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PANIC ROOM + Buy/Sell, Melvin Returns?

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verified sources of Schefter and Rapaport. They were tweeting how, okay, we've got inside sources. Leveon Bell's coming back this week. Oh, he didn't come back. Okay, my source now says it will not be later than this date, and of course, Levin & Bell didn't show up. So if you have Echler right now, are you trying to scrape whatever little value is out there, or are you just holding on for the ride? I don't think you could trade Echler.

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for much right now. I think you have to hold on for the ride. If you wanted to try to go out as Echler owner and trade for Melvin Gordon, you could try, but probably with this news, you're not going to be able to get them for, you know, anything but top dollar. Let me ask. The other side is to reverse that and go out, go to the Melvin Gordon owner and say, hey, will you pay me top dollar for Echler? Because then you have him.

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and then he's your handcuff. But again, I'm not actively shopping him because I think I'm going to get a week or two of top tier value out of him. And there is a narrative here that I can find where Echler has a little bit better value than he did last year. You know, you do not have Antonio Gates or Hunter Henry. You have a banged up Travis Benjamin. You have a low target volume Mike Williams right now and a high target volume Keenan Allen. So there may be a little bit more room.

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for consistency in the passing game for Austin Echler, and he's been the guy in camp and not been the guy holding out and been committed to the team. So there could be a little bit more lasting, staying power to Echler than we even believe. So hypothetically, though, if someone else has Austin Echler, and they were offered a trade of Miles Sanders and then either Will Fuller or John Ross, should that- This is just hypothetical. Should that person accept that trade? Absolutely not. So you could have John Ross and Miles Sanders. Right.

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for Austin Echler? No. I think it's interesting. Wow. I do not. No, I think Austin Echler season long value is greater sign Miles Sanders right now. And, you know, you're, you're going to be trading two for two. You've got to drop somebody to do that trade if you're the Echlor. I'm on the no side. Jason, you're on the interesting side? I'm on that somewhat. I mean, it's not like.

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Austin Echler. While he could be a flex play when Melvin Gordon comes back, it's not like he's just an automatic every week he's going to be fine. He had a lot of complete duds last year when he had 14. He only had three duds. He only had three duds all season long. I looked that up this morning. He was injured a little bit. But he only had three games where he finished outside really that RB2, RB3 range. Yeah, I think we've.

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looked up maybe a little something he obviously missed a couple games week three he was rb 41 later 44 59 44 so you're right it wasn't a ton of those um you know four and then it just a matter of do you think being the r b 35 or the rb 28 on a week is is you know getting it done you know and it's not to say he can't

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pop something off. You don't have a hard time deciding whether to start Miles Sanders right now or John Ross? Oh, certainly. Well, yeah, I mean, I think John Ross could be the real deal. But do you think Miles Sanders value goes up as the season goes along or goes down? It's hard to say right now. Sure, definitely. But I'm just saying your opinion as an analyst, do you believe that Miles Sanders gets more involved as the season goes on or not? It's my hope that he gets more involved. Because that's my only question is, as the season goes along, does Echler's value drop and Sanders goes up?

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Maybe. But what we do know is this week. I don't want to start Miles Sanders or John Ross right now. I want to start Austin Ackler for the next few weeks. That's where I'm at. Let's move on. Vance McDonald's shoulder sprain. They say that he won't have an extended absence. And then they set it by trading a fifth round pick for Nick Vinette. It was a five? Yeah. Okay. You know, the Seahawks. I thought I had seen a three being out there. I was like, that's insane. But so a five?

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Yeah, the Seahawks traded Venet away, brought back Luke Wilson. Oh, nice. And this was a shot in the arm for Will Disley more than anything else. Yes, I totally agree. Nick Venet, he had his opportunity last year to establish himself as a pass-catching weapon. It did not work out. And now it certainly seems like Vance McDonnell will miss at least a few weeks. What a good trade for the Seahawks. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, they traded.

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Nick Venet for Luke Wilson and a fifth. Like if you if you look at grabbing. The fantasy, the fantasy attitude towards the trade. Exactly. Getting Luke Wilson back is like, what's the difference between for the Seahawks, Luke Wilson and Nick Venet? Is there any? Well, we'll see. I mean, Wilson was cut this off season, so maybe he's lost something. But he knows the system. Teams are comfortable with him, you know, bringing him in. A reminder with waivers going through today, check the drop it like it's hot. Drop it like a hot.

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Make sure you see who people are dropping to pick up all these free agents, including guys like Wayne Goldman. And, you know, you do need to make plans to be without Vince McDonald for a little while. At least a week. At least a week. So other free agent tight-ins, there was a name, you know, that we didn't bring up to keep like an eye on. You know, we bring up Herndon at Titan. Yes, I know who you're talking about. Talking about Hard knocks. Yeah. Is that who you thought I was talking about? No, no, I thought you were talking about.

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No, yeah, Dawson Knox is interesting. Dawson Knox had kind of a breakout game, and he ran a ton of rounds last week for Buffalo. Jason, you own him in Dynasty League. Yeah, he's getting volume. He has getting volume. The other stash, tight end, who we also should have brought up. He's another suspended player. He's Ben Watson. Yeah. He will be back sooner than Chris Herndon. One week, right? One week sooner? Yes. Yes. So, yeah, that's an interesting one. There are some guys out there that are kind of.

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slowly turning around, well, well, well, Mr. Gordon. That's why he has to keep the visor on, so you can't see, look him in the eye. He's never taking that helmet off. I would not take the helmet off. I don't blame you. Hey, I need my money. We want to thank today's sponsor. You may have heard of them, Pepsi. Oh, yeah. So delicious. Pepsi takes all NFL celebrations to the next level, whether it's a Hail Mary touchdown,

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The ball has bounced the wrong direction. And, you know, this is the time. You've got to know whether to move forward with players with confidence, whether to cut. So time to start looting? Yeah, as Jason would say. And the truth is, is, you know, it doesn't do you any good as a fantasy football owner to dig in on preseason narratives and believe that they're going to come to fruition if they're not.

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It's also not the time to freak out and panic on players, you know, Devante Adams could be in the panic room. Let's step inside. It's a very, very stressful place to be. Is this going on the whole segment? The entire rest of the episode, we talk through that sound effect. So we're going to bring up some players. We put it out on Twitter, the most requested players, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, the YouTube community. We're going to bring up some guys.

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And I'm going to ask you to find, gentlemen, what level of panic you're at. And I've established four levels of panic. Level one is you're not panicked, okay? You can't even hear that sound. Level two, you're somewhat worried, right? Maybe your hands over the button. Level three, you're getting a little freaked out. Freak you out, man. Yeah, you're getting a little worried. You're scared. What do you do? And then level four, that's a full on, full on panic, okay? All right.

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So let's start with, and these are all the most requested players that we've had. We've talked about some a little more than others, but Sony Michelle. Right now, Sony Michelle is the RB35 on the season. And I'm going to give you a few stats on both sides of the equation. Maybe that will panic you, some that might calm you down. Snap count wise in week 1, 33%, week 2, 49%. Week 3, 22%.

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He's only RB 35 on the year because he's scored, I think, three touchdowns. One avoided tackle on 45 rushing attempts, last among qualifying running backs and yards after contact. And then he does have 10 attempts inside the 10-yard line, which is second most at the running back position. So they give him the ball down there. And the Patriots are running the football 50% of the time.

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So where are you? What's your level of panic with Sony Michelle? I am at a of our system. Yes. I am number three. You're getting a little freaked out? I am a bit freaked out. He actually has two rushing touchdowns, Andy. And that means that of his 20.8 points and a half point PPR scoring format, 12 of them are because of touchdowns. That is.

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pretty lopsided. You need to see more. Him not being elusive. Week two, he committed the largest sin that Bill Belichick knows about, and that's he fumbled the ball. We know how Uncle Bill responds when his running backs fumbled the ball. And here, a stat that I heard on the way in, I was listening to a good friend of the show, J.J. Zacharyson's podcast. How many snaps have the New England Patriots run while trailing?

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Probably zero? Zero. Yeah. They have not been trailing for a single snap through three weeks, and Sony Michelle is not getting the ball like you would think for that type of a game script. So I'm actually a three as well, a little freaked out. I actually think what we're seeing in New England is a little bit like what we saw with Philip Lindsay and Royce Freeman last year, where...

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Yes, Sony Michelle has been inefficient. But right now, the game planning when he's in there for snaps is really obvious. You're going to run the ball. When he's in, unlimited snaps, you're going to run it up the middle. So he's not being put in a position to do a lot the way Royce Freeman was, and he's not offering them flexibility to use them like Burkhead. When Burkheads, then you don't know what they're doing. They might be throwing the ball. They might be running the ball. He's had the opportunity to be a lot. He's been a more explosive. My excuse for Sony Michelle.

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