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Week 16 Buy or Sell + Playoff Push, Permission to Cry - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/22

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Week 16 Buy or Sell + Playoff Push, Permission to Cry - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/22

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I don't know who it was that tweeted it, but they brought up the idea of offering, like, if you're the Lions, you should offer Rogers and Devante all the money in the world and say you can run the franchise. You have say over all personnel moves, all the things that Rogers didn't get to do in Green Bay. That's funny. I don't know if there's enough money in the world. There's not. No. Rogers is on very limited time. You don't want to be with Dan Campbell? Come on. You can't go to a rebuild like that. You ready for some mailbag?

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Let's go. Mailbag. Mailbag. I don't know. Oh, it's been a season, Mike. If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website, The Fantasy Footballers.com. Click the submit a question button, or you can dial the voicemail hotline. 302-464 TFFB. I've said that line so many times, like you can dial the voicemail hotline. Right.

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And then I just heard it for the first time in my head. And like, how antiquated does the word hotline sound? Like, dial our hotline. Like, that sounds like it should be done on a touchstone phone. And it's like, who was the marketing genius that came up with that? They're like, hey, give us a call on the phone lines. Wait a man. And they're like, that's not. Like a guy in sunglasses, cigarette in hand, that's not cool enough. We got to get people involved.

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We got to make it hot. Make it hot. Ooh, the hot line. A direct phone line set up for specific purposes, especially for use in emergencies. It's coming in hot. These questions about fantasy. Hmm. Yes. I mean, like, the bat phone, that was... That was a hotline. That is a hotline. That's the only hotline that's ever existed. If your phone is red and lights up when it's...

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when is ringing. Was that direct to Gordon? Yes. Commissioner Gordon. Commissioner Gordon. That's two Batman references in two days. We're on fire here. That was Adam West Batman. Yes. And that phone was right across from where you could go down the pole. Yep. And he somehow became Batman down the pole, right? Yes, that is correct. The suit came on. Just don't question Batman. Oh, I didn't. I just wanted one of those in my own house. All right, let's go to a voicemail question. Hey, ballers.

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minus D right now. Oh, man. No. I don't think so because I don't think he's that good. And I think the team's running out of patience. Yeah, Cleveland has a very difficult decision coming up of what do you do? Is he 50 your option and stuff? Let's, yeah, pull that up. You talk, I'll figure that out. Okay, so because Baker Mayfield has been okay. You have seen.

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Flash is here and there of he can be a true franchise quarterback, but you've also seen a lot of games where it's just, it's not great. Look at, like, O'Dell Beckham. What's been the deal with O'Dell Beckham and Baker Mayfield here for years? Beckham goes to the Rams. Now he, not that he is old O'Dell Beckham, or I should say young O'Dell Beckham.

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But he was integrated right into that offense and was very productive, not just for fantasy football, but for a real NFL franchise. Did you have the numbers? Yeah, he did. They exercised the fifth year. Okay. So he'll get $18 million next year. Yeah. But then he's an unrestricted free agent. Like there's no, they'll have to make an extension decision on him without question. For, in terms of, is he a sneaky buy or trade low for in Dynasty?

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perhaps in two quarterback leagues where you want to make sure that you always have a second quarterback to play. But at this point of his career, I mean, four years in, I think we know that no matter what, even if he becomes a franchise quarterback, his fantasy upside is just very limited. Yeah, if he stays there, which is if you're, that's got to be your hope, right? I mean, that he stays.

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with a long-term deal there and secures him as a starter. Now, but he's been, look, his fantasy finishes as a quarterback, 19, 17. He's 26 this year. Now, I know he's been banged up and hurt. It doesn't really matter because this team's identity. You think it's changing overnight? Do we pay Baker Mayfield and we're a passing team? It's, he is an interesting name, now that we're talking through it of one of these teams that is close without a quarterback, I wonder if they,

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pick up the hotline for the Cleveland Browns. Like if you're the Denver Broncos and you feel like your answer is not on the roster and you're you're not in the running for one of the top quarterbacks in the draft at this point. Do you try and get Bakers for cheap? I mean, they did it for Sam Darnold. And that's, that was a bad decision. Yes. And that feels like it feels like going back to the Teddy Bridgewater. Okay. Drew Lockwell.

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Yeah, but no. So I don't think he's a buy low. I would, yeah, I would not trade for him at this point. And if someone else thinks he's a buy low, I might sell him, to be honest. Yes. Instagram question, it's for this week, DJ Moore versus Tampa, O'Dow Beckham Jr. against Minnesota. That one is very easy for me despite the bad week from Beckham. It's Beckham. It's Odo Beckham for me as well. Like, DJ Moore over the last month has.

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quietly been fine. For fantasy football, you're talking three of his last four games. He's been a top 24 wide receiver. The week that he wasn't, he was wide receiver 33, six for 84. He's been okay. But with Cam Newton and PJ Walker, there's just, there is no ceiling there. And the Minnesota Vikings matchup is, it's still solid for wide receivers. All right, let's do another voicemail.

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I can't believe I'm asking this question. Do I start Tom Brady this week or Tatham Hill? And I do have Mike Evans if he plays with Brady. All right, guys. Thank you very much. Love the show. Hey, Rhett. You were right. That question should not be asked this early in the morning. My stomach was not prepared. Tom Brady against Carolina. 44 point over under, 10.5 point favorites. So definitely no Chris Godwin who has a torn ACL.

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I would say more than likely no Mike Evans. I'm going 70, 30, no Mike Evans. Okay. So as in you believe he'll be out? Correct. So. No, Fournette, which actually matters. I mean, like, moving the sticks, Fournette was catching six, seven, eight passes a game. Yes, that absolutely matters. So you're talking to the greatest player of all time. But, I mean, Antonio Brown should be back this week. So that's, that is a massive, that's a massive upgrade. You're playing, Tayson Hills playing the Miami Dolphins. It's the lowest over under the week.

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38 and a half points. Dolphins are on a win streak. Yeah, I agree. I'll play Tom Brady. People were giving me the business for the Miami defense last week, you know, through a couple of plays. Sure. But if you look at that game... Where did they end up ranking? I mean... They were good. Yeah, and one of them was like, you know how a lot of leagues will carve out, like if the defense scores or special teams, they won't count it against the defense? Right. Well, they had the...

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they had the turnover that got down to the two-yard line. And then the defense gives up a two-yard run. It wasn't like the defense was bad. Yeah, on our website, we're showing they were number six. Yeah. I mean, they're playing good football, and they've won a ton of games in a row. They're seven and six. And look, Tayson Hill has not shown that he can get it done in the passing game with the weapons that he has. So you're hoping for some rushing yardage.

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We saw that the floor was lower than we thought it could be last week. Sure. But, I mean, that game was weird. That was a, what was the 9 to 0? Yeah. At the end, Taysom Hill versus the Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That's a game. I think you just, for both sides, need to crumple that up and throw it in the garbage. We can't afford to. We don't have enough Taysam Hill starts to count into our memory banks.

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I don't know. I would probably just play Brady with the chip on his shoulder after a loss. Like Brady, Ariens after a loss, Antonio Brown, Rob Grancowski. The Antonio Brown thing is humongous. Because if it, like, legitimately, I know he's Tom Brady, the greatest of all time. But if you're throwing the ball to Tyler Johnson, Scotty Miller, and Bradshawd Perryman, those are your weapons? Last week he didn't even have Perryman.

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Right, because he was on the COVID list. So it's like he is getting some reinforcements this week. So that's where I'd go. Now, I don't get to make that choice in Dynasty because he killed my season. Hopefully Brady just has some extra kale smoothies this week. Yeah, drink up, man. I imagine he kale smooth. I don't know. Does he, you think, does he smoothie? He may mainline it. They put it in the IV bag and just because of the drip. It might be a kale drip.

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It might. Is that part of TB 12? I'm seeing, the producers are nodding. I think they confirmed. Oh, man. Confirmed. I'm just surprised you haven't hit the Plant Man drop you. Kale on the right. Oh, you're going double arms? Oh, yeah. Carrots on the left? Carrots. Oh, yeah. You got to get that eyesight right. Doesn't that, isn't that, they fully liquefy them for the IV? Well, not for Tom Brady. It's actually, it's not even, it's not even liquid. It's just, it's just vegetables go right into its body.

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It's working. Whatever he's doing is the best thing ever. There are, yeah, I mean, I'm 37. And I watched a 37 year old LeBron James fly the other day. Right. And then Tom Brady's, what, 44? Yeah, 44.4, actually. I really need to eat some plants. I have not, I have lived a long time without a real commitment to plants. It's the taste.

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It tastes like crap. And that's why Tom Brady just has them put into his body. You can avoid the taste buds. That's right. He's a genius. Yeah, all right. We're learning. You're saying that I, do you think I could still? No, there's not enough time for the vegetables you need to consume. Okay. For me to get. Yep. You need to have started when you're five. That could have really been something. That's when he created TB12 when he was five years old.

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Because someone looked at him and said, I don't think you could do that. That's right. Spencer says, how do I stay committed to the rest of the season if I lost in the first round of the playoffs? I, you know, we talk about this a lot. First of all, I'm sorry. Second of all, you're not alone. Yeah, it's surprising every year you forget, but actually only one person in your league can win. I know. I know. We were. It's very difficult. We had some friends over last night. We were sitting by the fire.

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I was reflecting on week 15. I felt like I boxed were getting out of the ring. And my wife was like, you know, like there's like a 11 out of 12 chance that you're depressed at the end of the year. And I'm like, that's true. Yeah, but the way to stay involved, I mean, DFS, if you've never jumped into that, if you're in a place where you can play, we do have a fantastic DFS podcast hosted by Kyle the Borgogan and our dude Matthew Betts. And if like, honestly, if you are

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in a place where you can play DFS, it's possible that you can also do prop bets. Like, that's a way where you can test that fantasy knowledge of, like, I like this player. Is he going to hit over 67 yards this week? I think you can challenge yourself there as well. You know, we try to, like this is a year-round show. So there's a long period of time coming up that, you know, you're not in the playoffs either.

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Right? And you're you're following the show and we're reflecting like some of the questions we had today on Diggs and McLaurin and we try to keep the show entertaining and you can watch us meltdown and you can stay connected with the last three or four weeks of the season because, you know, a lot of things happen in that span, especially for young players where you may get an indication of how to view them for next year. So we'll try to keep you connected and enjoying yourself.

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Unless I lose to Al, in which case I'll be gone. And I'll get the flu on purpose. Instagram question from John. Can you trust Dak this week? Oh, my gosh. After multiple duds. He's been outside the top 20 in all three weeks. Washington, my answer is definitively no. Yeah. No, no, no. Washington is setting up to be very similar to the game script that I would have seen in the New York Giants game.

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which is if you're coming, you don't need to air this out. Washington is not going to be able to put points up. How healthy is Antonio Gibson? Well, I mean, Hertz did. Hurts when, like, Jalen Hertz is not known for prolific passing hardage. I dropped a 300. I hear you. But I don't think Washington is going to be able to do enough against that defense. So, yeah, maybe Heineke's back. Maybe Gibson's out. McKissick's on IR. I don't know if we mentioned that.

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Oh, I had not heard that. They made the move? I believe so. Okay. Yes, I did. I saw that report yesterday. So you're talking about, you know, as a follow-up on the waivers, if your waivers are going through tomorrow, Jared Patterson. Yeah. You better put him on the radar. He's in that Somagia P-Rine could be really helpful. He scored his first touchdown of his career yesterday. So, and is the season, you know, is this, is it over for Washington at this point, mentally? Right. They're probably out of it.

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