Round one, let's go. So first off the board, actually, in this mock draft was Marchon Lynch, followed by Levion Bell, Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles, and Eddie Lacey, which puts us in the position that so many PPR drafters are in, which is how soon do I take a wide receiver because all the running backs, only running backs, have come off the board. So right now we're looking at Antonio Brown.
Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Final Mock Draft, John Paulsen Interview, Fantasy News
Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - Final Mock Draft, John Paulsen Interview, Fantasy News
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132 passagesjumping off the page for people. Most people think Antonio Brown's the top PPR guy. He's not my top PPR guy, but are you guys thinking running back here? Are you thinking wide receiver? I always want to go running back early, but the five guys that I want are in the first round, where we are at number six, they're all gone. So I'm actually looking at Antonio Brown or Julio Jones. Yeah, for me, I'm pretty much in agreement. The next guy that I like,
clearly the most, Justin Fawcett, I think has a small chance. You like Fawcett more than C.J. In a PPR? In a PPR. Yeah, in a PPR, I've got Fawcett as one of my absolute top backs. So we have the chance to take him here, but I think there's also the chance he could actually make it back. And so Antonio Brown is as solid and safe a pick as possible in PPR. So that's where I would leave. Do you guys agree or disagree? He gets a bump because of Martavis Bryant's.
It's a good point. It's a good point. Andy, especially his first two games. No Lev, no Martavis. He's going to have like 50 targets in game one. So somebody tweeted me today and said, why don't you have Antonio Brown number one on PPR? I have Julio. I think the main reason is because it's been several years since a wide receiver has actually repeated as the number one. That's one of the reasons, right? It's just not common for them to repeat year after year. You can't just roll the same.
And we have to keep in mind that while Antonio Brown finished number one last year, he had a lot of touchdowns that I expect him to get, you know, eight or nine touchdowns. But he was up in double digits. And so, you know, you take a slight bump there. So who's the pick then? I would still go, Antonio. I, like Antonio Brown or Julio, you can split it.
All right, I'm going to stick with my rankings. They haven't changed because of the news in terms of at the top. So I'm going to just draft Julio Jones. And just another point for Julio Jones. Pierre Garsohn in Kyle Shanahan's offense was either the number one or the number two targeted receiver in the NFL. Yeah, and there's been nothing that's happened in preseason. And Pierre Garsohn is not Julio Jones. I like Garsohn, but Julio Jones is an elite monster.
Well, it turns out that Jason was right, because we drafted Julio Jones, Antonio Brown went next, Des Bryant, Matt Forte, C.J. Anderson, Rob Grankowski, and Aaron Rogers round out the first round. I will say this. We are going to post this, okay? I will save this draft. I will post it on the website. It's hard to follow every roster spot while we talk, okay? And so we'll post this. Second round began with Jeremy Hill, ODB.
DeMarco Murray, Calvin Johnson, Demarius Thomas, and LaShawn McCoy. So our good fortune, the guy that we already had highest on the board and an easy pick for me now is Justin Forsett is sitting there in the second round. It's easy pick for me as well. Is that a simple? Home run. It's a top four PPR guy for me. I agree. So let's make that simple. Our second round pick is Justin Forset. We add him to Julio Jones. And next off the board is a quarterback, Andrew Luck. Second round, Andrew Luck.
Eighth pick, PPR. What do you think? What do you think of that pick? The value on him is okay. Now, Rogers went at the end of the first, if you remember. Right, but that person was on the turn, so they were able to go Rogers and Jeremy Hill. So you got an elite running back with your elite quarterback. It's still not a move. In a PPR with no wide receiver there. In a three wide receiver. I'm just, it's not a move I would make personally, but I don't have a problem with.
with that. If people want to do that, if that's what your gut tells you do, go with your gut on that. So in this league, if you're facing Aaron Rogers with the last pick of the first round or Andrew Luck with the eighth pick of the second, which would you rather have? Like which situation? Well, I want Rogers because he's my number one quarterback. So you'd take Rogers at the end of the first versus Luck. It's the same value to me because you're using your second pick on him. It's really a matter of what... I see. You know what I mean? So after Luck went Cobb.
Which I think in a PPR league, he's got to be rising a little bit, even though he can't do too much more than what he did last year. But with Jordy out, he's going to be leaned on as kind of the first read in a lot of situations. Cobb, A.J. Green, Alshon Jeffrey, Jordan Matthews. Wow. Jordan Matthews is going up. Wow. And I can see it in a PPR league. Lamar Miller, Mark Ingram, T.Y. Hilton, Mike Evans, and DeAndre Hopkins. So here we are at the sixth pick of the third round. We have Justin Fawcett and Julio Jones. And...
this is a decision for us to essentially go wide receiver, running back, or, you know, Grankowski's gone. So I doubt we're considering a tight end in this position. Yeah, this is clearly between wide receiver and running back. And, of course, so people very often say, okay, I'm planning to go, you know, I know Antonio Brown will be there in the fifth pick or who we take, Julio. So I'm going to take him, then I'll go running back at number two, and then they already predetermined who they're going to get at pick three and say, then I'll go,
you know, running back or wide receiver there. But this is where you've got to look at who's on the board and look at who's left at each position and then make the decision running back or wide receiver. In this situation, I think we're staring down two guys. Would you agree with that? I'm staring down Brandon Cooks and Frank Gore. Exactly. You nailed it. And Frank Gore is a top 12. I believe that's where I got. He's number 10 for me.
He's a running back one for me as well. Our consensus PPR rankings, he's 12. Okay. That's what we should be looking at. I love him right here, and I like Brandon Cooks as well, but there's just, there's enough receivers in that tier for me to come back and get one. And a guy who isn't even there right now, Devante Adams. So Adams is probably my target in the fourth round, because I'm guessing that those wide receivers will have a run, but I'm, I'm.
More than happy. I'm totally fine waiting on my receiver here. Love that. Take Gore and hope for Devante. Okay. So just some points about Gore for those that are doubting him. He's got four straight years of 1,100 plus yards. He is now behind an offense that will not see 8 in the box the way he saw 8 in the box in San Francisco for many years. And he is involved in the passing game. So he has PPR value. So I think he's been very underrated. There's been a lot of people that have questioned his ranking for us. And I just don't understand why.
His hands are great. Go back and look at his numbers before Jim Harbaugh completely changed the offense he was in. He was a 50 catch guy. And the Colts like to use the running back in the passing game. Look at Ahmed Bradshaw last year. I think he had six touchdowns in the air. And the big concern with an older back is two things. Injury concern, which is irrelevant for Gore right now because he's gone 50, 60 games without missing a game. And then the other is competition. And he doesn't really have...
comparable talent on the Indianapolis offense. So for me, all the pieces are in place, and I think it's a great value in the third round. So after Gore went Emmanuel Sanders, Cooks, Morris, Graham, Murray, and Stewart. And then in the fourth round, we're sitting here after Hyde, Wilson, Edelman, Manning, Gordon, and Watkins. So now we come to our pick, the seventh pick of the fourth round. What's going through your guys' heads? Who are you thinking about here? Because I want to bring up Greg Olson in a PPR league.
He's my number two tight end, and this is the fourth round where I'd start to consider it. So is he even in the mindset here at all? Are you still committed to a wide receiver? For me, when I've done my mocks, I don't like my teams when I take a tight end earlier than five. At five, that's where if Greg Olson... Except Rob Gunowski. Well...
Or maybe even in that situation, you agree. When I take Gronk on my mocks, I'm not actually as happy with my rosters. I love the value of Gronk there, but I just feel like it does hurt my top end of the positions that you actually have to play a lot of players on. So I would say I'm not considering any tight-in until five. And if I could get either at six, that would be a home run. But let me throw some names out then at wide receiver, all right? You have, according to the...
draft boards that we're going against, they have Andre Johnson next. But let me throw some other names that I think we'd consider. Andre Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Alan Robinson, Jarvis Landry. These are PPR names. Devante Adams, like Mike mentioned, is sitting there. I think his ADP on these boards probably isn't as high as it will be when you draft on Sunday. But this is a perfect example of maybe group thing. Maybe by tomorrow, Devante Adams has not risen up that list yet.
And he's a great name. So people will not be seeing that directly in front of their face. And of my rankings, Adams is the next man up on PPR. So if I saw Devante Adams here and I was giving a recommendation to somebody else who wanted to know, because the question here is, is Devante Adams a wide receiver 2 in a PPR league? That's the question for us. And I would probably tell them I feel a little uncomfortable with that. Okay. Because of the unknown surrounding Devante Adams. Yes, he has opportunity. Yes, he has talent.
Yes, he's been talked up in preseason. But if I wanted to roll out in a PBR league with three wide receiver starting spots, would I want him as my two? And I honestly would probably say I'd rather have Brandon Marshall as my number two in a PPR league than I would. I would go with Alan Robinson. Alan Robinson here is a guy that, you know, in a PPR league, the target monster himself.
He's got room to improve like crazy, and I believe in our consensus rankings, and I'm not sure if Devante Adams has been updated. I love Devante Adams here, but I think I prefer Alan Robinson. I just cannot comprehend that. We're going to butt heads on this one. On Adams? No, we're going to butt heads on the concept that Alan Robinson is more of a target monster than Brandon Marshall. Brandon Marshall is the target monster of the last five years. I mean, nobody gets targeted more than Brandon Marshall. I expect Brandon Marshall. He is always open.
How many receptions do you have them with? I've got him with 80, I believe. Oh, I have him way higher in the 90s. Yeah, so, I mean, that's the difference. I think Brandon Marshall is going to be a good wide receiver. I see him being who he was in Miami. And in Miami, you know, he had over 1,000 and 80 receptions, but I just don't, you know, that's where I am. Upside, essentially. Yeah, you are. You're projecting I'm going to lean at a wider receiver 2 position on the past. So we've got three different wide receivers.
But it seems like we're going wide receiver, right? Because our two starting running backs are locked back. So we've got to make a pick. So, Mike, why don't you make the pick for us? If it's not those two guys, we'll just do a little crying to ourselves and go with it. Here's where I split the difference. We're talking about three extremely talented guys. People who are concerned about Adams production, maybe, take a look at the playoffs. Adams smashed it.
in the playoffs. So we know that he can do it. The opportunity is there. Who's got the better offense? He's got the better quarterback. Better quarterback, better offense. Green Bay, the Jets, or Jacksonville? Jackson. Oh, man. I was way wrong. So does that make the pick of Andre Adams? Adams is the pick for me. All right. I like it. I like it. Let's do it. His ADP is rising. So let's grab him before it gets too high. All right. So let's get to the fifth round here.
We closed out that round. Drew Brees, fourth quarterback, or fifth quarterback off the board went at the end of the fourth. Joseph Randall started the fifth round, and then Joach Bell went right before us. Oh, darn it. Oh, wait. Don't it. Oh, man. All right. So we're sitting here in the fifth round. Does that mean the Express is still, hasn't left the station? Explain to the people. The Amir Abdullah Express. Yes. Amir Abdullah is sitting there. Okay. So is C.J. Spiller. Just checking. Yep.
And I believe both. As is Brandon Marshall. Greg Olson and Travis Kelsey are also there. With both of them there, I'm almost wanting to tempt fate and see if we can maybe grab one. I would love to take, I would like to wait if both are sitting there in the fifth. Okay. Because I'd like to take the other one in six round. I don't expect them to be here. I expect the tight-in run to happen, but it's worth trying. I'm excited to try that because if we could get them in the sixth, that's what I've been telling people. Anytime you see Greg Olson or Travis Kelsey in the sixth.
So this is one of the big tips that we would give you is that if you have your tight ends broken up into tiers of value, this is the situation, and we talked about this on the draft tip show two days ago. Right. This is the situation where you can look at your tier and say, okay, Kelsey and Olson are both in my tier. So I don't have to take one of them right now. Maybe. Maybe. Because I think I... You could tempt fate and both could go. I would hypothesize if we don't take one, they're both going to be gone. All right, so...
Kelsey Olson, Brandon Marshall, Alan Robinson, or a running back. Ivory's there, Martin's there, Amir Abdullah, Yelvin. CJ Spiller. Yeah, I'm so scared of Spiller right now. I'm a little scared of Spiller as well just because of the injury. However, at this place in the draft, I think in a PPR setting, his floor is going to be high. The injury is the only reason he's down this low, I believe. But you have to start a flex and another wide receiver at the beginning of the season.
