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Week 8 Waivers + Shoot Your Shot, Full Stream Ahead - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/27
Week 8 Waivers + Shoot Your Shot, Full Stream Ahead - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/27
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126 passagesA new segment. Every Thursday, we're going to be picking our up to 100 players of the week. And now we review, fellas. The results are in. And Andy torched the earth. Andy went with Tom Brady, who took it to one million? Yeah. Not just 100. Tom Brady. Did Tom Brady end up as the number one QB on the week? That I'm not certain. I believe that was Justin Herbert. But it was very, very close. I'll let you know.
A small gap between them. QB3. Man, what a week. Five touchdowns in QB3. That's an insane week. Jason went with Matt Stafford. He was on the, he was on the, he was on the line. He was fine, but I would not say he took it up to 100. We were expecting big things. Thankfully, he got the touchdown at the end, over 300 yards. That last drive was 100. Oh, yes. The last drive was 100 and won the game. And I went with the flyer of Marquis Valde Scantling for the Green Bay Packers. He took it to one.
one reception oh did he actually get one i don't know he one carry i believe okay all right you were not you're like no i am wrong but tom brady with tom brady mark west my man what are you doing over there he is as good as david montgomery oh so
We're going to go through it again. Take your hair up to 100 with head and shoulders available at Walmart. Pick yours up today and check out this Thursday's episode to hear our up to 100 picks of the week where I will redeem myself from Mark Wesval, this Scanling. All right, running back waivers. This is really where the shoot-your-shot comes into play because of the injury situations. Now,
Above all other players, we need to say if Chase Edmonds is available in your league. Yes. Let me ask a question related to Chase though. You need to pick him up. Now, he's going into the buy, but he is going to be the Belcow in Arizona for multiple weeks. And Miami, Buffalo, Seattle. I mean, you've seen people run against Buffalo? It's a delight. It's a treat. And then, you know, Miami, Seattle, not exactly trouble. So this is a...
a chance to make the playoffs in your league if you can get Chase Edmonds. He can catch the football. He had five carries for 58 yards in this past game. We've been waiting for Arizona to entrust Chase Edmonds with the opportunity. Now, would you drop Kenyon Drake to pick up Chase Edmonds? I certainly would. I would. Like we said, they're saying there is a slight ligament tear in his ankle, miss a few weeks.
With a few weeks of Chase Edmonds, I'm not sure that Kenny Drake gets his job back. Yeah, you might see more of a 50-50 when it comes back, and that's not a guarantee. But what is a guarantee is you have a few weeks of a superstar who has been performing great. 50-50 with Edmonds would be every week start for Edmonds rest of season because of the receptions. Yeah, Edmonds has been great. You have to pick him up. And if you had to drop Drake, I would as well. But don't hear what we're not saying. I don't.
I'm not encouraging people to drop Kenyon Drake. I would still, I would have both of them on the team because when he comes back, I mean, you can make all the coaching fallacy issues and arguments of, they should have given Chase Edmonds more carries before. Kenyon Drake could come back and just 100% be the guy that he was beforehand and Chase go back to that role. So be prepared. But Chase Edmonds must be picked up if he's available. Would you drop Derek McKinnon right now?
Oh, certainly not. No, I get it. He was rested. We're back, baby. Well, we are. How could you drop? If Derek McKinnon were on waivers, he needs to be included as a possible pickup, obviously he was. Can't we want to not go through it? Sure. This is the third time to try. No, well, but the first time was actually really, really great. You had two back-to-back games of Jerich McKinnon being incredible for fantasy purposes. Whoever plays for San Francisco is going to be great.
Jeff Wilson was great. He is now on the IR. Mostert is still hurt. Tevin Coleman, he's on the IR. Is he coming back this week? We just don't know. Got to shoot the shot. Right now, it looks like the only healthy guys on the team are Jerich McKinnon and Jamichael Hastie. It was a kick in the face from Shanahan.
to see Jerich McKinnon not on the field and then afterwards say, well, the plan all along was we were going to rest Jerich McKinn. So he's at least giving an acknowledgement that Jerich McKinn didn't play and people were curious why he didn't play. I mean, you buy that? I don't buy that at all. Not even one little bit. When you lose Mostert, when you've lost other players in the game, when you lose Jeff Wilson in the middle of the game, what are you holding him for?
I mean, this is a lack of confidence in Derek McKinna that's been manifested in multiple games. It might be that. And, you know, that's my concern. Are you shooting your shot on hasty? Absolutely would shoot my shot on hasty. But the problem, to me, it's hasty, Kevin Coleman. Is there a chance Coleman gets a surprise call up? Because last week it was, he's a long shot to play. Now it's, do you, how much do you invest in hasty? Sure. To get disappointed later. I mean.
People invested in Hasty a lot this last week and then got Jeff Wilson. So now it's like, okay, we can invest again in Hasty and get T Evan Coleman. Which is when you say shoot your shot, what are you doing there? I mean, Hasty is the highest upside opportunity here because of what this offense does. Jeff Wilson is not a world beater. He scored three times. He was one of the top running backs on the week. I'm willing to spend a decent amount of FAB on Hasty for the shot at having an elite talent for a week or two.
So here's the situation. You have Coleman, who might be healthy, might not, was a long shot. We don't have an update that is reliable enough as waivers are going through to know if he'll be there or not. Hasty, who has looked great, not been used when other guys are healthy. It's only in relief of other injured starters. And you have McKinnon who has been there.
was good in the beginning of the year, has not been utilized, and they have not trusted with the ball or snaps the last couple of weeks. So you have to decide who you're shooting your shot on. I would personally order mine as Hasty McKinnon Coleman. That's how I'd put my waiver order in and fab spend. But I'm not going to personally spend up a lot because...
of the nebulous situation. But what I do know is whoever it is will be great. That's the problem. If you want to call your shot and say it is going to be a hasty week and you want to spend up to get him because you're going to need to. Here's the thing that needs to be teased out though. Let's say there's no Coleman. Hasty is being, he's involved no matter what. There's a chance McKinnon isn't. Sure.
There's not the inverse. You're saying like, there's not a chance that McKinning gets all the workload a week after not getting any snaps and Hastie's off the field when Wellston left the field and hasty got all the snaps. Kyle Shanahan has told me that there's always a chance. I don't think so. I mean, he's, he has, you know, he'll do whatever you don't expect. The reason I'm not investing on McKinnon is I would have zero confidence to play him in any situation this week. So why spend any fab if I don't want to play the player? Sure. I would play him if we knew that Kevin Coleman.
was missing. And I'm not saying I would play him over hasty, but I would, I think both guys could have great weeks, just like when Moster and McKinnon were both having great weeks at the beginning of the season. This offense can't support that. All right. Let's talk about the Seattle backfield. Same thing. Now, one of the things, the situations stink, right? Because you don't have clarity, but there is one silver lining. And that is because of COVID, I mean,
silver lining of COVID protocols, right? But these teams don't have time to bring in more backs and get them through protocol to mess up these nebulous situations. So if you have Chris Carson injured, Carlos Hyde injured, Travis Homer injured, guess who's left? Wide receivers. DJ Dallas, actually. Sure. Yeah, DJ Dallas is the pickup in Seattle. If you want to shoot your shot on somebody that maybe a lot of your league doesn't know, maybe you just heard the name for the first time, he's a rookie.
and he can catch the football. So I would be shooting my shot on DJ Dallas. I have him well ahead of somebody like McKinnon because you have an opportunity this week to just roll him out there and see what you got. The problem that I have with DJ Dallas is that I believe he will only be used if everybody else is gone. For instance, if Carlos Hyde, you know, who's dealing with hamstring tightness, if...
If he is deemed good to go for this game, he will be the main starter there, and I don't think you'll see much value in DJ Dallas. Currently, I would still have high. I think Hyde plays, but I mean, that's based on hope. I mean, you don't, nobody here knows.
the severity of his hamstring and whether or not he'll be good to go. What I do know and what we can go back on is looking at how Chris Carson has had all these little injuries and has played through them. There were knee injuries that you thought, oh, he might miss a week. And then he was active on game day because Seattle needed him. That's what I expect to happen with Carlos Hyde is that if he's able to go, he will suit up and get out there and be given the chance to take that.
lead. Yeah, Pete Carroll did highlight when he was talking about the Sunday night football game. He highlighted that DJ Dallas, his ineptitude of pass blocking, saying that that really hurt us at the end of the game. Oh, that play? Yeah. Where the dude came right up the middle and you start the snap where DJ Dallas is straight in front of that rusher. And then DJ Dallas just runs to the left.
And let's that guy smash Russ. But he highlighted that. So I agree with you, Jason, that if Carlos Haid is there, he is the guy. I don't think they want DJ Dallas to be the main running back. But their hand might be forced. I don't think Hyde is there. Like you say, shoot your shot. I'm shooting me shot. I don't think Hyde plays. Okay. In which case, DJ Dallas, I think would be a really good option because he's a good pass catcher.
and you might need to have a little bit more dump-offs against the 49ers. Carol said that they're going to be creative, which does concern me a little bit. They could use, who knows? I mean, a wide receiver could line up back there. You could have freaking Will Disley. Oh, Rome in the backfield. Just completely. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Disley in the backfield, baby. Going to Disneyland. I don't think that's likely to happen.
But if it did, it would sound like this. You just wanted to play the drop. Yeah, I'm really thankful for that opportunity. He had a touchdown that he should have brought in this past week. Yeah. But there are so many other names, too, to bring up. Jason? All right. So it sounds like we are more confident in the 49ers situation than we are in the Seahawks situation, even though we're not confident in either.
situation. Is there a player, a backfield that you are confident in elsewhere? Well, real quick, we'll run through the Ravens because we got to lump it in of the not confident of what's happening. Mark Ingram suffered a mid to high ankle sprain a couple weeks ago. We had talked about going into the weekend. Gus Edwards was a nice speculative ad. Just throw them on your bench.
and see what happens. We don't have the news yet are Mark Ingram, but he could miss for the Baltimore Ravens, and you could end up with a timeshare of Gus Edwards and J.K. Dobbins, and Gus Edwards would be in play, but Gus Edwards would be the primary ball carrier, and you know that he would see a bunch of opportunity. And that Steelers D line is not one. I'm really looking forward to playing. I don't know how much confidence. Let somebody else invest. Yeah, I would.
I mean, I might put them in my priority order very cheap. But I'm not spinning up because I don't know if you are going to get anything out of them. Now, Joshua Kelly is, you know, compared to these murky backfields where you're looking for ultimate upset, right? Like Michael Hasty, if you hit, it looks like the Jeff Wilson week. Mm-hmm. Joshua Kelly is the floor week to me. If Joshua Kelly's out there, look, he doesn't look spectacular. But he had a ton of snaps. And he...
