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Sleepers + Draft Day Fears, Dad Jokes | Fantasy Football 2022 - Ep. 1273

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The Sleeper episode opens a Megalabowl-to-Listener-League path, launches Spotify Live and catalogs the hosts' worst draft-day panic moments.

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I mean, you're going to have so many extra counting snaps for this team. It will, it will honestly be like you get extra games in a season over certain slow pace. What kind of snaps? What kind of snaps? What did he? Neutral game passing. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. So like, did you say counting? Yes, counting stats. Like, you know, basically the things are for fantasy football. You get just number-based targets, yards, accumulation. And I think that there will be enough to go around here for all the receiving options in this offense. And he's free. I mean, Isaiah McKinsey is going in the 12th round on Underdog, but in your home leagues, he's 16th round. He's undrafted. He's your last pick. It's funny because I think of James and Crowder, who they signed to come in and.

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compete for that role. If Crowder had won it and then played every starting snap, I think his draft position would be significantly higher than Isaiah McKinsey's draft position, just due to the free agency, name, familiarity, all of that. Some other bonus sleeper picks. Give me a name and a sentence as to why they might emerge. I'm going to throw out like this is a deep, deep sleeper. But Amir Abdullah. Deep. Yeah, thank you from. Oh, the Abdullah Express. Yeah, the Abdullah Express. Wow. I don't even have that. The best I've got for you is like, give me a train. All aboard. Look, maybe we're finally leaving the station. It is, it is possible. Look at the Las Vegas Raiders. Kenyon Drake was cut. The Josh Jacobs vibes are bad. You have McDaniels coming in. And we know that it, that.

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The running backs are going to see targets. Who is it going to be? They did bring Brandon Bolden over with them. So it could be Brandon Bolden. Like that exists. We haven't seen him in preseason. But the utilization in preseason of the Raiders has been very curious of like, especially Josh Jacobs in the Hall of Fame game. But Amir Abdullah in that game looked fantastic. Could. really excel if he earns the passing role. But by the end of the season, there's always players like this that just, they jump into fantasy relevance and it was not the easiest to see it coming because, one, it just, it feels really gross. It feels gross to tout Amir Abdullah on here, but I think there's a chance that he can't emerge. It was a pretty long sentence. Yeah, it's a very, it's longer than I expected. I'm going to go with Jahan Dotson, who is.

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I mean, he is a guaranteed starter in two wide receiver sets as a first round draft pick, and nobody wants him because of Carson Wentz. He's running the same routes that Terry McLaurin is running, and he's very talented. To be fair, Johan Dodson doesn't want to be there because of Carson Wentz. Right, right. He's with you. He just doesn't have a choice. Starter with Carson Wentz or backup with Patrick Mahomes. Right, that's a good question. If you're talking Skymore versus Johan Dotson. Yeah, I'll take the starter. It's a matter of like, do you want the sky more has much higher odds for offensive rookie of the year because he's on a good offense. And if he breaks out, his ceiling is higher than Johan Dotson. But the reality is, Jahan Dotson is far more guaranteed of being fantasy relevant this year than Sky Moore. It's just a matter of his ceiling is capped because of wins.

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Or maybe it's not. I mean, Jay Leno Wado was great last year as a rookie. Elijah Moore was great in spurts with backup quarterbacks on the Jets. Talent generally wins. My other sleeper name is KJ. Hamler, wide receiver for the Denver Broncos. Sure. Super talented pick, not far off of Jerry Judy in the draft, dealt with injuries. No Tim Patrick. Russ Wilson likes himself a downfield threat. So those are some sleeper picks on today's show. We're going to jump into the mailbag. Mailbag, yeah. Oh, let's go. So frightening. I'm very excited for this. If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. Click the submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline. 302-464 TFFB. Another reminder. Join us live on Spotify Live later today.

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And we will be answering questions there as well. Ryan and San Diego, how early is too early when drafting AJ Dillon? Oh, man. So, PPR League. He's going in the sixth round over on Sleeper. How early? I think the fourth round is probably too early because then you're just the opportunity cost of sacrificing the wide receivers. But the upside of AJ Dillon is. It's massive of what he could truly become. I mean, he's going to split time with Aaron Jones. It's going to be, I think, close to 50-50, if not them both just on the field at the exact same time for a lot of the game. A.J. Dillon, like, going back to his college profile, you know, doing all the combine metrics and things, he's six foot almost 250. And his athleticism profile.

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is very comparable to Derek Henry. And funny, like his career as a professional is right now on track with Derek Henry of second round pick, kind of fell a little bit in the draft behind a very talented starter. Derek Henry started his career behind DeMarco Murray, and it took years for us to see Derek Henry, except A.J. Dillon has better hands. So I would just go, if you want him, In the fifth round, I think, is fine to reach there. This is the best way to answer this because, Andy, you have A.J. Dillon as my guy. You believe you are in on A.J. Dillon. Here are some players going ahead of him, because I think it's less about what round and more about where he cycles in. Would you take A.J. Dillon or Elijah Mitchell? Dillon. Dillon. J.K. Dobbins. Dillon. Antonio Gibson. Dillon. Dillon. Josh Jacobs. Dillon. Dillon.

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That's where I break personally, and that's between the four and fifth round. More good news on James Robinson again. Yeah, I read an article from Camp talking about him getting his full workload back soon enough. AJ Dylan or Breece Hall? Dylan. Probably Dylan. AJ Dylan or David Montgomery? Dylan. I'll take Dylan. AJ Dylan or Cam Acres? Dylan. So right now, just on Sleeper ADP. Where are we? Cam Acres is going 311, so you are at the back of the third. Personally, I was between that fourth and fifth. I would take Brise and Travis E.T.N. over A.J. Dylan. But most of those first guys that I named that are going right ahead of A.J. Dylan, I think Dylan has a better range of outcomes than them. You always feel nervous drafting the player to fill a role that they haven't filled in fantasy before.

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That is, that's part of the challenge. And this is why his ADP is behind all those guys. Mm-hmm. Is a number of them have filled the role of like solid RB2. And that's how, that's how you have to view A.J. Dylan to me is like, I'm very, very comfortable drafting them as my running back to with upside. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's, the arguments I was making for Brise Hall yesterday, unknowns keep people down, but unknowns aren't knows. They just are, we haven't seen it yet. Yeah, it's not unknown. Well said. Wow. And for the record, like I wasn't, I mean, you know this if you've listened to the show. Like I was not a Dylan guy for the rookie season. Right. Like at the beginning, like not based on talent. It's just that combination of opportunity, what you've seen on the field. You know, it took some time to kind of be in on that. But there's a lot of potential. Chase Edmonds or A.J. Dylan. My guy versus my guy, Jason. And a PPR league.

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Do you have confidence that Edmonds will get enough work, or would you go Dylan? That's actually really, really interesting. I think it depends on my build. If I need a player, you know, I went really, really, really wide receiver heavy early, and I need a guy that I think is more likely to be a top 15 guy. I like Chase Edmonds more than A.J. Dylan straight up. But. AJ Dylan's ceiling significantly higher if he becomes the dude. He's a league winner. He's a top five guy. And you never take two players without taking into account their average draft position. I mean, sure. You're going to get Chase Edmonds way later. Instagram question. Can Jason please read a dad joke out of the book on his desk? We'll give you a moment while I ask Mike this question. Instagram.

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Who do you think will be the offensive rookie of the year? Right now, Mike, let me read you some of the odds on favors. Breece Hall is at plus 850, Kenny Pickett at plus 900. After that, you have Skymore and George Pickens and Chris Oliva next up. Romeo Dobbs at plus 1100. Oh, come on, people. Well, we haven't talked about it. Oh, the lunch. Romeo Dobbs apparently eating some lunch with Aaron Rogers. Where? Yes, the foot clan has asked. Where in the breakfast algorithm? Breakfast is a much different thing, man. Okay. Lunch is just lunch. It's not as, not as intimate. No, it's not the first thing you do it. A little less effort.

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Okay. I think, yeah, yeah, you got to set the alarm clock. Romeo Dobbs, do you think that Rogers makes him, like, pull out his chair form? I don't know. Maybe. Does Romeo Dobbs get a word in edgewise? What sucks here is Romeo Dobbs is good. I know. He was a good college player, and I think he's going to be a good pro, but we're just, things have gotten so out of hands. for Romeo Dobbs. After Dobbs is Tolbert, Garrett Wilson, Drake London, Kenneth Walker. So go ahead with your pick of Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett taking over and getting off. I think he takes the job and then it's just so much easier for a quarterback. I would take the Olive bet. I'm going to go with that one over 1,000 yards there in New Orleans. Jason, now your role on this show can be fulfilled. You know on Bruce Hall. I'm going to read two here because the first one caught my eye because it was football, but it's also not funny.

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All right. Perfect. Just like we like. What happens when football players lose their eyesight? I don't want to know. They become referees. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. All right. Here's a little better one. Why didn't the dog want to wrestle? Why didn't the dog want to wrestle? I don't know. Because he was a boxer. Yeah, okay. All right. All right. You got anything for that, Mike? You got any more drops for that one? Great. The computer liked it. Instagram question that has a bunch of emotion worked into the question itself from Commus C.09. What the heck are we doing about D.K. Metcalf and Tyler Lockett? Here's... I'm... The truth is, nobody is...

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undraftable by any means. There's a place where, you know, he's just going to be so much more valuable than the other players, either one of them would be so much more valuable than other players that they're next to in a draft. That being said, where they are being drafted, I won't end up with any of them, and I'm letting other players take the bet on talent. And that's what you're betting on, right? D.K. Metcalf is an unbelievably talented wide receiver, but we have... We know this. We've played long enough. We have enough history to see like these Hall of Fame first ballot Larry Fitzgerald wide receivers in the middle of the peak of their career. When they don't, when they have legit bad quarterbacks, like awful, they can just be the wide receiver 45 and be irrelevant. And then they get a quarterback and all of a sudden they're good again. So it's a weird situation because we just said like the rookie talent.

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can overcome quarterback. And obviously, Alan Robinson's done in his whole career. And, like, Tyler Lockett, again, I'm going to reiterate, highest receiving yardage of his entire career last year in Seattle, ninth round draft pick. D.K. Meck has a fourth round pick. You're going to bet against them scoring 10 times? I mean, it's like, you know, they get offensive possessions in Seattle in case you're not. aware of that. They get them every other possession. They're on offense. And even though Pete Carroll is making us eye roll with his, we might use both quarterbacks. Oh, no. You didn't hear that? No, Pete. I think he said something about when you have two, you're better. I don't remember what the quote was. Yeah. Isn't there a quote? If you have two starting quarterbacks, you have none. Yeah, it was really, really funny. Peter. I tweeted it's literally what I tweeted this morning, Mike.

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He said the article that came out on PFF says Pete Carroll doesn't rule out using both of his quarterbacks, Gino Smith and Drew Locke. And I said, Pete, the word you were looking for was neither. Because you were in a situation where you don't know who it's going to be, but you still have to throw the football. You don't have an elite defense, right? He may think that they are the Legion of Boom and the running back Marchion on Lynch. They don't have either of those pieces. You're going to be down in a ton of games. And Tyler Lockett hasn't forgotten how to be wide open. And neither has DK Metcalfe forgotten how to be Jai Gundis. Yeah, they're both good. I would rather take a shot on Lockett at ADP just because he's a ninth rounder. He's not costing me much. The other wide receivers I'm sacrificing in the fourth round are guys that I think are in much, much better situations to, you know.

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everybody gets to have a chance of offense. You know, the other guys you're drafting also get the ball every other possession. So I would prefer to have the better talent. That being said, if I'm drafting like right now, I still have the hope, the dream that like if I grab D.K. Metcalfe that somehow Gropolo gets cut and they bring them on board because that would change things. I think that that's a significant enough upgrade from the Drew Locke, Gino Smith. But I mean, Mike, a. ADPSI, you're taking DK Metcalf over Elijah Moore, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, sure. Man, where, what, what unfortunate soul ends up with Kennedy Gallaudet in every fantasy draft this year? The waiver wire. But I mean, he's going to be drafted. Not by me. No, I know, but somebody. Wow. Did that get louder? Oh, man, it needs to get worse. That, that video, that was too smooth.

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A lot of times the people's takeaway from that video between Kenny Gulladay and Wondale was like, oh, Wondale looks great, but I was right with you, Andy. I was like, this looks like a dude who does not care being Kenny Gulladay. He was out there running fat, lazy. It wasn't just the route either. I mean, we're harping on one video. But he also, when he catches the first pass, he does this really lazy tossback. So the coach has to go. you know, pick up the ball and to get back in the rhythm of the drill where Wondale, like, gave the ball back to the coach so he could do the drill. I mean, just to be clear, Kenny Gallaudet played in 14 games last year. No, he did. He played in 14. No. He was on pace for 44 receptions for 600 yards and no touchdown. He did. He played in. Give the man his credit. He had a game inside the top 40. He had one of those inside the top 40 at the position last year.

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It really, and it feels like they just burned. How much money do you get paid? 60 million? And I went and I looked at the cap situation and it's get ready for a 2003, Kenny Galladay, New York, because he's not going anywhere. Four years, 72 million dollar contract. You have the dead cap in front of you? I can pull that up. He'll be almost 30 by the time the season starts next year. I mean, I look. Good for you, Mr. Gaudet. He got that money. Really, though? Not good for you. Well, I mean, he played really well on his rookie contracts. They shouldn't be giving him that money. Dead cap next year is $14.7 million. And I would not put it past them to cut him. Because like the dead cap this year is $31 million. I mean, you didn't even score last year. This is one of the like preeminent double digit touchdown threats in previous seasons. We'll see. We'll see if Daible can do anything.

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Yeah, I mean. It's trying to be positive. No, I hear you. I mean, maybe we're all, maybe we need to get in on some Kenny G is what I'm hearing. You're saying. I'm not saying that, but I am. Kenny Gainwell. I am saying that Joe Judge and company were not professional NFL head coach material. All right. That is going to do it for today. The fantasy footballers podcast. Make sure you get in the Megal Bowl. We want to see you in there. It's going to be a ton of fun. Yes. I'm in there. Come draft with me. Yeah, and the Ultimate Draft Kit at Ultimate DraftKit.com. Get ready to dominate. Make your leaguemates feel stupid this weekend, please. Shame them. That's what you should do. And we will see you tonight in the party room on Spotify Live. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers.