WR & TE Rookie Preview + Tough in the Streams - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/8

see all of this. They're not going to look at his production and feel like we can't go in on Waddle. Waddle, I fully expect to be a first round wide receiver. I think we're going to have four. A fifth may slip in there. Do you have a, uh, no, we're getting ahead of ourselves projecting, but how many wide receivers would you put in the first round this year? Four. Four? Yeah. I guess you could have a fifth, but I think four. All right, but yes. I think we were surprised last year how many.

Got in there. I mean, people are looking for weapons. Yeah, but Waddle is, he's incredible. He was well on his way to having a full breakout season with Alabama before the injury. He's Jason's number two. Really? Yes. Oh, I guess he has Jamar Chase at what, like nine or ten? Out of his top ten. Oh, man. I love that he's not here.

Yeah, he said he, you know, better overall wide receiver than Ruggs. Ruggs obviously went very high due to the speed. In the NFL draft speed is very, very valuable. Traits that seem unstoppable to him in terms of Waddle. Like you said, you can't data scout him, but he is a difference maker on film. Are we moving on to Terrace Marshall? Yeah, I think we've waddled away. All right. At 6.3, 200 pounds, Terris Marshall Jr. out of LSU.

When Jason alluded to his thoughts that maybe Chase wasn't even the best player on the team, which... That's wild. That's his opinion. Yep. He has a right to it. And goodness, scouts are wrong all the time. So, Terrace Marshall, though, I was super impressed with him. I know he's a player that Kyle Borgignon, editor-in-chief, DFS Pass extraordinaire.

He says, you know, this is the flag. He's planting the flag on Terrace Marshall Jr. Loves him. Great body control, explosive after the catch. He opted out of half of 2020. He played seven games before that. Yeah, this weird, this season was very strange. Number one, we had, you know, quite a handful of high profile players just full on opt out, you know, Jamar Chase, Kenneth Gamewell. You also had these players.

that once their team was out, then they were like, yeah, I'm done. I'm going to get drafted. So I'm bailing out. But on a per game basis, I mean, he was, Marshall was absolutely destroying this year over a 46% dominator, which is, that's the team's receiving yards, his share of the receiving yards and the touchdowns. He, in this draft of this draft year, we have,

So many small, speedy guys. Terrace is one of few wide receivers who can come in or who are going in. They're big. They have a full NFL frame to be an outside wide receiver where most of these guys are profiling as inside or slot guys. I think that's one of the things that I really liked about watching him on the field. I mean, he also, he comes out of the same, you know, he played 82% in the slot where Justin Jefferson was.

In 2019, Marshall came and filled that role, dominated at that position. The size it came through on film, I was super impressed. Like, if he lands in the right spot compared to, you know, Chase and Smith, there's no reason he, he's good enough to be the best rookie wide receiver. Let's put it that way. I do agree with that. And he's not going, in my projection.

he's not going to one of the really bad teams. You know, the prize that you win for being such a good NFL or a college player is, unfortunately, you go to a bad NFL team. Marshall is in that sweet spot of he is pro ready and he could be taken in the 20s. He could be taken by a playoff team and just right in a situation to succeed because the team is already good and they just need a wide.

an outside wide receiver. So if he goes between 20 and 32, for example, you could have some destinations like the Colts. Okay. You could go to Jacksonville. If they were going to move on from DJ Shark, they might need a guy. You could go to Baltimore. No, no, no. Go to Green Bay. Yeah, that would be incredible. But.

I wish you had not spoken that into existence because... If Miami goes a different direction, he could go to Miami at 18. Baltimore knows they have to draft their wide receivers. And they will. And we'll... That would be sad. We'll pray for them. All right, Mike. I know you like this next guy. Yes. By the way, was that Marshall's 40-time? 4.38? Goodness gracious. Even in this pro-day... Yeah.

Stop watch time. I don't care. If that's a 4.43, that's still pretty spicy. Breakaway speed. Rashad Bateman out of Minnesota. Another guy that shows out well on film. Sure-handed. Great after the catch. Great route runner. Not an elite speed guy, but I don't care. Seems pretty good. Right. And what's tough here for Bateman, I was very impressed by his tape as well.

uh you'll if you log into the uh the dynasty pass or the dynasty pants whichever one you go to baitman is enlisted in the rookie fallers because he was listed at six to two two hundred and ten pounds yeah now we all like to fudge the numbers fellas we like to be just a little bit taller yeah then uh you're like maybe you're five eleven jesus been saying he's six foot for a long time if you're five eleven

You're going up to six. Yeah. Well, he went up to six two, two, ten. And then on his pro day, he shrank to be six foot flat. And he lost 20 pounds. That is a humongous difference. That's not like. Six foot 190 instead of six two, two, ten. That's, you didn't just put a couple stones in your pockets when you were weighing in. Like, that's a really large difference. Yeah. You'd be a big liar.

Someone's a big liar. But he was still awesome. Jason pointed out his 2020 tape wasn't as good as his 2019 tape, and he doesn't know what to do with that. Good size, good production, good breakout age. But again, he's another one of those players. This could be a second round wide receiver. It could be a late first if more wide receivers go off the board. Overall, were you...

Overall, my- Excited with him? Yeah, my quick notes on him were you could tell he's, he is very strong. We'll see if he's 190 pounds or 210. He's got enough speed, and his body control was excellent for going up. And, you know, when a target is slightly off and you have to contort and snatch it out of the air, I thought he had that down. So I am excited for Bateman. All right, somebody who is certainly not going to weigh in at 210 pounds. We'll go on to Ron Dale Moore.

5-9-180. Explosive player. We've actually brought him up on the show before. Yeah. The lightning in a bottle analogy makes sense here. Watching him play, amazing. Ran a 4-2-8. Goodness gracious. But what is he at the next level? The amount of production that we have on Rondale Moore, the last couple of years in college, I mean, he played four games in three games. Yeah, he kept getting hurt.

So you have to rely mostly. I mean, there's enough to watch, but he dominated as a true freshman. Here's the reason why Rondale is so. Make the case for Rondale. The case for Rondale Moore is he's at Purdue. He is a true freshman. And so this is back in 2018. But as a true freshman.

He carried a 37% dominator rate, meaning he had 37% of the teams receiving yards and teams receiving touchdowns as a true freshman out there playing guys who are in their young 20s. And he is still a very young. As an 18-year-old, right? So, yeah, 18.2 was his breakout age, which is that is so absurd. So that's it. But.

But he is extremely undersized. He will have to be schemed and in the right fit. And on top of that, then he just kept getting hurt. So there are a lot of red flags here for NFL teams. But there's such incredible upside and ceiling for Rondale Moore that someone will take the chance and they'll take the chance earlier than later. And I think the point I'll just repeat it that I made on Moore is where does he go?

Does a team look at him as a jack-of-all-trades special teamer make an impact more in the NFL than he does in fantasy, or does he, is he handed a bigger role? And the injuries are a concern, too, just dealing with them at the next level. All right, let's talk about Elijah Moore. Elijah Moore, 59, 185. He played behind A.J. Brown and D.K. McCaff at Ole Miss back in 2018, been a slot receiver, ran a 435 on Pro Day.

um you know jason made the point another super fast super tiny wide receiver i i thought he played bigger than his size on film i thought that there was some things to compare to an antonio brown on film okay um with eliza more and uh very explosive played in the slot what was your takeaway with with more yeah so my my quick notes on him were uh it's like he does seem to be open

A whole lot. Yes. And running a lot of slants, which, I mean, that's, it's the funny knock on Michael Thomas. So, look, if you're an elite at running the slant, you're always going to be open. Solid hands. And not, you know, the, not name withstanding. I was like, could this be a DJ Moore type of player? I need to see the athletics. That's a good comp. Because he was 10th and yards run per route, which is very solid.

And the athletics came through. Like he is, he is as fast as it seemed. So Elijah Moore is, he's interesting. I think that we're, after, you know, Ron Dale and Elijah, they're kind of like that same tier of, they're definitely not in the top. They're going to be in the day two pick range somewhere, I think. Rondale Moore, I guess, could surprise someone slip into the back of the first.

But this is really where things start to dry up, in my opinion, for these rookie wide receivers. So if you got a lot of seconds in your rookie draft, you might want to try and convert those into some first rounders because it starts to get really dicey after these guys. And Elijah and Rondale are already high ceiling, but they're already dicey.

Yeah, the other names, I mean, we can kind of maybe pick and choose here, but first of all, you've got the most complex named family because you're going from Equanimia St. Brown, Green Bay Packerwide receiver to his little brother, Amon Ra, St. Brown. Yeah, incredible names. And coming out of USC, you've got Seth Williams out of Auburn, Nico Collins out of Michigan, Cadarius Tony out of Florida.

Give me a name. It doesn't have to be one of those four. Those are kind of the consensus next four. But is there somebody that you really do like and you want to put out there into the universe here, put it on tape? Right. I mean, highlighting Seth Williams and Nico Collins just real quick, because they actually have size in this draft class that is severely lacking. But the name of if you have not.

heard his name yet, or if you haven't been paying attention really yet to rookies, is Jalen Darden. And he plays in North Texas, so smaller school, and he is a much smaller player as well. But he attributed 75% of the receiving touchdowns. 61% of the team's receiving yards.

And receiving touchdowns in the games that he was playing. His production is it. 19 touchdowns and nine games. It breaks everything. Yeah, I get it. You're at a smaller school. But still, the other teams know that they're going to throw it to Jalen Darden. And they couldn't stop him. Yeah. Yeah, very impressive. Wild stuff there. All right. Let's talk about the tight ends. There aren't a lot of them to talk about. Never are.

There also isn't a lot of breaking news at the top. I'm not sure if you've heard his name before, but Kyle Pitts seems to be the number one guy off the board. Holy crap, Kyle Pitts is incredible. Is the hype reaching a level that is just never seen before at the tight-in position? Because we come on here every year and we say, look, just muddle your expectations for rookie tight-ins. It doesn't matter how good they are. They don't come out and make an impact as a rookie.