Fantasy Football 2017 - Starts of the Week, Week 9 Matchups, Waterbets

That's less than one. That's less than one. So you're not expecting that. Jonathan Stewart at this point, the only value he provides you is if he falls forward into the end zone. Yeah, and he got lucky last week that Cameron Artis Payne was given a couple opportunities close to the goal line, I believe from the sixth and then the three before Jonathan Stewart had the leaping touchdown. I don't want to play Stewart. I'm still very, I'm interested in funches.

Are you guys playing him as well with the new perceived upgrade? Scrumptious. I apologize to Devin Scrumptious. Devin Scrumptious is a must. Any questions? Oh, man. David S. Scrumptious. Devin S. Scrumptious. Any question. That's just mixing so many things together. No, I, for the benefit of the listener. I think he is a must start.

Devin scrumptious should have enough targets to matter. Is he part of it? Now, yes, he's, yes. I want to go back though. My own thing. I disagree a little bit with Andy on Jonathan Stewart. Really? Yeah, I think Jonathan Stewart's a fine play this week. Atlanta might not be giving up touchdowns, but they haven't been great against the running back position. You got rid of Kelvin in part because you want to run the ball more. Give me the. I know, I know that, you know, no, no, no, it's fine.

How good? How good would you say? I have him right now as my running back 21. So if you want to take a, you know, if you're wanting a water bet and you want to say top 30. Oh my gosh. Oh, that's nine spots away from where I have a right. That's a lot. Why wouldn't you put him like at top 20? I don't even have him in my top 20. Why would I bet that he's going to be where I don't even have him to finish? That makes no sense. That does make no sense. However, I thought you were, you know, going to move him up after that speech.

No, I'm saying that I've, as a, as RB21, that's a startable asset in my rankings. And I think that you could have a serviceable game here from Jonathan Stewart. Top 25. I don't want to do it, but I'm going to do it. Oh, I got bullied. I got bullied. I got bullied. I got bullied. Yeah, you got bullied into taking a bet four spots ahead of where four spots farther than where you have them ranked. It's a bad bit. For me or for him? Jesus. Okay. We need to move on. The Bengals and.

The Jacksonville Jaguars are, they're going to play this weekend. Jags, five-point favorites at home, a 39.5 point over and under. I can see that game being under 39.5 points. Andy Dalton, he's been struggling. Joe Mixing, he's been getting carries, but he hasn't really had a breakout performance. He had a big reception last week, but this team, this offense right now, look, the Jags, statistically,

They give it up to the running back. How confident would you be in Joe Mixing this week? Not. You still play him, but the Bengals offense, they are scoring less than 16 points a game, which is fifth worst in the league. It's pathetic, really. And I know that the, statistically, you know, you're right, the Jags have, they're allowing a lot of rushing yards. But when you combine the fact that the.

The overall offense for the Cincinnati Bengals has been so bad. Their offensive line is so bad. And the Jaguars, they specialize in, I mean, just Saxonville for a reason. Calais Campbell. Well, I haven't heard that one. Oh, what? You haven't heard that? I haven't. That's been going since week one, man. You got to get your head out of the clouts. I hadn't heard it either, Mike. What is wrong with you guys? Hey, Bruce. Had you heard that before? They literally changed the official team.

Twitter name to the Saxonville Jaguars at one point during this season. But Clay's Campbell has been in monster acquisition. So because of that and just the ineptitude of the Bengals overall, that gives me very little confidence in Joe Mix. Lev Bell put up 18 for 56 against Jacksonville. Over the last three weeks, they actually have been far better than they had been, you know, they had that crazy New York Jets game that has.

kind of messed up their whole metrics. They're more middle of the pack for fantasy running backs. Well, they made a trade to improve their running. So, I mean, it coincides. It makes a lot of sense. We've also seen like when the Bengals played the Pittsburgh Steelers, when you're facing a team that can control the clock on the ground like the Jacksonville Jaguars could do with Leonard Fournette and then you're down. The second half, Joe Mixon didn't get a carry. You go, okay.

That could happen in this game script. Exactly. You know, Joe Mixen gets enough involvement where, okay, he's a flex-worthy start. I think he's fine if you need to start him. I'm not saying bench Joe Nixon. But I'm not excited to play him. A.J. Green, you have to start. He's AJ Green. And then it's nothing. I mean, I'm okay. Tyler Croft. I'm okay playing Croft. Croft is actually my start of the week. I don't blame you. We'll talk about the reasons behind that pick in a little bit. Let's talk about the other side.

Specifically, I think people want to know how you guys view D.D. Westbrook rest of season. You know, he was the best collegiate wide receiver last year. This was a player that flashed in the preseason, led the preseason in Yardage. Right. I really like him. Alan Robinson's out the way. Hearns and Lee have been inconsistent. You know, if you had to put that kind of like lottery ticket pick on Westbrook being somebody that can help your end-of-season team, I.

I kind of like him. Yeah, I don't mind the pickup at all of, of D.D. Westbrook, the Twitter machine. The love for D.D. Westbrook right now is, is a peeking. I mean, it just, it burns your face off. When you jump on Twitter, people, the way they talk about D.D. Westbrook. Sorry, are you putting the suntan lotion on? Or what are you doing? Well, I am, I got to protect myself from that hype for a rookie who has been on the IR. But, but he's got talent. He's worth a stash. I'm not.

going to play him right this week against the bengals past defense but like him a lot more than john ross rest of the season yes okay i mean john ross is just you know john ross has negative fantasy points combined on the season not just like a week because i thought it'd be used last week with tyler boyd out and ross being active and he never got a no receptions so yep

Let's talk about the Rams and the Giants. The Giants are real quick. Would you play, because Fournette, he's a must play. Would you play Chris Ivory? No. No. Okay. The Rams and the Giants are three and a half point underdogs at home, 42 point over under. Jared Goff and the Rams coming off the buy week. What are the storylines here? I mean, you're starting girly. Mike Goff was your.

Stream of the week, was he not? Yeah, he certainly is. I like, where's the confident, which, you know, you have Janores Jenkins out. Who are you most confident in at the wide receiver position for the Rams? Most confidence? None of them. I mean, they're all about equal, but Jason's love for Sammy Watkins. He's just, he's got this smirk on his face. And he's side-eyeingly right now. Yes. Because Sammy Watkins with Janores Jenkins out.

gets a perceived big upgrade, and he could be a sneaky snart this week. He actually leads the NFL. Did you know this? In perceived fantasy points this year. He's number one in perceived fantasy points. He took over Kevin White's spot. Just, yeah, from last year. Yeah, from last year. So honestly, Jason, if you're in a perceived points league. Yeah, no, he's an absolutely great play in perceived points league.

has been solid PPR. It's been solid all year. Mixing's up there too. Yeah. Here's why. So look, Robert Woods to me is the guy that if you're looking for a floor, he's been involved. I think four out of his last five weeks, he's had five receptions or more. I mean, Robert Woods is not going to be the guy that's going to win you a week. But if you need a flex option,

that, you know, you're good elsewhere and you just need someone to score some points, not put up a goose. I think that's Robert Woods. In general, in average. Cup is my favorite. Okay, so that's exactly. You got Sammy Watkins, you got Cup, you got Woods. It could be any of them, and two-thirds are probably going to stink. That's why I like Sammy Watkins, because in this matchup without Janoris Jenkins, no, there's, I don't think there's a debate. Tell me, please.

please tell me that you two do not think that Cooper Cup or Robert Woods are a more talented wide receiver than Sammy Watkins. Physically talented? Yes, just at talent as a wide receiver. Now, I'm not talking targets or better for the offense. I'm just saying as far as a, you're a general manager and you can draft one of those three right now. Yeah, of course you take Sammy Watkins, but just because he's the more physically gifted wide receiver, some guys just fit schemes better.

I completely agree with that. But in this matchup where you don't know who to go with, and there's no reason to say there's a bad matchup for Sammy, I'm going to take the ceiling play. Sure. Yeah, and I'm going to take Cup because it's not been about matchups for Sammy Watkins. It's been about involvement. So I'm going to take the much more involved player in Cooper Cup. For the Rams, the tight end position, the New York Giants have given up at least a touchdown a game, at least one.

Every single week to the tight end position. Are you putting the chips on Gerald Everett or Tyler Higby to continue that streak? Everett? Was that two names at the exact same time? It was about to be. I lean Higby, but I mean, it's a it's a crapshoot. It's coin flip. We should do a Watkins Higby versus Cup and Everett bat. Oh my gosh. What is happening? Because there are a bunch of degenerates.

Jason. Why am I getting bullied into these straight? Waterbed. I think that is the first official water bet that has not been agreed to. Involuntary. Well, I'm in now. You're all about it. The giant side. Jason, your boy finally placed, Sterling Shepard.

Love Sterling Shepard. I realize the Rams have a pretty good pass defense, but Sterling Shepard is the number one target, even over Evan Ingram. We'll see. Sure. No, I'm with you. I love Sterling Shepard this week. One of the things you have to do as a fantasy owner is when situations drastically change and you're on your provider, Yahoo, ESPN, whatever it is, and you're seeing something like, you know, Evan Ingram going up against a tough...

tight-end defense, top-10 tight-in defense. Well, the situation in New York has changed so drastically over the last year. His involvement, his history, Sterling's involvement, his history. Those things, you throw out the window, you put the blinders on those numbers, and you need to kind of look forward. And I think Angram and Shepard both have very, very interesting rest of season projections. Sure. And what about the Rams defense? They have allowed over.

A touchdown. 1.1 rushing touchdowns per game. Do you have any interest in Darkwa? Yeah, Darkwa, I think, is a flex-worthy play. I have none. That's a great matchup. I understand. Yeah. And it's a really nasty backfield. So I'm not interested in Orleans Darkwa. Jason is. But that's the tale of today. Yeah. Polar opposite picks on everything. So.

That's rare, but it's happening. Week 9. It's happening right now. Broncos Eagles, Eagles are eight-point favorites. The Broncos are a mess. Brock Osweiler is going to start at quarterback for the Denver Broncos. The Eagles, 43 and a half point, or the over-under is 43 and a half points in this game. I think the real question for fantasy owners comes down to confidence levels on players like Wins, Ajai, Jeffrey, and Aguilar, all players that have been played pretty much all season long. But is there anybody, you know,

that you're going to say, hey, take a break, sit on the bench for a week. I know they're at home, but it's Denver. Denver's the second best run, D6 best pasty. I looked at the numbers. There's not a quarterback that's really, you know, gone past the 23, 25 point mark, depending on your league scoring format. What do you do with those players, Mike? I don't want to play them. I try and find a different option. But do you play like Josh McCown tonight over Carson wins?

No. Do you play Tyra Taylor tonight over Carson Wins? Or do you just stay in the... Yeah, I think with Carson Wince, because the game is at home, you stay in the flames with him, but those wide receivers, I want out. Yeah, I agree. Aguilar and Alshon Jeffrey. Massive downgrades. Really difficult cornerback matchups. The wide receivers are taken out of the game. That being said, Denver is beat regularly at the tight-in position. Oh, yeah, Zach Ertz. So Zach Ertz is going to be great, which will help.

Carson Wins. And we saw a little while ago what happens, you know, where it's like, oh, it's not fair that Carson Wins had such a great fantasy day. He got put in good positions. Well, Brock Osweiler. Someone says it's not fair. That was not fair. Andy, when we were watching, it was like, oh, you know, it's like he shouldn't have a good fantasy day, but he keeps getting the ball at the other team's 20 yard line and throwing a touchdown. Okay, I see. And that could happen here. Brock Oswiler.