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The hosts debate quarterback stacks, commissioner etiquette, and the old Kyle Pitts offseason hype cycle while the UDK turns draft preparation into a fantasy quest.
Is it Labor? We're Labor Day, which is September 1st. As late as we can do it, well, everybody can still make it. That's what we do. It's as late as possible. I mean, things are different now of the way, because, you know, it used to be, we all know that week three, because there was four weeks of preseason. Week three is the dress rehearsal where the starters will go out and they will typically play an entire half. I feel like that doesn't happen anymore. No, it doesn't. Because, I mean, we only have the three preseason games. You have in like,
Week two, they're not going to throw everybody out there for a half. So preseason is far more different when you're talking the risk of injuries in a game. Practice, of course, the risk of injury is still there. But it is not, I don't think it's nearly as important to go as late, late as possible as it used to be. Going back 10 years, do you want to know the running backs taken in the top 10? If you want a memory refresher when we look at Genti. Trent Richardson. Trent Richardson. You go back further for Trent Richardson. That's 2020. Oh, is it? Are we going back to the Christian McCaffrey Leonard Fournet draft? That's 2017. McCaffrey was eight. Fournet was four. Zeke was four overall the year before. Seque One was two in 2018. Bejohn was eight in 2023. Gentie was six last year. And then if you keep going back, you go Trent Richardson.
Which, ironically, if you don't remember, I was going to say he was not, he was a, this is 100% hit rate. It's pretty close to that. As far as being good for those top 10 picks, Trent Richardson after that rookie year. Bejohn finished at nine. He was only 12.8 points per game. I feel like he's a good example. He was a disappointment of AP. Yeah, that's a good example of what the range of outcomes is, I think, because it's not like Bijan was a bad player. No. It's just his circumstances. what the team needed from him, other backs. Dude, they used Tyler Alger way too much his rookie year. It was infuriating. And touchdowns. He had four receiving, but he only had four rushing touchdown. Oh, and you remember how much Red Zone work Algier got his rookie year? Yes, I do. Oh, my goodness. Arthur. He's dirty. Dirty man. All right, we are back into a voicemail question. Hey, ballers. I'm taking over as commissioner for my fantasy football league.
any general advice about taking over from the commissioner thanks it's we hear commissioner tips yeah we hear rule with an iron fist i i i i we hear so many questions every year about basically bad things commissioners do so i think one angle you could take is some of the things that have been absolutely insane which is like not considering the opinions of the rest of your league, right? Our leagues are majority vote or super majority vote for all of our significant league changes. We certainly don't do things that we've heard commissioners do like, hmm, I just change the way the rules work after the week to benefit the commissioner or other people in the league like neutrality, you know, democracy and activity. If you want to look to the positive side, a good commissioner keeps
like facilitates the organization of a league in a manner that allows communication to be easy people to be excited um for so many years we did things like weekly write-ups about teams and how they performed trade reviews you don't have to do all that other stuff but just keeping the league active a couple really good managers like the commissioner can be one of them and then a couple more like two or three super active, energetic people can define an entire league and get everybody on board. They really can't. They can move the needle. We've had leagues where we lose one or two people that we didn't want to lose because they had, they just had something going on. They wanted to leave the league. And you miss them. You miss the activity. That is correct. We have. Wait, what are you have? It's not, I'm not breaking. It's not breaking news. But Najee has been spotted at photographs practice. Now he is wearing.
gigantic sunglasses and a hoodie so we cannot get a we've been waiting to see that I'm zooming in on this I'm trying's eye gate but he's at least there yeah he's there I feel like he's trolling us you know what I mean I hope I hope he's trolling us I hope like what you know here's the funny thing is you could I mean if you if you wanted you're practicing outside you play games in a helmet with a visor he doesn't ever have to show us you could never see it again hmm He can keep that eye secret as long as he can play football. So you guys were both, you guys were both reacting. I was giving commissioner information. It was great info, dude. You guys saw, you don't know what I said. I heard it. You saw Naji, though, appearing at camp. Yeah. Okay. We had to dive in. Do not unilaterally veto trades as a commissioner. Yes. Also, don't have a veto period. Yeah.
Yep, turn that off. Unless there's collusion, which we... Well, yeah, yeah. You can kick someone out for collusion. I'm not saying you can't cancel a trade, but don't have like the 24-hour window or the 48-hour window for trades to be approved once accepted. Yeah, 1996 called once it's rules back. Yep. Anything else for commissioners that you want to mention? Just be cool, man. Yeah, just be cool. Don't be a loser. Yeah, that's really good advice. I mean, it's good tips, right? Let's go over to the deucers because I know nobody's better on the mic than Matt over there. Matt, are you the commissioner of any leagues? Yeah, I have a couple actually. So are you looked at, do people look up to you in those leagues? Are you a good commissioner? Yeah, I'm the best commissioner. Okay. They respect me a lot. They do? Yeah, they love me. And do you rule, I mean, any of these things we say, have you gone against them? Like, are you unilateral in anything? No. No? Vote on everything. Have you had to kick anybody out?
Yeah, I kicked out my brother one year. Nice. Yeah, good. He's back, but he colluded. Oh, really? Oh, wow. You let a colluder back? Did he sign a document promising he wasn't going to do that again? Forged a document. Yeah, it was about three-year ban. Oh, that's a good band. I mean, I guess you don't have to like, like, if someone colludes, are you done with them? I mean, are they, is that a lifetime ban? I don't know, man. What if they're just a young kid just finding their way in the world? Yeah, I don't know. Let's say Calvin Ridley, you know, he got his ban for betting on sports. But what if he was betting on the Falcons? Do you let him back? Does the NFL let him back? Pete Rose says, no, they don't. Right. Well, I mean, that was a different world. Also, Falcon, way to fly. We were working. We were practicing before the show how to talk. He's still almost covering his mouth when he talks. But he did do better. And so I'm very proud of you. Thank you. Blah.
Kyle would like the world to know you're an idiot if you bet on the Falcons. Well, I mean, when I say bet on the Falcons, I don't mean to win. You could bet on them to lose. Oh, that would be a big problem. Yeah. Pete Rose always bet on his team to win and they didn't let him see. I don't see what that's that big of a problem. It we really, well, I didn't want to get to this conversation. Pete Rose conversation. No, the bet on your own team to win. What is wrong with that? What is wrong with that like, I mean.
I mean like, I'm going to have to play so much harder now. There's nothing independently in a vacuum that narrow channel of betting. There shouldn't be anything that is bad about. I think it's just the slippery slope argument. You've got to have a hard and fast rule that you can't. You just can't have that be part of this sentence. Right. I get it. I get it. But at the same time. The people who pay you are literally betting on you to. go win the game for your team. Yeah, you certainly can't do any lines or your performance or your yards or anything like that. Yes, I agree. Just to your team to win. The NFL should have one rule. You can bet on your team to win money line or just part of their contract every week gets put in on. Oh yeah. Their money gets conditioned on, you know, I mean, are there are. Are there. I wonder if there's contracts for just wins and losses. This is why Mike didn't want to have this car. They basically are there are.
There's got to be escalators with wins. That's a bet. That's basically a bet. You're betting on yourself to win. When you sign that document, you bet on your own team. Suspend them. Suspend him. Contract looks like betting. I don't know. All right. Here's a question from YouTube. Not a professional. YouTube question. This is a frequent question asked by a lot of people every year. Brent writes in, well, first he says mailbag, yeah. If you could pick any spot to draft from which spot would it be and why? This is the first question by Brent, despite listening for six plus years, we do get this question every single year because a lot of leagues allow you to pick your draft spot. That's part of the, you know, sometimes you do reverse order of standings, gets one through 12, and sometimes you get first pick of spots. So in this draft, in this year, I think, what's the latest I can get, Christian McCaffrey?
And he picked in the first round. I mean, he's on average on the second. Your spot's probably nine or eight. Then give me a late spot. I'm probably more around the five or six range this year. Yeah, I feel like there are. Who's the necessities? Chase? The super necessities, uh, Jay John, Bijon, Sequin, Jefferson. Ced. I have CD. Jefferson, a lock? He is to me. He is to me. Uh, Gibbs. Gibbs. So that's why I'm like five, six, around Gibbs range. Man, I see, I feel like I am. And CD, you can put CD in there. I'm almost fine with like 11 or 12 right now. I think I would take 11 because to me, yeah, you're not getting Bijan, you're not getting Sequin. You're not getting Jamar Chase. So to me, like top three is worth it. But if I were Gibbs, Gibbs is great. But Gibbs versus Genti. Gibbs.
You know, Chase Brown, Dave, Chan, Henry. I feel like when we did the mock drafts and you got saddled with the turn, I loved your team. Yeah, I like the guys at the turn. You know, I'm looking at the people that are going around that spot. Derek Henry, Ashen, Gentie, Nico Collins. You need to look at the way back in, though, of like, okay, so right now ADP is Nico. Then it's A. Chan, Brian Thomas Jr., Brock Bowers, Jonathan Taylor, A.J. Brown. Josh Jacobs. If I hit a point where you're like, you feel like there's a massive drop after Jacobs... You're talking about in the second round? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's about where it drops unless you love McBride and want to go with a tight end. I think I'd go at the back half of the first if I could pick. We have an Instagram question from Liam PPR Keeper question. Brian Thomas Jr. Amon Ross St. Brown. Oh, man.
Brian Thomas is 22.8. Ammon Ra is 25.8. I am very cozy with Amman Ra. Yeah, this is an easy Amin Ra. If you're in a Keeper League, this was a mistake that for years and years, I think our original league made, nobody does this anymore, but they treated it like it was a Dynasty League. You know, if you're keeping three guys, the age really, really doesn't matter. You're probably not going to keep... the same guy that you think you're going to have forever, forever. It just doesn't work that way. So who's better this year? They're both young. And now if Amin Ra was 29 right now, okay, maybe I'm going, I don't know how he's going to do this year and next year, but if you're still in the prime of your career, it doesn't matter whether you've got more years forward. I just want to make sure you're okay next year. Amin Ra is...
much safer to make sure that you have... He's so young. I'm saying you have a locked-in wide receiver one, but it's like Brian Thomas Jr. could be the wide receiver one. And I don't think Amund Rock can't. So it's just what do you prefer? Man, I think Omn Rock could probably do it. I don't think he can be number one. Three is not close enough for you? Yeah, I mean, he's been three the last two years. No, because when you finish at number one, generally you're like... You're multiple points per game ahead of number three. That's true. Okay. We'll take another quick break. Come back with more of your questions. YouTube question from Aloha Ace, Omari and Hampton or Chuba Hubbard as your RB2 in a full PPR league. Oh, man. With all the nausea news. Naji's back. With all the nausea news, O'Mary and Hampton certainly an interesting name. I don't, I haven't moved Amarian to the place I would believe he belongs in, you know, if Naji didn't start healthy. Right.
We all have them pretty close. I mean, I got him at 19 right now, Jason 22, Mike 17. But again, we need, this is one of the most camp dependent adjustments possible. Chuba I have one spot higher right now. Jason has Chuba higher and Mike has him lower. If I knew that Najee was healthy and playing, I'd probably just stick with these rankings and I'd probably go with Chuba. I think he's going to get so much work. I'm optimistic for Carolina's offense to have success. And yeah. The thing about Hampton is, you're going to need to make sure that you have a more dependable running back two for a chunk or two of the season. Because it's like Chuba, you're right in, running back too. He's going to be their main guy for the entirety of the season. Hampton, it might take time. I am still going to bet that over the course of the season, Hampton will be the guy. So you're saying if you go high tea.
And this is your fourth round pick, and he's your third running back. You've got a stud wide receiver. Maybe you went Jamar Chase in the first round, and then you go running back, running back, running back. He's your third. Then I would take Hampton over Chuba. I don't mind that. I do think that Chuba's a good back, and I think he's going to be pretty safe. But when we talk about play style of fantasy football and whether you're really truly trying to win your league, feels like Amaran Hampton is the... the better pick, the better offense, the more run-heavy team, the better talent. It's like the, I mean, he was the first round, or Hampton was the first round, and Nick Chub was not. But it's like the Nick Chub here, where Carlos Hyde was in Nick Chub's way. And then about halfway through the season or whenever it was, I believe they traded. They traded Carlos Hideaway, and all of a sudden Nick Chub is just dominant. And I could see the exact same thing. Like, if you're telling me Dallas halfway through this year isn't.
knocking on the door to get nodgy right when they go when they look at that team and go that that team probably wants to get rid of nodgy and give the ball more to hampton i could see something like that happen yeah you guys enjoy the uh the jim harbobb uh giff of him behind the peeking through the curtains i don't even know what it was i didn't see it are you kidding look at it right now someone pumps it the uh you can find it anywhere uh the lack of memes for what that moment was is disappointing it is just spectacular have we mean it's social media man have we memed this falcon what have you oh my god you're fired again you're fired you pay attention to the show the uh the the the chargers put up a video and then at the end it like zooms in it's harba like
peeking through it was it was you basically see this slow-mo video it's like john levittes just kidding me he is awesome it's unbelievable he is such a football guy and i i have not seen that thing memed the way it deserves oh and it especially from our own social media account we need to download that thing and go to work he's just that is an inappropriate look he's giving giving uh herbert yeah yeah big Sometimes I honestly show up, Harbaugh. I honestly think Jim Harbaugh wins by sheer force of whale sometimes. Really? Like just loving the game and thinking about the game. You saw his podium attire, right? Yeah. I mean, he's had cleats on to a degree. His passion for football is it's just, it's summed up in that meme. I think so make sure you post it and make sure you mean. Harbaugh would trade his family for a Super Bowl win.
I think he would. I think he'd put his family in the game and forced them to win a Super Bowl. But it comes from love. This is not like, like Bill Belichick would also have sacrificed his family for a Super Bowl win, but with a scowl on his face. Jim Harbaugh, he's so happy. He would convince the family that it's a good thing to go down for this win. He's just such a happy. He's a great coach, and sometimes I just, I'm just shocked. But I, you know, it wore out its welcome in San Francisco one point in time too. So all right. This is a fun question from the website. Caden writes in from Calhoun, Louisiana. Hey, ballers. Hey. I've recently gotten my wife into fantasy football. And on draft day, she also uses the UDK. And she takes advantage of the vast knowledge it provides. How do I navigate draft day when she is looking at the same cheat sheets I'm looking at? He left a note in the details.
which oftentimes people put their league format in the details field. This one says we're both very competitive. Good note. Thank you. So, you know, I would say this to start and you guys throw in what you think. The UDK is not like a set of like 15 steps to win your draft. It's not an order of operations. So it's really a robust tool in which you build your own game plan based on the resources therein. So yes, you're going to have some. You're both going to have some players you're probably targeting that are similar if you buy into some of our logic. And you listen to the show. Yeah. Unless you got your wife into the fantasy footballers, then may God have mercy on your soul. Right. That's going to be real, real tough. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of different resources in the UDK and some are better than others. We say that in the UDK. Like we have a top 200.
You know, really encourage her to use the top 200. Yeah, we don't like it when you use it. You may just make it, but we prefer you to be tiered because it's easy, but it's not as good as the separate tier based positional rankings because then it's about roster construction and grabbing the right guys from the right tiers as opposed to just this guy's 10 spots ahead of that guy in a shuffled together list. So, you know, it's, use your brain. Yeah, and then the win will be even sweeter. That is true. The wins are sweeter when you're playing with,
good competition all right instagram question when is the best week to set the trade deadline in a dynasty league red murk 92 writes in with this question we have a dynasty league we have a our keeper league and we have trade deadlines that have been different between them yeah i think in a dynasty league i i want to say ours is week 12 you guys i think convinced me to back it up a week or two yeah i i get it I want to say we were 11 for a while and then we went to 12. Yeah, somewhere around, normally about a week later than the NFL or the default in like SPN and Sleeper and wherever you're playing is I think how we've done it. Tyler writes in from X and says, Bucky Irving or T. Higgins going forward in a dynasty league. Bucky Irving, we know, just 22 years old entering his second season. T. Higgins.
26 just signed the contract for your 115 million dollar contract extension this one this one is actually it's tough for me i think uh running backs short of shelf life then wide receivers higgins is locked up and attached to burrow for a number of years but i think running back's the harder position to find it overall in a dynasty league if you can have somebody that's really locked in so that's going to come down to your conviction around bucky irving's staying power i think and whether you think he'll be a you know does he get a second contract that's tough for running backs so
I and what do you believe about T. Higgins is meat you know what his muscles no no his muscles his muscles we're going thank you I'm going to close my eyes and pretend I'm not here I wanted to say his bones but he's not breaking bones he's always pulling muscles I'm not here Willie, do you think T. Higgins will be healthy? I still don't know what it meant. What he meant? His body. I hope he means not what I heard. That's what I hope. I'm taking T. Higgins. Mike, what are you? I will answer this question. Don't ask me about T. Higgins. Diving deeper. I would take T. Higgins in a dynasty league because I think Bucky will be one of those players that just he burns really bright.
for a couple of years and then we're sad and we just remember the times of bucky irving um it's uh this one comes down to what depth you have at both positions so i'll i think i'd prefer i'd like to keep bucky i'll bring the tie with tea i mean the sentence the sentence is just unacceptable it's just stand alone Not standalone. It's just not trying new things. I'm sick of saying soft tissue. Please. Please just say that one. Don't combine those two sentences together. No soft meat. No, no. No. I'm just. All right. Well, I think the answer was T. Higgins.
Great question. The show is over. It was Bucky for me. But the show is definitely. It's definitely over. Happy Saturday, everybody. Hope you didn't fall off your lawnmower just then. But we'll be back. Goodbye. Five shows a week soon. Get me out of here. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on Join the Foot.com. and follow us on Twitter at the FF Ballers.