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Buy or Sell + Knuckle Cracking Questions - Fantasy Football Podcast

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I recuse myself. I recuse myself from this conversation. I am not fair to listen to. I mean, here's, I say I recuse myself and then I just want to immediately give my opinion. Because we want your opinion. I just want him to sit there. My redraft look on Carry on Johnson is as a handcuff. I don't usually even draft handcuffs. I think he'll be more involved, but not involved enough where you're going to start him on a,

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weekly basis, similar to, you know, a Kareem Hunt type. So in redraft, I'm not really looking for him. I do still absolutely believe in the talent of Caryon Johnson, and he is so young that I think he will get another contract. I like him more in Dynasty than I do in a redraft. Another contract where? On another team? On another team. The Detroit Lions do not want him. I just, if he goes to another team, it's a hard.

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Hard situation. It's harder, but it's not impossible. Look, I think that through the first half of the season, when you look at the rushing attempts on the ground for Detroit, Carry on Johnson will have more than DeAndre Swift when you reach the middle point in the season. So I think that he could have some interesting later round beginning of season value. But do you want 55% of the Detroit Lions rushing attack?

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Ooh, I don't want 100% of their... That's my point. That's exactly my point. If you don't want pretty much all of it, now it's split, I don't really want the lead dog. If I think the lead dog is Swift, I don't really want them. If I think the lead dog is carry-on, I don't really want him. At what point are you willing to say, okay, the value is there. I'll draft Carry-on Johnson and see what happens. Ninth round? I have no idea where he's good. I have to install software to black his name out.

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just so I don't see him. He's not available. Ninety-first overall pick right now running by 3090s in the Philip Lindsay-Torke Cohen category. That's fair. Which is totally fair. Yep. Oh, man, I would take it. But I don't, I don't, I don't agree with the dynasty valid. I don't agree with him. I know you don't. I'm well aware that you think that his ability to get a better job in the future is that that that would not happen. And I understand that argument. I'm basing it on talent that I think other evaluators agree with.

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would give him a shot. Bad franchises like that, they lose guys they draft. But why give a guy a shot that was a guy that's hurt is my point? Like if he's been traditionally hurt. Well, over the next couple of years, he could. So he could be the Tevin Coleman type of contract leaving Detroit and then he's been healthy? Okay. I know you think that I don't like Carry on Johnson. No, I know that you hate my love of carry on. It seems like hate. Yeah.

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But comparatively speaking, like to the world, it's just regular carry-on valuation. Sure. No, I get that. That's why I recuse myself and did not weigh in at all. All right, Twitter question from Abe. He says, how do you begin your process of statting out players? We probably all have slightly the same answer, but slightly different answer too. We do it slightly differently.

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Yeah, I mean, for me, I know how I begin the process. We go team by team, and depending on the team, I look at the quarterback situation first, and I say, do I know what this quarterback does, will do, his range of outcomes? Is this Matt Ryan? I know what Matt Ryan is going to pretty much throw for about yardage-wise, about completion percentage. You know, I know I'm confident in what he brings to the table, as opposed to Josh Allen. Josh Allen, I go, I don't.

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I don't know. So for me, when I stat these teams out, if the quarterback is a known commodity as a veteran, I start there. And I look at what I expect his team, his offense as a whole, and stat him out. And then I fill in the weapons to match what I believe the quarterback's reliability is. On the flip side, if it's a quarterback that I do not have a lot of confidence in knowing what the direction is, I kind of look at the weapons first and stat them out.

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to give me an idea of what I believe the outcome will be for the quarterback. Do you guys consider Matt Ryan to be vanilla? Yeah, absolutely. So like vanilla ice? Yes. I would say, yeah. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I mean, I get it because Maddie, Maddie Ice, but Maddie Ice is already such a dumb nickname. Yeah, you've always really hated that. Well, just because it's so dumb. You hate it, too. Yes. Oh, I did.

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It is not my favorite. Falcons fans let us know how you feel about that nickname or whether you think you've got a guy with ice in his head. But that's my biggest problem with it. This is a guy who does not have ice in his veins. When he's down, he folds. That's my... That's my... An MVP season puts up consistently gaudy numbers.

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Yes, but that's, but the way he does it. He's not one of those guys when you're down that you want the ball in his hands and you believe it. I would say for some reason he doesn't feel that way. Yeah, and that's the ice in the veins. The cold-blooded just. That's why he gives it to other players. You know what it is? It just comes down to that red zone interception problem. Like you drive down, he's driven down the field in lots of game winning situations, but then it's like closing the deal. Yeah. You reminded me there was a time of, I don't know how much I pushed it on the show, but I've.

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I referred to him as Manila ice because it reminded me of like a Manila envelope. I do not remember that. That seems like not something I want to be compared to. A manila envelope? I didn't see. I mean, there's a lot of utility in Manila envelope. Try and get one of those things open. Is it always, is it his fault that Julio has, has the touchdown problems? That's, that's an interesting question. Chicken or egg there. I have no idea. Yes, of course it is.

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Here's what I can promise. Julio Jones is not the problem for his touchdown. Julio Jones can catch touchdowns and is amazing. Julio is not the reasoning for it. So yeah, I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it on Matt Ryan. Is Matt Ryan like the Madden player who is like this play just works too well? So I need to go over here to my third read. They're going to always think it's coming here. So I'm never going to do it. I do feel like that happens with Julio a lot.

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They'll never see this cover. So maybe it's not Matt Ryan or Tula. Maybe it's... Check down to Tide End. It's the... They've had a lot of... They've had a lot of different coordinators where Matt Ryan does the same thing. Yeah, but these guys are super smart. Yeah. They go away from the best weapon around the goal. I would throw it to him. I'd throw him the ball. He's good. He's good at football. I want to see a game where...

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Every single target. Every target. Just let's find out what happened. One game. Throw every target to Julio Jones. Or Michael Thomas, when you've got the great. See if they can stop you. Yes. Well, Julio is so much physically bigger than people anyways. I mean, you could really do that on every play. I think that Ryan has tried a couple games. Yeah. They did that with Brandon Marshall. He's gotten close, but I want every target. 100% target sharing a game. And tell him. Tell him before they get at the coin flip.

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Every target's going to Julio Jones. What are you going to do about it? Yes, tell the defense. Yes. Absolutely. Now, what about dump-offs? Would that, would that be allowed or just wide receipt, you know, deeper targets? Are you? Oh, no. It's all allowed. It's everything. But you got an audible to it at the line every time. Julio. I mean, it reminds me of like back on old NBA games where you're like, what I would be LeBron. I'm like, you know what? You know who's scoring every point this game? LeBron. Try and stop this. Yeah.

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It'd be fun. That'd be a good time. All right. That does it for today's episode of the Fantasy Footballers. Thank you for tuning in, supporting the podcast. We'll be back with you on Tuesday next week. Enjoy the weekend. Stay safe out there. See you next time. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on Jointhefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter.

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