Mock Draft Show + The DUCERS! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 7/8

Joe Burrow at 402. We talked about his ADP on the Thursday show being 311 right now. Yeah, man, it's, it's pretty rich. So 402 is more reasonable of a selection. Brooks, back on the clock. I wasn't planning on this, but we're going to add. Brooks's picks are my favorite. Lamar Jackson in the 4.3. Oh, he wasn't getting past me. That was my plan. I had two players I wanted. Thankfully. One of them still came back to me. It should be pretty obvious. This is D.K. Metcalfe. I was between D.K. Metcalf and DeVantzmane, but I wanted either Metcalfe or Lamar Jackson in the fourth. I'm sorry, the fourth round. You can take Lamar Jackson in the fourth. He's the only guy that I see that can be in that tier of the Hertz, Alan Mahomes. And they're going in the second right now. So I like the value there. Lamar Jackson, Jemir Gibbs went.

And then Jason went with D.K. McCaff. Producer Borland didn't break into the show. So I don't know how excited he could be with this pick, but he needs to add to Echler, Henry, and Waddle. Yeah, nothing real exciting here, but I am going to take Keenan Allen and make sure he stays away from Kyle's team. Yeah, I mean, that's always advisable unless his dependency on Keenan Allen is his very undoing, which has been the case in recent years. Justin Fields at 407. That was. The bigger reason I was upset about Lamar going is I knew that Fields would not make it to me then. So right now, how many of us have a quarterback? Just two of us, Brooks and myself in terms of the six of us? Six total quarterbacks taken, but two of us. Okay. Justin Fields off the board at 407. As someone with a quarterback, very happy to see three go in the fourth round. Coming back to the...

To my roster, Tyreek Hill, Josh Allen, Travis E.T.N. I'm looking at the running back room. And it's between a few names. J.K. Dobbins on that Baltimore offense that Jason thinks I hate. Miles Sanders. Oh, that's just what your words were. No, it was not my words. Your words were, don't draft the Baltimore Raven. They suck. They're going to be the worst team in the division. That's just how I remember it. That's like a paraphrase. We can check the tape, but I mean, it was something pretty close to that. Something like that. Miles Sanders is in strong consideration there too. And I think when you look at those two players, a bet on Dobbins is a bet on the offense and the team and then being a huge success there in Baltimore. Talked about their win total yesterday at nine and a half. Tough division. Doesn't catch passes.

So I'm actually going to go with the probably less popular for the listening audience pick, but the player that I think will be more fantasy productive in Miles Sanders. I'm a big fan of what his opportunity is. I've been very optimistic about the reports on Bryce Young of late. I don't know if you guys have been following that, but his progression is significant in the opportunities he's had to practice. I think that this team is going to surprise. It's the opposite of the division that J.K. Dobbins and the Ravens play in. So I think it's a wide open division with Carolina, New Orleans, Atlanta, and Tampa. So I think Miles Sanders and the Panthers may surprise, and that's where I'm going to go there, getting my two running backs back to back. The Borgogne back on the clock. By the way, was the Miles Sanders pick a surprise? I don't think it was a huge surprise to me. I see a pathway for Miles Sanders.

to easily be, you know, a top 15 running back. And if touchdowns come his way, that's the real question. Because I think the passing volume and the volume on the ground will be there for him. He should absolutely be a top, you know, 20 running back for sure. If touchdowns happen and the offense is better, then he could be a top eight running back. Kyle, you were about to say something. You went with J.K. Dobbins. J.K.2.L. Sanders and Dobbins. Those are the last two kind of in our tiers. So I was going to take whoever was left over. Are you happy I didn't take Dobbins or indifferent? I mean, I love the Ravens this year. Todd Monkin for life. Yeah. Yeah. The Todd Monkin thing is it's such an interesting deep dive, really, because his teams in Tampa where he was responsible for play calling were not winning teams. But he.

Passed it. He passed it a lot. And then, I mean, you guys got to remember that the last time he was in the NFL, he was with the most hyped and most disappointing team that we've had in probably five or six years, which was everybody was on board, the Cleveland Browns and Baker and Landry and Beckham and that high-flying offense in 2019. And that was where Todd Monkin was the offensive coordinator, mind you. Freddie Kitchens was calling plays. But his influence was on that roster, and they were, again, a losing team. He's not been on a lot of winning teams. He's just been an offensive influence that drives the passing game forward in terms of total volume. I did not pick them to win the division because of Todd Monk, and I picked them to win my fantasy heart. Yeah, I mean. I think they're going to have a lot more turnovers this year. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting because obviously, I don't know how much you want to hold him responsible for Cleveland, but that was the.

Your bold prediction show was the demise of the most hyped fantasy Browns that year, which is what happened. I mean, these were all players, high draft capital players in Cleveland. They were disasters. But it's going to be a fun ride. I do not hate the Ravens. I believe that the Ravens are going to be in the thick of it in that division. John Harbaugh is a great coach. Lamar Jackson's a great quarterback. I simply am the only person willing to say that it's not a guarantee. that they're going to dominate. Yeah, Al, we're going to need you to cut that clip out and take the word not out. I really want that sound bite and put it on my board so I can have Andy say, I do hate the Ravens whatever I want. Well, Kyle and Betts, I think mostly on the basis of the amount of bets that they've placed so far were very oppositional to my thoughts on Baltimore. After Dobbins went DeAndre Hopkins.

who's just kind of sitting in the ether right now as a nothing, but deserves like his pace last year was 1,400-yard pace. So if he lands in the right spot, this is a relevant player. Is there a right spot though? Yeah, there is definitely a right spot. That would be the dark horse candidate that I would not rule out yet the Kansas City Chiefs. I think that they are still in play. And if he were to go there with kind of a wide open depth chart, his talent, Mahomes, I think he would. absolutely be a fantasy dominator. I don't think he's, I think Tennessee is an option for him too. I mean, this was an offense where if he's, I mean, he would usurp Trelinbergs instantaneously. Yes, I agree with that. And that offense runs, it's predicated on that like first read play action pass. Like we saw E. Brown dominate there. Like I don't think that's out of.

Out of question. Even with the Patriots, you might not believe in Mack Jones, but he would be the one there. Like Jacobi Myers was relevant. Right now I took him in an underdog draft where he was the wide receiver. Relevance is not a fourth round pick. Yeah, he was the wide receiver 24 taken. I don't know where he is on this one. Let me qualify. I don't know which wide receiver number he is right now, but I mean, I can't see him finishing the season lower than a wide receiver 24. T.J. Hawkinson, Mike, unfortunately, went off the board right ahead of you. Oh, Drats. You have two picks again. McCaffrey, Stephenson and Olavay. And this is where, like, when you're drafting on the edge, you, I mean, you know, I'm in the turn, not living on the edge. I guess I'll be living on the edge a little bit with this. You have to make some leaps here because you've got to wait. Yes. What, 22 picks before you get the pick again? Exactly. And to me, the top 80p, at least guys, we're in a,

We're in a much larger bucket, and I want to take a shot here on a difference-making duo. It's just what order, whatever, I'm going to respect the order here. So I'm going to take Justin Herbert and then a wide receiver who, we aren't talking about him a lot because he's so hot and cold, and yet he still is in, he's my wide receiver 16. He's in my top 20 right now. I'm going to take the stack. I'm going to take Michael Williams. I was, I had a little bit of dreams that Keenan Allen would fall for that stack, but Justin Herbert and Mike Williams, I'll take it. Interesting. Justin Herbert, Mike Williams, and then Drake London and Calvin Ridley go off the board. So a run of three wide receivers before the board Gogan can draft his next Raven. Who are you thinking about? I'm going to take Jason's favorite player. Oh, Terry McLaren. All right. Terry McLaren.

So that means Kyle's team is Jamar Chase, Garrett Wilson, Terry McLaren. I certainly like McLaren when he fits in as a wide receiver three on a roster. That's great. I had the dream of him getting to me and having the Devontas Smith, D.K. Metcalfe, Terry McLaren combination. So I'm back on the clock. Tyree, Kyle, Josh, Allen, Travis, ETN, Miles Sanders. Four wide receivers off the board at the top of this round. There are names that I'm interested in at wide receiver. I just, it's tough because I have a long wait after this pick. I like Brandon Ayuk. I like Hollywood. I shouldn't say more names out loud like that. You hate you, but you must. But I think I like the potential of a couple of running backs a little bit more. So I'm going to actually go, I guess, mid-round high tea. I'm going to take Cam Acres here in the fifth round. No.

and put E.T.N. Sanders and Acres on the team. I always want depth that running back. He was supposed to get to me. Sorry. Yeah. Well, I don't think you are. If I'm being honest, I don't believe that you are sorry. He really just said words. I think that was a hollow apology. There was no, you know, there was no emotion or feeling in that. If you're really sorry, you'll trade him to me. Yeah, well, four. Just straight up. For nothing, you just trade him to me. All right. I went with Cam Acres, so three running backs in a row. We've got Christian Watson at 506, and then the Borgogan is not on the clock. It's producer Borland. It is, and I was considering Christian Watson there. Of course you were. It was finally time for your packet. It was. I was trying to get one on my team, but I couldn't do that. So I am going to take Marquis, Hollywood Brown. So three wide outs in a row for Al, and Jason's back on the clock.

Yeah, this is a little bit unfortunate. Is this your first, you're squirming for the first time? This is the first time I'm squirming. Yeah, no, honestly, I haven't really liked the seven, eight spot in drafts, but Owls team and my own, the first four rounds, I feel like fell really nicely for us. What I find funny about your team, which is great, Robinson Jacobs, Devante Smith and Metcalfe is that I would reverse both of your positions. Like I'd rather draft Jacobs over. Bejohn, and I'd rather draft Matt Kaff over Devante Smith, and yet you got them both with the reverse order. Well, when you are at the 108 or 109, the order in which you pick guys really does matter. Sometimes you want to play the ADP game a little bit more knowing like, well, I might like that player better, but he's lower in the default system ranking. So I'm going to take the guy that's, you know, higher ADP-wise and hopefully get both players that's happened a couple times. I'm looking at...

two players that I want. And I'm going to play that game right now. I'm going to take the one that has the higher ADP because hopefully I get the other player, which I will not name because Brooks. I was hoping to make you into that. But I'm going to. Brooks, cover your ears and then tell us, Jason. I'm going to actually, since I didn't get one of the quarterbacks that I like, to me it's the top three and then Lamar Jackson and then Justin Herbert. I want one of them. I didn't get one. So I'm, I'm punting. Fields is not in that.

group for you? He's not for where he's drafted. Absolutely, I would like fields in general. But, you know, as far as the value, I think the value of Herbert usually in the fifth, Lamar in the fourth, I like those guys. I'm going to take the gamble that I've taken a couple times this off season. I'm grabbing Kyle Pitts at tight end. I'm going to still go onesie, but I'm looking for a difference maker. Spicy. Spicy pick. Kyle Pitts and George Kittle back to back. So at least in that sense, you're at the front of the fifth round tight end selections. Brooks, were you thinking about either of those guys? I know you're a George Kittle fan. I am a fan, but with already taken Lamar Jackson, I didn't want to grab a tight end this early. And the player I was hoping fell fell to me. I'm taking a chance on.

Mike's guy, Alexander Madison here in the fifth. Very nice. Chub, Mix, and Madison, your three running backs. You're going to enjoy that. AJ Browns, Lamar, Lamar Jackson. After Madison was Pierce, Trevor Lawrence, DJ Moore, and Tyler Lockett. Lawrence was somebody that I would have had my eyes on Jason. Like, he'll tell you who's going to punt the position. But then if Lawrence fell back to him in the six, he'd be, it's possible. He'd be back in. But Lockett's off the board. I don't know if the groans from. from you two, but I enjoyed that Jason had Metcalfe so he couldn't take Lockett. You know, probably felt like you could. No, it did feel like that. Actually, the two players I wanted was Pitts and Lockett. And then after I took Pitts, I remembered. I was like, well, I should find another player to. Oh, Lockett was the guy. But happy he's taken. All right, Brooks, one more pick. All right, guys, with just A.J. Brown at Wide Out so far, I definitely think I need to go wide out here. There's a few guys I like.

But there's one that's standing out. I'm going back, guys. Oh, wait. Where are you going back? You're going to the city? Oh, there's the Brooks one. Oh, yeah. Wait a minute. When was that made? How in the world would you have? This morning. Oh, you made it this morning, but you didn't know you were going to draft him? I maybe did a couple of mocks and had an idea. Oh, you were prepped. What? Honestly, that is... And there's pizzas flying around? Oh, yeah. On YouTube, that was outstanding. I am so impressed. What is happening? Because I feel like that says everything about why mock drafting matters. Because he ran mocks this morning, knowing we were going to... He ran the calculations. He knew we were going to do this draft, and he knew that Michael Pittman might be sitting there enough to build an animation. And it came true. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

How many animations do you have right now? He's like, well, I built 27 possibilities. For different players? Wow. So Michael Pittman, as a wide receiver, too, how does that, you're nodding. You feel, I mean, you built the city. I feel good enough about it. Okay. Yeah, okay. It's a great player. Well, Jason's back on the clock after Pittman went Jerry Judy. So we've got, you know, a lot of wideouts have gone in the fifth and sixth round. We're up to 10 in that stretch. Jason just went with a onesie in Kyle Pitts, two running backs, two wide receivers. Yeah, considering that I've got Bejohn and Josh Jacobs, I feel more confident there. I would prefer to go wide receiver. However, when I look at the players available and the tiers that are left, there are several wide receivers that I see as really good quality wide receivers that are all in about the same tier that might make it back to me. Now, this is my long term. I'm not going to assume any of them do.

But I will play the gamble on the wrist because at running back, there's one running back that I see as significantly better. Health will be an issue. I don't think the fact that the team is putrid will be. He was unbelievable down the stretch last year for a putrid Arizona Cardinals. And that's James Connor. He's going to be the guy. You look at the depth chart. There's just no one else there. He catches passes. He gets the goal line work. He'll volume his way when he's on the field to being. very fantasy relevant. I think you would have been a perfectly fine pick where I took Cam Acres. So for you to get him almost a full round later, I think is a value. You have such guaranteed production at wide receiver that I don't think you felt like you had to go there. So James Connor, you know, like what you said, you know, we've had a few mocks. We're drafting from seven or eight. And it feels like constant sniping, constantly not in the position you want to be. Right now the seven and eight look pregnant.

Pretty nice. And producer Borland, certainly capable of screwing that up at this point. You're on the clock. Yeah, and I'm a little tilted because I was going James Connor there. Oh, back to back, Hollywood and Connor on that Cardinal office. All the Arizona. Yeah, but I am going to take Dallas Goddard. All right, Dallas Goddard, the first potential tilt pick of the draft. I love Dallas Goddard. I think he has tremendous potential. I'm also really excited about what has occurred because I was strongly considering a player that I think I view in the lens that, you know, Mike has high expectations for Ramandre Stevenson and Chris Oliva this year. We certainly agree on Olave. But I almost took Brandon Ayyuk with my last pick in the fifth round. I believe he will be the wide receiver one for the NFL's top.

two three team in the 49ers. And so I get the opportunity to have waited, get Cammakers, and come back with Brandon Ayuk at 608, which I feel very good about. Was the two and the three, did you throw them both out? Because if Trey Lance is a quarterback, they're at two, and then if Purdy's there, they're three? I don't think that was my thinking. Okay, I'm just trying to read between the lines. I'm trying to get like a psychiatrist in here and try to figure that out. But historically speaking, I have not considered Trey Lance very much. Neither of the 49ers. That's a good one. There you. Yeah, yeah. So I went with IEuk to go with Tyreek Hill, Allen, E.T. and Sanders and Acres. And then the Borgogne snuck in with his pick, which I'm going to bring something up with the selection he made. He went with David Montgomery at 609. So this is an opportunity for me to tell you about essentially a trade that I got today in Dynasty.

You received but have not accepted or rejected? I did reject. Oh. So I'm sorry to break that suspense. Wait, no, no, no. I haven't done it anymore. Okay, let me, let's hear it. But I was offered Ayyuk and David Montgomery for Josh Jacobs in Dynasty, which I... Knowing you, I'm surprised you didn't take it. I declined that trait. Interesting. Because I have Josh Jacobs locked in as that top three guy. But I could live to regret it. If there's problems with the holdout or Brandon Ayuk has the year that I'm hoping for. I did turn it down. But Montgomery goes at 609. And then ironic run of running backs. Those three guys together have been very involved. David Montgomery, then D'Andre Swift, then Jamal Williams, all these guys that are kind of taking each other's jobs. That would be Giovante. Oh, that was Giovante. That was J. Williams. Never mind. It was J. Williams. You had lions on your mind because Montgomery, you know, a lion. And Swift. Formerly. Was a line. Yeah.

and Jamal was. But this was Giovante. Giovante at 6-11. I'm terrified to draft him in any draft, but Mike, you're back on the clock, two picks. I am. Have the Herbert Williams stack. My team is very balanced, two running backs, two wide receivers, and I took the quarterback. I am feeling the sting of the quarterback right now because there's not players that, there's not players that I love, but I'm going to take, I mean, He's just, I think he's still good. Maybe he is declining and his quarterback play is not going to be the best. But Chris Godwin is one of a few wide receivers left who should see, I don't know, a good 23 to 25% minimum of the target share for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And then for the next pick, the players who I'm looking at the bounce back season for Deonti Johnson calling the shot on the breakout.

for Traylon Burks. Jahan Dotson is also in consideration for me. And I'm looking at the running backs. Maybe I should not have picked so quickly because the top running back I'd be interested in would have been Rashad White. I don't really want to go back to back Tampa Bay Buccaneers here. So maybe I don't like the Chris Godwin pick as much. Interesting. Because that has removed Rashad White from. You would take Rashad White over Antonio Gibson? I would, yes. Yeah, I mean, some Rashad White discussions and buzz going on right now. And, yeah. Jason doesn't buy it. I don't, I don't overly love Rashad White, but maybe you just, maybe the team was just so bad you throw it in the garbage because Leonard Fournett was terrible. The offensive line was very, very beat up. Do we just give them a pass on that? And then Rashad White ends up being a great pick this year. But I'll, I'll speed it up here. I will take.

I'm going to take the sure volume of Deontay Johnson. All right. Then DAC went next. Rashad White went at number three. Jason pounded the table. I think that was a Deontay pounding the table. Yeah, he had the dreams of Deontay. And then Kyle, you were on the clock just to run your team back. Jamar Chase, Garrett Wilson, McLaren at wide receiver. You went Najee, J.K. Dobbins, and then Montgomery in the last round. There are some pretty big names out there right now. Who are you going with? I'm going to go with Mike Evans. He's kind of the last wide receiver one that I view here as like he's locked in for his team. Yeah, that would have been my selection. So I'd said nice things about your team thinking that would like maybe. Maybe it'd screw it up. Maybe he'd screw the pickup. I'm back on the clock. It's between two players for me. It's Darren Waller tied in for the New York Giants who I think is going. I am very much rising on his potential this year.

And the other option would be a guy I really loving Jahan Dotson, but I'm not going to kind of, I don't think I'm going to force the issue here with Jehan Dotson. I'm going to take Darren Waller for the first time this off season. All right. Christian, no reaction to Darren Waller whatsoever, which are six people here. I'm going to just keep talking. I was mid-swallow. I could not react. I think it's a strong. Yeah, there we go. It's another option. I'm with you that he should. B. I think it carries a lot of risk going here in the seventh with the other players you could have picked, but he could certainly regain form and be a top five guy. Producer Barley. I am looking at quarterback and not. Really? Not sold on anybody there. So I'm going to move on and I'm going to take Antonio Gibson. Could have built the stack with Jalen Waddle, gone to a in the seventh round. Antonio Gibson.

We'll see what it's like in Washington. Looking at the draft board, Jason does not have a quarterback, but then 9 through 12, they do. So not likely that Tua gets taken between his next pick. That was definitely something that I was looking at. When I look at the quarterback position, Tua is the last guy that I really. like. I would be happy to leave the draft with Tua. I'm out on... Should be happy to leave it with Watson. I'm out on Voldemort. I get that. Like if you want to be in on Deshaun Watson, he could have an unbelievable season. Easily could be a better pick than Tua. I just, that's just not how... I mean, Deshaun Watson's a projection and I project it going poorly. So...

Two is the player I want. I am going to play the ADP game and assume that in the seventh round. I was wrong, Jeremy. I'm sorry. And assume that in the seventh round, a team is not going to double up on quarterback that early. So I'm going to look at wide receiver. I've only got Devonzi Smith and D.K. Metcalfe on my team. I played that gamble last time and took James Connor. It worked out well because I had about four wide receivers I wanted. Deontay Johnson was the only one that went. Jordan Addison, Traylon Burks, and Jahan Dotson, still available. I'm going to go by my rankings, and I'm going to take Traylon Burks, who I think is going to have a phenomenal season so long as DeAndre Hopkins doesn't show up. His offseason camp reports have been great, showed up in shape, is playing faster, and I think he's super talented.

Pickens off the board, Brooks, you are back on the clock. I don't know if you have graphics prepared for this pick, but who are you taking? No, I don't, but I'm very happy that Dotson fell to this spot. That's my pick. All right, John Dotson, Dotson, stealing him from me. I had graphics prepared, thanks. Alvin Camara, James Cook, off the board at 712. That could be a steal. Brandon Cook, so the cook and the cooks both going to Team 12. Isaiah Pacheco? off the board at 802 and then Brooks is back on. You get to do the team name. Yeah, that's true. Too many cooks in the kitchen. Yeah, that's worth it. I mean, if you get Dalvin in there, wow, that would be too many cooks in the kitchen, though. All right, Brooksie. This one's definitely a reach, but Kyle knows I love this guy. And if he hits, I'm going to be upset if he's on a different roster. I'm drafting Khalil Herbert here. Yeah, he was at the top of my cue.

That is definitely a Brooks. That is a Brooks pick. I mean, there are. Because Brooks knows running backs. I will say this. Madison, what is going on here? With Kalil Herbert. Madison, Pittman, Herbert. When Kalil Herbert's name comes up, I just associate him with Brooks. That's my viewpoint. So here I am. Tua did get back to me. The fact that Jordan Addison was drafted right before me by Team 9 makes this easy because had Addison gotten back, I might have punted quarterback further gone with a lower tier guy and for the chance at the breakout because I do think Addison is super talented and his situation is delightful. But I will take Tua. So now I've got my quarterback and tight end out of the way. I've got three.