdevanti Adams. I'm probably okay starting MVS if we're looking at the wide receiver position as well. He had the 10 targets. I'm not expecting that. If there's a flip-a-roo,

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between Devanti Adams 10 or Marquez 10 and Devante's 4. That won't shock me at all. But this eagle secondary is beatable. I loved Kenny Gawaday last week. It didn't work out because it turned into Marvin Jones. Someone for the Packers team is going to succeed. And I truly believe it will be Adams. At the running back position, Miles Sanders.

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Jordan Howard on the Philly side, Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams on the Green Bay side. Last week, Jamal Williams actually outsnapped Aaron Jones. Because of course. Well, yeah, because of course. We have Aaron Jones as the RB 15 on the week. He's actually not been very efficient, effective, some of the things we've seen from Aaron Jones in years past. He's 31st out of 32 qualified running backs and yards after contact. That's a problem.

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40 routes run just 44 receiving yards. 3.8 per carry. He was that guy in the Jamal Charles category previously. Right. So that comes with a little bit probably more of a commitment to giving in the ball and a change in some of the way that this team is, you know, they've been ahead. They've been winning games. When you run the ball, a lot of the times when you're ahead, you lose some of that efficiency because the defense knows what is coming. But what do you make of this week for Aaron Jones going up against this Philly defense?

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I mean, it's nice to see he's got three touchdowns over the last two weeks, but you've got to be a little worried that he's becoming touchdown dependent. He only had one reception for one yard last week. Only 10 carries. The Eagles defense is so far through the first three weeks. They've given up the fifth fewest points to the running back position. I love that he's at home in a game they're expected to win. Those things are positive for Aaron Jones. I don't make too much.

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of the inefficiencies here. There's a couple of players that have been, you know, Sony, carry-on, Aaron Jones. They have been inefficient, but I think it's a small sample size and specifics of which carries they're getting. When you're getting goal line carries, you're max out at a yard. And that's a, you know, that's a great run. And so, you know, it's one of those things where you're starting Aaron Jones.

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