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Week 10 Matchups + Double Shame, Chase BOOM! | Fantasy Football 2024 - Ep. 1673

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Jamar Chase's huge Thursday turns the studio into a League of Record panic room; Brooks's mic status and the Wheel of Shame provide crew texture.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, that's unfortunate. But I don't want to, I'm not doing any. You cannot make me start Travis E.T. and Tank Biggs be Deerness Johnson. The Minnesota Vikings are one of the best of the best at stopping running backs, both in the passing game and the running game. You're going to be down. There's no world where I want to have a piece, you know, a shared committee piece of no fantasy points. And by the way, Papa Josh back in the building all episode long today. Well, so far. We'll see. I'm good. We'll see. The empty chair for the Falcon is known and we're happy to report not on a toilet. Might be on a toilet, but not because he's on a toilet. Yeah, he's out of office today. We think for some sort of travel. Not positive. Oh, he's blast enough.

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Tennessee, 2 and 6, Los Angeles 5 and 3, drafting sportsbook line, Los Angeles minus 7. This would be the Chargers. The over and under is just 39 points. Doesn't give the Titans a lot of points. Yeah, that's, I mean, we think we'll love us will be back out there. We don't know if they'll go Mason Reel off for another week. We've got an injured Tony Pollard. And we have Calvin Ridley with a DK receiving line of. Look, if you're the last man. Okay. Standing. You've got a shot. 31% target share since the week five by for Calvin Ridley. That's what you want. Yeah, since Hopkins has left this team, it's really made things nice for Ridley. And the rest of season, I think Ridley is a common, you know, must start type of player because you won't have consistency where every single week it's going to be great.

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But I do think the majority of his weeks will be very, very good. And in order to get those, you have to play him every week. So to me, he's just a starter. The Titans defense is doing the best it can do. But it's not, it kind of wears down over the course of the game. Now Dobbins. Man, this line, D.K.'s rushing line 64 and a half. He is averaging 19 opportunities a game. Yeah, I like him in this game because of the, of the fact that I think they'll be out and ahead. for the majority of the game. Were you surprised how high it was? Yeah, 64. I mean, he's, that's basically like a 50-50 shot of his box scores. And they're a pretty good, pretty good defense. The Titans, the Titans have played good defense most of the year. It really comes down in part to their opponents. You know, when they played Buffalo and Detroit, the last two of the last three weeks, they gave up.

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34 and 52 points. They break down eventually against these great defenses. If it's not, or great offenses, if it's not a great offense, it reminds me of the Giants defense. Like we all recognize the Giants defense has a lot of talent, but you just can't hold up. So the question is, because they can't hold, you know, they held up just fine against New England last week. They only gave up 17 points. They've held people to 20 or fewer points plenty of times when it's an average to below average offense. The question to me in this matchup is, Are the Los Angeles Chargers an above average offense or not? They've got Justin Herbert. They're letting him throw the ball more. Quentin Johnson has gotten involved. Ladd McConkey has been a great rookie wide receiver. But are they really a good offense or just or just average? They're weird. I think they're all right, man. 23 or more points in three of the previous four games. They are.

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Currently 24th in the NFL and points per game. That's not good. I mean, they had, like when they have a stinker, it's a stinker, you know, 10 points against Pitt, 10 points against the Chiefs. 23 point implied point total. What do you do with the wide receiver position? Obviously, they're at home. They're favored. We like Dobbins enough, I guess, or D.K does. O'clocky and Johnston. I think they are both playable. If I have to pick, I'm still going to go with Ladd McConkey. But. Quentin Johnston has it. You're on the McConkey side? Yeah, I'd be on the Johnson side. I'll take the target here. Yeah, the targets should be there for Ladd. Also, Legerius Sneed, I would guess he's more on Quentin Johnson than in the slot on Ladd. I guess I don't know for sure his health, but assuming that he's there, that leads me more towards Ladd. But it's just a, yeah, Sneed missed practice on Thursday.

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I love when defensive great players miss. Like all the defensive players, I'm never rooting for them to play. Yeah, I might try to avoid these guys. I don't think they're avoids. I mean, they're not consistent in a good matchup. And Tennessee is number one in the NFL against wide receivers in fantasy. Number one. Huh? Yeah. Number one. Where are you seeing that? On our website, Mike. The Fantasy Footballers.com. Tennessee is first against fantasy wide receivers on the season. Fantasy points given up. If you look at schedule adjusted, their third. Okay, that's where. But if you look at actual fantasy points given up, statistically, they are number one against wide receivers. Last six weeks has not been as good. And the combination of things haven't been as good for the Titans and with the evolving Chargers offense. I think they're both playable. Okay. Any other names here? Tony Pollard? Pollard is, will be.

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It'll be interesting to me of he hasn't practiced. This is what's been going on. He's not practicing. Then he goes out there and he's awesome. But at the same time, Tajay Spears has not been available for the Tennessee Titans. And Spears was a full practice on Thursday. So I wonder if they, is it possible that they take a different approach? Spears is a good player. I mean, when your backup option is Julius Chestnut, you're like, Good for Christmas. You just made that up, Mike. Good for Christmas time for you guys who are already in it. When that's the option. Yeah, one's roasting on an open fire. Tony Pollard is out there doing work. I just, I have a little bit of concern. But it's been a disappointing year for Spears. He did have 17 opportunities two weeks ago before the injury. And yeah, it's a fair question. With Pollard's injury and the difficult matchup, the, the chargers are top five against running backs. I think that Pollard is.

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He's gone from someone that has been a must start to, you know, like I would rather have J.K. Dobbins in this same game. Oh, yeah. What about Moster? I don't think I'd go down all the way to Moster. I would go Pollard, but Naji Harris, Chuba Hubbard, those type of players. Romandre? I've got them back to back of my rankings. Ramondre against Chicago. Who's ahead in the rankings? Eileen Romandre. I worry that they're going to give Pollard a little bit more rest if Spears is back. Obviously, if Spears, for some reason, after practicing in full doesn't play this week, then that would completely shift towards Pollard. The Philadelphia Eagles are six and two, the Dallas Cowboys, three and five. The games in Dallas, and boys, listen to this one. Philly minus seven and a half on the road. Overrunners 43 and a half that gives Dallas just 18 points at home.

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The DAC experience is over for maybe the rest of the season. For a while. And Mike now understands that meat is a muscle. I've heard. The last time that Dallas was a touchdown underdog at home was ironically when Cooper Rush was also a quarterback, their quarterback, and they actually won it. So we'll see what happens. Their defense this year is so bad. that it hurts. It hurts unless you're playing against it for fantasy. It hurts. I think Markley, Brown, Smith, Goddard. I think Micah's back. Ooh, that's a big deal. So look that up for sure because, you know, the last time when you talk about Cooper Rush won the game, they won the game, but they only gave up 17 points. And this defense against the Eagles, you don't expect that. I mean, right now the Eagles are implied for 25 and a half points.

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So Michael Parsons would make a big deal. He is planning on being back. I think they're expecting him back. So what are your new expectations for C.D. Lamb with the Cooper Rush offense for Rico Dowdle. Those are the only two players. I mean, Jake Ferguson, who's been disappointing. Ferguson has been disappointing on the season. It's tough to look back at the numbers because Cooper Rush, when he had his run, four and one as a starter for the Cowboys, that was two years ago. And it's, Like at that time, C.D. Lamb was. Is that the Schultz year? It was, but. Yeah, Dalton Schultz? But it was like, I think Schultz must have been injured because one of the games, Jake Ferguson actually did have a good game. But there was, like, it was a combination of him and Peyton Hendershot. Like, Ferguson wasn't the guy yet. So I don't know if we have strong evidence of what Cooper Rush will do. C.D. Lamb, meanwhile, was getting a very strong target share. And he was not, he was.

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He was great CDLAM at that time. He wasn't looked at as elite, you know, one of the top four, top three wide receivers in the league. So the injury to CDLAM's shoulder is a big time bummer. But if he's out there, I feel confident enough that Cooper Rush will hyper-target. Yeah, he will get enough targets. I think he'll get enough yards as well. I would be skeptical of him entering the end zone often while he's got Cooper Rush over the next month. But I'm still that I don't. believe that this is going to be a fall from grace like we saw with Tyree Kill where he went from very, very relevant to completely on, you know, just not helping you and actively hurting you on fantasy matchups. I don't think you're getting that from C.D. Lam, unless C.D. Lamb's injury knocks him out of the game. What about Rico? His D.K. rushing lands at 42 and a half. We know that the rushing is not where, or is not everything for Rico Dowto. He's been.

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getting tons of targets. So it's hard for me to say, but I like Rico Dattle's opportunity. I like what we're seeing in Rico Dattle. I think I'm going to recommend starting Rico Dattle often over the rest of the season. This isn't going to be one of those weeks. The Philadelphia Eagles defense has really stepped it up. I mean, when you adjust for schedule over the course of the season. They're number three against running backs, their top 10 against quarterbacks. They're number one against tight ends. I mean, they're actually, they started slow and they kind of sucked last year. And I think we need to quickly get on board with how good the Eagles defense has been. The encouraging part would be the six targets the last two weeks, but you've got to reset that with Cooper Rush. Yeah, we don't know what it'll be. It feels a little scary for sure.

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Monitor the Devante Smith hamstring news. We will keep an eye on it. We have an injury blitz podcast as part of the feature set at JoinThefoot.com. It comes from Matthew Betts, who is a licensed physical therapist and our injury expert, and he will commentate or he'll share his analysis of all the injuries heading into the weekend later this afternoon at Jointhefoot.com. The Jets at 3 and 6 traveled to Arizona to take on the... Cardinals who have won three straight games. Cardinals are five and four. What? And the DK Sportsbook line here now, it is moved. It's the Jets minus two. How dare you? You did open at Arizona minus one. Wow. Yeah, even worse. There's a lot of Jets. How dare you? A lot of Jets betting going on. The R runners 46 and a half. You know, the more relevant lines for how, well, I guess that's not always true, but.

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oftentimes the line that comes out when the week opens is more indicative of how Vegas sees the game as opposed to where it ends up sometimes because obviously the money's on the Jets in this one. One win for the New York Jets and everyone goes crazy. Yeah, they lost in New England the week before. Also, they have a very good chance to win this game. Yeah, they do. They do. You know, it's not, it's not going to be easy for the Cardinals secondary and defense to stop. the Garrett Wilson, Devante Adams combination. They are a schizophrenic defense. At times, they look incredible. They, you know, were able to go into Miami and slow down that offense. They were really good against Los Angeles, the Chargers, to sacking Justin Herbert. They added Baron Browning. You know, this should be, I think, a close game. You know, to have the line flip between teams.

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Jason, you brought up James Connor as your start of the week. He still leads the NFL in force miss tackles and was amazing last week. Breece Hall, you're going to start. Garrett Wilson, Devante Adams, you're going to start. I think the real question marks in this game revolve around both Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison, Jr. That, them independently for fantasy, the confidence level you have with Kyler, who, you know, last five games, three games inside the top 10, two games where he was abysmal. Yeah, it's brutal here for Kyler because it's the highs are fantastic. The highs are like, Kyla Murray really was a part of me winning this week. But then when it's low, it's not just, oh, I didn't get a game from Kyler. I lost actively because of Kyler. That puts you in a really bad spot here. Combined that with Marvin Harrison Jr. I mean, he's hot and cold just like Kyla Murray.

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but the DK reception line for him is at three and a half. Like that is... Holy moly. For a wide receiver one... Yeah. I mean, that's what Jonathan Taylor has this week. Right. Jonathan Taylor is at three and a half receptions. He's a running back. That is... So it's a really tough decision here. I think it is indicative of what you'll see as well. You've got Sauce Gardner and the Jets have a great pass defense. This is going to be tough sledding for Marvin Harrison. This is not a must bench situation because the highs are very high, not just for Kyler, but also for Marvin Harrison this season. However, I think there are plenty of other options out there that you might be looking at, you might have on your roster where you need to take an honest look and see if you're willing to start Marvin over them. Marvin is not an auto start. Marvin or Calvin Ridley? I would go Ridley.

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Marvin? That feels so bad. It does. Marvin or Hopkins against Denver? Hopkins easily. I'll give you one that I think sounds really gross. But if I had them, if I had both these rookies, I would play Brian Thomas Jr. against Minnesota over Marvin and this. And that's not saying like I would play Marvin Harrison over what we've seen from. Jalen Waddle or O'Donzee or, you know, I'm not just... All the bears? Well, all the bears, yeah. I mean, the bear. Did we mention the reception lines just three and a half? Yes. Yeah. Oh, that's very... Tank Dell. Your start of the week. Oh, Tank Bell. I'd go, tank. I would go, though. Especially with no Nico, of course. Khalil Shakir, the PPR machine. Shakira, Shakira.

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I think that goes Shakir. I think that one might be a matchup dependent. You know what I mean? Shakir feels like he has a higher floor, but he doesn't have the ceiling. Because you could still have, you could still. Shakira, Shakira. I love it. I thought you were like you were embarrassed that I did that. Oh, no. And instead you just, then you go right into it yourself. Like I, it's nice. It's fun to do the Shakira voice. Talk like that. Going back to Secura. Secura, yeah. No, I think we've exhausted Marvin Harrison. I expect a bounce back game from Breece Hall. DeAndre Swift had a good game. Devon A. Chan had a good game. More importantly, both of those players. Those are the last two opponents for the Arizona Cardinals. While the Cardinals won, both of those players had six receptions each, and that is kind of a calling card for Bruce Hall.

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The open field tackle rate for the Cardinals are not good. They're swarming right now. They're getting after it. But if you're just talking about one-on-one tackles against Brees Hall, this is a matchup where you could see a really big performance. And his DK receiving and rushing line is over 100 yards. I got there. You were fighting that. You knew what you wanted to say. And it's a good point. So we got Sunday night football, Monday night football. We'll talk about them momentarily. We'll take a quick break. You think we're going to run out of time for Wheel of Shame today? Yeah. If we're working on this to a crisp hour. We just got to give better analysis. Let's go back and talk about, because I don't think we cover Garrett Wilson, Devonte Adams. Let's talk about them for 15 minutes. We didn't mention that Garrett Wilson since week five is the wide receiver one. I mean, that's the dude. I need to eat a little bit of crow. Oh, Garrett? Yeah.

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Yeah, I need to, I need to, like I came out and I was pretty vehement about the fact that there's no way that Devante Adams doesn't hurt Garrett Wilson. But he did not hurt Gary Wilson. He helped. That's not been true. Yeah. Yeah, both of us were saying that. It definitely seemed like Garrett Wilson would be the number two in targets. When you look at expected fantasy points, not just what happened and what the result was, but based on targets, locations on the field, what the expected fantasy points would be. Right now, Garrett Wilson is ahead of Devante Adams in that number. That's the most surprising, I think, revelation. Does that stay? Yeah, I don't know what him getting integrated into that offense looks like, change the head coach, change of offensive coordinator. Because you saw Adams finally have a good week last week, which you would expect them to get better and better as they integrate into the offense. Yeah, I mean, he had a good week while Garrett Wilson is putting up one of the best catches of the season.

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Yeah, that was awesome. The Michael Jordan catch? That's all the time we have today. See you later, everybody. No, we have Sunday night football. We got the 701 lines against the six and three Texans. The drafting sportsbook line, Detroit minus three and a half. The overrunners 48 and a half. On the service seems like it might be pretty fun. We have Detroit, really the cream of the crop of the NFL, I think, right now. It's weird because I know that the chiefs have a better record, but they haven't looked. the way that the lines have looked. The Chiefs remind me a lot of the Philadelphia Eagles last year. The Eagles, I believe, were undefeated at 7 and 0. We're beating everyone, but you're watching these games. You're like, they don't look great. They are winning, and they're not a bad team, but they don't look great. Now, the Chiefs could get it together now that they've got Hopkins, and maybe they'll get some of their injured players back, you know, Pacheco and even Hollywood for the playoffs. But I agree with you.

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Detroit looks like the best overall team in the NFL. If the Ravens defense was better, they could contend. But the lions are right now, they feel just unstoppable. They also added a pass rusher. There's a Darius Smith coming over in the trade deadline. You know, the interesting thing about them is, well, one of the best offenses in football on a regular basis. They've won six straight games. Jared Goff is playing good football, Gibbs, Montgomery, Ammon Ra, always good starts. They do have players that are like, You know, Leporta and golf, golf middle of the pack, Jameson Williams, kind of hot and cold. Like, it's not a full every week start for those three players. No, no, it's not. I mean, Leporta is one of those guys that you could really, really, really look and say, do I want to start him or a Hunter Henry type of player? I think it's fair. I mean, if you aren't, if you aren't questioning.

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the, should I just auto start Laporta? You're making a mistake more often than you're not. Right now he's the tight end 15. And for reference, if you're the tight end, nine, you suck. So, I mean, he's been really, really bad. Not super involved. If you look at his since the buy week and some of these games were missing Jameson Williams, one target, two targets, six, okay, three targets. Those just aren't reliable. numbers. He's a talented player, but doesn't have the volume. I think, I hope you're not playing Sam Laporta this week and that you have a better option to pivot to. Or a better Otten. Oh, Otten is an easy end over Laporta. I, I've got guys like, like, you know, my start of the week, Hawkinson, where I feel like I would rather play Hawkinson than Laporta. This is also not an easy matchup. Texans are number two against tight ends on the course of the season. If you adjust for schedule, they're still top five. Would you go?

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Loporta or Jake Ferguson? With Cooper Rush, I think I'm going to stick with the team implied total. The thing with Loporta is one big play can make your day. You know, that's the hope. But it's a good point. It's also like I don't have Nico Collins anywhere, so I don't care if he plays or not. But I sure care about whether this is a great Sunday night football game and him being in the game would make a big difference. I'm not sure it really hurts Tank Dell and your start of the week if he's in there. You need to keep up with the Lions. And that's hard to do. I mean, Tank Dell's DK receiving line that's 64 and a half. That's nice. That's not bad. That's double digit fantasy points of three the last four weeks. Despite giving Jason grief for the quad down, I think that Tank Dell is a good play. Jamir Gibbs, just to share some analytics with you, number one in the NFL and average rushing speed, 13.45 miles an hour.

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Number one, in average yards before contact, number one in rush success rate, and number one in EPA, which is estimated, what, points added. So per carry. So he has been so electric. No one who has Gibbs is disappointed by him, but I think you're, you want so much more because, dude, it's Lamar Miller, man. Just let it be. Let it be what it is. The ride is wild. You look at the game lock. 16, 18, 12, 11, 22, 16, 18. It's beautiful. You watch the game. I have Gibbs. I've got Monty. You will not see him in a first quarter sometimes. The first drive, never. Never. The first drive belongs to my man David Montgomery. If Montgomery had both of his cleats came off, they put him out there barefoot on the first drive before putting Gibbs in there. They'd burn a time out. They'd say, David is our first drive guy.

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So it is frustrating. Gives is charging up in that time. Is that what he's doing? Oh, yeah. I literally think it might be one of those things where they're thinking we want someone to go and hit the defense. Like physically, we want to tenderize the meat. We want to tenderize the meat for Gibbs. And it's working. Not only has Gibbs been consistent. And it's frustrating because you're not getting more. But I was surprised today. I looked at, I was looking at the running back on the season. Who's the best running on a point? per game basis. Because some guys have missed games like Joe Mixon. Some guys have had bye weeks like Barkley and others have played the whole season so far. And the numbers get out of whack. But Jamir Gibbs right now is the number five running back. He's top five in points per game because they've already had their by week. He's just been outstanding. And goodness, if David Montgomery goes down to injury, I mean, he'll be the number one back. Joe Mixon has been darn near the number one back in football.

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His fantasy finishes, other than the game he got banged up in, he's top 12 every week. Yeah, he's been amazing. They're so committed to giving him the ball that it feels like you can survive with the inefficient game, which he might have in this one. Yeah, I expect him to have one, but, you know, I just talked about gives being number five in points per game. Mixing is number three in points per game. He's been absolutely outstanding. He's at yards per carry is not everything, but he's at 4.8 right now. which the highest mark of his career by far was his sophomore year at 4.9. Everything else is like 4.1 or lower. It's like to be this far. Have you seen Jason? He's lost like 47 pounds. Sometimes you peak the older. Maybe. Yeah. Sometimes you just wait till mixing in his 40s. Sometimes you do. But for running backs in the NFL, this is. Jason and the running backs are not a perfect comp? Well, no.

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That's more of an offensive lineman. No, it's, it's an incredible year. I understand what you're saying, but he also is a perfect fit for this offense. And this game will be fun to watch because they're wearing those cool red jerseys. Yeah, there's not much to decide here. I think the only questionable thing of like, do I really start or sit outside of Sam Laporta? Is Jameson or? Are the quarterbacks. Oh, I got you. Stroud and golf. And, nah. I know, I'm kind of nana now on those two. It's not a great week for quarterback. But I'd, you know, I'd rather play Darnold. I'd rather play. Would you rather, here's a wacky question. Would you rather play Mahomes? Yeah. Really? That one I'm not sure on. Stroud or golf? Either. Who would you rather play with those two? I blame Mahomes over golf. Golf freaks me out, man.

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Golf can win 52 to 7 and he could throw over like 90 yards. I'd play Aaron Rogers over both of them. I agree. Yeah, that's a good point. We got a couple of quarterbacks in this one to talk about Miami 2 and 6, Los Angeles 4 and 4, the draft king sports book line here. At home, the Rams. Breaking news. Please be that Nico Collins has been activated. Nico Collins has been designated for a return. I needed it. Okay, CJ spells back in. Well, that almost timed up with our matchup exactly. I didn't see the news. So I genuinely. Brooks just posted it. I was a fish looking at a delicious lure. And I was going to eat. I wasn't sure if there was a hook in there or not. But I'm going for it. I'm eating the heck out of it.

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who he has been designated to return slash returns to practice and we have made another roster move that's from the Houston Texans well that that's great because you know what for mixing to score touchdowns they're going to need to move beyond their own 30 yard line this is good for Sam Laporta this is good for James and Williams this is good for the Detroit Lions offense where it's like they're not going to just run the ball if the Texas can't score the Texans aren't the same without Nico and it's nice to have them back That is big time news. Miami 2 and 6, Los Angeles 4 and 4. The Rams at home. One point favorites over under is 50. That's a lot of points. Very excited about what we're getting on Thursday and Monday this week. Miami and the Rams with a 50 point over under outstanding. Lots of fantasy relevant players. Puka. Cooper Cup. Kyron. You know, you said you're kind of out on Matthew Stafford. I don't know why I keep returning to him this week with a little bit of.

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