Andy, what do you think? The former MVP. Last year's MVP against the current Pucca back and I get Adams. In Puka, I'm playing that as he's Stafford. Good luck. Sorry, everybody. Okay. This one's been hard. Jalen Hertz or Drake May? Jalen Hertz. Okay, we did it. We got Jailen Hertz in the lineup. Yeah, play Kyran, play Puka and Adams. If Pooka's not active, Mumfield is the desperation there or the Tyler Higbee option.
Starts of the Week + Week 4 Games, Cat Fight! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/1
Fantasy Football - Starts of the Week + Week 4 Games, Cat Fight! - Podcast for 10/1
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159 passagesYou don't have Goddard. He's not practicing. Wix is desperation. Lemon is desperation. Devante Smith, if he's active, you play him. But it's not a high-scoring projected game. There's supposed to be a little bit of rain, a little bit of wind, maybe some water and heart. I don't know. The Green Bay Packers at 1 and 2 take on the 0-3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay. One win between these two teams and both.
fan bases are positive they're going to lose the game. Green Bay minus three and a half, over under 38 and a half. We may all lose with that over and under. That's what that tells me. Jalen Daniels, undrafted free agent out of Kansas, we'll get the start, won the backup role in Tampa. And yeah, that's who he starts for. Tampa. Buck Irving was limited with a glute on Wednesday after they said he's got nothing wrong.
They literally said he will not be on the injury report. Gotcha. Liars. But yeah, both of these fan bases, like, let me go to the source here. Al Borland, as a Green Bay Packer fan, confidence in the running game right now. Zero percent. Zero percent. If you had to bet, one guy gets more than eight carries. Would you make that bet? One of the three, Brooks, Lloyd, Johnson. Are you asking Owl or us? I'm asking you now.
I do think that they will. There's been a lot of talk. I mean, first of all, I don't expect that the Tampa Bay offense is going to do a ton. So there's been so much talk this week from the Packers camp about.
needing to run the ball more even when it's failing because it's going to fail. I love that that's the context because it's really stating the exact state of affairs. Yeah, but it's like they want to, you know, they talked about it being like a body shot in boxing where it's just you've got to keep hitting them over and over and you've got to stay committed to it. When you get a bunch of third and eight, you are body shotting yourself. Yeah, I get that. But my point is when you really are committed to the run and you want to do it all game,
You still cannot if you're down a score or two. And in this matchup against Jalen Daniels, an undrafted free agent rookie making his first start, I hope that the Packers aren't going to be down two scores because that would be embarrassing for them. And if they are up or if it's in a neutral game environment, I do think they're going to be committed to handing the ball off. But to who? Probably Lloyd first, Caleb Johnson second.
Yeah, they came out and said that all the running backs have not had enough chances to get going. To me, that says maybe they'll pick one to get a chance to get going. Last week, neither one had over eight opportunities. The price fix line, I think, is like eight and a half for Caleb. I think they will give. Here's my predict. I think they'll give Caleb the ball this week. Yes. And it will fail miserably. Yeah.
But good luck against Vita Vaya with this talent on the offensive side. Christian Watson, Matthew Golden, play them both. Tucker Kraft. That is a spot where Tampa Bay has been vulnerable so far. He only has one red zone target. They've made moves to make the offensive line better. This is a...
Easy math equation for Green Bay. Tucker Kraft gets better when he gets healthier from the ACL and isn't needed to block in line as much because they fix some things on the offensive line. Until those things happen, Kraft will be hit and miss. I, you know, the breakout game is coming. I still believe it. He's too good. He's paid too much money. You know, Jane Reed is gone, like the kind of short area stuff.
You know, is it this week? I'm really indecided with him and Waller. I just don't know what to do with that situation. Yeah, that is pretty tough. I think I lean the Tucker Kraft side. Like Mike said, eight targets last week. And similar to neighbors, you expect a slower start to the season, but they will get it together. But like by the end of the season, at some point, the athleticism catches up. I mean,
the atrophy goes away and you are ready to be the animal you were. I don't know if it'll be this week, but the matchup is pretty good against the Buckinghamers. Stop dropping the ball. Yeah, that's going to be helpful for sure. Jordan Love or Jalen hurts. Jordan Love. I'm still confident in the passing game for the Packers. Yeah. Matthew Golden and Christian Watson, it's delightful. My only fear at all was that last second.
visual hamstring pull from Christian Watson. Wednesday's injury practice report came out. He was not on it. He wasn't even listed as a full participant. He was just not on it. He was just doing a bit. Yeah. A little psych out. Got us. Like on the intercept. What a prank. Because he was like, oh, I would have been a part of that play. But yeah, it was my hammy. Emeka Abuka, wide receiver 33, 32 and 39 through three weeks. Right now, I mean, no. He's in like category of.
You know, are you playing Dantavian Wicks or him? I mean, I'll still go Abuka there. But there is. I mean, backup quarterback. Abuka with an undrafted quarterback who you, we have no idea if he can be good. The Packers defense is not scary, but a situation where you're already not performing and now you have a worst quarterback. I would prefer to have you on the bench.
score a bunch of points so I can have confidence for next week. I mean, it's 11 weeks in a row for Igbuka where he has not had 10 fantasy points. He hasn't had nine fantasy points. So this is not a guy with a rookie quarterback that I'm expecting to get a touchdown, which is seemingly his only way he's going to hit that double digit threshold. I mean, he had a touchdown two weeks ago and he didn't hit 10 points. So he's, to me, he's like a double flex option.
Bucky seems like a good play in this game because Green Bay's defense has given up 29.2 fantasy points. And how do you protect a rookie undrafted free agent? Yes. You let him hand the ball off and you have success against Green Bay. He 100% should be a good play. But an injury combined with a, the defense can just like when you're a bad rush defense, but you don't have to worry about the quarterback, I'm going to sell out until the quarterback proves that he can beat me.
Tennessee's 0 and 3. They travel to Baltimore to take on the Ravens at 2 and 1. Oh, boy. The line, Baltimore minus 11.5. We can be quick with this one. The overrunners is 42 and a half. That gives Baltimore 27. That means you start Jackson, Henry Flowers. End of list. If Flowers is back, Bateman is not an option. Correct. So the Baltimore starts are simple. On the Tennessee side, the Tennessee sits are simple. Yeah. All of them. Sit them all.
You want to play Pollard? He didn't practice. Foot injury. You want to play Spears? Didn't practice. ankle injury. Don't play Cam Ward? You're literally should be in an institution. It's Singleton's time to shine, baby. I mean, Nicholas Singleton, I like. But he's not shining. No. It's his time to not shine and get carries. Yeah. Some context. Spears was knocked out of the game and they were like Singleton.
You stay there. Listen, Jason. I watched both starters are gone. Pollard didn't practice really last week, too. I watched Carnal Tate routes this week. They were fantastic. Open all the time. Double moves. No. Even got targeted on some of them while he was wide open as it flew over his head on catchable. Like Cammore has zero completions over 20 yards. There's no big plays. He is 34th in yards per attempt. I mean, this is.
How are we talking about Caleb Williams in a robe? And we're not talking about that play last week where Cameron Ward like stopped moving. Yeah, what a cool trick you got. He stopped moving. You're allowed to do that if you're the best. He just like kind of sat like he had the feet going and then and no one was up and then he just kind of turned off. He just like, he did complete the pass on that play. But it's like he did it in college a couple times. This is not.
serious. This is not appropriate. That is unserious. And they've talked about his footwork is atrocious. Interception in the end zone. They could have won that game. I can't imagine being a head coach in the NFL. Don't worry. Brian Dable is confident in him as a player in person. Yay. I think Brian Dable is going to have a new job next year. I hope he's got a new quarterback sooner than his new job. But some context to rookie, you know, highly drafted wide receivers and their.
target share for the first through weeks because Carnell Tate's at a 25% target share. They're not throwing the ball enough, but he is being targeted last week. How many, do you have it in front of you? Who do you want to take? No, he did. He had nine targets. No, he did. He had nine targets, six catches 58 yards, wide open for a touchdown that they couldn't complete. I saw people dropping Carnal Tate. No, no, no, no, no. And I went to scoop him up immediately. I think that is a massive mistake. Would you play a Bucca or Carnal Tate? Carnal Tate, for sure, easily. Mike?
With the Jalen Daniel start? I think I'd play Kernel T. Ironically, some of the numbers on that. Emeka Ibuka, his first three weeks as his rookie season, he was only 22% target share. Rome was at 18. Teterola-McMillan, great rookie season was only 24% through his first three weeks. It's just so much more than Target share. No, I agree. I'm not saying you're saying that it's all that. But it's not a stat that I am holding on to for Carnell Tate in particular because the target from Cam Ward.
You need four to equal a target from a regular quarterback. And those three games for Abucal last year that you talked about, you know, he scored three touchdowns in him. For goodness sakes, Carnal Tate, what's the overrunner on touchdowns rest of the way? What's insane? Three? Carnell Tate should have had a touchdown in that game. He was wide open in the end zone. And it was a target. Yeah, and it just got missed. So it's, I mean, it's so easy. And Wondale's out targeting him. Yeah, I mean, it's going to those two guys. The part of the problem here is.
volume and speed because you know you could say oh 25% target share is not bad but you know we've talked about this in the past with baltimore where it's like well how many total targets how they're playing so slow where it's like cam ward had 23 completions two weeks ago was 13 completions you'd have to have like 75% target share to matter so hopefully cam ward gets it together figures out
a little bit better play. I mean, we saw down the stretch last year some signs of life from Cam Ward. You came into this season, Andy. Shut up. Shut your mouth. We're going to be a good offense. I don't know what you're talking about. That wasn't me. It was going to be good. That wasn't me. So, you know, it's still very early in his career. I hate myself for thinking that. I really do. Yeah. I want to apologize for that. I want to apologize for believing anything about Malik Willis.
and Miami. I want to apologize for Dowding Kiran Williams. Oh, the spotlight here is. I hate any wrong things I say, and those were super wrong. Cam Ward sucks balls. Oh, get wrecked. Get wrecked. I mean, I had to do something to get out of the spotlight. I will remind you. Which is still, something's happening in this room right now. Andy, for as bad as you feel, just remember.
The Titans drafts him at number one. They feel worse, you think? Yeah. Our room is, we're in a complete... Where we should be. Oh, Jeremy's running around. He definitely wants the camera on and over there. Dallas. Oh, yeah, Brooks. I should have hit that. What did he say? That's on me, Brooks. I don't say it often. That's for sure. Dallas 1 and 2, Houston, 0 and 3. Over under 48 and a half. You talked about Stroud. Houston minus 3. Still favorite at home at 0 and 3 against Dallas.
Because Dallas is one and two and they just seem inexact in what they are. Like we don't. They just made a trade for Joey Porter Jr., big trade. Probably not playing this week. Could be out there. Houston's defense has been weird. They are still stopping running back. So I have my doubts about Javante going into Houston with that crowd and going up against the number two running defense and doing anything.
So I think there might be starts at decisions related to him. Like Braylin Allen or Javante, I think is a fair question. I think it's fair. Like Braylin Allen will probably have more yards than Javante, but I'll touchdown upside still. It's still pretty hot. Are you there too, Jay? Yeah, I am a barely Javante. I think that's a fair call though. You can make the decision on your own. This is a team that, you know, last year the Texans, you couldn't do anything against them. This year, they've been beaten in the passing game.
