that I think I'm still going to play Kincaid, but I understand that. What do you guys think about DJ Moore as a trade for a candidate? I like that. He's been very, very involved. And he got hurt. 10 targets, I believe that he is going to be there. Like, if we do, I'm sure we will soon do like a redraft. We usually do early in the year where we draft people over.
Starts of the Week + Week 4 Games, Cat Fight! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/1
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159 passagesI doubt we get to where DJ Moore would go, but he would be significantly higher to me. The way he has looked this year, the involvement in the offense, I am fully bought in that DJ Moore will be the primary wide receiver for a great team. And I think at the end of the year, you could look back and say this is like a top 10 wide receiver. That's really bullish. And it feels weird because last we had the injury game where he hurt his shoulder and went out with a...
Negative, I believe he had, I'm saying negative 0.1 fantasy points. So that's going to really, it's going to bring down your total average is going to bring down the manager's feelings about them. But he comes back with the injured shoulder, gets 10 targets. I really liked each other. I'm going to be extra transparent here to my own detriment, but I want to have the discussion because I think it benefits the listenership. I've really had the long thought process. And maybe this is just my own problem because I can't just stay pat with a great team.
But I've had the thought process of like, is, and we didn't bring him up on the tradeaway candidate yesterday. But Devante Adams is having the best three-game start of his career. He's an older wide receiver. He is a compelling, like, if you're offering him around, that's a compelling player. And I've had the thought about how do I view, how do I view DJ more? Why do you hate this? I hate this because what you're saying is that you're considering trying to.
offer Devante Adams for DJ Moore. And something else. And plus. He would have to. You'd be worth plus. For that move where the market is right now, Devante Adams is worth more. I mean, I've had the thought. And then, you know, I have Josh Allen. Yeah. You know, you know the math on that. And it's like, it's really, it's always going, no matter how, like, if you think we're smart, if you think we're dumb, whatever, no matter who you are.
You can have it in your mind that you're going to trade a player that's like a great tradeaway candidate. But if they've played three amazing games in a row, I don't think there's a soul out there that doesn't feel like what if it keeps going? Like Adams has been that good. What if Puka has surgery? All these things go on your head. Yeah, what if he goes out and plays this week and then it's re-agravated? And I mean, that's a humongous deal.
So it has crossed my mind. Like those two players, I feel like DJ Moore is a trade for a candidate. I feel like Devante Adams is probably, he's probably going to maintain value throughout the year, but he's probably not going to be what he is right this moment. No, not what he is right now. I mean, Devonty, let me see where he is on the year. He's the wide receiver six. He's been insanely good. Yeah, 190, 537 yards these last two games. I don't mind the thought process.
I think Adams is more valuable at the end of the year. I mean, that DJ Moore. Yeah, and DJ Moore has dealt with the injury already and there's some concerns about, you know, Josh Allen hasn't needed a go-to guy since the Diggs year, so sorry for the detour there. No, no, that was just a thought process. Whatever you do, I just hope it's the wrong decision. It could be. And, and it's worth remembering, you know. That I've made wrong decisions lots of times. No, last year, Devante Adams was the wide receiver eight and Pooka.
played so yeah no it's not like puka coming back destroys he's trying to talk me out of trying to pursue this puka coming back that's where i'm with it absolutely destroys the terrence ferguson tyler higby but not adams but not adams there's two valuable pieces for the ramps and one thing to remember is puka's return the reason he didn't play as he said his explosiveness wasn't there so we still need when he plays we still need to know that he's a hundred percent puka right you don't have puka
I would take half puka. Yeah, that would be pretty good. The New York Jets in our next matchup at 1 and 2 taking on the Chicago Bears with the big Monday night victory making Philly look silly. The Vegas line, Chicago minus 3 and a half, over under 43 and a half. You know, the Jets have been a competent team this year, which is great because competence at quarterback means relevance for Garrett Wilson.
Maybe Kenyon Sadiq continues in a sense. He was limited in practice with the back injury, which I would guess happened when he laid out and looked in pain at the end of that catch. But the Vairs, Case Keenum, we think it'll be Case Keenum? I think so. Caleb Williams was getting better every day. They have said they know who the quarterback is. But they won't tell. I was a little confused because I saw the locker room stuff with Case Keenum.
Oh, his little with the speech, the game ball speech, which was awesome. The speech was great. But then like Caleb didn't play, right? Are you talking about the robe? The robe? But he clearly did a little postgame shower. He's in the robe. Well, you could, just because you're not playing. I mean, you might get a little dewy. Okay. Okay. Just thought it was weird. And it was a really nice robe. I don't feel like they all got that robe. You think it's weird that a guy's like, hey, you know what I could be wearing right now. No, the robe. Of luxurious.
spa quality you gotta go take shower time from the guys that dad let me ask you have showers for everybody at a professional facility they're not sharing one leaky bucket this is the question was he in pads no so he was just in normal regular clothes at a game and then was like yes man that is weird we'll go change it to a robe it's weird but also it's a robe jason we all want to wear a robe i wear a robe every morning
It's a great life. We all want to wear, okay. I'm not going to dunk on a guy for wanting to wear a luxurious robe. Okay, all right. Start sit decisions. Mike, you brought up Braylon Allen. Yep. His prize picks projections at 70.5 Russian receiving yards. That's awesome. Yeah, we will take that. That is. We do have, so I'm, I'm very bullish for this week in particular. We have popular start sit questions that are, that are funny.
That nasty button ready. I'll go to you, Jason. Raylan Allen or Spotlight. Or Omari and Hampton. Amari and Hampton. That's the wrong answer. But they're playing Seattle, right? Yeah, at Seattle. You're going to play Hampton. They just had 1.9 a carry for JCP for the guy who's getting half the snaps of JCP. Yeah. I will absolutely still start.
Omarian Hampton in that situation. Okay. How about clip that? We're just going to keep the spotlight the whole time. No, it's any Hampton we need to have. Okay. And then Judkins. I would play Braylon Allen. Okay. Yeah, that one's easy for me. DeAndre Swift, you know, it's been a great start to the season. You have to play him on the other side. We'll see when Brees Hall comes back or if you get Braylon Allen for more than one week. I'm avoiding the toughest part of this entire matchup right now. Garrett Wilson play him.
How you feel about Sadiq, like after last week's breakout? Do you, like, where is he in your weekly rankings relative to the Dalton Schultz's of the world and things like that? Let me go have a peak. Seven for 105 and a touchdown last week of the 43-yard catch. Yeah, I mean, I've got Sadiq right now. You've got all the tight-ins right now, but go on. I don't mean on my roster. I mean, in my weekly rankings, he's at tight-end 11. I'm at 13. Yeah, it's like, you know, you can start him.
The bears are usually a little bit more of a pass funnel team. Not that they're weak against tight ends, but I think that the way that they're using Sadiq is a little bit more like a wide receiver. So it'll be interesting. I think you can throw him out there and start him. You know, his numbers have gone up, his utilization, his involvement. This is a player who missed, you know, pretty much camp and preseason with injury. So getting him involved, I think, will.
be a progression, and we've already kind of seen it, and it's been forced with some of the injuries around him. The latest I saw, I don't expect Adonai Mitchell to be there yet. Omar Cooper Jr. is on IR. So, yeah, I mean, I think Kenyon Sadiq is probably the wide receiver two for this team right now. What do you do with the past catchers? So.
A boon's a burden. Burden is in Loveland. Assuming it's case, Keenham, he hyper-targeted Luther Burton. I'm going to play him with confidence. After that, the confidence goes away. When we get the spotlight for Mike here with the Loveland decisions? Okay, give me some questions. Go ahead. Yeah, so Mr. Loveland. How about Kenyon-Siddique or Loveland? That is so dirty. Dirty.
Oh, that's such a good question. My rankings have Kenyon-Saddyke ahead. Harold Fanon Jr. after nine targets or Colston Loveland. Fanon. Why is Loveland doing so much cardio and not getting enough? I don't know. He's got 84% of snaps, 78% of routes. I don't know. You can get him real cheap right now if you believe in the long-term return to relevance, which you don't. Or you're scared. I'm scared, yes.
It's definitely worth some, there's going to be some squads where you want to take the chance that he bounces back. I still feel bad right now. There's no world where he doesn't have monster games coming up. Should you rather have Waller or him rest of season? Lovelland. You'd be Loveland, right? Yeah, it would definitely be Loveland. I think that Loveland will still for sure have big, massive week-winning games. The one thing I am far more skeptical on now is that he will have the consistency that you hoped for as a number one target from the team.
Yeah, that part is, and you don't get quite the answers you want even waiting weeks right now because Caleb's not there. Yeah. So you just said you're playing burden because Keenham proved he could hyper-target him. We didn't see enough this year, I think. Caliph Raymond? If you play him, you will die. He will outscore Loveland. Everyone loves Raymond. All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back with some more matchups. It's a good Brad Garrett, Mike. It's very good.
Jacksonville, 2-1, taking on the 2-1 Bengals. This is fun. I mean, these are two very good teams, and one of them's going to be 500 after this. Plus, two pretty ferocious cats, if you, I mean. Kyle has given us the cat stats. Oh, let's have them. Cat stats, a cat fight? So the, in terms of size, it's clearly the Bengal. The Bengal tiger's got to be bigger. A lot.
By a lot. Up to 350 pounds for a jaguar, 700 pounds for a bangle. The bite force, which I have not researched these numbers. This is purely on Kyle. Underrated stat. He's, he's, cat stat. Sure. The bangle's got the size, but the jaguar's got the bite force. 1,500 PSI on the bite. Well, let's talk speed. Let's talk speed. You got a bangle can only get up to about 40 miles per hour. Oh, slow poke. Only. While a jaguars up to 50, catch me if you can. Can't.
Thank you. So who wins at a fight? The tiger. The bengal. Yeah. We tried to make it compelling, but the bangle would win. Wow, there you go. My goodness. Trevor Lawrence, your start of the week, Bachel Tutton, Jason, your start of the week. Yeah, we won in on this game. And Parker, Washington, your start of every week. Play him for Jacksonville. Oh, man. I, the Brian Thomas Jr., Michael, or Marvin Harrison, Jr.
Like if you are a rookie from three years ago with a junior in your name, you're going to be talked about at the trade deadline this year because there's more rumors about BTJ. We had rumors about him going to San Francisco last year. They have reemerged. San Francisco has a potential destination, which if you want to say, hey, how do you save your career? You can go to San Francisco. Yeah, get a good injury severance. I know. That's true. Jacoby Myers is a flexible player this week. And then.
You know, the nice thing about the Cincinnati Bengals, it's really easy each week. Joe Burrow, Chase Brown, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, and log out, right? Yeah. I mean, there's no team ever easier than the Bengals. You have to start all of them. I mean, it's kind of like Dallas. And they're very similar. I mean, you've got play Pickens, play CD, play Giovante. Would you rather play Jacoby Myers or Keenan Allen?
Jacoby. I want this game environment. I want a 51.5 point over under two great offenses and the chance for 70 points to be scored in a game. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, keep an eye on. And you don't have to wake up at 6.30 in the morning to watch them. Yeah. Well, there are people, Jason, that don't have to wake up at 6.30 in the morning to watch it. Lucky.
It's our job. But then they have to stay up until midnight for. And when we get done with our job, no matter how hard it is, we take a shower. No matter how easy. No, when my contractors get done working on my house, I take a shower. Yes, perfect. I believe we're so focused on a man that just wants to be clean. How clean and comfy. You don't want to be clean and comfy? It is weird, man. I earn that shower. What? I don't understand that. No, I don't know. I'm just having fun with it.
