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Jay Griz is the cardboard fill-in for Andy
Mike introduces the cardboard bear extraordinaire as a member of his panel alongside Jason, and the episode closes by saying Andy will be back. Jay is repeatedly addressed despite remaining cardboard and silent.
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Jay Griz chooses Bears above all
The hosts appease Jay with both Bears running backs, announce his disapproval of a defense facing Chicago, and assign Tyler Bagent as his streamer because Jay always goes 'Bears above all.'
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The FootClan elects the all-time nickname canon
For show 1500, the crew asks the Discord community to reduce a gigantic historical list to the ten greatest Ballers nicknames and promises to reveal the FootClan favorites.
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Brooks puts Brett Rippin Farts into the system
The hosts repeatedly turn Brett Rypien's name into 'Brett Rippin Farts'; when the bit returns, they ask Brooks whether it is in the system, and the exchange ends with a promise to add it before escalating to rocket farts for a noodle arm.
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Jason arrives hot off a League of Record victory
Mike introduces Jason as coming directly from a League of Record win, and Jason credits Austin Ekeler.
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The Borgogan's one-percent defense miracle
A text conversation tied to Kyle and the Borgogan describes a friend entering Monday night with a one-percent win chance and needing 30 points from the Chargers defense, which the show says he received.
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Episode notes
This is high-value Jay Griz canon. Mike identifies himself as host for the day, introduces a cardboard bear extraordinaire who has the Riz and Grizz, and then introduces Jason; the close says Andy will be back, supplying named evidence for whose missing slot the cardboard figure occupies. Throughout the show, the hosts treat Jay as an active panelist despite his silence: Bears running-back coverage is offered to appease him, he does not approve of trusting Carolina's defense against Chicago, and his stream of the week is Tyler Bagent because the hosts know he will always choose 'Bears above all.' They even address him during a mangled 'happening/hopping/hoping' Discord line. Elsewhere, the approach to show lore is visible in real time: the crew solicits a community vote for the top ten Ballers nicknames ahead of show 1500, while the new Brett 'Rippin Farts' nickname is sent to Brooks for inclusion in the system and escalates into rocket-fart canon. Jason is also introduced as coming off a League of Record win, and a Kyle-connected text shows a one-percent comeback powered by 30 Chargers-defense points.
Pop Douglas is certainly in there. He played 83% of the snaps that coincided with the ACL injury to Kendrick Bourne and came through with an okay game. I mean, he certainly did not dominate or have a great fantasy day. But when you get seven targets, catch 71% of them, you're involved in the offense. You've got a good matchup coming up. I'm not excited, but I think it's someone that should be rostered. Where are we at with Noah Brown, who was, along with Tankdale, was the hero of that game with the Texans. Yeah. He's been kind of on and off the field, you know, week one, he was more of a full-time wide receiver than he missed an entire month, and he's been slowly working his way back in. 72% of the snaps the past two weeks, five targets against Carolina. That would turn into three for 57. So, I mean, that's...
You know, much like Pop Douglas, that's not terrible. It's not terrible, but then the huge game this past week, and that did include Robert Woods being out. Right. Two things I want to bring up is I like CJ Straub, but I don't want to go to the wide receiver three. He might have a big game here or there, but he's the wide receiver three for this offense, and I don't need a rookie's wide receiver three. And Robert Woods will be back. He's dealing with his foot issue. I don't know if he'll be back this week or not. I don't believe they put him on IR, which means they assume it's fewer than four weeks. We've already missed two. So very possible he is back this week. So no, I'm not in on Noah Brown. I mean, the guys like Noah Brown, Khalil Shakir, you could take a shot on them because they could end up with a big play. But I'm not very excited about them. I think a player that I'm more excited about who is widely available.
is another rookie Michael Wilson of the Arizona Cardinals. The Cardinals offense is just about to change. Like completely. Yes. Complete turnover. You look at what the, you look at the reverse of what's going on right now with like the Rams, right? You got Brett Rip and Farts in there and all of a sudden everybody sucks. If you started the season with Brett Rippin Farts and the entire Rams offense. Is that in the system yet, Brooks? Ooh, it is not. Is that officially? I mean. I'll get it in there. Yeah, let's update there. But if you started just in case someone goes and looks at Brett's profile. Right, they need to know this dude rips farts. That dude ripped. Dad dude rips them. We're talking rocket farts for his noodle arm. But, you know, you would look at that Rams offense and say, man, I don't want a piece of this. But you obviously saw.
so much value in the running game and the passing game when Stafford was there. Just do it in reverse, right? And I know that there's concerns of like, well, Kyler's coming back from injury. Will he be? He will be much better than what has been out there. Yes. If Kyler is at 75%, if Kyler's a 50%, he will be much better than what has been out there. And that's not a slander to take it easy with national hero. To national hero Josh Dobbs, who I love. But. It's just the truth. He was the number one pick for a reason. He's been great his entire career. I mean, it's funny when you look at the Arizona Cardinals and you go, okay, when they didn't have Kyler, they had the number one overall pick. That's how they got Kyler. With Kyler, they made the playoffs. They were a 7-0 team at one point. Kyler gets injured. And without him, right now, if the NFL season was over, they have the number one pick again. Kyler's good. So, yeah, I'm
wanting to take shots on the Arizona Cardinals. I'm in agreement there. Michael Wilson would be the one off the waiver. I don't mind a trying to trade for Hollywood Brown right now or T. McBK. A. Cray McBride, probably not on the waivers, but you might just want to have a look there. Who would you rather have on your roster right now? Jamison Williams or Cuge. Ooh. And our little note here from Kyle for Jameson says he's been on by since coming into the NFL. That is true. If I had to pick between those two guys, it would be James and Williams. Because coming into the NFL, I had a lot of red flags with Q. Quentin Johnston wasn't a prospect I was in love with. He was not a slam dunk. He was, the thing I liked about him the most was that he was drafted in the first round. By the charges. By the charger. Before.
His draft capital, he was like, eh, there's a lot of things I don't like. He's talented. He's a good athlete. But I'm not in love. Whereas James and Williams in college, he was my number two wide receiver coming out. I thought he was going to be a sensation. He's just never done it yet. And I've got a lot of worries, but I would take Jameson. Plus, you got a good matchup this week against Chargers. And just a quick reminder that Detroit did trade for Donovan People's Jones. before the trade deadline, who is a field stretcher. Yeah. So that was kind of they lost Marvin Jones. I get it. But there is, I think there's a chance that he's just on the field instead of James. Oh, I completely. Jameson Williams is, I think they say in his contract, he's not allowed to have more to 40% of snaps. He wrote, he wrote that. He wrote that. He's like, I don't want. Don't you put me in the 50s or certainly not above that. Zay, I really wanted Zay Jones to be a speculative ad.
coming off with a bye week because I think that Zay Jones is a good player and the short amount that we've seen him this year. Trevor Lawrence likes throwing the ball to Zay Jones, but injuries are a massive concern. And then if you are in very deep leagues, because I get it. I mean, we have all these guys and even though they're low roster percent, a lot of them are still on, they're already on teams in like our league of record because it's a hyper competitive league. If you're in a very deep league, Take a look at Cedric Tillman, rookie wide receiver for the Cleveland Browns. He did, I mean, he only got one target this past week, one for three against the Arizona Cardinal, so that's a bit of a bummer. But his snaps skyrocketed after the trade of Donovan People's Jones. So if Watson gets back into some form of playing goodish,
And it's not just Amari Cooper then. I think there's a chance that Cedric Tillman gets involved. Sure. The last thing I'll throw out there, this is, if you need a start this week, and you're just looking at it, you're like, my team's okay, but I'm because of biweeks, I'm short my wide receiver three. And I got to put someone off of waivers straight into the lineup. I'm going to throw out Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds, he started really, really hot on the season. And he has. He's been much cooler, but he's still out there. He's still out there 70, 80% of snaps wide receiver for the Detroit Lions. Jameson Williams coming back has not hurt the snap percentage of Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds, we know can have a big game. And I expect a shootout on really nice back and forth fair with plenty of opportunity for points in the Chargers Lions matchup coming up this week. People are asking for permission to drop Christian Watson.
If Christian Watson was on waivers, I'm picking them up over just about everybody we just talked about. So looking at the situation for him, the past three weeks have been no. He hasn't hit five points. No fewer than four, but no more than 4.8. Yeah, he's living in the fours. He's had a couple plays that were near misses to change it. He's still on the field for around 80% of snaps. That might be just the MO for the entire year. I mean, near misses. Could be. It could be. But he is a talented player. So if he was out there, there's no chance I would not pick him out. That's why I'm asking the question is because I feel like if I saw Christian Watson on the waiver, I go, ooh, I hope no one noticed. But there's a chance that he's just, he's a landmine drop. He could be. You are sabotaging someone else's team by making them go, ooh, Christian Watson. I would pick up Tank Dell.
ahead of Christian Watson if he was out there on waivers. I'd pick up John Dodson over him as well. And then that would be where Christian Watson would file in. Maybe Douglas. I would rather have Christian Watson than DiMario Douglas. I get it, but that's so tough. Yeah. At the tight end position, Tassum Hill is still somehow available in about 40% of leagues. I mean, I had a... well-documented feud with Taysom Hill last year because it just was so upsetting and so gadgety. And then the Saints looked at the gadget and they said, we need to enhance the plans. We need even more Taysom Hill out there, which he's been getting used a lot in all three parts of the game. So, I mean, Tysm Hill is, the roster percentage is wild because.
I think there's a lot of people out there like me that you're frustrated by, but just how goofy it is. It's so gadgety. But it's working and they're going to it a lot. And over the last couple years, while it's worked some weeks, it doesn't work others. And he's like a 30% snap type of player. But like you said, now he's like a 50% snap player and he's being used in the passing game. He's never going to not be used in the running game. He's actually been throwing the ball. This is a month straight of top 10 tight-in fantasy finishes.
And three weeks straight to top five. So, yeah, he, he has been really good. Are you, is this giff here of Inspector Gadgett? Are you saying to call him Inspector Gadget? Maybe. Maybe you throw it out and see how it lands. He's just so good. I don't understand why. Did you, you never watched Inspector Gadget? No, I did. You're just saying because he, what, you kept saying he's so gadgetty. I'm saying he's so gadgetty. And it's, it reminds me, it's a similar situation of like, he just. Inspector Gadgett was a calamity, but he would just fluke into being the winner, which, I mean, he was helped by, what was, the daughter was Penny? The only thing. The dog was brain. Am I getting that right? I'm sure you are. You've got to mine like a steel trap. But the only problem there is that I like Taysam Hill, the guy. Whereas, like, Inspector Gadget, the guy was like, he just took credit for everything. He was a loser goofball.
Oh, I love Michael Keaton. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see. We'll noodle. We'll let the people think about it. Dalton Schultz, not widely available, but worth taking a look. We broke him down yesterday of he is just, he has really ascended, much to my surprise. Jono Smith. Oh, man. So it's kind of like what you were just saying with Taste of Hill where there's something in you that refuses to pick him up, even though he's getting it done. You're just like, no. I'm not going to do it. He's not a real tight end. I will not support this. And let me just say, I will not pick up Jonathan Smith. I won't do it. I won't do it. The guy gets jet sweep carries on the goal line. His opportunity is great. He is a top 10 tight in so far on the course of the season. That really does come from just a handful of big games. Three good games and the rest have been not good. Yeah. Yeah. The majority of his game still. Demental.
So I can't recommend him. Would you rather have Janu or Kade Aotton? Kate Aughton looked really good last week. The matchup against Tennessee is one where it's usually more of a pass funnel coming up. Kate Aughton hasn't been great, but six targets or more in three straight weeks. This last week was an unexpected shootout, so you don't expect that to happen too often, but he was really, really good. 70 yards, two touchdowns. If I had to pick between those two, I'm not saying rush to the waivers of pick up Kate Otten. I would rather have Hunter Henry than Kate Otten or Jono Smith. Hunter Henry is still available in the majority of leagues. And Gerald Everett is out there should you be so desperate. He had a good run. He did. He did. That was what you could say about. He did. Gerald Everett. He is, he is a mountain of a man. At the DST position, the Raiders. The Raiders. Wait, who plays the Jets?
I'm pretty sure the Chargers aren't a great defense. They are okay. They're middle of the pack. Right. They're not great. And they just put up 30. Who plays the Jets, Mike? It would be the Las Vegas Raiders, which we, I forgot to share this quote. Andrew Siciliano tweeted it. Head coach Robert Sala said, quote, I'm not going to say it was even close to Zach Wilson's worst game. Now, to be fair to the quote, I don't know the full context of what was said. But as a sound bite, woof. Well, to be, to be fair to the quote, it wasn't close to Zach Wilson's worse. I know, but that's the problem is you're saying something that you, maybe you feel like you're defending the quarterback, except you are not. You are just throwing them under the bus even further. The jets are, what is it? Cutting off the nose despite the face? Right. Like they, their refusal.
to admit that Zach Wilson is bad. Not like he's their refusal to say he's a bad quarterback. Like that's where they need to get to. We do not get the Jets in prime time. Oh my gosh. Is that the game they didn't flex in time? Oh, it is. Sweet. Sunday night, everybody, waiting all day for waiting all day for the Jets versus the Raiders. Oh, gross. Well. It'll be fun if you've got the Raiders DST. That's all I know. But, man, I, this is not a fantasy talk, but the Jets are four and four. The Jets are in, they're in the division race. If they traded for someone like Andy Dalton, you know, Andy Dalton could, could absolutely do a hundred times better right now than what Zach Wilson is doing. Yeah. And I, I see it from the coaching perspective.
You believed in this player. That's why you drafted a number two overall. You had a chance to get an instant Hall of Famer on your team. So I don't fault them for doing that. But you, I mean, it's hard to keep your locker room. When the defense is playing the way that they are playing, they shut down, Justin Herbert. Shut him down. And they still got shellacked. I don't know how long you can hold on. Go sign Carson Wins. Oh, no, no. Let's pump the brakes. Take it easy. For real. Take it easy. Look, I'm not saying Carson Wins is a marginal upgrade. That is a significant upgrade from Zach Wilson's. No, it is not. Let me surprise you with a couple statistics. Okay. Okay. Carson wins for the Colts. Bad Carson wins. Yeah. Late career Carson wins.
How many touchdowns do you think he threw? I don't know, 24. 27. Okay. How many interceptions you think he threw? A lot. Seven. Okay. 27 to seven? This dude's 30 years old and he's just sitting there. You can go sign them. Yeah, exactly. Nobody wants them on their team. I mean, that's a fair counterpoint. That dude must suck. Or he wants too much money. Sure. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what the reason is, personality, money, locker room, whatever. But like there is. The counterpoint to Carson Wentz is he's been on what it was like four teams in two years or whatever. Even with the manders. I mean, he had an 80 QBR in his final season.
He's 30 years old. 80? No, no, no. That's a pass. It's got to be passer rating. No. No, that's what the. All right. I don't know. That's what our website says. All right. We got to double. We've got a label drawn. We got to double check that because I don't believe it. The Raiders are in play. The Green Bay Packers are in play against Kenny Pickett. Would you play Seattle against the Manders? Yeah. Sam Howell has been his. He is on pace to be the most sack quarterback ever, but the past two weeks have been better. Yeah, it has been better, but the sacks should come. Leonard Williams with Seattle Seahawks, and one of the things that is true of well-run franchises, you saw this, you've seen this with teams several times this year, when there's an embarrassing loss, you often come back with the foot on the gas.
and the Seahawks were embarrassed by the Baltimore Ravens this last week. And I'm not going to take that as the new normal. I'm going to take that as the new motivation. We do also have an update, Jason. That is definitely quarterback rating. That is not QBR. Wait, is it a quarterback rating, not QBR. No, it is not. What is QBR? QBR was the statistic. No, but what does it stand for? Okay, maybe we need to update the label to passer rating. Yeah, there you go. But his, his QBR, which was the statistic invented by ESPN, it was 34 in Washington. And that goes to 100. Now, the other rating, that's the one that goes up to like 132 or some weird number. My point was he stunk and no one wants him on the team. What is Zach Wilson's? Oh, I don't know. Not great. It's definitely not great.
Let's see, any other defenses you want to highlight? Would you, the Panthers against Chicago? Would you dance with that devil? Man, it's really tough to trust the Panthers. I mean, Jay Gris does not approve, but. I would trust the Bears against the Panthers. Okay. If I had to pick one of those two, I usually lean in a game like that to the hometown, which is not this case, but, or no, this is in Chicago, right? Oh, even better. Jack Wilson is at 32 right now. So Carson Wins is, in fact, like I said, a marginal upgrade. Okay. And then the Atlanta Falcons, if Kyler is there, which were at about a 99.999% chance of that, I don't think I would go with it. You are, or would you, are you willing to play the Falcons against Kyler in his first game? No, no, no, I'm not.
In fact, let's go to full stream ahead and you'll find out why. So here's what's on the docket. Just kidding. Sike. Here's well, because I wanted to highlight this because I have, I'm contractually obligated to hate on Arthur Smith as much as I possibly can. So. Because you're a man of honor. Thank you. I have dignity. So currently, Arthur's on a losing streak. Back to back weeks. Backup quarterbacks. Yeah. And now if he loses this one, it's a starting quarterback, but it would be their first game in the middle of the season when your team should be. Off of major injury projected for the number one pick. Yeah. Just that's what's at stake here, Arizona. Come on, Cardinals. You got to. The whole world is rooting for you. Oh, please, please.
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Let me just take a little quick look here because I moved him where I thought I would have them. Goff is playing the Chargers. No, no, no, I know. So here are the quarterbacks I would play above Kyler. Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jared Goff, and Dak Prescott. If I've got one of those guys. All right. I'm playing those guys. Other hot names, Trevor Lawrence, Brock Purdy, CJ Stroud off his performance personally. I'm putting Kyler Murray in over them. I'm not terrified about this injury. He has taken his time. He's taken the longer end of the timeline to recover. And while I don't think he will be at peak performance, I don't think he's going to be at 100% pre-ACL performance. I think he will run the ball. I literally went today to just see what the line on his rushing total was because I was going to probably take the over. I'm assuming it's going to come out kind of mild, worried about the ACL.
It wasn't out yet. But I think he runs the ball. I think he's really good for this system. I think he's had enough time to practice the system. You're getting presumably James Connor back. You've got Hollywood Brown. The Atlanta Falcons are not very good over the last month. They're 31st and scheduled justice points allowed to quarterbacks. And Kyler Murray is slayed for fantasy football. When he starts a game, he's over 20 points in fantasy points. So I'm starting him, week one. I ain't afraid. The fact that at least the roster percentage that I'm looking at right now, Kyla Murray is at 60%. The fact that that is not 100% or whatever accounting for dead leagues is 95, just the maximum. Kyleor Murray should be rostered in every single league because of the upside. If Kyler Murray is back, the Cardinals are going to be the greatest fantasy team ever because their defense is...
You want to know why the Vikings were so good last year? Because the Vikings were so bad last year on defense. You want a good offense with a bad defense. It's fantasy gold. So, I mean, Kyler Murray is, especially with a lackluster waiver wire week, if you don't need someone to, like, I have to pick up someone to play in my flex. Get Kyler Murray. Make sure someone else does not get Kyler Murray. And then there's still buy weeks and things. The 40% of dumb leagues out there where he is available. Make sure you pick him up, even if you've got Josh Allen. And you're not going to start him this week. Pick him up and put him on your bench because you could trade him if he become – Right. Teams are – if you don't have one of those main options, those top six guys, you are struggling this year and you are looking for someone to come in and rescue your quarterback position. My streamer is Taylor Heineke against that Arizona team because they are bad. And Taylor Heineke –
He at least has weapons. We'll see if Drake London is back for them this week, but the Cardinals are 28th and schedule adjusted points, 29th and yards per attempt. 31st and completion percentage allowed. They are a bad, bad defense. And now you have the possibility that Arizona will be able to keep up and they will be able to score points. Other guys, you know, like Gino, if he is available. Yeah, Gino Sam Howell. He could be a drop, but like it's hot when waivers run. Boom, there's Gino Smith, just chilling on the waiver wire for you. Yeah, it makes sense after his bad game. But the Manders and the Seahawks, I want both quarterbacks fine with playing. I'm not even sure who I would play ahead. I think I would play Sam Howell ahead of Gino. I think I'd play Howell as well. Because he's been running enough, but both are good streaming options. Any other streamers out there that you like this week? Not this week, but let's say you are in a league that Kyler's not available.
Josh Dobbs is worth a pickup to me. The Saints this week, I don't love it. But then you get Denver and then you get Chicago. And let's say, what if Justin Jefferson is back? Exactly. And now instead of Josh Dobbs throwing to only Hollywood Brown, now he's throwing to Jordan Addison, Justin Jefferson, T.J. Hawkinson, and he's a mobile quarterback. Josh Dobbs is an intriguing. And what's funny is, what's funny is, when they brought him in, I thought he was a backup piece that might start this week until. Which they've already said he's going to start. Yeah, I mean, now after that game, it's like, oh, he's, he is the starter rest of season. He just became a Minnesota Nikon. He became a national hero, Jason. Yes.
And we're all celebrating with Minnesota. That's going to do it for the show. Good luck on the waivers. If you want our full waiver rankings, the fantasy footballers.com. We have those up there. They're available for everybody. Tomorrow we got hungry for more. We're going to break down the Thursday night matchup and jump into the mailbag. Some starts of the week. Just a lot of more stuff coming up. And a final reminder, ballers discord.com. Number one, you get to join a really awesome happening. It's happening, Jay. Hopping. Hoping. It's a fantasy football community. Hoping. It is. Thank you. It's free. You go in there. You cut it up with some other foot claim members and just have a good time talking about football. And in the announcements channel is the link to the vote for the top 10 nicknames of all time for the fantasy footballers. We need your voice. And those results will be shared on Thursday's show. That's going to do it.
We will see all y'all tomorrow. Hopefully we have flushed out Monday night's matchup. And Andy will be back for show 15. He will. Goodbye, everybody. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FF ballers.