Week 4 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Clown Show - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/28

But the injury combined with Heineke, I am probably, the other names that we've brought up, I would rather take a shot on. But speaking as the real number two that you brought up, did you guys see Jalen Hertz quote about last night's game? Yes. Oh, no. Yes. Did it have to do with the number two? It did. It said, here's this quote, you take a deuce. You don't sit there and look at it. You flush it and move on. We're going to flush it and move on, which is the right approach. Jalen, I love it.

Good for you. At least you know that it was caca. Yeah, it happens. It happens. Running back waiver pickups. Oh, it's thin. It's thin on the waiver wire for running backs. I mean, everyone's going to compete if he wasn't already picked up like he was in our League of Records. Yes. Oh, man. So I went. You would have bid everything. I went, well, even before the week, I went to pick him up. I did. And I went a day late.

One day late to pick him up prior to the week. I'm the Christian McCaffrey manager in our league of record, and I saw he was on Andy's team, and I literally thought, well, I'll just pick him up next week after he drops him. How hard do you go after Chuba? Well, so here's my take on Chuba. Chuba should go to the CMC manager in almost every situation. Because if I'm not the CMC manager or someone that's absolutely injury riddled desperate for a play,

I don't look at Chuba as someone I'm spending all my capital on. I look at him as, you know, 25, 35%, that's fine. You're going to get a little bit of play. Matt DeSorbo, one of our writers, looked since 2015. Backups make more than one start in a season just 41% of the time, more than two starts, just 32% of the time. And those starts average 10 fantasy points per game. So this isn't like a must, you've got to grab them. But the opportunity is there.

So the way that I look at is if I'm the Christian McCaffrey manager, I'm willing to pay half my budget. Oh, more than that. Or more. More than that for re-injury risk rest of season and having that, yeah, I'd go 80%. Sure. I mean, my point is you've got to get him. You've got to have them. And if I'm not the Christian McCaffrey manager, I don't think I want to take that shot. If he's not absolutely necessary to you this week, you probably just let that CMC manager. I mean, if you're playing against the CMC manager,

Okay, okay. Maybe you play keep away and you get a two-fur. I think I'd go a little bit harder than you're talking about, Jay. Dallas and then Philadelphia. And I think that Chuba Hubbard can, I mean, Andy just said it. You have to, you're trying to buy wins a week at a time, just a chunk at a time. And Hubbard, at least what they showed us from this past week, he's going to be the primary guy. Royce Freeman is still around. And honestly, I don't think we have on the list, but.

I think in a little bit of a deeper league, Royce Freeman just put up one, a $2, whatever, try and just sneak them on the back of your bench and see what happens. See if it really is Chuba being a 65% guy or maybe it ends up being 50-50 after that's what they game plan. There's two things I think that matter here. I agree with Jason Cinnamon if the CMC manager should end up with him. And then take a look at your roster. Do you need a flex start for the next two weeks?

I think Chuba Hubbard will be flexible for two weeks. Yes. What if you've been counting on Tyson Williams as you're running back too? I would play Chubo over him. That's what I mean. So if you're in that boat, now the other thing to consider that I wanted to say was just that there are players that may have a longer shelf life. Like if Cordero's still out there, it seems like he's going to be a part of the offense for the whole season. And so you may want him out there.

And you may want to invest in him more than Chuba Hubbard. The way that I look at Cordero Patterson is coming into the season, there were people who really believed in Mike Davis as the every down, workhorse role, and he's stolen a piece of it. He's behind him. And then there was all the Russell Gage, the talk about him being really, really.

valuable in the passing game. Now the Julio's gone, he's stolen a lot of that. And then there's Kyle Pitts, rookie sensation going to light the world on fire and have over 1,000 yards. And he's stolen a piece of that. And you take all that and all of a sudden you go, this is a pretty good fantasy option in Cordero Patterson. He's certainly, I would, I went and tried to.

kick the tires in a trade last night for Cordarral as the CMC manager who cannot get Chuba. Would you rather have, let's say they're both there and this is, you know, both of these guys are only available in like 30, 35% of leagues. Would you rather go after Corderole Patterson or would you rather go after Zach Mus? I would rather go after Cordero

We brought up. Zach Moss is certainly a pickup if he's out there on your waiver wire. He's had two back-to-back weeks. He actually. Nice match up against Houston. I would go Zach Moss. Out touched Devin Singletary. But he is still in a timeshare and they, in a time share that doesn't want to run the ball. They have had a little bit of success so far this year. If that continues, great. But obviously we just brought up.

you digs and Emmanuel Sanders and Cole Beasley is a passing team when you split the running backs in half. And, you know, the touchdowns make it valuable. And there's been touchdowns to the running back so far. I just don't think that's going to stick. Other names to throw out there, you know, Sonny Michelle, I wouldn't heavily invest unless you were the Darrell Henderson manager because he could be back this week. But, um,

You know, Zach Moss was brought up. Naim Hines continues to contribute, but mostly rostered. Latavius Murray mostly rostered. Kenneth Gainwell is, I mean, very difficult to really make a compelling case for. He was barely used last night. And so, you know, that's a stash, not a play this week. And then Peyton Barber, the hard part about Peyton Barber, I'm going to just lay it out there for you right now on Tuesday. It's the Monday night football game against the Chargers.

And so if you are going to have a song and dance with Josh Jacobs availability, which went right down to the wire this past week, you better have a backup plan. So if you have Josh Jacobs, go grab Peyton Barber. If you have, I mean, I just don't know what the pivot is on a Monday night football when it comes to, you know, Echler is going to be rostered. Yeah, you're 100% right. The Payton Barber is the guy who.

should be rostered for Josh Jacob managers. And that's the situation where you can be confident. Otherwise, you can't. This could be one hit wonder for Peyton Barber. Yes, you can't possibly put him in your lineup. But he is proof positive in the camp of running backs don't matter because you go out, you pay $11 million for Kenyon Drake and a first round pick. Wide receiver, Kenyon Drake. Yeah, and a first round pick on Josh Jacobs. And it's like, let's just bring this guy in off the street, cut off of, you know.

Another team. I think that Barber is still a good speculation ad from, one, you already have proof of concept that two weeks in a row now, that Peyton Barber was the guy that John Gruden went to in the absence of Josh Jacobs. We don't know if Jacobs is going to be okay this week to play, but we know that he has been banged up, you know, multiple times throughout his career. And who's...

Maybe Monday Josh Jacobs plays and he goes out there and boom, the toe is already a problem re-agravated and now he misses a couple games. So I think that people aren't excited to get Peyton Barber. You probably shouldn't be really excited about it. But the way that running backs, the way that the running back landscape is right now, I think Barber.

is a good stash, even if you're not intending to play him this week. And it's not a great week for waiver running back. In fact, every single player that we've mentioned so far could already be rostered in your league. But there is one backfield that...

If you're in desperate need, has one to be sneaky. An opening, and that is the New England Patriots. We talked about it in the news. James White, who was very, very relevant, very used, used in the passing game, had a rushing touchdown, is out and out for a while indefinitely. So you have to make the decision between Ramandre Stevenson and J.J. Taylor. Here's how I view these two backs.

They really like both backs. They both looked good in preseason. Ramandre Stevenson is the more talented running back. If you want to take the shot on talent, I would take it on Remandre Stevenson. He tore up preseason, came in week one, and immediately was in the game, like first drive, I think, fumbled, and then has been Baxter punted off the bridge, has not seen anything since that fumble.

hardcore benched. JJ Taylor is the more James White role. The guy that is a really good past catching back has not done much of anything so far in his career, but has the talent to succeed in that role. So it's just a matter of do you want to go with the more talented Ramandre Stevenson? This is his opportunity to be forgiven for the fumble or Bill Belichick against Tom Brady in what he views is he going to win this thing? Is he going to trust the guy?

who he has a fear of fumbling. To me, they're just both long-term stashes. I mean, Brandon Bolden is going to play. And Damien Harris is going to play. And so then it's like, you're at the bottom of a barrel here. It's not like remandre is getting first and second downs. Yeah, you're probably not starting either of these guys. And if you're not starting them this week, then it would be Remandre Stevenson as the player that I would pick up, hope he gets out of the doghouse due to injury and dominates because I think he can.

Tight-end waiver pickups. Tight-in, always tough in the streets. You can drop Johnny Smith and, I think, move forward trying to find a better solution there. Would you drop Jared Cook after two disappointing weeks? For some of these guys, this is actually a good waiver wire week for tight-end. Do you believe in Tyler Crocklin? Seven for 70 in a touchdown, 72% of snaps. He looked great. It's interesting because, like,

I want, my brain immediately wants to go to the narrative. Well, Davin Cook was out. So, you know, some of those checkdowns, they just went to Tyler Conklin, except Alex and Andrew Madison was heavily used in a passing game. Can I make one quick argument to help you decide? Sure, con, con, con, man, pick him up. Pick him up. Yeah, I, I believe it. He's the best pick up this week. I, uh, I, of the best.

You know, I would say Evan Engram is more likely to see targets. Evan Ingram also a talented for the New York Giants. Yes. Talented just, that's all you can say. Well, no. That's all you can say about Evan Ingram. Now you can say there is opportunity because Sterling Shepherd is hurt and Darius Slayton is hurt. So they, and Kenny Gallaud is still not 100%. They need Evan Engram on the field. He'll see.

Four plus targets. No, he'll see more than that. Four plus. My, okay, that's fair. I can't say that you didn't agree with that. Four plus. I think Evan Ingram ends up with a stat line of 10 or 11 targets for four receptions. You know, I think I would go with Evan Ingram over Conklin. But those are the two guys that I would pivot to. You just said I'm going Daniel Jones over Kirk Cousins.

Yeah, I know. I know. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it, I just look at last year. He had 109 targets. You were happy that you started him four out of 17 or 16 weeks. I guess I'm done mentally with it. I love to hear it because I've been anti-evidenting. I would rather, rather than bet on something that never can materialize for everything. I'd rather bet on something new materializing for Tyler Conklin. Or I'd rather bet on like Mike Kosicki.

You know, Mike Isicki had 12 targets in this game. Run the second most routes at Tide-in in week three, and this was obviously a completely new game plan built for not having Tua. So you could see it again. And then Dawson Knox was Dawson. Yeah. He's more of like a three. Yeah, I don't like it. He's been, I mean, two weeks in a row with a touchdown, you go back to the end of last year. He's a touchdown gamble.

It was pretty strong. And if you want to make a gamble on a touchdown, why not? I'd like to have Josh Allen as that quarterback. It's like Robert Tunyon. He's not a guy that's going to, you're taking a bet on Aaron Rogers throwing a bunch of touchdowns. That's what Dawson Knox is. What about the tied in one in Dallas? Yeah. Dalton Schultz with the number one overall week at the tied in position. 69% of snaps. That's where he's been hanging out. It's pretty nice. I would say that.