But I can see the path. People see it with Arizona's offense, and I think for good reason. I mean, this is a top five scoring offense potentially this year. So. Yeah. James Conner's only 26. Does that surprise you? Do you know they're a year apart? Yeah, it does. Because he doesn't look like it anymore. I mean, unless you're talking injuries or whatever happened last year. Conner's two full seasons removed from his.
ADP Price Check + Professional Hedging, Dynasty Download - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/29
ADP Price Check + Professional Hedging, Dynasty Download - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/29
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136 passagesmeeting fantasy expectations. Is that a fair way to put it? Well, running back 26 last year at the end of the season, and I don't have the numbers in front of me, but before he got hurt, he had finished outside of the top 30 just three times. And he was very good for fantasy football last year through week 11. Hey, man, as a Cardinal fan, I'm down. If you want to tell me both players are talented, I'm fine with that.
Uh, let's go with, uh, Will Fuller. Will Fuller right now, ADP price check. Yeah. The answer is too late. Yeah, he is. It's too late. And it, it probably matches my ranking of him, which is too low, too low. Too late and too low. Uh, because everyone's too scared and too, uh, is causing a problem. You're right. I'm too well scared. So where do you think he's actually going? I think he's probably going in the, uh, oh, he's going late, man. Yeah.
I'll go. Ninth round? I'll say eighth round, ninth round. Yeah, I agree. 8.10 is where I'll go. Oh, man. That sounds really spot on. It sounds stupid. I'm going to go 902 and I'm going to die. I'm going to die over here. What is going on? I don't know. Too much suns. Ah, okay. You were. Mike, final answer? Where are you going? I'll go one. Price is right over Jason. So 903. Was he 902? Okay. All right, 903. He is going.
It's 7.09. Oh, okay. Okay. So I guess I won. Yeah, you did. Wide receiver 32 off the board. Set in the league on fire. Number five most consistent wide receiver last year with... He will miss week one. Yes. Yes. Which will mean he will go later. Or, you know, it's a reflection of him going later here. 11 games last year, 879 and 8. Doesn't get to play with Deshaun Watson, but super talented player.
This is a call your shot breakout offense moment. Because what's going to happen here is it's a nebulous wide receiver core. You have Devante Parker. You've got Will Fuller. You've got Mike Gassickey. You've got Jalen Waddle. They're high-end draft pick. Because you don't know who it's going to be as the wide receiver won, most people completely stay away. Hua for Tua? I keep hearing it. Oh, come on. That did it. Come on. That was great. Did you say you don't know whoa?
Yeah, because he's saying you don't know who it's going to be. Oh, come on. That's a passing grade. Let's see here. Oh, man. I'll give it a five. Really? Is that a pass? Do you have a 10? It's, yeah. So it's one to nine. That's a pass. A four. I'm out of here. Oh, man. If the Suns hadn't just won that NBA, that game last night, you'd be in a bad mood, huh? But here's the thing.
A lot of times when you're looking for a late round breakout player, you want a nebulous situation. You want a place where it's not clear who the star is going to be. Will Fuller when he's been on. Stefan Diggs last year. When, when, well, Stefan Diggs was brought in to be the guy. You didn't know if he was going to be good. But the situation wasn't like, is it going to be Cole Beasley? Is there going to be Stefan Ditt? You knew it was going to be Diggs. Well, who do you think, who do you think it's going to be in Miami? Well, I'm just saying it could be Devante Parker. It could be Jalen Wall. I don't think I think we.
I think it's very fair to say that Will Fuller is the best most experienced wide receiver they have. He is without a doubt the best most experienced wide receiver. We had lots of reasons to doubt Diggs, right? We had these arguments to doubt Diggs coming in. Multiple years in Minnesota where he was putting up lower production, never going to get it, never going to have the volume. The argument against Diggs last year, at least was 100% related to the offense and the quarterback.
Which is the same situation. Yeah. So this is a bet on Will Fuller is a great bet for someone who believes in Tua. If you think that Tua has it, he was, you know, the tanking for Tua was just a couple years ago where he was the superstar future generational player for some NBA NFL franchise. And, you know, and so if you still believe in Tua, then you've got to draft Will Fuller. Agreed. But I don't believe in Tua.
Yeah, I believe in what they've built. And I believe they put him in a position where much like, I don't know, even like Taysam Hill had great success in a system with a great coach in New Orleans last year, Tua has everything around him to succeed. And I believe he can do enough at the NFL level to have that breakthrough type of season. I think that you watched the highlights of Tua last year. He had eight or nine.
deep passes that were on the money, and you had drops from Jakeem Grant, you had drops from some of these weapons he was throwing the ball to, and that's been remade. So I do believe. I guess you're right. I guess I'm going to call my shot with Will Fuller and say that from a value standpoint, I think it can really happen. And I think they're the best team in the division or up there. Really? Better than the bills? I think they'll compete with the bills. I'll put it that way. That's fair. I think the bills are the incumbent, but I think it'll be a battle between those teams.
You know, the Jets obviously run away with it. We got it. I was just kidding. Yep. I've moved Will Fuller up. Yeah. I will be doing this. 35. Okay. Yeah. And that's, the thing is, is what you can get for what you will pay is how you win in fantasy. And if you're drafting him.
at the end of the 7th, early 8th round for what you could get, which is you could get in every week starter in Will Forl. You could get a top 15 wide receiver. Will Fuller has the skills, and if Tua takes that step forward, it's done. And you don't, you know, you're not spending a lot. So. All right. Let's go to Joe Burrow, because I've seen some rumors on Twitter lately or conjecture, hope, optimism. I'm not sure what it was.
of the breakout season for Joe Burrow, right, for fantasy purposes. He's our QB18. You know, ranking quarterbacks is, it's a tough business when it comes to, you know, you've got to put them in a linear order and you're not going to necessarily, even if you see a path for Burrow, you're not going to rank him necessarily as a top 12 player because other players have done it. And so, or you like a Jalen Hertz more or you like a Justin Herbert more.
Or guys just not coming off a catastrophic knee injury. If you don't like that sort of thing, maybe he's lower. It's not my favorite. But, you know, my argument when I brought Jamar Chase up as my breakout on this show was what has been true of Taylor every single year there, which is, it doesn't matter if it's Andy Dalton or Joe Burrow the rookie. He's going to throw the football 40 times a game. You have three great wide receivers. You have a good pass catching running back.
So all that to say, where do you think he's going? And do you see a breakout as one of the possible outcomes for Joe Burrow? Yeah, he's got to be going in the double-digit rounds. I think he's going to be round 11. I'll go 12. I'm going to go 11-11 and put myself in the worst possible prices right rule. But that is my favorite number. Yeah, 12th sounds fine. He's a quarterback.
9-07. Okay. Quarterback 11. Brooks is shaking his head going like he knew he had us on that one. That's why he's in here. That's why you saw that number and you said, wow. Yes. So the breakout is being predicted. So through his healthy games, you know, the nine games that he was before the knee injury, he was on pace, a 17 game pace granted, but he was averaging over 40 attempts a game.
but he was on base to throw the ball almost 700 times for nearly 4,700 yards. Now, the touchdown pace was bad, but rookie quarterback, I mean, 3.2% of your attempts of turning in touchdown, that's way below the league average. He can, Joe Burrow should easily get up to at least the average. So the question for Burrow, to me, is just, it's health. And I don't think that we don't know yet. I tell you he's healthy. I tell you he's healthy, though.
I give you the bona fide Joe Burrow of last year shows up week one. And you add Jamar Chase. But you can't because Joe Burrow in week one ran eight times for 46 yards. Like Joe Burrow is not doing that this year. At least the first month or so. He said he's giving you a good health. No, but Mike's right. I mean, even if you say he's not going to get re-injured, you are taking, like Carson Wins came back from the ACL. And he didn't run the same. Okay.
Jason's UDK projections, his actual numbers on Joe Burrow have the Bengals with the third most total plays in the NFL. Makes sense. And Burrow with the fourth most attempts and completions. And I have him as my quarterback 16. Hey, you're the most. Which I really like that ranking. I think that that's fine for Joe Burrow. If Joe Burrow was truly not injured, if he finished out the season, it was coming in.
to this year. I would probably have him in my top 10. I do expect him to get off to a slow start. It's a guy who loves Jamar Chase right there. Yeah, it is. It's a guy who loves Jamar Chase is a heck of a lot more than AJ Green. That's for sure. 104 worthless targets thrown in AJ Green's direction. But yeah, I mean, there's a good wide receiver core, a bad defense there. Offensive line is improved, but the reality is for fantasy at quarterbacks.
I don't expect him to run the ball a lot, especially the first half of the season. And if that's the case, it's going to take one of his strengths, one of his added, you know, at least Alex Smith level baselines of rushing, prime Alex Smith, not post-leg injury, Alex Smith, you know, the old Aaron Rogers baseline where you're running for 350 yards. I just don't see that necessarily in that first half of the year. So he's a guy that I've been passing whenever.
I have the opportunity to draft him, and apparently if he's going, you know, in the ninth round, I'm fine leaving a draft with Joe Burrow. 100% fine. But in my world, that's because I took him super late in a league that didn't really care about Joe Burrow. And, you know, he's my, he was the 15th quarterback taken and he's in the 13th round. And you're streaming. Yeah, exactly. Six of his 10 games, he threw one or fewer touchdowns. Like, the touch, you just have to hope you don't have a Matt Ryan situation here.
Yeah, I mean, he was a rookie. Jamar Chase is going to help. Jamar Chase will help. You would say Julio Jones would should help Matt Ryan throw. Yeah, but I just don't think it's a fair comparison. One half of a season into Burroughs life. I'm not calling a shot on. I'm just saying that that's. You just called him Joe Ice. Joe Ice that knee up. Three games with zero passing touchdowns, three games with one passing touchdown. Like that, if a quarterback puts up 250 and one.
They have bombed your weak. Like they have actively hurt your fantasy monster. Certainly. Certainly. All right. Let's do a dynasty download. Dynasty Download. Troutman now. That one was great. And if you're listening to the show, the graphic keeps changing for this dynasty download. And today was Jay Gris was the centerpiece. Yeah. Surrounded by five trout and one troutman. That's pretty good. All right.
This is a dynasty riser here in our dynasty download segment. Trey Lance, 21 years old, 49ers, rookie quarterback. Since early May, which was the draft, he's slowly risen in Dynasty 1 QB. Startup drafts. Where are you right now with Trey Lance? You know, I'm on record saying I don't think he's going to see time this year. Not much of it.
I know you guys both like him. Yeah. For fantasy football, I am all in. I pushed my chips all in in our dynasty, in our rookie draft. What do I take at 107? I took him at 107. I took him before Trevor Lawrence. He is so young. And if you've been following the show for the offseason, I'm very skeptical of Trey Lance actually making the jump to being a professional quarterback.
But the decision makers in the NFL for San Francisco, they mortgaged everything. I mean, multiple first-round picks to move up and take Tray Lance to be the future of the 49ers. So for dynasty purposes, because we're in the dynasty download, I am all in. This is another quarterback that will likely run for, he'll be challenging Lamar Jackson for who's going to have the quarterback rushing title of the season.
Trey Lansk can easily hit the 1,000 rushing yard mark, and then surrounded by the talent of Debo Samuel, Iyuk, and George Kittle, of just these yak guys, you don't have to be the best downfield passer. So he is set up for such incredible fantasy success that, yes, I am all in. Now, just to answer the question of playing time this year, I think he does see the field, at least half of this year. It would be.
