Week 10 Matchups + Double Shame, Chase BOOM! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/8

to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. That was way too much extra joy. Oh, I feel about 53.9 points worth of extra joy this fine, a morning. Me, you're over there. acting like you had both Burrow and Chase. No, which I didn't. I didn't. I only had Chase. I'm out of here. You guys suck. Over here in our main dynasty league, Mike's rocking the stack of Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase. And over in League of Record former champ, Andy Hollowake was gifted Jamar Chase in a trade that just showed up in his inbox for basically Amari Cooper in garbage. And so, yeah, it's a good day to be you guys.

It's a bad day to sit between you. Yeah. And I can tell you right now as I slide over to Deucer's alley, there's a man in a black hat in the shadows just miserable. Just miserable over there. Am I right now? Yeah. I mean, fortunately, I didn't have to play against either borough or chase. I did do that. I did that check in my other leagues this morning. Yeah. The very scary click into each league to see if I played Burrow Chase or Lamar. That's what, I mean, I literally, I tweeted this out, but it was, it wasn't a joke. I was afraid to open the sleeper app and scroll through my teams because I wasn't sure. Which games are over. Yeah, exactly. I was like, oh, gosh, did I, because I don't have Jamar Chase. I have him in our, in our family league, which, you know, is probably our, I mean, we kind of don't care about that. But.

All the other leagues that I'm in, I, um, Jeremy just came on set and put Jamar Chase down. Oh, man. But I don't have them anywhere. So I knew there's a good chance I'm playing against him somewhere. Happy to report. Your weeks aren't over. I can still play this week. Look, I know not everybody's happy because a lot of you played against them. And we got everything we wanted on Thursday night football, 35, 34, Ravens over the Bengals, face masks. They can't call them in the last 30 seconds of a game. You know, I saw someone, I saw someone tweet this out and it's, um, it's legitimate. I wonder. You know, the going for two to win the game at the end, do you factor in that they're like calling those plays like a Hail Mary? You know, like they should not be. They shouldn't. It's a, that is a play where you shouldn't just be able to go like, Hulk smash everybody.

on the play but that's kind of what happened and and i also at the same time i do understand that like you don't want the refs to be the reason for the last play so you know swallow close call whistles there but i don't know how close call those were no you can't you can't just if you start to play with any of those mindsets i'm going to let things go i'm going to call it too tight you've already lost like you you need to call the play the play you need to get rid of the context and just call it and now we've seen not going for two you're lost going for two you lost like you we just saw there's a tampon on monday night football right like you condemned for not going yeah i don't blame them for i don't condemn them at all i think it was a penalty i think it was a bad call i also think that one play doesn't define the whole game and we we just have to live with what it was maybe stop

you know, Baltimore Ravens from scoring 28 in the second half. There was a holding penalty called, you know, on Jamar Chase early in the game in the end zone that was. Oh, yeah, that was not very bad. That wasn't real. So, you know, they're going to get it wrong. Going for two was the, that was the right call. I mean, it's like, think of the, the conversion rate of a two point conversion, you know, it's like, it's right around 50%. And then if you go into overtime and a tie, flipping a coin. About 50%. And if you lose that, whoever got the ball was winning the game. Because defenses could, the defense was done. Definitely a crazy night. I hate losing a game not throwing it to my best player. I think that was part of my criticism of the play. I know that you're going to get a lot of coverage on Jemar Chase, but I really hate losing throwing it to.

a tight end, like the catch percentage of targeting him there. I just don't know. But Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, amazing. Yeah. Derek Henry got in the end zone. Yeah, it was fine. Mostly stifled on the ground, but gotten to the end zone. I think a big storyline is Chase Brown. However, I do think this was more a product of the defense that the Baltimore Ravens chose to play in this game. They ridiculously, they simultaneously played a defense exclusively built to stop Jamar Chase. and failed at that and gave up the underneath all game long. Nine receptions for Chase Brown. So if you had Chase in your name, you put up a big night. It was a very good game for him. And then on the other side, best game of the year for Mark Andrews, six for 68 and a touchdown looked like vintage Andrews. And it's not a surprise you needed to do it when you're in a game that's got 69 points. And likely, yeah, exactly. I feel like he should really just.

You know, probably go on IR, rest that hamstring. Likely? Likely should just really take the rest. Save yourself for the playoffs. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're your playoff bound. You're a Super Bowl contender. Why don't you let the old guy get the wear and tear? Exactly. Come back in week 18 for a little bit of, you know, reps before the playoffs. But, you know, just get healthy likely. And just two targets for Deontay Johnson in this game. Not very involved yet. for those monitoring that. And I just, look, this is not a sponsor comment at all. People thought it was. I just want to say this because maybe it will be aspirational for other networks. Oh, yeah. I saw your tweet. It's true. Dear goodness, the NFL looks good on Prime. It is like you bought an upgraded graphics card for the NFL every week that I turn it on. I cannot believe how crystal clear and amazing the production is. And I hope.

we move our way up on the other networks. I think it's objectively superior. The other game modes as well or whatever they call them, the streams where they can... Their version of the All-22 is like the X-ray or X-ray. Yeah, I think that's it. I mean, they just have the technology where it needs to be. Which we do know this. Like we've sat down with them before in years past just talking to them about the NFL. And... We know how much effort they put into it. When you turn the TV on in this day and age, and you can be like, oh, my gosh, those jerseys. I don't know. Oh, my goodness, those Ravens jerseys. It was just crystal clear. I don't know. They got some kind of special technology. Can we get those cameras? Can we get them in the studio? I think it's all system. Just the infrastructure for the stream. I guess we wouldn't want those.

cameras in this studio because we look oh no no i want to i want to gosgen blur yeah we need that soap opera filter over here can we blur this a bit we we do better with the blur um so the game was not great for everybody uh sticky gisicky was icky at four for 30 the right answer was tanner hudson at the tight hip position who was six for 42 and a score and somehow zay flowers was four for thirty four And like this was the old school Zay Flowers. I'm not worried about it at all, but just it was frustrating of Zay Flowers is so good. Like his talent level to me is absolutely off the charts to the point of his plays are so impactful that in my head, I'm like, oh wow, Zay Flowers is having a great game.

And then you get into the fourth court and you look at the numbers. You go, oh, no, he is not. Well, a lot of the passing yardage that came late when they were going back and forth, taking leads, getting them back. You know, there was an 84-yard touchdown to Thailand Wallace, whoever that is. And it was, you know, that takes a drive away from Zay Flowers. Andrews was more involved. But, yeah, I don't think you go away from him. No, no, no. You just are sad. I mean, I was hungry for more. Now I'm starving for more Zayflowers. Yeah, it's a little bit like the situation with Chase last week with Burrow. He threw five touchdowns, none to Chase. This week, four touchdowns for Lamar, none does Zayflowers and bet on good players. Yeah, they'll work out in the end. I'm not complaining about Chase no more. Mike has been the experienced Chase manager. In all the years of Chase's career, I play seven, eight leagues a year. I have never had Jamar Chase on my team.

And so I added him a couple weeks ago, just crafted a beautiful trade, the best trade. No, I did the best. It was a really good trade for him. And I hadn't gotten this game yet, Mike, and ooh, it's sweet. It is amazing. And the- Ooh, so good. This is the first time that I can remember that, like, I won on a Thursday. I have lost so many times on Thursday night, and it is the worst feeling. Brooks, do you, how do you feel? How you feel, Brooks? Yeah. All right. Yeah. That's funny. He won't even chime in. I saw Nathan Yonke tweet out the complete list of multiple 260-yard receiving games in NFL history is Jamar Chase. That's the only player who's ever done. You know, I bet I was just so disappointed. His third touchdown wasn't over 40 yards for the bonus. What a bummer. It's Friday. Put Clan Friday.

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Is Brooks actually not on a mic where he can be recorded? Or is he, was he just dead silent out of, because he's, he's, he's dead. It's both. He can be recorded. His, his mic, I mean, he's just on like his laptop microphone. So the audio would be terrible. Identical to Jim Lovell from Apollo 13 when he was calling Houston. Yes. You know what I mean? Back in the 60s. How are you doing, Brooks? All right. There he is. People do want to know that Brooks is alive and well. Well, he was. Here lies Brooks. But no, Brooks, you'd be happy to know. People have been asking about you. They want to know, you're not here in studio with us, and they want to know you're doing well, and you're still with us. And you are doing, you're still with us. Right. I'm here not doing well. Okay. There you go. Well, you know, you do have a 15 and 3 team.

in our dynasty. Yeah. So congrats on. Oh, yeah. You will be getting a four next to that three this week, at least. Okay. Let's go ahead and blitz through this news so we can get back into the matchups. Kyle Shanahan said he expects McCaffrey to play. Technically limited on Thursday, as was Joanne Jennings and Debo Samuel. For what it is worth, not that anyone is benching Chris McCaffrey. I've got him. I'm overexposed to McCaffrey, but he's going in everywhere. But we did have, so Matt, I apologize. I don't know if it's barrels or borrows, but he's a writer for the athletic covers the 49ers. And he did like a mailbag. And his expectation of work was he thinks about, he thinks McCaffrey will be about a sweet 55% of the work. And Mason will take about 40%. And to that, I say, I don't believe you. Oh, I do.

I've been so firmly on that side. Was he also part of the beat reporters that said he's fine for week one? That I don't know. I'm not trusting anybody in San Francisco. That's my point. I just don't. If I was San Francisco, that would be the ratio I would use. I'll put it that way. But again, if you have McCaffrey, it's happening. Fire him up. Yeah. So Amari Cooper Limited Keon Coleman has been ruled out. Maybe Amari Cooper can make an impact. I don't know. Probably won't put a chase numbers. Drake London, Kyle Pitts, limited on Thursday, monitored both of those. Those are looking a little bit spicier and more doubtful to me. You know, early in the week, there was some positivity and it's gotten a little bit worse. I've seen limited. It's not a d-nip. Yeah, a little dice here. Michael Pittman remains sideline on Thursday. I think he's out of lineups for us regardless. This one is.

Well, it's not a regardless, because with Flacco and Michael Pittman is someone, a healthy Michael Pittman, someone I would like to play. But the way that it has been working for his, what are you making that face for? I don't know that you're just saying that maybe you stay away from the potential accidental pain. No, I'm saying even if he's healthy. I mean, the last couple games that he's, I mean, the last game with Joe Flacco was terrible. The three before that, he was over double digit points. Um, I don't believe that that is true. He looking at his game log. He had three games in a row that were over double digit. Those were all in those were flat. But this is also a poor matchup. Um, you know, their top five Buffalo against wide receivers. So I'm just saying even if he's healthy, I would rather go somewhere else. But my point was going to be this has been hit. The cadence for Pittman has been don't practice Wednesday. Practice on Thursday. So this is concerning that he'll even be out there. We have news that, um,

Baker Mayfield is going to play. Jeline McMillan, Sterling Shepard. They practiced today, I think. I'm getting conflicting news. So here's what happened. I thought McMillan practiced. Yeah, he did. He did not. So I went to their official. What happened was yesterday mid-show, we were wondering if he was practicing. And we had reporters taking photographs. He was out there at practice. So he was in pads. He had his helmet in his hand. So he was there. But on the official report this week from the team, He was listed as a full D&P. But then he practiced today. McMillan, Shepard, Whitehead, Gaines, all practice today. Friday. So Thursday and Wednesday was full DnP. The Evans likely to be ruled out today. All I'm saying is is that, like, if they're out there's an opportunity with how Baker's still in the football, you know, for a spot start. Darius Slateen ruled out. Jonathan Brooks questionable. We expect Jonathan Brooks to make his debut. Mike, would you like to publicly apologize to London, England today?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so sorry, London. It's funny, in the morning, I even corrected someone before the show. You did. Like, no, it's not in London. It's in Germany. And then, I don't know. I told London to eat it, which actually, no, I stand by that. Just in general? I stand by that in general of England. It's the worst apology I've ever heard. Well, I realized I don't have to apologize to England ever. Oh, okay. Ever. Really? Yeah, you tea drinkers. But now Germany. Eat it. You got to eat it. I'm sorry. And by eat it, we do mean watch the Carolina Panthers play football. 100%. And pay for it. We saw A.J. Brown move to a full practice on Thursday. That's big news. Devante Smith Limited on Thursday with a hamstring.

Is this the first? You've heard of that? Yeah, I had not. Last week he missed all of practice for personal reasons. The hamstring was a newer issue that popped up. So it's a little concerning, but he was still practicing. AJ Brown practicing in full was really surprising. I had a full expectation he misses. All this I think is pretty good news, obviously for Jalen Hertz. Well, Dallas Goddard's practicing in full. Tony Pollard, who did not practice on Thursday this week or last week. He didn't even practice on Friday last week and then played on Sunday. We're monitoring that. And Jason, Nico Collins remains sidelined on Thursday. It's all part of the plan. They want to make sure. Special Agent Oso over here. They need him to be healthy. And so let's just not run him until Sunday is my hope. I mean, honestly, today is going to be everything. I can't imagine he plays in the game if he's a D&P on Friday.

If he does play in the game and he doesn't practice all week, he will be in my lineup. Yeah, but it's Sunday night. And I think we'll know before Sunday morning. I don't think you will. Listen, you have. Kill me! That's what we were waiting for. Here's your game playing. He was trying so hard. I'm fine over here. Demarcus Robinson should be your backup. If you want to ride dirty. Oh, that's a good plan. If you want to ride dirty on Sunday night, get DeMarcus Robinson for the Monday night game for the Rams, who's been playing good football in a game that could be a back and forth affair. That would be my emergency play. You need to have a plan if you're trying to get anything. Unless we get news today. Maybe we get news today that he's officially out. And you don't have to think about it. Yeah. What if you don't have DeMarcus Robinson available or another pivot option? Correct.

Well, let's think about that game. Tank Dell, probably not going to be able to get him. I've got Jalen Waddle, so he'll be my... Yeah, there you go. Yeah. All right. That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com slash insurance. We'll take a break. We'll jump back into the week 10 matchups. I had no clue there was so much emotion in fantasy football until today. You know what I mean? I don't... I believe is it today is it Friday that they've got to be activated? It is right. No, I know, but they've got to be activated from the IR in order to play. So I think we've got a couple more hours to find out if Nico's going to play or not. Whoever's out there, vet that for me. But I think we will know whether he's activated off the IR, and they're not going to activate him off the IR to not have him play this week. That makes sense. Hopefully you get that news today. I have to. It's time for Fantasy Forecast, presented by Draft King Sportsbook.

All righty, the Giants, Panthers in Germany. We covered it yesterday, the Patriots, Bills, Bills, Colts, Bills, Colts, Bills, Colts, Broncos, Chiefs, Falcon Saints, 49ers, Buccaneers. We covered all those games on yesterday's show. So if you want those breakdowns, just click on yesterday's episode. You can go through those. Today we're going to start with the Steelers at 6 and 2 and the 7 and 2 Washington commanders. Both teams have the rarity of... Tremendous success with a defensive-minded head coach. That has not been a common theme in recent years. Drafking supporters book, Washington, minus three at home. The overrunners 45. This is a fun one. Yeah, it really is. You've got two good defenses, or at least the Steelers are a good defense, and that's coming up against Jaden Daniels and the amazing unstoppable offense so far of the commanders. I don't know how much.

you're going to be able to rely. Like the Steelers get to play Lamar Jackson twice a year, 40 years. I think of all the defenses that Jayden Daniels is going to play against, this is one that is a little bit more prepared for it. If that makes sense. I can see what you're saying. Stylistically. Yeah, it's hard to prepare. There's, there's. Until Jaden Daniels, there's no one like Lamar. Like even great mobile rushing quarterbacks, Jalen Hurst, Josh Down, they're just not like Lamar in how he runs, when he runs. But I feel a lot of similarities with Jaden Daniels in when they choose to run and how they run. So I do think I do think the experience here helps. That's an interesting little storyline. What else is interesting is the interesting is the.

The Steelers defense is third in the NFL and points given up. The commanders are third in the NFL and points scored per game. So you have a really good offense and a talented defense. The commander's defense has been pretty good over the last six weeks at stopping opposing players from scoring fantasy points. Second against. quarterbacks, second against wide receivers. They've become a little bit more of a run funnel, difficult to throw on, which is surprised it got harder. Yeah, I mean, Marshawn and Latimore being a part of this offense now, our defense, they're just going to continue to improve. And that's where you have an effective offense. Cliff Kingsbury is the head coach or the offense. Like Dan Quinn doesn't touch that. And Dan Quinn's a defensive minded head coach that's had so much success in Dallas in recent years. I mean, I don't know. Has that been a storyline?

His departure from Dallas and their deterioration is a defense. I mean, this should be a fun game. Russell Wilson gets a new weapon in Mike Williams. I don't know if he's going to be active this week, but he will be a part of future game plans for this offense. Najee Harris has been a top 13 running back in three straight weeks. And I expect it to continue. He's averaging 20 opportunities a game. What I just said, they're turning into a run funnel. You're still able to run on them. They're just a middle of the pack defense against the run. So that will be, I think, a big game plan for the Steelers. The Steelers defense on the year schedule adjusted six against wide receivers. They've been very good. The last six weeks and fancy points allowed, though, it slowed down. Terry McLaurin sitting at wide receiver six on the year. DK has the his receiving line at 58 and a half yards. Feels a little.

low for what you want from someone who's the wider super six on the season. I think it's just indicative of that this is not an easy matchup for him. The over under in the game's 45. Brian Robinson has a limited practice on Wednesday. I think he'll be back out there. He's a tough. I think he's like the hard start of this. Like if he goes. He's been so good. He's been yes. He has scored a lot of touchdowns. Which, I mean, that's a product of this offense. Are you saying you would or wouldn't play him? I feel like I would get him in the lineup. I would try, yeah. I think I would, yeah. Just the way that it's trended with his injury, it's concerning. Jaylon Warren has yet to hit eight fantasy points. Are we keeping them on the sideline of our lineups until we get a good game? Yeah, I think so. I mean, he was a waiver pickup that's like you can flex him, but you're not getting a lot of points. He hasn't hit double-digit fantasy points this season.

And this isn't like some incredible matchup where the, you know, you want him in a situation where you're playing a team that gives up pass catching to the running back because that's really his where he's going to eat in this offense. George Pickens, it's a tough matchup based on how the commander's devens has played over the last six weeks. I know you guys both like Pickens. Do you have hesitation here? I hate the matchup, but it's a full go. Yeah, I mean, he's been like, so we have what, two games with Russ where? You know, five for 111, a score against the Jets, four for 74 against the Giants. So it's, the matchup, you know, a month ago looked far juicier than it does today. But he's still a Pickens is in every week play for me. Zacherts only had one reception last week. He would be an emergency. If he needed. Yeah, tied in. Minnesota is six and two. They take on Jacksonville, two and seven.

One thing we didn't mention was any update to the Trevor Lawrence situation for Jacksonville. The DK Sportsbook line in this game, by the way, Minnesota minus seven on the road over under's 44. It was minus four. So Vegas confirms Mac Jones is going to be playing football. Mac Jones is worth negative three points. That's a lot. Yeah, one hour ago, Doug Peterson said it's trending for Trevor Lawrence not to play Sunday versus the Vikings. Jacksonville is, I think, statistically, one of the best matchups you can have in fantasy for every position. For all of them, you adjust for schedule. They're 29th against tight ends, and that is their best score. I mean, they're 31st against wide receivers and running backs and dead last against quarterback. So whoever you want to start on the Minnesota Vikings side of the ball, you can. I think if you want to take a shot of, you know.

Jordan Addison is one of those guys. It's on your bench. You're not sure if you can't. Sometimes you can't. Okay. This is a matchup where he could get it done. I do think that the running game is especially because Trevor Lawrence isn't expected to play, and I don't think that Mack Jones is going to be able to keep up with the Minnesota Vikings. Whoa, hey, I'm just saying. If he is unable to keep up with the Minnesota Vikings defense, then the Vikings get out to a lead and it becomes the Aaron Jones show. So Justin Jefferson, you're going to start him. But I think that Aaron Jones is just such a great play this week. Yep. He is set up for success. Jefferson Jones, Darnold Hawkinson. Your start of the week at Tide Inn, I'm all about it. And Addison is a flex play. On the other side, fear and trembling. Yeah, what do you do? You have players that I think independent of injury situations, you would be scared out of your mind to play with Mack Jones. And now you have.

Brian Thomas Jr. still dealing with an injury. His rest of season outlook took a bit of a hit with this Lawrence News with the injury in recent weeks. ETN, Biggsby, even Ingram, who we know has that connection with Lawrence, little unsettling not to have Lawrence behind center, even for Ingram. It would really surprise me, though, if Mack Jones doesn't throw the ball to Evan Ingram a bazillion times. Yeah, Evan Ingram I'm 100% fine with. This could be the backup narrative where all of a sudden it becomes a Parker Washington game who's played more snaps with, you know, with the backup quarterback. But Brian Thomas Jr. is not a must bench to me. This is a matchup where, you know, they're going to. They're going to need to throw him. But he's, he's in one of those considerations now where you look at your bench and you say, I've got another good option or I don't. Did you say they're going to throw to him or throw him? They're going to. Like are they going to literally? I think they, I think they're going to throw near him.