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Week 10 Waivers + Streaming Options, Breaking Trade News! | Fantasy Football 2025 - Ep. 1839

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Jason returns from a mysterious follicle emergency with the lingering Cam Scataboo mustache, while Mike's Dax City stack collapses and the hosts crown Colston Loveland Cadsden Dogland after a monster play.

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I mean, I don't know. It's not like they're trying to get some other guy involved, like Devin Neal or whoever. Right. He didn't get the reception bump we thought could happen with Chuck. He had one catch. His target share, I believe, went up. I mean, three targets. Yeah, they didn't throw the ball at much at all. I don't care about target share. I don't care about target totals in that offense. Remember in this game that the Rams. utterly dominated. This was a farce of a game where the Saints couldn't do anything, didn't have the ball much. I would certainly not throw Alvin Camara a way to waivers, but I don't think it's going to be as bad as it was this last week for Tyler Sucks first start. Woody Marks, 13 opportunities, 27 yards last week. I wouldn't drop him. Don't drop him.

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wide receiver waiver pickups we talked about jaden reed they're working to get him back he is but what is close man but what is close what i mean what is anything who can say what close means it's all in my head it's all in my brain um i there's a chance jane reed matters at the end of this there is a chance i will agree with that i mean you talked about golden wasn't getting targeted a lot now hurt tucker craft gone I did not get to hear if you guys talked about Luke Musgrave. We'll talk about it in the waiver section for tight ends. I don't have the confidence that he'll be a major player in this offense. The yard after catch ability of Tucker Kraft was what was special. Yeah, Musgrave is not Tucker Kraft. No. And so to me, there's a place where Jaden Reed, if he is somehow on your waiver wire and you can tuck them on your IR and you can wait towards the end of the season, we see injuries every week, guys.

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They devastate teams. And there's a chance to Jaden Reed, who has been very good at the end of seasons before, is back. I don't know if you agree or disagree, but. I agree. I just think if you've got an IR league. He's probably not sitting on waivers. If he is, then might as well. He's not going to take up a bench spot. My league of record team is in desperate need of a third IR spot. I am going to have to keep an out Jaden Daniels on my bench. Yeah, I mean, so I would imagine if that's the case, you might have a more important out player than Jane Reed. Reed is 36% roster, believe it or not. Cedric Tillman, we talked about it, Noah Brown, eligible to return in week 11. I don't know why he's on here. Because we got to report the news. Mike Evans, week 13. Free agent pickups, I still think PJ, Parker Washington. Yeah. Did we say PJ earlier? No, no, I don't think so. Parker, Washington.

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Eight for 90 last week with Brian Thomas Jr. there. It's almost his third game with double-digit targets. The Jacobi edition does not change anything of how I'm looking at Parker Washington. He's important to this coaching staff and to this offense. And you have to accept that. That's what they're doing. So you follow those targets. Yeah. And I don't think Parker Washington's going to be a rest of season revelation. But right now while they need him and Brian Thomas seemingly with this trade, is probably not going to play as how I would view it without more information right now going into waiver wire day. So honestly, the Jacoby Meyer thing might be good for Parker Washington. It might allow Parker to not just be like, okay, this is the last guy we got a guard. Now, would you rather have Parker Washington or someone like Alec Pierce? Alex Pierce is my number one wide receiver pickup this week. Okay. So better quarterback, better offense. And he's been getting it done. Did you see the target totals last week? I mean, because they were.

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For Alec Pierce? Yeah, they were getting throttled. I mean, two of the last three games. I think him and Pittman had double digit targets. He was at 13, averaging 19.2 a catch. He is 12th in yards per game at the wide receiver position. He is such a good fit with Daniel Jones in this offense. And it's close between those two for me. I probably do what you did, which is to lean on the side of the better quarterback and offense that I have confidence in. But I think both of those, I mean, unlike the running back position, both of those guys are very, very viable. They're both under 30% roster. There's actually, I think, a handful of decent waiver. There's a good waiver wire week for wide receivers. I personally, I think Darius Slayton is a like a must add on rosters. Two weeks ago, he got that touchdown that was egregiously called back for a phantom call.

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I mean, back-to-back weeks, that would have been relevance. He's out there 90% of the time. I mean, he dropped a touchdown last this week. Yeah, I mean, that is kind of. Yeah, he's known to do that, but he is seemingly the number one target, certainly when it comes to valuable targets on this team, not just like screen game. No, I like a scrimmage stuff. And, and Darts looked great. Yeah, the matchup against Chicago is good so long as the wind is okay in the windy city. I will say the, because I like Josh Downs too with Alec Pierce. If it matters to you, it is an international game. They've kind of been due to do-do for fantasy value over the course of this year. So if that's part of your analysis. Except the Rams. Yeah, you've got to show up late. That's the secret. I'm saying for the most part. You know why the Rams showed up the night before and we're like, we're fine. They put a lot of crappy teams over there, Mike.

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When the good teams play over there, they play better. But when it's Jacksonville and Cleveland, that could be an issue as well. Tori Horton, are you chasing two touchdowns from Hortons? Yeah, I mean, I'm not chasing two touchdowns. I am chasing a rookie potentially breaking out. Obviously, this came while Cooper Cup was injured, and I don't know how long Cooper Cup will be out, but this is a player who has flashed. So much. He flashed in training camp. He flashed in preseason. He flashed on special teams with touchdowns early in this season. It's a little too much for me. He is basically just wearing an overcoat. That's it. Yeah. And he's just running around being like, touchdown. Oh, touchdown. Look at this. Touchdown. It's the post. I know the Cooper Cup injury lined up, but post by week rookie up to 73% of the snaps.

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and looks like he belongs and Seattle should be changing. It's rational coaching. It's a fallacy, but he looks like he should be playing that allotment of snaps every single week. I like it. I like him if Cop is not playing. Most years there is a second half rookie wide receiver breakout in the last like five years in the modern NFL and you know that you don't necessarily see coming. And this is one where it's like, You've seen those shows of brilliance and Sam Donald looks great. Sam Donald through his first eight games is beating every metric of Sam Donald through his first eight games last year when he was like legit for the Vikings. And there's also opportunity here from a play standpoint. Like Cooper Cup's injury, sure, it's much easier to determine Torrey Horton would be better when Cooper Cup is not there and the snaps are more guaranteed for Horton. But also.

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beating out an elder Cooper Cup to just earn more snaps while he's healthy, that could happen. There's actually a handful of rookies worth talking about. Beyond Horton, I mean, Tess Johnson comes back off the buy. I don't think they're any healthier in terms of their wide receiver group, and Tess Johnson has been heavily involved. Playing at home against New England, that's probably going to have a high over under. What about the Denver wide receivers when you look at Troy Franklin, who's still rostered in over 50% of leagues or the... emerging Pat Bryant, who, look, he didn't do a lot production-wise, but his snaps right at an all-time high. Another rookie that you could see getting more opportunities in the second half. Yeah, Troy Franklin, I mean, he's getting targeted way too much. I think he has more targets than Cortland Sutton. And what I mean, he's being targeted way too much for him to be available in almost half of fantasy football leagues. Pat Bryant and Kyle Williams, I kind of lump those two guys together because it's your...

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It's a deeper league stash. You're hoping that they start to earn more and more opportunity. Kyle Williams, I think, will be directly linked should booty miss time. Like Vrabel has already talked about Kyle Williams would be the guy who would step up into that role of trying to stretch the field. And Kyle Williams does have juice. Can he play in the NFL? That's TBD. right now, but an opportunity this weekend could be coming up. Yeah, Troy Franklin against Tampa Bay, which is that's not scary in the secondary. I would much rather, I know I'm the Troy Franklin guy, but I would rather have Troy Franklin than Pat Bryan. 21% versus 20% of the target share. So 41% of the targets are going to Corlin Sutton and Troy Franklin on the season. They both have 19% of the receiving yards for the Broncos. I mean, it seems, obviously Marvin Mims has missed some time.

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So that could change and it could go down. Certainly Cortland Sutton is the one, but it seems that Troy Franklin is the two for this team. It's going to be inconsistent. And the Broncos offense has been inconsistent. I mean, which Bo Nix is showing up each week. But yeah, I agree. Franklin should not be on waivers. Drop candidates, Keon Coleman. I think you can drop him. Yeah. Terry McCorn, if you have no IR spots left. Yeah. The odds of him being super relevant, almost zero. With Jaden Daniels out and this injury could last another four weeks. If you don't have IR spots for Terry McLaren, I think you've got to move on and get ready for your playoffs. You disagree? No, no, no. I actually do agree. I would hate to drop it. It would feel bad, but this looks. Like if Parker Washington can help me now? No, I get it. And he's not. It's like Keon Coleman. Yeah, great. Farewell. Go get somebody else. Terry McLaurin, it would be tougher. Matthew Golden, Brian Thomas Jr.

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Matthew Golden can be cut. Brian Thomas, I think we need some more information. I want to hear a confirmed he has a high increase. You cannot cut Brian Thomas simply because his name garners enough that you could trade him. You could give value even if, you know, if you're worried about the injury or his play. I mean, he hasn't been good this year. Yeah, he's crazy, man. I mean, we were right on the cusp of potentially a complete changeover to Travis Hunter. Like I think Travis Hunter, I mean, everything from the team, everything from the beatwriters, everything from the coaching staff, it was all going to be built around Travis Hunter, and then we lose them to a practice injury. And it would have been nice to see that, at least see what happens. Yeah, I agree. And then, yeah, with Matthew Golden, you don't want to know the list of first round rookie wide receivers over the last decade without a touchdown in the first eight games, because that's what Matthew Golden is. Kevin White. Oh, yeah, he was a bust. Rashad Perryman. Bost. Devante Parker.

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Agalore. Treadwell, Dotson, Mike Williams for the Chargers, John Ross, Corey Davis. It's pretty much all the biggest bus you've ever heard. Except Q. Except for Quentin Johnson. Yeah. And Mike Williams. I still am going to remember that wide open screen or the slant route. Oh, where he just ran out of it, but he didn't even try. Oh, no. Not one, yes. But I was going to say the one that Jordan Love missed him on when he was just standing in the middle of the field. Didn't he know about the stat? All right, we're going to take a break and talk tight ends. I want to hear your thoughts on Luke Musgrave and some of the other options this week, including a true dog in Colston Loveland. What's up, Foot Clan? Olipop is a new kind of soda with high fiber and two to five grams of sugar per can. And Oliop's latest collaboration is with Paramount Pictures introducing Pineapple Paradise, the Pineapplius soda from Bikini Bottom inspired.

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support. Don't get caught without a great backup. Visit progressive.com to quote today. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party issuers not available in all states or situations coverage subject to term policy limits and conditions. All right. Tight ends. I will start with Colson Loveland. I didn't get to come in here yesterday and react to the Studs episode. Amazing call by Mike that last week with Loveland. Thank you. There are plays. that can transform a person from a cat to a dog, a single play. And when four players are trying to tackle you in the middle of the field, you break all of those tackles and you go into the end zone. You're a dog, Jason. You're a dog. He's cat's in dog. Okay. Oh, wait, Cadsden dogland. He's cat's dog. Oh, so you just get to choose based on the, right now he's, he's, he's, he's, Cadsden dogland. That's what that's the best. That's the best I can give you. That's weird. Um,

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Look, he had, I mean, we talked about it yesterday. He had a phenomenal game and that was an awesome play against the Cincinnati Bengals who can't tackle anybody. And that's like the issue of all issues. And when you say he broke four guys tackles, there were, there, there, there were. Oh my God. Yeah. In the vicinity. No, they hit him. No, yeah, four people. Yes, they did. Watch Blake. I have the screenshot. You have a screenshot. Watch the play. Oh, the screenshot doesn't. Here, let me ask you this, Jason. It doesn't count because you're not watching the play and four people didn't hit him. There's facts in life. Which weeks has Tyler Warren had over 100 receiving yards? Zero. Which weeks has Tyler Warren had multiple touchdowns? Who would you rather have Tyler Warren or? I'm not just, no, no, we're talking. We're talking head to that dog. Like, you're taking it away from him. And that was a monster game. All right, there wasn't four guys.

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not only was there not four guys but the three guys in the screenshot didn't all hit him one guy hit him the other guy spun him around yeah that's fair yeah uh he's still dog it was it was still a dog i don't want to be i'm not trying to be negative on no i don't hate cast and doglin at all i think that he can he has totally the potential to be good for fantasy just like meowson taylor does this is it's fine this is a top pick Yes, top 10 pick in the NFL draft. This is the evidence that you need to see from a play. And that is why they drafted him. Exactly. A playmaker. If you watch the college tape on Colston Loveland, he was, I mean, there's a reason he was drafted in the top 10. Such an explosive athlete. He runs away from guys at his size and speed. You know, he was a wide receiver.

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an exceptional playmaker. He also only broke 6.8% forced miss tackles in college, 6.8%, which is an outrageous number for anyone that's drafted highly. Like, like, you know, Brock was like 25% Bowers and Leporta and all these topics. Legitimate question for you. Yeah. I want to actually ask this. There's no agenda. The broken tackles, when you're a separator, when you're an athlete at tight end. Do you have as many opportunities to break tackles as the ones that are always got a guy on their back? I mean, if a DB, and I'm not getting separation, is on me, I'm going to break that tackle 100% of the time. I'm asking the question because it's like... It makes sense. Some of that certainly comes into play. And also, forced miss tackles are not the perfect indicator of fantasy success from college to the NFL. Like, that's not necessarily...

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That's not one of the stats at that position that I specifically look to for fantasy success. I mean, there are plenty of examples of successful tight ends who weren't the dog mode type that were the field stretching, you know, not everyone is Antonio Gates. Jimmy Graham and Antonio Gates are totally different play style players. Not everyone's going to be gronk, and that doesn't mean you can't have great fantasy success. My number one pickup at tight end right now is Colson Loveland. Um, so, and I was, as a reminder, last week, Mike, your start of the week, I loved it for Colson Loveland. I was totally on board. I just want you to admit you're wrong. Yeah, but that's not going to happen until I am. And I will admit when I'm wrong, when I'm wrong, which is why I have called him cats and dogland. I got, I'm putting dog. Okay. You got, you got a little bit of respect. I'm halfway there. Toes in the pool. Yeah, just checking the temperature. Okay. You got to do it. You've got to do.

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to do it against not the Bengals. Okay. If you break tackles against the Bengals, I'm not saying you, you're a dog yet. Well, and now the Bengals lost from their elite defenders to the Cowboys. If you put all the defensive players on the Cowboys and Bengals together, you could get a top 20 defense. I think top 20. Harold Fanon Jr. coming off of the bye week, don't ignore him. I still like him more than going after Musgrave. I brought up Theo Johnson last week. He is going to have opportunities for touchdowns the rest of the way. He is a good player. He will drop a pass or two every game. Yes, he will. But, you know, when you're leaning on Darius Slayton and Wondale and Jackson Darts doing whatever you can do. He's very red light green light right now. Theo? Yep. And we would be on red light. Mostly touchdowns or? Mostly. Oh, yeah. You had Bellinger. Bellinger with a touchdown last week. So he's involved. What I'm excited about for Giants fans is just the whole like Theo.

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Scat, Malik, Jackson Dart, future. That is just so, like I love Jackson, I really do. I think he's a great player. He's very, he's, he's the most electric player to, like it has the pole that you want to watch and see what he's going to do. He's unequivocally a better quarterback right now than Cam Ward, obviously. Oh, oh, yes, clearly. It's just like Cam Ward's his number one overall pick and can't get it figured. I still can't get the throwing motion. What is going on with that? I guess it's just it. Is that how we threw in college? When you throw the ball stupidly, it's fine if you're Philip Rivers because with the production. When you throw it stupidly and you can't, you know, complete passes. Then we have to make fun of you. Yeah. Another good pickup coming off of the buy, I think, is Kate Aughton. Yeah. Kate Aughton is, you know, very necessary to the offense. He's not a guy that's going to go out there and score 15 points and be the number three tight end on the week.

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but he's that k dog in no wait i can do that one but you know he's a guy that can go out there and get six to 10 targets and ppr his way to plugging the tight-in position sure on your leaky boat defensive options coming off the by cleveland gets the jets whoa whoa yes please what about the advantage Yeah, they have no idea which quarterback they're going to play. It's a huge advantage of the Jets. Miles Garrett has no idea who he's going to sack five times. No, he can't, he can't plan on that. No, Cleveland, dear goodness, I held them through the by for this reason. They're the best defense in football are one of the, they're also only 21% rostered because a lot of people don't carry both.

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So the Cleveland Browns, to me, are the number one team to pick up. I agree. I think that's a great one. The Texans are available in about a third of leagues, and they're playing Jacksonville, who turns the ball over and has some wide receiver issues. If you want a team that is widely available, kind of a dirty, nasty boy. Oh, no, this is not dirty nasty at all. The Carolina Panthers, they looked great against Green Bay at Lambo last week. And they are at home against. currently named Tyler Sucks, a rookie who, I mean, the Saints just looked so outclassed last week. And obviously, I don't think the Panthers are in the tier of the Rams. But the Panthers, they have won several games in a row in the Bryce Young games, and they're at home. So I would play them and they're available in all your leagues because they're the Panthers. No, I love it. The five and four Panthers, by the way. Yeah. Somehow get no credit.

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Everything goes to how bad Green Bay is and nothing goes to how good care. And the running game with Rico, that helps their defense tremendously. Yeah, they're playing a time of possession game. And it worked. And it was awesome. So all the defensive waiver wire pickups also on the website. You can check out our list in order. All the waiver wire rankings are up there, the fantasy footballers.com. That was this week's waiver wire presented by Jimmy Johns. Jimmy John's new. Toasted pizza sandwiches available in two flavors, three cheese pizza sandwich and Sicilian pizza sandwich. Oh, that's good at participating locations for a limited time while supplies last. Full stream ahead. I'm going to let you guys kick off our quarterback streaming segment because I like your picks way more than mine. So I like Jason's the most. Yeah, I mean, I'm going Jackson Dart, you know, in Chicago. He might be rostered, but if he's rostered, he is not your only quarterback. This is a decision of.

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You've picked him up because he's looked good. This is the game to play him. He's the quarterback three in total fantasy points since becoming the starter in week four, which is crazy. He's rushing. We just talked about it. It's, you know, one of the top rushing quarterbacks in the league, and he hasn't been a starter until week four. Since the Giants, since the takeover, the Giants offense ranks. Ninth in play success, 12th in points per drive, and they're tied for fourth in most total touchdowns scored. He runs the ball. Chicago's defense has not looked good. They are tied for dead last in yards per play allowed. It's a tougher streaming week. Dart would be clearly at the top if he is somehow available. My suggestion right now, it's Michael Pennix. He takes on Indianapolis. It didn't work out for...

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Aaron Rogers. It worked for the Steelers, though, that you're able to score on the Colts. Pennix had three touchdowns last week. Yeah, he did that. They forced the ball to Drake London. He only has one wide receiver. He really. Did you know that? Yeah, yeah. He doesn't have any other wide outs. Well, thank goodness. They need to use Bejohn a little bit more. He's a running pack. I know, I know, but they needed Jacoby Myers. They lost the game because they didn't use B. B. John Robinson. Because it's like J.J. McCarthy, I think, he would have been in play. But the last three games that we've seen, Baltimore, their defense against quarterbacks, it has shifted. So that's something to pay attention to if you want to, you know, one of the tools we provide for the Foot Clan is our streamfinder. It really helps you identify these guys who kind of stand out. And you can look, I would suggest filtering, not just by the whole season right now.

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You want to see how teams are swinging and the Baltimore Ravens are, it looks like the swagger is coming back against quarterbacks for fantasy purposes. Did you see J.J. McCarthy's ridiculous stat line situation, the mirror for his two wins? No, I did not. So he was 13 for 143 and 2 with a pick in his first victory against Chicago. This week he was 14 for 143 and 2 with a pick. Hmm. Both of his wins, identical stat lines. I'm throwing Marcus Mariotta out there. He finds a way to just be okay most often just by running the football. Hey, Marcus, you're okay. Hey, as a backup, that's a pretty good thing to say. Averaging about 30 rushing yards a game, they run these like quarterback draws with him. If you can break loose on one of those, big over under, maybe a lot of garbage time with Detroit.

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Lions 23rd against fantasy quarterback since week three. Yeah, that's not bad. It's not the end of the world there. Mario is the type that can find his way into the top 10 on any given week. He's done it a lot. Would you play him or Pennix? Because I think that's a tough one. I would play Pennix. I think I like that it's a dome environment. I guess both are in a dome. Oh, no, no, no, no. The Mario is at home. this week. I think Mario does at home against Detroit. I like what I saw from Pennix last week. The suggestion was going to be C.J. Stroud at home against Jacksonville, but we don't know about his concussion. All right. One more reminder for Klankgivaway.com for that signed James Cook, Jersey. The community is at join the foot.com. I appreciate all of you supporting the podcast, the ultimate dashboard, bonus weekly episodes. A trade analyzer tool is going to release.

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very soon in beta in beta because i mean i mean real soon i'm talking soon like i got a stopwatch going yeah that's how soon it'll be out before jason's mustache is back oh that's for sure not soon enough that's for sure all right that'll do it for today's episode of the podcast maybe we'll have some more trade news for you tomorrow i gotta block myself behind the microphone more i didn't think about that just talk like this Yeah, you look great now. Take care, everybody. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at theFF ballers.