Week 10 Waivers & QB Streamers + Fantasy Gold! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/7

On today's show, we give you our thoughts from that Monday night football game. It's also Waver Day talking a lot of strategy, looking forward, who are the players that we are targeting? What is the quarterback situation like? Make sure you don't miss a moment and subscribe. Subscribe right now. Enjoy the show. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome me to the podcast. It's the fantasy footballers podcast. Don't be nasty. Unless you want to, I mean, sometimes it's all right. Jason's nasty. Yeah, I mean, guilty is charged. I'm your host for today. Mike, the fantasy hitman right, joined by the cardboard bear extraordinaire. He's got the Riz. He's got the Grizz. And he's cardboard. Also joined by Jason Moore, hot off a league of record victory. Thank you, Austin Eckler. Awesome. Excellent.

Yeah, he came through. It's really weird because he had a bad game for him. Yeah. For who he is. Like he had three drops that you just never ever see Austin Echler make. But he also had an absolutely outstanding game with a couple of really big plays. And he is really just a touchdown machine. Yeah. Touchdowns count for a lot in fantasy football. Welcome into the podcast. It is Tuesday, November 7th. We will get into the game. Unfortunately, we will be getting into the game. Do we have to? Yeah, yeah, we got to talk about it. But we got a big announcement here. Do we have, I don't know if there's a trumpet anywhere. I don't know how to work this machine. But we got an announcement here. Thank you, Deucer's Alley. Show 1500 is rapidly approaching. How fast? Well, it's on Thursday. Okay, that's the day after tomorrow. We are really picking up steam here.

And we thought it would be fun to vote on the top 10 ballers nicknames of all time. Now, when you say of all time, it's going to take you a while to do this vote. Yes. Yeah. If you've been with the show for a while, number one, thank you so much. But two, it will be a stroll down memory lane for you because it was for us of like, oh yeah. That was a good time. Yeah. But if you want to vote for that, just join our Discord. It's completely free, ballers discord.com. Go into the announcements channel and there will be a link to a gigantic survey where you can hopefully narrow it down to your top 10. It's not an easy task. We have all done it. It's a fun task, but it's very fun. Like when I first saw it and I scrolled and I saw the names, it's like, oh, man. And then as I started reading, I was like, oh, yeah. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I was clicking ones.

And then I kept scrolling and I would have to go back and unclick one from the top. And just, oh, man, it was tough breaking it down. But you got to do it at ballers discord.com. And please do it because we want to know what the footclans favorites are over the course of time. If you want to watch the show, YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. That's where we go live each and every Sunday. Usually me, but sometimes. There's a random cast of characters that jump in. On the socials, Instagram.com slash fantasy footballers on Twitter at the FFBallers. Jason is at Jason FFFL. I am at FF Hitman and Andy is at Andy Holloway. All right. Into the sweltering nasty, like the bad nasty, disgusting fart fest that was the Los Angeles Chargers against the New York Jets. The Chargers trounced the Jets 27 to 6.

But not really. But it didn't. The Jets trounced the Jets 27 to 6 is really what happened. The Jets defense was fantastic against the Chargers. They, they didn't give up 27 points. They really didn't. Obviously, the special teams touchdown to start the game, you know, was not that defense's fault. And then it's really not the defense's fault. Well, it's the special teams. It's the Jets fault. Well, yeah, I mean, it's all the Jets fault. But the turnovers on offense, especially at the end of the game that put Austin Eckler, you know, inside the five for an easy walk-in touchdown. It's like you can't really blame them. And you can't give much credit to the Chargers because they struggled to move the ball. The whole game, both sides, it was just like, oh my gosh, I feel like every play. It's like two yards, two yards, both teams, just like something underneath, something quick, something boring. That's how it felt.

It lasted forever. I have an interesting question for you. Who played better? Justin Herbert or Zach Wilson? That's Justin Herbert. And I know what you're saying because Zach Wilson, he threw the ball pretty well. He had 263 yards and at times looked really, really well. But the reason that Justin Herbert definitely is the correct answer and he played better than Zach Wilson is because Zach Wilson's inability to sense pressure, to see the pressure. to stop himself from getting sacked eight times, to stop from fumbling twice. Herbert was five. But, I mean, protecting the ball. The issue here was the fumbles and the turnovers caused by a lack of awareness. You can see it in that Zach Wilson finished the game with a higher passer rating, but the QBR, the newer metric that is out there, Justin Herberts was significantly higher. Austin Echler was...

The bright spot, aside from the DST. Oh, goodness. I don't know who put this text conversation in here, but one of us was talking to a friend and, oh, so Kyle's friend here, the Borgogan, text a friend who was, who got 30 points from the DST, from the Chargers here. We're talking a 1% chance of victory. Yeah, you need 30 points from a defense going into Monday night. And the Chargers. Oh, man. Zach Wilson said, I got you. Just an absolute incredible performance from that. Keenan Allen was fine. Garrett Wilson was fine. Other than that, it was really disappointing. Yeah, Brees Hall was was okay. How many? Let's see. You had four reception, so that kind of helped pad the stats. But four, four for ten is like that is not, that's not what you want from Brees Hall.

And what you definitely don't want from Brees Hall is Michael Carter at six receptions. Well, but that was in almost entire. Was that the garbage time? That was just the garbage time drive where Michael Carter was in the two-minute drill. And he, I think he might have had all six receptions on that drive. It was absurd. Yep. So just a rough game. Quentin Johnston. Oh, that's, that's a storyline. That's an important storyline. So a tweet from Adam Levittan. He was just highlighting, you know, the routes, and you would not know it. No. But Quge ran the most routes at the wide receiver position for the Chargers, and that turned into two for 14. Now, with only three targets, that's really bad. Now, they went for it right at the very beginning of the game. I think it was second or third down. They tested the jets. They aired it out, and it was a bracket coverage, and Sauce Gardner was just right there.

with Kuge and easily knocked the ball down. So perhaps they saw that and went, nope, this is not going to work. We're not going to go to it. So where, I mean, like, are you even, are you rostering? No, I don't, I don't think so. It's waiver day, so we're going to talk about other players. Yeah, I mean, there are plenty of players I would rather pick up and, you know, and therefore drop Quentin Johnston on my roster. You, you know, we talk about targets per route run as one of those really important stats. And what that is is means how often when you actually run a route are you receiving the target? Are you earning the target? Well, he ran a lot of routes. 35. And he had three targets. So he's not getting open or he's not in the place where Herbert wants him to be or he's not an important enough look in the offensive scheme. Whatever the reason, it's just continuing to happen. And, you know, that's really disappointing.

it's the combination of like you can forgive a player who hasn't yet received his opportunity but once you start seeing a player receive more and more opportunity and do nothing with it a la sky more right that's where it starts to get scary and you go maybe maybe he just doesn't have it now he was a he was more of a potential prospect you know an athlete that was more raw So you've got to give him. The physical traits are there. You've got to give him more time. You're not going to write off his career. But like I'm on, like I went from yellow to red on my alert level. Okay. So is there anything else you want to talk about for the game or just are we done here? I think we're, I think we can move on. News and notes from around the league. Presented by USAA Insurance. Cardinals update. Number one, the team is, quote, hoping.

to open the 21 day practice. You hadn't seen that ad you. I hadn't seen it phrased as we're hoping to do this. When I understand it, but it feels silly to say it like that. When it's, it's like the coach is like, why didn't this person get the ball? Like, well, I'm going to have to look into that. You're the coach. You're the, you're the, you're the people who can do this. But I get it. They're saying James Connor may not be. ready yet to come back. I don't think that is what they're saying. No? Do you think he's back this week? We don't know. Oh, is this Gannon? I think it's Gannon. I think it's Gannon ease. That's what I think this is. We basically all know. Kyler has to be activated this week. He can't play that game anymore. He's not going to say, well, we might put Kyler back on the pup. Like, he's still saying stupidly, well, if he has a good week of practice, then, you know.

Hopefully it goes well and he could be the starter. Yeah, it was the next piece of information was barring any setbacks. Yeah, yeah. Kyler Murray is expected to start. But, but to speak to James Connor, it was reported last week. I mean, maybe, maybe that report was wrong, but we had heard that James Connor last week was fully healthy and ready to go. And so this week, now that his 21 day window opens up, we fully expect him to be the starter paired with Kyler. And maybe a healthy offense going forward. We don't know about Michael Wilson, but he might be there too. Yep. So some potentially good news here for the Cardinals and their players. Debo Samuel, the 49ers, he returned to practice. That's tremendous news. Sean McVeigh of the Rams said Kyvern Williams is expected to return week 12. They're on by right now for week 10. And they are hopeful that Matthew Stafford will play in week 11.

as is the rest of the known football universe. Right. Like if we're all very hopeful that Matthew Stafford will start. Yeah, not just Rams or Rams fans. Any fan other than fans of the opposing team. Right. All want to not have Brett ripping farts out there because that just implodes. Darrell Henderson, you can't play him. Royce Freeman, you can't play him. Cooper Cup. Bench him. Brett ripping farts can't get it done in the NFL. How much of. Brett's upbringing. Like, when he was a youth, how many times today did he hear that joke? Uh, probably not enough. Like, you know, and a lot. He's in the NFL, Jason. If you're in the NFL, even as a terrible backup quarterback, that means, like, at some point of your life, you were dominant. Oh, it was much more Brett's ripping it, you know, in a good way, like slinging the ball around. But, you know, you're at this level. You're,

You're ripping farts? We have higher expectations. Jamar Chase is day to day with a sore back. I mean, we all saw the play in the game where Jamar Chase elevated for a catch, didn't catch it, but then came down directly on his back. So we will monitor him. Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel says Devon A-chan is on track. Yeah, baby. For week 11, the dolphins are on by this week. The Bears. This one is tough. Because the Bears play Thursday night. Am I correcting that one? Yes, sir. I'm getting nods. Khalil Herbert returning from a high ankle sprain. The 21-day window was opened. He was listed as a full participant. It's a short week of practice, though, and he's still returning from the high ankle sprain. What does this do for you, Jason, of looking at Deont de Foreman, who saw his highest running back share this past week?

Believe he had 20 carries. And he's looked excellent. He's looked. He has been leaping guys, getting yards after contact. He's been great. What this says to me is that Khalil Herbert will be active and in the game. What will be really, really interesting to see is what happens with the other two guys as far as. roster wise. Because if you remember before Khalil Herbert went down, Deontiformin wasn't active because he's not a special teams player. And they wanted their third running back to be someone that could assist on special teams. So it'll be interesting to see there is a world where Deontiformin is inactive for this game. And Khalil Herbert and Rochon Johnson are the two primary backs. What it does is it affects the waiver pickup like I had originally. Deontiformin, um,

as like my number two running back pickup this week. But with the news that Khalil Herbert's practicing in full, I'm not in. In fact, you might want to check and see if Kalil Herbert's on waivers, if he's been gone, if you're in a league without IR, and he had to be dropped. Sure. But really, I don't want any of the running backs now. It wasn't valuable back before the injury and, you know, coming off of a high ankle sprain, you're usually not at peak performance week one. Justin Fields was listed as a limited participant on Monday. Again, short week, doubtful, I think. Yeah, we will see. When asked about Zay Jones on Monday, Doug Peterson did not shoot down the possibility of Jones going on IR. I mean, this. Doug Peterson is a pretty straight shooter with injuries. So I think, you know.

You're not going to say Jones now. I mean, what that comment means of not shooting NIR is he's not playing now. And that's all you need to know. Like he should probably be on waivers. And then just the reminder, the players who are eligible to return to practice. Soon, this does not mean that they are. Justin Jefferson. That's the big name. And before you name the rest. So when his injury first happened. It was reported to be a four to six week injury. Yes, and we're at four. We're at four weeks. He is eligible to be activated. The vibes, I mean, he's been traveling with the team every week. He wants to get back. The team has been winning. Everything is great. But the vibes right now and the reporting.

is that he's not really expected to be activated this week. And if you start going to the four to six timeline, I mean, this is their franchise player. They don't want to risk reaggravation, even though they want him back. And I'm sure he wants to be back. But if you go, okay, it's more on the six week timeline. And so now you're going into not just week 10, but week 11. Now you're one week away from the buy. They got the buy in 13. And so you go, oh, man, if we've waited this long. Do we get him back? So it's something the monitor. I unfortunately had to make a decision in a Keeper League to trade him away. Part of that was because of the realization that if it's on the six week timeline, it might be a seven week timeline, which makes it an eight week timeline, which means he comes back for one week before the fantasy playoffs. So TBD, but he is eligible to return this week. So we all are crossing the fingers. Hopefully by the time you're hearing this, you go.

Well, that's old busted news, and Justin Jefferson's looking good to a return. James Connor, we talked about it, and Khalil Herbert. Next week would be A-chan and the Muth. Yeah. Maybe the Mute. And then week 12 will be Kyron Williams coming back. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usAA.com slash insurance. Welcome to the waiver wire, presented by Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 3. Oh, yeah, baby. Call the duty over here. Hey, hey, look at that. Look at that. All right. The bye this week, the Chiefs, Dolphins, Eagles, and Rams are all on the bye week. That's gross. Those are some big names. No Mahomes, no Hertz, no Tua. It's three of the big six quarterbacks that we had talked about. And next week, because always be preparing for next week. Next week is the Colts, Falcons, Patriots, and Saints, not as devastating, but.

Still some players there. At the running back position, here we are. Jason, who is your number one pickup of the week? My number one pickup. Is it the flashy hotness or is it the second round pick? Uh, my number one pickup at the running back position is nobody. I don't, I feel like, I feel like I don't, I mean that. Like if I had, if you're not in a fab system, if you're in a waiver priority system and you've got the number one, you know, uh, waiver priority. I'm not burning it on a running back this week. There are a few names that you could pick up to maybe start. So I think the two primary names, correct me if I'm wrong, would be Zach Charbonnet and Keaton Mitchell. That is. That's who I have. So those two rookie running backs, Zach Charbonnet, the backup running back for the Seattle Seahawks, who is very talented. It was a second round draft pick, has out snapped Ken Walker for two weeks, but.

has been pretty much irrelevant for fantasy. Even with those snapshares, he's not really amassing a lot of volume and opportunity for fantasy. He is still a backup. Even if the snaps are higher, he is clearly the backup in the gameplay. So it's like, I don't want, I'm not looking forward to playing a backup running back. And then you've got Keaton Mitchell. Keaton Mitchell, an undrafted free agent from East Carolina. rookie who's come in unexpectedly. I didn't scout him in the pre-NFL draft time. And he's... Neither did the NFL. Right. And he's just looked really, really, really great. He has 8-hand speed. Yeah, 437.40 time. And we've seen it on display. I mean, last week, he had nine carries for 138 yards and a touchdown. And so...

The Baltimore Ravens offense is in need of someone like this. Right now, it's still Justice Hill getting the vast majority of snaps over Gus Edwards, over Keaton Mitchell. And Gus Edwards was also dealing with a toe injury, I believe that's what it was listed as, heading into the week. Not enough to keep him out, but maybe that was enough to alter the snapshot between Gus and Justice. Yeah, so between these two guys, I mean, you've got kind of more. hopeful upside, I think, right now with Keaton Mitchell without an injury ahead of him. Like, Zach Charbonnet needs Ken Walker to go down to be a fantasy sensation, right? Keaton Mitchell, there's hopes where you go, oh, he could, he could just beat out Justice Hill. Like in a couple weeks, if he keeps getting more and more use, maybe Justice Hill just takes a back seat and they say, hey, our team has more juice with Keaton. The truth is, I think neither one of these players becomes a dominant.

fantasy options. So that's why I said, I don't have a number one pickup at the running back position this week. You could make an argument that the better pickup is Antonio Gibson if you just need to start this week. Yeah, I was going to say, don't look now, but Antonio Gibson has been getting, you know, decent opportunity in the passing game. We're at two straight weeks of five targets, and he's Antonio Gibson, so he's doing good things with those opportunities. Still is the bit player. compared to Brian Robinson, but targets and receptions are worth far more than carries. So maybe, maybe, and this new look Washington team where they're traded away the defensive players, maybe they have to pass a bit more to keep up. Maybe that gets Antonio Gibson on the field a little bit more. Justice Hill. He just, I think he's been in every single waiver list that we have put out.

This year, it's tough to gauge. Like if Baltimore truly goes to three players, a three-headed monster at the running back position, it's going to be just brutal each and every week to pick. I mean, Gus Edwards is the one who feels the safest in terms of he might only get five carries all of this week, but those carries are going to come inside the 10 should the Ravens get down there. So I'm with you, Jay, that. I'm not over the moon about adding any of these players, but you always got to be looking forward. I think that I would prioritize Keaton just because I think there's a chance that he could outplay Justice Hill, basically what you're saying, where Charbonnet, it's going to fluctuate. Like Ken Walker will not go away. Sharbonnet cannot outplay Ken Walker off the field where Keaton Mitchell...

There's a chance over the next few weeks that that happens? You look at Justice Hill the last month. The last month, Justice Hill's played a lot of snaps, 63%, 50% of the snaps. He's played the most snaps at running back for the Baltimore Ravens. He's had opportunities. Last week he had 14 opportunities given his direction. He scored four fantasy points. The week before seven, the week before five, the week before five. I'm going to take the shot on Keaton Mitchell. I don't need... four or five or seven fantasy points. Sure. That does nothing. And I'm not wanting to start any of these guys. So really, if you're looking at a running back this week, you're looking at insurance options. You're looking at backup guys who might sky forward with an injury ahead of them. Obviously, probably the biggest one would be Tajay Spears. He would be the one that, yeah, he's on about half of waivers. He remains a very interesting player of six targets.

He, depending on the game script that the Titans find themselves in, Spiers will be on the field a bit more. The player that we're back, I'm going to highlight him real quick, it's Ty Chandler of the Minnesota Vikings. When he had his opportunity at the beginning of the year, when it was Alexander Madison and Chandler was the backup, Chandler was not getting on the field. Now, things could be different. Obviously, the Vikings traded for Cam, sorry, Cameron. Thank you. Mr. Akers showed up and he was starting to get more and more snaps. Are they indicating they are not pleased with Madison's play? Perhaps. That could have been an indication they're not happy with Ty Chandler's play. Right. Yeah, there's so many variables we just don't know. But there is the chance moving forward now that Chandler gets on the field more because they want to introduce him as a change of pace back. Madison is a grinder. He does not have special speed.

Chandler does. He's extremely fast, and their schedule moving forward, aside from this week against the Saints, their schedule is pretty favorable for the running back position. So I think that he is worth a cheap speculation ad just to see this week. Does he actually get on the field? Yeah, and to appease, Jay Gris. Thank you. Both. Dionto Foreman and Clil Herbert, just look. I mean, they both deserve to be rostered even if you're not going to play one until there's clarity. But take a look at your waivers, see if they're there. And if you're not trying to add one of these players, a reminder, pick up your insurance running backs. If you have ETN, you should be picking up tank. If you have Christian McCaffrey, you should be picking up Elijah Mitchell. Should you be picking up Joshua Kelly? Oh, no.

No, we kind of saw what that turned into. No, I don't think so. Joshua Kelly had the opportunity. It's one of those things where it's like Joshua Kelly had missed games where Austin Echler wasn't there and he had his opportunity. And what he taught me was if Austin Echler misses more games, don't put in Joshua Kelly. So like, why pick him up? It's, it's fair. Hey, quick break. And then we are back with the wide receivers. Wide receivers, Jay, who is at the top? of your list. Do you have any? Yeah. Or let's start. Are there must ads this week? Yes. There are two. So better than the running backs. There are much better. There are two must ads, must, must, must ads. Now, they are still rostered in about 60% of leagues. So, you know, but you have to take a look. Tank Dell and Johan Dotson have to be on rosters now.

Dotson's had targets in three straight weeks. He's had two great games in a row. He's a first round NFL draft pick that is talented. And Sam Howell looks like he's getting it together. Their defense is worse after trading people. And Tank Dell, rookie sensation, who is, he's had a funny season because he's been very boom or bust. You know, he's got three games right now with more than 15 fantasy points already. And then he's got four games where he, you know, didn't hit seven fantasy points. So, but the flashes on the field have shown that he is legit. He is there to play. His production in college was insanity. So this is translated from college to the NFL. And then you've got C.J. Stroud, who looks just like the real deal. So I would personally take Tank Dell over Johan Dotson. I think that's fair. Targets per route run on the season.

Tank is at 21.4%. Nico is at 22. So it is getting divvied up between those two guys. Just knowing, yeah, boom bust, I get it. But knowing that at any given week, Tankdale could go off. That's a player that you want to have on your roster. You want to be balanced and have guys starting that you know are going to give you points. But we always talk about injecting volatility. Demario Douglas, aka Dirty Pop. Dirty Pop. In his first real opportunity, seven targets, five, four. Is he an easy option right behind those other two wide receivers? Yes, he is. He's also got a good matchup against Indianapolis this week. So if you need someone that you have to pick up and play with kind of hopeful long-term upside.