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The Fantasy MVP Episode w/Expert Picks

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The stat about the rushing is seven of eight. That's really hard to argue against because I don't think any of us think Lamar Jackson will have fewer than 700 rushing yards. Here's the crazy thing is it's like, okay, but so should Josh Allen. Can they both be in the top five? Who all are they kicking out of that area? I mean, that's going to be the hard. Not everybody can finish top five. Only five quarterbacks can do it.

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Math checks out. Yeah, and he brought up that he's a cheat code, and we've talked so much about the fact that Jason doesn't like the scoring. But talking about it, complaining about it, to me, is not changing. This is the way it is. And you can debate the merits of it. You can debate the value of a running quarterback in football. None of that matters. As of right now, running quarterbacks are great for fantasy football. So Josh Allen, Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, Cam Newton.

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They're all valuable at a different rate because of what they do with their legs. I love the pick. I think it's got a high probability of being right, being the, you know, where he's being drafted, which has moved up. It has moved up. Lamar was going further. Right now he's in the ninth round. Wow. He's moved up a lot. He's moved up a lot. So, Mike, you've taken him in yesterday's listener league as a second quarterback late. I love doing that with Lamar, Alan, Kyler Murray. Watch week one and two. What happens?

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You either have a player that explodes and maybe your other quarterback's fine, and you can go back and forth stream those guys if you drafted them late. You got a trade bait, and then you can just drop them if they're not what you think they are. Right. Yeah, I'm all on board, but I will say this. Between the two, Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, since there's so many similarities in how they score and why they're going to be great, I will still take Josh Allen because he's...

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For some reason, he's completely undrafted. Nobody wants Josh Allen. Everyone's on board now with Lamar Jackson. All right, let's turn to the godfather of fantasy. Matthew Barry with his fantasy MVP pick. I'm curious. What's up, boys? Matthew Barry here. And my fantasy MVP this season, how about Chris Carson of the Seattle Seahawks? He's a lead running back that I think is going way too late. He's currently going in the fifth on ESPN. I have him as a third rounder. And I think he could be an RB1 this season.

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Look, we know the volume is going to be there. Seattle, the run-heavyest team in the NFL. Last year, Chris Carson averaged 17.6 carries per game. That was third most in the NFL. In the nine games last year in which he got 15 or more carries, he ran for a touchdown in eight of them.

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And I don't think that's going to change this year. He is still going to be the lead running back. I'm not worried about Rashad Penny. Remember, Mike Davis left 146 touches from last year. He's now in Chicago. So I think Penny can increase and Carson can still be the main guy here. It's still a very good offensive line. Again, and after Tyler Lockett, there's not a lot in the passing game there. So I believe Brian Schontheimer.

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when he says they want Chris Carson to catch about 50 balls this year. So, yeah, give me some Chris Carson, especially considering the value of him in the fifth round. And it wouldn't be me, guys, if I didn't promote something. So all of your listeners can go to rotopass.com and get 10% off if they use the promo code Foot Clan. Always great to talk to you guys. Good luck this year. 50 balls, man. If Chris Carson, it'll be the number one running back. If Chris Carson catches 50 passes, that would be.

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absolute insanity. Chris Carson, hopefully I'm not stealing any thunder here from you, Andy. But he's so much like Sony Michelle. The offense is set up exactly the same where if the Patriots are winning, which the Patriots are going to be in a lot of positive game scripts, guess who's going to be great? Sony Michelle. If Seattle is in positive game scripts, guess who's going to be great?

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Chris Carson. So if you're buying in on Seattle still being a good team, a top half NFL team, then Chris Carson is going to be fantastic. Chris Carson, obviously, I'll let you finish here, Andy, because he's one of your my guys. He's a guy you've been.

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touting for a long time. Yeah, so let us talk about him. Go for it. I'm enjoying this. Brooks, some popcorn, please? Yeah, so with Chris Carson, I just, while Barry was talking in the 50 reception mark, like that's what they're saying they want to try to get. I don't have him down for near that. If that happens, he would go. Did you do some projections? I did projections in, in, what if? So right now he's my running back 15.

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which I still think he could very easily finish above that. But if he were to get 50 receptions in my rankings, he moves to the running back four in my model. He would be only behind Saquan, Camara, and Christian McCaffrey. I don't expect him to get 50 receptions, but if he did, that would be a huge game changer. Yeah, and that's why he was the bold prediction pick on our show where I think he can be a top five guy. Here's my biggest problem with Chris Carson. Believe it or not, I have a problem. It's that.

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He's being drafted kind of a round ahead of Sony Michelle. So I'm like, you know, I look at those players in the exact same lens that you said, Mike. I've been very happy to add Carson or Michelle as my third running back and then not touching my running backs for the rest of a draft. But at times I'm like, I want Sony. I want Carson. I like the upside. Definitely has an opportunity as a fantasy MVP. All right. Let's turn to Marcus Grant from the NFL.

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What up y'all? It's Marcus Grant from NFL Fantasy Live. Shout out to the footballers for letting me be a part of this thing. I will tell you that my MVP originally was going to be Andrew Luck, but, well, yeah. Anyway, so I'm going to come outside the box a little bit and tell you that my fantasy MVP for 2019 is going to be...

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Carson wins. He has been close to being something really great. He just hasn't been able to stay healthy. I think this is finally the year, maybe partially because the Eagles don't have that safety net. Now that Nick Bowles is in Jacksonville, I think they figure out a way to get wins through a full 16 game schedule. Look, the weapons are there. We know the talent is there. It's just been a matter of him staying on the field. I think this is the year he finally does it. And with the draft price of him coming off the board late in drafts,

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I think he turned out to be a top three quarterback, and he will be your fantasy MVP. Now, Andy, you and I love Chris Carson. We talked about that on yesterday's. Carson wins. Carson wins. We talked about that yesterday. Are you playing Wheel of Fortune? You're doing Chris Carson Wentz? Ooh, I like, does that give me both players? On the fantasy court, we argued against you, Mike. Yes. So I love this take. Unsuccessfully, by the way. Successfully. I love this take, but I do have one issue with what Marcus said.

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He said now there's no safety net behind cars and wins. And Josh McCown begs to differ, my friends. That is an excellent point. Oh, he would ball out. How, okay, unhelpful speculation here. But what if? Oh, I can't wait. My body is ready for Josh McCown's Super Bowl. What happens if you go, Foles gets you there, then Foles gets you to the playoffs. Then Josh McCown gets you to the playoffs.

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And Carson Wins is sitting there holding the bag. All I'm saying is if Josh McCown gets the job, he's going to be on a 5,000-yard 700 touchdown pace. How long is he going to play, though? Oh, who cares? He'll kamikaze himself in two games. It's just if you're Josh McCown at this point in your life with those weapons, you just came out of retirement, you literally have nothing to lose whatsoever to fire that ball all over the field. It'll be like,

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Ryan Fitzpatrick on steroids. So let's... Whoa, whoa, whoa. Honestly, how's he playing this long without steroids? I don't know. I have no idea. Allegedly. Evan Silva from Establish the Run with his fantasy MVP pick. Hello, this is Evan Silva from Establish the Run.com. My fantasy MVP this year is Mike Evans, wide receiver, Tampa Bay, Buccaneers.

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hooking up this season with Bruce Ariens, one of the most legendary downfield vertical passing offensive minds of our generation. Mike Evans has finished top five in the NFL in air yards each of the last four seasons and has a thousand yards in each of his five NFL seasons. You know, I think that this passing game distribution in Tampa Bay has been

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narrowed and squeezed with the losses of Adam Humphreys and Deshawn Jackson. And Mike Evans is going to really take over very much of that Deshawn Jackson role, and Deshawn Jackson, by the way, led the NFL in yards per reception last year. And Mike Evans is going to run even more vertical routes this season with Chris Godwin and the slide in O.J. Howard dominating at tight end. I think we're going to see a ton of pass attempts.

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this year in Tampa Bay. My favorite second round pick, and I think that Mike Evans has a real good shot this year to finish as the number one overall wide receiver in fantasy. Ooh, spicy. I love it, man, because Mike Evans has been there. By I've been there, I mean, like, he's just, he's a second round pick, but he's not getting talked about really in fantasy football, even though he's been great all five years that he's been in the league. I think that's more a product of,

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our excitement, fantasy football is excitement for Chris Godwin and O.J. Howard to break out. Remember when Mike Evans had 173 targets? Like, Silva's not wrong. That might happen again. What's been strange about him is he had so many red zone targets he didn't come down with last year. So again, you're leaning on Winston to supply the power for the MVP pick. That's more of the question mark. I can't imagine, you know,

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What if Josh McCown and Bruce Ariens came together in some situation? Right. That would just be the greatest downfield threat of all. So you know Winston, unlike Derek Carr, who seems more hesitant to throw the ball down the field, Winston will do that. But he has to do it accurately. He has to convert more of those red zone opportunities for him to be the MVP, and it could definitely happen. My issue with Mike Evans, look, my League of Record team is really hoping. Evan Self was right on this one. I've got Mike Evans. Love him there.

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I think he's going to be great for fantasy. But a couple years ago, he was the number two wide receiver in fantasy, and that was on the back, Mike, of what you said, 173 targets, right? But look at that team then. Adam Humphreys was there, the next highest targeted with 83, and then you're talking about Russell Shepard and Charles Sims. Like, there weren't Chris Godwin and O.J. Howard to siphon targets away. They also didn't win. Right, but the last couple of years, you've seen him more in the 135.

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target range. I would be surprised if you saw Mike Evans jump back up to three years ago when they didn't have other targets. I think, sorry, I think the difference he's that Silva's talking about is Bruce Ariens is now. Bruce Ariens likes to throw the ball. Bruce Ariens is now, as Mike said. And the difference between Mike Evans and Deshaun Jackson, which D. Jacks always got overthrown. Mike Evans is 6'5. It's a little bit harder to overthrow him.

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It will be interesting because I think most of those arguments are going to apply to the success of Chris Godwin and O.J. Howard as well. If the offense is moving and there's narrowed receiving options, then both of those players are going to benefit. And there was so much preseason, offseason talk about Godwin that kind of died down. Everybody knows that he's a talent. But I think that there are a lot of people deciding, can Chris Godwin be like my wide receiver one?

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Oh, no. Can he be my one if I go running backs in the first three rounds? And I mean, Chris Godwin or Tyler Boyd, who would you rather have manning your number one spot on your roster? I think Godwin has more upside. I would agree with that. Yeah, I would concur. The one thing that I definitely do put in the favor of Mike Evans when I was making my bold prediction on the bold prediction episodes of Juju as the number one wide receiver overall, and I'm doing the research and looking at.

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If you want to finish there, you have to have north of 12 touchdowns. Mike Evans can't do that. Right. That's how Mike Evans could finish is the number one. I don't think it's going to be on the back of 170 targets. I think it would be on the back of 13, 14 touchdowns. All right. Super best friend time. Jake Seeley, All in Kid, the senior writer for the athletic fantasy and the host of the fantasy footballers DFS podcast, which will be debuting.

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Mike, do you have a date for us? Next week. Next week. What is the date is? Well, I don't, it's Friday. The DFS show. My birthday is next week. The DFS show always comes out on Fridays, and I just didn't have a calendar. So September 6th. So that'll be incredible. We've got his MVP pick. Take it away, Jake.

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