AFC East Breakdown + Big Announcement, Dance & Song - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/13

And they called it the fire sale, which is like all the hackers. We're going to shut everything down. We're going to shut down all the systems. Yeah, man. And then it actually happens. And you realize, oh, I did not want this to happen because I like living. Now, I'm just, I'm just sharing this piece of information. I didn't invent it. So don't get out of me. Great stat. But back in 2000, not only were you 18, but you at that time weighed the same as Tutu Atwell does today. Oh.

Fantastic. Which right now, present day, Jason, weighs 1.84 tutus. I think we should start. I think this, we should have a movement. You know, we got stones over the sea. You got pounds here. Right. We should go tutus. Okay. So you're at one. I am 1.842. And I refuse to believe you were, you were 165 when you were 18. No, I was not 165 at 18. I knew this stat was egregious.

How many tutus would you like to weigh? Like, if you work hard, how many, you go into 1.5 tutus? Uh, so you're telling me, is a two-to-two-two. He's how much? He's 165. Uh, I would like to weigh 1.21 tutu-tut. So I've got 0.6 tutus to lose. Oh, my goodness. All right. The Patriots last year. Not good. Look, instead of tutu, it's tut-toot because I was out on New England last year. Well done.

Thank you. I really liked going from 2-2 to Toot-toot. You, thank you. Three and four and one-score games, two and six on the road. Cam Newton was a disaster for the most part. They could run the football. They couldn't pass it. They had 180 fewer pass attempts than in 2019, which to me is like almost a, you know, it's just an exclamation point on losing Brady, right? You lose him and then you can't even pass. You can't even try to pass, right? 180 fewer attempts.

The only time that you saw a bigger adjustment or change year to year was when the Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges' experience happened to Pittsburgh. So that's the bad, right? And you could say, well, everything went wrong for the Patriots, and they were seven and nine. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, I have no doubt you're going to apologize for the Patriots. No, not apologize at all. Just say if your quarterback was a disaster.

And your team had several defensive starters opt out for COVID. And you go seven and nine? Things are going to be okay in 2021. If your quarterback stays as bad, this team is so much better than last year. Yeah. Just.

from the free agent acquisitions they made this offseason paired with all the COVID players back. That's another thing when we're talking to Dolphins is they've got two games against the Patriots that I expect to be a tip-top defense this year with those additions back on the team. So you both have a rosier outlook. I mean, look, they added Hunter Henry, Johnny Smith, Nelson Aguilar, Kendrick Bourne. They drafted Mac Jones. They drafted Ramondre Stevenson.

I think we have a rosier outlook on the real life, real life Patriots, their win total, their playoff birth chances. Booty Scootin Cam. Ooh, yeah. You're going to get some booty scooting this year? I have no rosy outlook on the fantasy. Andy, you were no fantasy roses? You were telling us a quote that neither Jason or I had heard about from Cam Newton. Yeah, I mean, there was just some video that came out. He was.

chilling in the back of a car, talking about getting right physically and how when he threw an interception in Carolina on the one-yard line, chased down the, well, tried to make the tackle, I don't think he did, ended up hurting his shoulder, and he basically said from that point on, he's had a problem with that shoulder. We know about the shoulder issues. We know about the throwing motion. We know how ugly it's been. He claims that he couldn't lead with that shoulder on any rushing attempts, where obviously last year he still scored 12 rushing touchdowns.

but he only averaged 177 passing yards a game. And I don't know how long the rope is, right? Like, I don't know how much narrative street to read into that. Obviously, the confidence level of Bill Belichick and Cam Newton extends to the 15th pick in the draft, right? Like, it's not enough to go use that on another key component to your team. You need to go out there and you reinforce your quarterback room, long term. But.

Yeah, I mean, it's really hard because there's so many times when these quarterbacks start to take the walk off the cliff production-wise, and we want to believe that they can get it back, right? But Carolina didn't believe he had it or was going to get it back. We look like geniuses right now. Yeah, last year's play on the field doesn't look like he's got it or going to get it back. So as a fantasy player, I sure as heck I'm not going to bet my team on him getting it back. That being said, I mean,

He is an undrafted quarterback. And he was like for the first half of the season, I mean, he was a very startable quarterback. Yeah, when you run the football on the goal line, not only do you delete the value of the running backs in that room, but you put yourself in a position. I mean, yeah, the first, you know, 10 weeks of the year, 17 game pace, he would have been, you know, 700 yards rushing and 19 rushing touchdowns.

So that's asinine. Like that's not sustainable. But that shows you he was still valuable because of that. But he looked really, really bad in the passing game. And it's a matter of can this team win that way? If you're winning games, nobody cares, right? You're not going to care if Cameroon's a 200-yard passer if you're winning ball games. But if you aren't, are you going to get Mack Jones? How will that impact Hunter Henry, Johnny Smith, and company? And is there any diamonds in the rough here in terms of fantasy value?

I don't think there are pass-catching diamonds in the rough here. Either way, you have a rookie Mack Jones with a good defense, a good coach that I think is going to really try to game manage this team to wins. Or you have Cam Newton not throwing the ball a ton. So when it comes to Nelson Agilor, who maybe he would be the pick, it could be Jacoby Myers, it could be Hunter Henry or Jono Smith. There's no.

There's no telling who it's going to be. And then what you're going to get from a small projected passing yardage team is not something I want to play around with at all. The running game is the big curiosity. Like you said, Cam Newton's going to vulture the touchdowns on the goal line. But if the change happens to Mack Jones, now you're probably going to get more opportunities for touchdowns probably about the same.

amount of dump-offs. If you want to look at what made Justin Herbert great as a rookie quarterback compared to what could be in store for Mac Jones, is you had a bad offensive line in Los Angeles, you had a defense that couldn't stop anybody, and you had to lean on him. This is not a situation where... And you had Keenan Allen and Mike Williams and great weapons. Yeah, and in this situation, you have a great offensive line.

You have a rush first type of team, a great defense. So you may try to put him in a position where you're not risking too much. I will say to your Jacobi Myers point, if you're looking at a basketball flyer, late round flyer, you know, out of Boston, Tom Curran said he'd put his cash on Jacobi Myers being the most reliable and productive receiver. Jacobi Myers, once he became an actual starter for this team, which was week seven, he was averaging.

five receptions and 65 yards a game. He simply did not score. Ever. Ever. Which was the Patriot model last year. Yeah. Well, no, they just scored rushing touchdowns. But Cam Newton was on a no passing touchdown policy for the majority of the year. But 27th and points per game, though. That was rough. Five for 65 is not nothing.

From week 7 on, 90 for 1115 was the pace. Yeah, exactly. And again, let me illustrate. No touchdowns. Yes. And that's why no one, not specifically the only reason. I mean, Nelson Aguilar and all these free agents coming in that is scary for if you're going to try and draft Jacoby Myers. Okay. But simply pointing out that the guy had a lot of production just didn't have fantasy points. Let me put you on the spot here. Easy.

You're not excited about Miami. You're not excited about New England. Correct. So if you had to bet on one of these teams making you eat crawl more, you're betting on Miami? For fantasy purposes, I'm betting on Miami. Yes. I think that they have the potential. They want to air it out. They want to be a high volume, high powered offense. I think the Patriots love their defense. They go out and they sign two tight ends. They want to run it.

down your throat and control the game. That's not for fantasy. All right. Let's talk about the Jets 2 and 14 last year. It's over, guys. It's over. 722 days. Congratulations, New York. Of septic sludge in New York City. You made it. The Adam Gays era. I mean, you started it to be fair. Yeah. We all knew this before you signed him. I'm talking to the city like it's there. We're flushing it away.

It's over. 722 days of Adam Gaze. Yeah, you need a big flush. It's a long flush. It sounds. Yeah, you got to do that thing where you hold the lever up just to make sure that more water's coming through. Two cycles of water. Yeah. Clear it out. Oh, man. Every single New York Jets game last year started with the Vegas total below 50. That's the only team to ever accomplish that. Their average team implied point total was 17.9. They were 32nd.

in the league and points per game. They were a disaster on offense. Nowhere to go but up, right? We spend the off season. We go out. We get Corey Davis. We go get Kevin Coleman, Keel and Cole. You draft Michael Carter. You draft Elijah Moore. You bring in Zach Wilson to be your new quarterback and you don't do the dance and song that Jacksonville is doing with its quarterback. The dance and song. Yeah. It's usually the song of the dance. I put it in a different order. You're not doing the Jacksonville dancing song. Oh, man.

Which sounds way weird. It sounds super weird. Like it shouldn't be that big a deal. You're saying the same words, but the dancing song is not a thing. But you're not, you're not pretending like Zach Wilson's not your quarterback for the year or has to prove himself. So this division's rough. Fantasy wise. Let me just illustrate this. I realized, I realized coming into today that I was going to be negative Nancy. I don't like any of these.

The team's outlooks for fan. It's Stefan Diggs. So weird. Stefan Diggs is my favorite, like, player for fantasy in this whole division and outside of that. Yeah, you pooped on Allen a little bit. Michael Carter? Okay. Yeah, I mean, Michael Carter is a sleeper running back drafted at RB 40. Hard to expect Zach Wilson to come in with a terribly ranked offensive line that could improve, but it takes time. And if you watch.

The Zach Wilson's, like his highlights back from college, he had elite offensive play where he was able to stand there. I'm not doubting the talent. Offensive line play. Yeah, I'm not doubting the arm talent of Zach Wilson. But his old line was really helping him out back then. And the New York Jets offensive line is not going to do that. I agree. He's mobile. He can move around and things like that. But this is.

he's going to be in for a very rude awakening in week one. It's amazing the turnover at the wide receiver position for this division outside of Buffalo. I mean, you can even include Buffalo with losing John Brown. But every other team has a pretty much remade offensive wide receiving room. I mean, Corey Davis, Elijah Moore, I love. I mean, coming into the league, you have Crowder still, Denzel Mims as well. But the wide receiver course throughout the division have been completely revamped, rebuilt.

Davis coming off of the 65 for 984 and 5 got paid. Probably the last wide receiver one you can draft in your fantasy drafts. Probably, yeah. Corey Davis or Will Fuller. Who are you taking Ashana? Will Fuller. You're going Will Fuller? That's tough. I know the target's going to be there for Davis. Yeah, I think I'm going to go Will Fuller just because of the talent and the speed. He, you know, he's always been good when he's on the field. But I do. Are you ready for the breakout for Chris Herndon?

No. Sorry, you were speaking about the wide receivers. You do believe, is what you said. Yeah, I do believe Corey Davis is a value for where he's going is basically on draft. If you're in super, super deep leagues, he's not going to be relevant, I think, in most.

you know, standard leagues where you've got, you know, four or five or six people on the bench and one flex. But if you're in a deeper league, multiple flex, large benches, you're in a dynasty league. I think Corey Davis will be valuable. They brought him in. They paid him a lot of money. The question is going to become, is he the one, which, you know, he was drafted to be a one and he was never really a one on the NFL field? And now they brought in Elijah Moore.