Fantasy Football - Shocking Stats + Fantasy Valentines - Podcast for 2/12

Dak about what he truly represents for fantasy football. And it's hard, it's hard being the Cowboys quarterback in terms of the scrutiny put on to you. Like I was, in the interim, you know, did not talk about the commentary stuff, but Tony Romo the player. Tony Roma the quarterback was a very good quarterback. Yes, he had, he has unfortunately one of the biggest gaffs in football history of botching the snap. And it's like that stains the, but, dude, Tony Romo was great. And Dak Prescott is great. I want to actually give you the numbers. Please. With Breeze, if you don't mind. So this is 10 seasons. This is 139 games played for Dak and 138 games played for Drew Breeze. Okay. Dak has a better record as a starting quarterback. Okay. 83 and 55, Breeze was 79 and 58. Higher completion percentage goes to.

That one's surprising if it's... Yes, DAC. 66.9%. Breeze was breaking records. Well, later on, but first 10 years, 65%. Passing yards? Dashing touchdowns? Dak. By eight. Interceptions, 92 for DAC, 132 for Drew Breeze in that span. And that doesn't even give him any credit for being the... Four times the rusher. I was going to say, you know on the ground, DAC was way better. When did Breeze change teams? What year? I mean, it was early. It was really early. I can give you that. Yeah. Because in my head, I'm like, he was a, he was a charge. While you look that up, right? He was, he was a charger for, yeah, longer than I thought. He had played four years there as a starter, five years total. So again, his, his record-breaking, like, completion percentage years.

go well beyond his 10th season when he, I mean, his last four years, 72, 74, 74. I think the issue. Thank you, Michael Thomas. The issue with Dak Prescott is the same as what you were bringing up with Tony Roma. It's a, it's a Dallas Cowboys issue. They're a franchise. Never winning playoff games. That's what I mean. The the franchise is not taken super serious right now. They haven't been in a NFC championship game in longer than every other NFC team by like. triple almost everybody. And it's like a Jerry Jones problem. If you were to give Dak with those stats, one Super Bowl, he won a Super Bowl four years ago. Yeah, it changes everything. Everything. Everything of your perception about him, for sure. And I don't think that's fair to Dak. He, you know, to be honest, for the last several years, we've, I feel like we've been a very pro-DAC as a player group. He is, he's, he's,

He's not given the – Not given the credit that he deserves. Awesome for fantasy. Yeah. I don't think he's ever not finished as a quarterback one if he's finished the season. Correct. So I'm on team deck. The wins and losses thing, it's a – it's an interesting stat. But it's not really that indicative. Like, it's not against good defenses or against bad defenses. Obviously, you would expect to score fewer points in the games you lose because you scored fewer points than your – opponent but there's also the weird games this season where you know like week one deck played great uh move the ball against the super bowl champion eagles and then giovante got all the touchdowns they lost that game by a few but the they scored a lot of points i think the highlight there is just that it was the biggest gap ever for a quarterback that finished as high as he did and then you didn't get

Clearly, you didn't like some garbage time special stuff from DAC this year. Otherwise, maybe those even out a little bit better. We'll see what the defense can do next year. I'm trying to decide what I want to go with for the second one. I think I want to have the Genti discussion. So our second shocking stat, let me see if I can pull it up here. I don't remember where. Where is that one? It's number five. Number five. It's just right next to it. This one's called Where's the Big Place? So Ashen Genti touched the ball 321 times. Six plays of 20 plus yards. This next part is going to hurt. Get ready. Austin Hooper touched the ball 21 times. So 300 fewer times. Six plays of 20 plus yards. You cannot hear stuff like that and not. If you've been in the fantasy football. That's a funny stat. Yeah, that one's ridiculous, Kyle. If you've been in the fantasy football world for enough time, you just can't look at the gente season and not having the back of your mind somewhere.

see I haven't told either what I'm going to say but you might already know it but Trent Richardson his yeah that's the name in the back of your head because the volume masked things like this now the very end of the year there were there were a couple big plays by Genties that I think were truly special but it is in the back of your head 60% of his runs went for three yards or fewer I am excited about Kubiak arriving. Yes. I'm excited about them having, you know, Mendoza stabilized that position. They had the worst quarterback in football this year. I genuinely think that. I think Gino was worse than Shadoor this year. I think he was the single most detrimental offensive player for any team. Poor Pete Carroll. The record would bear that out. So, but Ashton Gentile, let's talk about him for a second. I'm not going to hold it against him that he got that many opportunities. That's a good thing.

If he didn't get that many opportunities and he was this inefficient, I think we would be talking bust slash fears. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If he was someone that touched the ball 240 times this year and was as inefficient, that would be, you know, he wouldn't be drafted in the top 15 running backs at all going into next season. The fact that at the end of the season, he had a couple big breakaway plays, breakaway games. His single game against the Houston Texans, where he did have a 60-yard touchdown reception where he had a 51-yard carry against a great defense was like, that's him. That's the guy that, you know, we drafted high in fantasy, the Raiders drafted high in the NFL draft. Honestly, the change over as a whole quarterback, offensive mind.

play caller Kubiak coming in. It's going to forgive a lot of, you know, the problems that he experienced us last year. I think everything will be forgiven. And he'll be drafted probably higher maybe than he should be. I was going to read some names to you, if you don't mind. Give me your first initial reaction on who you'd like more or less. I'm looking at the top finishers for last year, by the way. His yards per carry, just to give you context, one plus for him. He finished at 12 overall. And at 12 overall, It was on the worst team in football that gets the number one pick. And we always want running backs with winning teams, so he managed to finish top 12. Well, winning teams, but also running backs who had a rookie quarterback start 10 or more games over the last decade. The running back, the running back one for those teams, averaged seven and a half total touchdowns. You want to hear something crazy? First season. Top 25 finishers at running back, the lowest three in yards per carry. You ready for him? Ashen Gentie. You know Ash and Genties there, right? There were two at or below his number.

What was he at? 3.7. Now, by the way, number one overall, Christian McCaffrey was 3.9. So that was actually exceptionally low. Was Barclay's sub four? Sequin Barclay was not. He was 4.1. Okay. The other two are rookies. Oh, how funny. RJ Harvey was 3.7. Okay. And then number 25 on the total list got hurt. Judkins? Quinn Sean Judkins. Yeah. Was 3.6 per carrier. The three rookies. And guess what the fourth one is? Down at 29. Woody marks at 3.6. So literally like out of the top 30 running backs, the four lowest yards per carries were rookies. If you want, at least some hope. And RJ Harvey's offensive line was way better than JCP's. Harvey is, Harvey's kind of a scary. He's starting to look at, like I'm starting to see his career out in front of me in the looking glass, whatever.

It looks like committee back type of guy. If you want at least something hopeful, we're looking at lowest yards before contact per attempt. Poor guy. Yes, yes, very much so. And we're looking at, we've got 14 first round running backs, the oldest one being going back to Ezekiel Elliott. So of the 14 players, lowest yards before contact, aka his... Offensive line is doing nothing to help him. He was last at 1.6. Just in front of him would have been the Najee Harris rookie year, if you remember. Very similar thing to Ashton Genti of volume took care of everything, especially receiving. Now, different players because no one confuses Najee, even rookie Najee, his big playability versus Ashton Genti. Those are very different things. But so.

They got to fix the run scheme. I mean, the fact that we had Pete Carroll's kid running the offensive line. Yeah. That was a, that was a nepo fail. Yes. It's funny because we look at like the Cubiacs. Yes. Nepotism. The shanahan's. Yeah. And we're like, good. Give me. The hard boss. Yeah. Have more kids. Give me more shanahan. But sometimes it don't work when, especially when it's your. your kid who seemingly doesn't deserve it and then gets it as a surprise and then everyone else was fired but him the um you got to remember like sequin barclay was sub for a carry in his final year in new york yeah you changed offensive lines and he he added two yards per carry i mean you have the the thing where a player like this on a team like this

They start pressing. They start wanting to hit a home run. Are you looking for that to move him up in your, in your rankings that they, oh man. Offensive line is 100%. Could he make top five for you with offensive line move? No, I don't think you can. Because of a rookie quarterback. Yeah, I think he could get near it for sure. But that that's what they need to do. They need to go out and trade for a guard, sign a tackle. Like the fact that right now. Give me the other positions. The fact that right now we are. talking about on today's news that they're really targeting Alec Pierce or Rashid is like go and spend some money on you know not that not that just any of the other boring stuff yeah it's the gross stuff well I've got the money now rookie quarterback contract maybe make the most of it all right we'll take a break and I've got more shocking stats for you today's show is brought to you by our friends over at prize picks

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All right, our next one, let's talk about rookie tight-in quirks. All right, we have Tyler Warren, Colston-Levelin. We talked about Fanon earlier, so we'll complete the trifecta here, the triforce of rookie tight-ins. But Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland's seasons did not just end on different notes, right? Warren took over the front half of the season. He looked like maybe you'd have the top tight-in again. When Bowers got hurt. Yeah, for sure. There was a chance that Warren would be the top tight-in. At the second half of the season, it was Colson Loveland's time. I just looked at, I think, the last.

eight games of the season. Point for Fanon, even in that span where Loveland was, I think, number five. I think Fanon was like four. Like in points per game, there were five and six or something. Fanon was still ahead in the second half of the year when Loveland took off. But the interesting thing about Warren and Loveland is that they actually, they even produced in very, very different ways. 62% of Warren's fantasy points came in the first half of the game, which that made a great impression on us, too. You turn the game on and Warren every... Every time it was it was pretty often that it yeah it's nicer that way but it was also pretty often where it's like you'd you'd watch what Tyler Warren's doing he were gonna be like yeah he's finishing he's the number one tied in this week and then he didn't do anything he's finished playing this week right yeah yeah and then 40s I remember that with Jonathan Taylor too it was like the Colts were so good the first were the first half of this year before Daniel Jones went down there was half of the first half's too that was they were so good that they didn't do much of anything in the second half

That was brutal. And then they didn't make the playoffs. 42% of Loveland's fantasy points came in the fourth quarter. So they completely different. You would start Loveland and go, uh, I would be surprised, or maybe that's the wrong word. I would be interested to see what of, what percent of Caleb Williams points are scored in the fourth quarter? Because watching Bears games was. Kyle will probably figure that out in about 30 seconds. The story of the Bears and Caleb Williams was. How do they possibly keep coming back in the fourth quarter? But they did it on the weekly. And then they did it in the playoffs. Like this was, they really got to get the first three quarters going. Yeah. And I look at those specific disparities for those two guys as incredibly fluky and non-prescriptive personally. You know, Loveland, part of what he did, again, we have the fantasy context.

They went to the playoffs. They won a game in the playoffs. They played two playoff games. We kept seeing Colston Loveland be an important part of this offense. I think his establishment over the second half, regardless of what time of game, the points game, is what I'm more looking forward to in the next season, where this was the progressive unlocking of a super weapon, in my opinion. It seemed that way. And I know I've brought up the fact that when Colson Loveland started having his breakout, that was when Roma Dunesay went down to injury and the targets went his way. And it was really a question of when everybody's healthy, when Luther Burden is healthy and when Rome is healthy, is Colson Loveland really going to matter? But you're right, Andy, down the stretch into the playoffs once they were all healthy.

Loveland was their best receiving option, including the wide receivers. Jacob Gibbs on Twitter tweeted this out. There was basically about 100 routes where all three of those guys were on the field together. Oh, okay. And on those routes, team target percentage, you had Luther Bergen at 18.8, Roma Dunzee at 20, and Colston Loveland at 33.8, which is an outrageously high number. I mean, that's, if you want to be bullish on Loveland, that to me is the stat that says he can be a high target even with everybody healthy and active because he was in the most important time of the year. And there was a part of this year and this just shows the reactionary sports fantasy culture where the, because of his injury, we were ridiculing Chicago for the pick. How could you let, and look at what Tyler Warren can do.

How could you possibly go with closer? And then by the end, you're like, well, maybe they did their homework. And to me, the eye test was passed by all three. All three of those rookies. That's why you put them in order. That's where like, I guess me personally, I don't feel a disrespect for Fanon just because I have them third of that bunch because it's like. three A, B, and C to me. Right. Or one A, B, C. We disrespect them all. I guess three works because if you want to put McBride and Bowers, and then it's three A, B, and C. It probably is very accurate. I remember early in the off season, you came in and you're like, dude, I just got to ask the question I can't come up with. And it was basically put those three guys in order. And the three of us had three completely different orders. So.

Kyle looked it up, Caleb, second most passing touchdowns in the fourth quarter and overtime to the NFL. Spread it out. Number one was Mr. Stafford. Yeah, it's interesting. I'm going to read you some more shocking stats. I just want to get your kind of knee-jerk reaction to any of them. If there's anything prescriptive for fantasy, if you want to make fun of anybody because of them. Oh, I do. Whatever the case may be. One that was really cool. It was just Daniel Jones, who had gone from the worst quarterback under pressure in his career. to apparently the best. He led all quarterbacks in completion percentage when under pressure and in passerating went under pressure. The previous two years, he was basically basement dwelling when it comes to under pressure, passer rating, completion percentage in yards per attempt. And then he was number one, number six in yards per attempt, and number one in passerating.

How? I think if we had more numbers, I'm guessing that he was under pressure far less this last year and had opportunities to like get into the game, get into play action, have a lead where he's not spent his career usually having a lead in the pass rush that's coming after him is because it's like, oh, this is great advantage for the defense. Now he was playing for a team where it's like. The advantage was usually on the offense. He was usually leading and they didn't know if they were going to run or pass. Less desperation went under pressure. Exactly. Yeah. Well said. How about this one, Mike? The 2025 Steelers offense threw the ball on average, 2.97 yards short of the first down marker. The lowest. I love this stat. Of any NFL team in 10 years, 67% of Pittsburgh's passing yards came after the catch.

This is a simultaneous gut punch to all Metcalf managers and a confusing head scratch to the, we got to get this guy back behind center. Aaron Rogers? Yeah. My initial reaction is this is the most Aaron Rogers. I get to blame everybody else for the like, how did we not get the first down? I completed the pass. You're like, bro, throw to the sticks. Wasn't he? historically even when he was at his peak wasn't there a big conversation about not taking certain chances when he had those incredible 37 and 4 like touchdown to interception ratio seasons not that you remember this like there were times when they they really i think it was kind of towards the end of the green bay era he had put up back-to-back seasons of like 37 and 4 and 38 and 3 or something like that the ayahuasca years um

But he wasn't willing. There were certain plays that looked like he left him out on the field because he didn't want to throw that interception, didn't want to mess up those numbers. Yeah. These numbers that you're talking about with the before the sticks, it's like, hey, my completion percentage stays high. My numbers look good as I move into the Hall of Fame season. It's everybody else's fault. Well, that much is always true. So I love that. Also, he's going to say yes to McCarthy coming back and then he's going to yell at McCarthy all season long. This is like. So it's now framed as like a D.K. Metcalf question. And I will, I will be out. I will be out. I was, I was dragged in by. That's your guy. D.K. Mikealf. I was dragged in by the possibility of Aaron Rogers, wide receiver one, getting volume. That volume didn't show up. No more Arthur Smith, though. Yeah, but D.K. McCaff still is who I.

think he is which is that might be true a good wide receiver a player i'd like to have on my NFL team but not paying him wide receiver astronomical contract money couple wild jet stats for you the jets were tighter trailing on 93% of their offensive snaps and the jets ranked last and rushing plays inside the five for the third consecutive year a fart of a franchise I am so sorry to Jets fans. They are just about the only one I feel for more than us Cardinals and Browns fans. The Jets, J-E-T-S sucks, sucks. I mean, they are the worst. I don't know if you know how to spell. I don't know if the Jets know how to spell. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. I mean, there's not a lot to go with there other than the fact that Brees is going to be gone.

They did not get inside the five enough to give Breece opportunities to be elite. Braylon Allen is still. Braylon Allen is still 22 years old. I am curious about what that looks like for the Jets next year. Isaiah Davis is also very young. If they don't draft somebody. Over under 275 targets for Garrett Wilson. Who's the quarterback? I don't know. Well, if it's a rookie under. To a tongue of Iloa. Oh, over. Dude, I would take it. Yeah, yeah. I would. A struggling girl are the Garrett Wilson Hive out there. I know you were with me. Yes. Now, wait a minute. You grade on a scale when it comes to Gary Wilson quarterback. We would take to a, we absolutely would. Have you heard the latest rumor for who could play quarterback there now that I forget, forget who they got, a quarterback's coach or someone.

who's good friends with a guy who recently said he would be willing to come out of retirement to play quarterback. Oh, no. Yeah, oh, no, indeed. Bill Musgrave is there new? Yes. Bill Musgrave. Yeah. Is there a new quarterback? No, no, no. That's the new offensive. Quarterback coach. Good friends with Derek Carr. I'd take Derek Carr. Really? Tell that to Chris Olave. And enjoy your murder balls for Garrett Wilson. I will tell that to just based off of the current depth charts. All I know is that if Garrett Wilson has to catch Derek Carr. Garrett Wilson won't survive. No, he won't. Okay, no, I'm out on that. Give me Tua. Yeah, because Tua doesn't blow his guys up either. Tua throws it so far behind his players. They have room to come back and get it. It's the best way to throw a deep pass. It really is. I don't understand why it's like not the way. Run a nine.

And then like when you get to the 10 yard liner, however far, just plant in the, plant in the turf and come back straight. Get that PI. They should just literally have that be a play where you go 30 yards down the field, full sprint, boom, crush it back straight to the quarterback. You're going to be wide open. Do you feel like the Jets, the Cardinals and the Browns in particular, they're like teams? stuck inside of a maze and somebody hands on my map and the map is just gibberish there's like no path no like I don't see a clear path out for either of those I feel like ownership looks at the map and they're like no I can draw you I can draw you we don't need this we run professional football teams that we worked really hard to buy to be born into owning yeah

Well, that is going to do it. We'll wrap it up right there. We've got a couple great episodes coming up, a rookie review show. What in the world? What do you got? Did you see next Thursday? What they've come up with for us? Oh, why don't you just tell me what next Thursday is? Mock draft. Oh, baby. I love. Just the first round. Just the first round. I love it. Well, we'll see where we disagree there. But that'll do it for today's episode of the show. UltimateDraftKid.com. Also, don't forget YouTube exists. Al, send them some links. Stuff you're watching. We'll watch it together on next show. Take it easy, everybody. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join thefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers.