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Mock Draft Show + The DUCERS! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/8

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Mock Draft Show + The DUCERS! | Fantasy Football 2023 - Ep. 1419

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Mock-draft special centered on the Deucers as an ensemble and the mechanics of drafting with friends.

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running backs and three wide receivers. I'm loving my roster. All right. After Tua, we have a disappointed Al Borland. Yeah, I played the ADP game. I lost, but it did give me a chance to get a packer on my roster. Oh, Team 6. So, AJ Dillon, to Al Borland, finally has his packer. Evan Ingram off the board at 807. I am back on the clock. I'd like to. improve the depth of my wide receiver room. Power at the top in Tyreek, breakout candidate and Brandon Ayyuk. But I am looking to find hopefully a little bit of maybe a combination of consistency and upside with this selection. Cadarious Tony on the board, Quentin Johnson on the board. But I'm going to go with the rule of talent emerges. And I'm going to go Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. First wide receiver off the board in Seattle. Yeah.

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I have no problem. I love the pick of taking Smith and Jigba. I just don't like when it's in front of Tyler Lockett. Yeah, Lockett went two rounds, two and a half rounds ahead. Kyle just took Mike Evans back on the clock. I played the 80P game, and I waited, and I went for Deshaun Watson here. All right. Yeah, I love that pick. And when you look at the entire league minus one team has a quarterback, and you can get a guy that I think has a... Certainly top five, six potential with the last of those picks, tremendous upside. Cadarius Tony went next, Gabe Davis and Mike, back-to-back selections here. You had been reacting to Evan Ingram off the board, which might have been one of your picks. It would have been, yeah. But you can't pick somebody else's player. I cannot do that. So tight end is now, I mean, Friamuth is interesting. You would have taken Evan Ingram ahead of Friamuth? I would have, yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's super dumb.

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Wow. That's one counterpoint. Okay. All right. Did you see the explosive games from Evan Angram last year? I saw both of them, yeah. They were two good weeks. Okay. That's his career. Two good weeks is the name of his documentary. That's fine. I know you're an Ingram man. Yes. Through and through. I'm going to stack up some running backs here. It comes down to, because I mean, I only have two of them on my roster headed into the eighth round. So the ones I'm looking at... But there are two of your top 24 running backs. They are. Top 50. Top 40. Top three. Yeah. So is Zach Charbonnet is in my short list here. And Rashad Penny, again, I just can't stop drafting him. And then Somaget P. Rhine at this point...

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Oh, gosh, no. Somaget B-Rine-P-Rine. Don't pick those guys. Somaget P. Rine is at the top because I only have the two running backs, and I'm projecting that Javante will miss at least a month. And so that gives me, again, one of our... No, he'll be back and he'll be fine. Just let him drop. One of my favorite tips for how do you play fantasy football is... like break the season down. Look at like, I'm going to take care of my first four weeks. And if I get a running back for who gets to play for Sean Payton that I can get four weeks out to help me try and figure things out from there on, I'll find someone off the waiver wire by then. So Somaget P. Ryan can help me cover because I only have the two running backs. So he is in. And then it's due I take who has.

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Charbonnet. Charbonnet has to deal with Kenneth Walker. Rashad Penny has to deal with the fact that he is Rashad Penny. And he has to deal with like Swift on the team. I am my own worst enemy. Yes. He really is. I don't have Charbonate. I haven't drafted him a single time. So let's do it. He took both the targets, both the targets. So that's funny because my cue, those were my top two targets. So all three of us were between. Pyrine and Charbonnet as the two players we wanted the most. Mike was on the clock twice, so he got both of them. Quentin Johnson, Michael Thomas go next. The Borgogan, you just had Deshaun Watson. Who's your next pick? You do need a tight end. Yeah, go ahead. I want to one of the running backs, but I know that Friar Muth will not make it back to me if I don't take him here. So I'm going to select him here. All right. So quarterback tied in back to back there and your team, you have freedom with the last two picks of the draft.

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I am back on the clock. And, you know, I took Darren Waller and Jackson Smith and Jigba with the last two picks. I think that there are some interesting names out there. But I'm going to go with a player maybe 50% because I like the value and 50% because I want to potentially make Jason Matt. You're getting T.J. Maxed right now. I don't think there's a play. There might be one player that could make me mad. Oh, what? You took A-Chane? I mean, that wasn't even in the realm of possibility because... You know where I like A-chan? I like him after E.T.N. Sanders and A. Acres when he's the fourth running back on a roster with the... I didn't know you were so uninterested in your ninth-round pick. So he was at the top of my cue. Of course he was. But he wasn't the player...

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that I was talking about because I just, I've never seen you draft him. Yeah, well, that was, you know, again. Yeah, his explosive ability, that offense, I think it, I think it could really, really work. I have two on my roster. I would love to get a 60-yard screen pass from him to the house. So, great picking. Do you want to announce the pick that happened after Devon A chain correctly? Yes, Giovante Williams. Oh, no. Jamal Williams has finally been drafted by Team 6. Producer Borland, you are on the clock. I am, and I'm going to fill my vacant quarterback slot with a guy throwing the ball to Justin Jefferson. Kurt Cousins, probably the, uh, did you see this documentary that just came out? The quarterback documentary is that where they follow the three guys with, uh, and I think Mario, it's Mario, Mahomes and cousins. But, look, we watch one of those things is not like the other. What is Mario do you doing in that? He was a starting quarterback last year. Yeah. They want, they want, and he's a top two pick.

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They wanted to see can this guy rebuild this team and rebuild his career? And we got to see it. It looks really interesting. I haven't seen it yet. But I mean, the trailer just seeing all the behind the scenes work that these guys do. I don't know. I'm looking forward to. But Kirk Cousins off the board. I'm not sure you couldn't have gotten him a round or two later. Yeah, but this is the... I get it. This is the make sure. Yeah, I see teams double up on quarterbacks and I didn't want to get stuck with Aaron Rogers. Jason, you were on the clock. Devon A-Chane's available. Oh, no, he's not. Mr. Packers, like I would never draft Aaron Rogers, the trainer. Too soon. So the player that I thought you could draft that would upset me was Rashad Penny. I did want a running back. I don't think there was there's a handful of running backs left out there that I.

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see a pathway towards having a great fantasy season. Rashad Penny, I do see a pathway for that. He's freaking awesome. I love it. I love the pick. Well, yeah. I mean, you usually end up with Rashad Penny in these draft. So I'll take him and allow the draft to continue to Brooks. Brooks, you're on the clock. I need a tight end and I'm glad that Chig is there grabbing Chig of Conquo. And then David Najok who goes next. So both very good upside names that would make the tight endless Mike disappointed. Brian Robinson goes at 912, coming into the 10th round, Anthony Richardson off the board, which probably would have been cousins. Probably would have been cousins. Cortland Sutton at 1002, probably the most ignored player in the history of fantasy this year. I haven't heard a whisper about him. You know, Tim Patrick coming back and Jerry Judy.

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Corlinson is still going to probably start. So, I mean, if you believe that there's upside in a new head coach, there's, it's not impossible that he's contributing. Brooks back on the clock. And here I'm going to take a late round shot on Zayflowers to go with Lamar Jackson. Jerk. You're a jerk and a dummy dumb face. And, uh, over Bateman. And then Bateman went next just because of the injury stuff he's going with. But I think that's fair. Oh man, that really stinks. I'm looking for upside. You know, this is my wide receiver four. I'm looking for someone that can really...

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propel themselves to a breakout. And most of the wide receivers that are available, you know, there's Jacoby Myers and Alan Lazard and players that are, look, they're going to. I think Myers is a little underrated too. I agree. Especially in that offense with Jimmy Garoppolo. And if I was really desperate for a starting wide receiver, I think, I think he's fine. But I'm looking for someone as my wide receiver four that has more explosive. potential than Jacoby Myers has. I'm looking for someone like a rookie that could do something special. I'm going to draft a guy much further down in ADP, but neither one of you two believe in. I do believe in, certainly not to the levels. Don't tell me what I believe. I will tell you what you've said you believe then. I'm going to take Rushie Rice, rookie wide receiver for... I stand corrected. Yes, thank you. You do know what I believe. For the Kansas City Chiefs, I think he's a talented player. He's had a lot of buzz.

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I just want the chance to either cut a guy or see that he's special. You'll get that chance. Yeah, one of those two. Al Borland, one more pick. Yeah, I think this is a bit of a reach. I'm not sure what his ADP is, but I want him. So I'm going to take Romeo Doves. Robb's off the board. I would have taken him on the turn. It's impossible to reach at your second and the last pick. That's not a reach. The 10th round throw ADP out. Go get the guys you want. Scroll down. Find your big explosive belief and then draft them. Yeah. And I'm really thrilled for Jason taking Rishi Rice because I get to take Sky Moore with the 1008. And then Elijah Moore, Dalton Kincaid and Jamison Williams off the board.

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Mike, your final two picks. That is Jamal Williams. Jamison Williams. Did I say Jamal? No. Oh, okay. You just keep this. It's a really good bit. It's because they're Jay Williams. The people were like, say it. So I did. Mike, close it out. You got to get a tight end. All right. So I am back to full balance. There's balance within the force. So I'm going to take a tight end. And then I'm trying to figure out which position do I want to take the shot on. I guess, look, I'll go with the tight end two for the Denver Broncos. So I'll take Greg Dulcich, just take some upside there. And then the, man, it's tough here with the last pick. There's a few names I want to call out. Kendra Miller, I don't think we've mentioned him enough, but a third round selection by the Norland Saints who, which Kendra Miller, in my opinion.

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could have been drafted higher had he not been dealing with an injury in the draft process. But he got drafted by the Saints. And Alvin Camara's situation, we don't know. And Alvin Camara, the player, I mean, it looked like there was significant decline last year. Jamal Williams, they brought him in. But I think that by the end of the year, there is a path that Kendra Miller could end up being the running back that you actually want from that team. So I really wanted to highlight him. And then I'm going to take who I project to be the starting running back for the Miami Dolphins. I will take Jeff Wilson. All right, Aaron Rogers and Gino Smith go after Jeff Wilson. Kyle, final pick. Kendrae Miller off the board. So Kyle, did I talk you into him? I had him queued way before. Okay. Yeah, he was going to be my pick as well. Kendra Miller is a really good late round sleeper. I'm going to go back to back chiefs. Two.

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two shots with my final two picks on the league's best offense. Jared McKinnett is the pick. If McKinnett had gone off the board, my pick would have been Kyler Murray. I have him cute. It would have been a shot at some. Wow. As a gamble at a top five quarterback at that point and as a trade leverage pick with the last pick. Well, that, that. That's what it would have to be for you. For you, it would have been a possible starter. Exactly. You've got Josh Allen. I don't usually draft players to trade, but, you know, Tua might not be good. And Kyler could be their week one. So he is in consideration for me. All right, Al Borland. Rahim Moster, so we've seen all three of them got drafted this time. Jason, your final pick? My final pick, I'm going to actually, yeah, I'm going to take Kyler. Everything we just said to Tua.

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Maybe he's great. Maybe he's not. Kyler could be ready week one. I'll take that pair of corebacks. That was my idea, not yours. You didn't have that idea. It's mine. No, it was Mike's. Mike, Mike. You can do my idea. What did I do? Just say thank you. Thanks, everybody. You're welcome. All right, Brooks. Final pick of our group here. Damien Harris went off the board at 1109. I like that. Worth a shot. Who's your final selection? I'll take Jalen Warren here. All right, Jalen Warren off the board, and that is going to do it. Woo! How do you feel about your teams? Give me, I'll read your team, and then you give me a couple of words. This will give you time to think, producers, on how you feel about it. The Borgogan has Jamar Chase, Garrett Wilson, Terry McLaurin, Mike Evans, and Elijah Moore at wide receiver, Najee, Dobbins, Montgomery, and Kendra Miller.

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at running back with Watson and Firemuth at the onesie positions. Kyle, how would you rate your draft? I'd say balanced and then I have those two young guns that I can win a week with. How would you grade your draft? Good, good, good question. I'll put in the analyzer, but I'll say a minus. Okay. All right. Very self-assured. How would you grade at his draft? B-plus. Very good draft. Very good team. Let go C++. Very possible you could have running back question marks if they don't deliver on promise. But I mean... You got a strong three to start with before you get the waiver wire. Okay. That's your opinion. Dobbins is going to be great. Okay. That's your opinion. All right. We're going to producer Borland who has Echler, Henry, Gibson, Dylan, mostered at running back. Waddle, Keenan,

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Hollywood and Dobbs at wide receiver with Goddard and Cousins. How do you feel about your team, Al? I would say pleasantly surprised. Okay. I was not happy to draw the seventh spot, but I think drafting from there, I'm really happy with the team I got. And you would grade your team A. B plus. You should send a edible arrangement to Team 6 over there going with Johnny Taylor. Super strong start. Yeah, very strong start. So about a C plus. All right. And then Brooks, you have Nick Chubb, Joe Mix, and Alexander Madison, Kalil Herbert, and Jalen Warren at running back. A.J. Brown, and then a little bit of a wait before you built the city with Michael Pittman, stole Johan Dotson and added Zayflowers at a value in the 10th round. Chigua, got to love it. And then Lamar Jackson in the fourth. How about you? How do you feel about your squad? Yeah, I really dig that with taking the quarterback pretty early. I usually don't.

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do that. So, but I think Pittman and Dotson in the 6th and 7 saved my wide receiver 2 position. And I'm guessing about a B plus. Yeah, B plus. And Jason? A bit of a C plus. All right. All right. We are down to our three teams. Mike has McCaffrey, Stevenson, and a long wait before grabbing P. Ryan, Charbonne, and Wilson. Pretty good job grabbing some relevant running backs that late after you had those first two. Alave, Mike Williams, Chris Godwin, Deante Johnson at wide receiver with Herbert and Dulcich. You know, being at the turn, you had to kind of take Herbert and Williams maybe a little ahead of ADP. Didn't have a choice. You weren't going to get them if you didn't. So how do you feel about your squad? I feel risky. I think that it comes down to is Justin Herbert, does he bounce back to being a top five type of a quarterback? If he doesn't.

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then I will be scrambling because, you know, Mike Williams would also suffer a little bit as well. Yeah, there's a world where Lawrence and Watson and Tua outperform Herbert if it doesn't go right. Yes, it's possible. And then that's an overinvestment, but probably about a B plus on your... Yeah, I'll give myself about a B. Jason has Bijon and Jacobs to go with Connor and Rashad Piny, Devante Smith, D.K. Metcalfe, Trailing Berks, and Rashi Rice. And then Kyle Pitts, Tua and Kyler. Any final thoughts? No, I think the top is really secure and safe, and then the back end is very risky. Oh, secure the top. Yeah, I mean, I view, I actually like Mike's team quite a bit. I like my team quite a bit, and I think we're similar in the sense that I think that the, you know, the first five or six players are really locked in solid, solid options. All right. Final team here. I have Tyreek Hill.

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Brandon Ayyuk, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, and Skymoor at Wide Receiver. And then I have E.N. Sanders, Cam Acres, Devon A. Chan and Jared McKinnon at Running Back, Josh Allen and Darren, as my onesies. I can feel the thinness of the wide receiver room that comes from spinning two top seven picks on Allen and Waller, but certainly have the star power on this roster. And hopefully, Miles Sanders or Acres, doesn't have to be both with this roster. can emerge as a big-time talent. I'm in the middle on this squad. I don't know if you guys have thoughts on it before we close out, but fairly happy win a different route with Allen in the second. Yeah, you always pay a price. You always feel it. You always feel it. It comes down to is Josh Allen, like those three quarterbacks, will they be that much better than the rest of the pack of the quarterback? Historically, the trend says that they won't, but those are special players who,

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Certainly could. And they have, those specific names have for a couple of years. Yeah, it is, it is really hard to see them not repeating what they did last year. And I'm not saying that it's very easy to like historically say it won't happen. It's just difficult like emotionally like to think you just always presume whatever happened last year is going to happen again. And that's something you got to be a little careful of. Yeah, I mean, last year I took the shot on Herbert in our league of record, and it was a bad shot. And it cost me the season in a lot of ways because he had a disappointing year, despite throwing for that many yards and that many attempts. And it didn't hurt making the gamble. So when you take those shots on, I mean, there's a lot of gamble quarterback names. I mean, Lawrence, Jackson, Fields, Herbert, Watson, Tua. All those guys are like, maybe, maybe they're, maybe it's a top five year.

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But they can't all be that. They can't all do it. I mean, there's going to be a hierarchy there. So, all right, we did it. We got through. You got a little extended edition of the fantasy footballers here on Saturday. Hopefully you enjoyed the draft. We'd love to hear your thoughts, whether on Twitter at the FF ballers or in the comments on YouTube. And we'll be back with more episodes of the show, getting into the divisional breakdowns next week. Check out the ultimate draft kit at ultimate draft kit.com. Farewell. Enjoy the weekend, everybody. Goodbye. you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast join our fantasy football community on join the foot dot com and follow us on twitter at the ffballers