Fantasy Wildcards + Buy or Sell, Turd in the Third - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/10

consistency, touchdowns, all the things that you highlight it. The nice thing is that he is the pass catcher. But then Jamal Williams can do that. Yeah, absolutely he can, but DeAndre Swift is better at it. And I know that Coach Lynn was talking up DeAndre Swift. And we have evidence of Jared Gough, you know, like those Todd Gurley years.

That was Jared Goff who was throwing him the ball over and over and now a completely different system. Let me ask you this. There's at least evidence that it can still work. If you just took what he did last year, which I know was fragmented and took time to get going, but the end of the season, you know, the total fancy point numbers. I mean, are you, is that a turd in the third or are you happy? You'd be happy if he did what he did at the end of the season. He did that for the season. I think he would be very happy. I mean, if you got it all, if you got the whole.

inconsistent, didn't know when to play him, but fantasy finish that you got from stuff last year. No, I think you'd be disappointed. If you got what you got last season in its entirety, I think you'd be mostly disappointed. Sure. If you get that. But to me, to ask that question, you have to take out the beginning of the season where he wasn't the starter because he is now the presumed starter. He wasn't drafted that way last year. Yeah, I don't know if I have seen enough between the tackles.

running the football to declare swift, you know, elite doing that. I know he's a pass catcher, but, you know, 114 carries, that's not enough for me to know what he's got at the next level on this team. Jamal Williams is such a team guy. Everybody, every writer, every player. He's the best. They love Jamal Williams. Everyone does. And this is a coaching staff that I feel like that's going to really matter. I mean, who's a better pass catcher, Jamal Williams or Aaron Jones? Aaron Jones. And who was in so often on...

You know, the two-minute drills. Yeah. Do you think it was pure likability? Like, man, I like that guy. Get out there. It's trust. Get out there, buddy. These are human beings who they have trust in other human beings. And they say, man, I let's get that smile out there on the field. I trust Jamal Williams to do whatever is necessary. Exactly. Pass protection. All right. Let's, I'll go next here. One of my two fantasy wild cards, I think you guys will agree. It's Robert Tanya. Yeah. Tied in for the Green Bay Packers.

Right now, I mean, last year he had 59 targets. He caught 52 of them, had 11 touchdowns, was a big impact player for fantasy leagues and a steel finishes the tight-in three. But huge wild card. Huge wild card heading into the new year. And that's completely removing the variable of like Aaron Rogers. Even with Aaron Rogers back, just presume him back. He's still a wild card. He finished a tight-in three, but there was a,

huge gap between the tight-in two and the tight-in three. Obviously, Kiddle wasn't out there last year, but it was a 74-point gap between Darren Waller and Robert Tunyon. Since 1992, only two pass catchers had double-digit touchdown receptions in a season with fewer than 60 targets. Robert Tunyon is one of them, Grankowski, back in 2010. So he was an anomaly in being able to put up those kind of numbers on that few targets. Gronks, a Hall of Famer. That's right.

And he's a very, Robert Tunyon is a very talented guy. And if you bank on efficiency, bank, you know, bank on Aaron Rogers being able to do that. But, you know, Kyle looked at every tight end that's caught eight or more touchdowns in a season from 2014 through 2019. So there's 23 tight ends. Every single one of them had major touchdown regression, losing an average of five touchdown receptions on the next year. If Robert Tunyon.

gives you last season with six touchdowns. He's a width. Yeah, that would be awful. So the risk reward of Robert Tunyon is it's all touchdowns. It is on, you know, they love him. I think they love him in Green Bay. They need him. It's not like somebody else is coming in to be a weapon on the offense outside of what we're used to in Green Bay. Devin Funches does not submarine Robert Tunyon's potential. He doesn't? No.

Not yet. I mean, I hope he does for the sake of that drop that we got. I want to bring that back out. But look, I think Tunyon is just a really scary pick. Like, I don't know where. Like at no point in the draft, no matter the value on Robert Tunyon, will I feel like drafting him means he is an auto start on my team? Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. Even if he's a great late round value, even if he's a 13th round pick for my team, at no point will I feel like I can put him into my tight-in spot and lock him in? I'm still going. If you draft Robert Tunyon,

Keep your eyes on the waiver wire. Still be looking at players that you can find as gyms late in the drafter on the waiver wire that you can stream at the position. And you're saying this even with Aaron Rogers back. You're saying Aaron Rogers is the quarterback next year. If you draft him, keep your eyes on the waiver wire. And if he's not, good golly. Well, you won't draft him, right? Yeah. Tunyon will not be, yeah, he won't be on the. If it's Jordan Love or.

even if it's Blake Borders. Oh, Blake the snake! If it's Blake the snake, then you're out on Tunyon. I'm, I agree that he is a wild card. But to me, it's all narrative, but he does seem to have got that Aaron Rogers trust. And you have a, you have a James Jones type of a situation for, but it's going in your tight end slot. So that's a nice little boost there where if you're getting him in the later rounds,

I'm still intrigued. What's funny is if you believe he earned that trust over the course of the season, and you look from week 11 on, that's when he put up prolific numbers. He ended the year really, really strong, consistent. It's ironic, though, in those games still on pace for just 60 total receptions, but it was 15 touchdown pace. Yeah, and if you want to make the case for Robert Tunyon, the case is that what he did last year in establishing his value to the team to Aaron Rogers,

is that next year he'll be more involved in the passing game. It's not like because he had, you know, 50 some odd receptions last year. That's what he's going to get this year and he's got to have those touchdowns. Right. Maybe he ends up with 70 receptions and he becomes the second target. So there's a there's a way that it could happen. I just don't think we believe that it will.

Yeah, and his snap percentage, he's not one of those tight ends that's out there all the time. I mean, whether or not he earned the trust last year, he's out there 60% of the time. So you are... That's like Mark Andrews. I would say you're looking exactly like a Mark Andrews clone here, where it's going to come down to touchdowns. He might have some monster games. What do you have the three touchdown game in week four last year? And if it's a full one-to-one clone of Mark Andrews to Robert Tunyon, I'd rather have Rogers throwing the ball to my clone. That's a fair point. Fair point.

So that's both sides of it. If I had to put my money on one side, I probably would not bank on Robert Tunyon as a starter all year long. But right now is average drop positions in the late 8th. So if you're outside of the top five elite options, I mean, you're not doing a lot of harm putting them on your roster. I'm okay with that. All right. The first player I want to bring up is a wild card.

It is Chase Claypool from the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, wild card! He is a wild card. Let's set the stage for him. He is an absolute Hulk of a human being. He's 6'4, 240 pounds, and he runs a 4-4-2. In his rookie season, the first 10 games, he was a wide receiver 3 or better in 7 of them, and he was top 12 in 4 of them. That is...

incredible value that you got. Yeah, you were doing the worm that whole time. You were really happy. It was great. As a Chase Claypool, Truther, and you had the four touchdown game, like it was incredible for Claypool to start. And then the final six games of the season, he was a wide receiver for five of those six games. The only time he was solid was, in fact, the final week of the season when he played without Big Ben. Now, here's where things get dicey.

It's all about Big Ben. Is the arm actually better? That is now become a focus out of the news that's being reported out of the Pittsburgh camp talking about it was like three tendons that had to get repaired for Big Ben. He came back rather quickly. They changed the entire offense because Ben did not have the deep ball last year, which normally he's okay at it, but it was clear it was gone. But is the arm better?

He's really is old. You saw that yards. Most arms don't get better. Like the goal of a quarterback is like, hey, can I keep it the same from year 38 to the year 39? But there is the chance that his arm is actually better. And even with the bad arm, Big Ben was still on a 17 game pace of 4,300 passing yards and 37 passing touchdowns. That's a lot of production to go around for your wide receivers. The team is all in. Pittsburgh is.

going to ride or die with Big Ben for one more year. It's Mason Rudolph yet again as the backup quarterback, and they know what they have in Mason Rudolph, and it is not a starting quarterback. I think they know what they don't have. Yes, they know what they have, they know what they don't have, and as Mason Rudolph is there to help out practice and not come in and be the starting quarterback. But since 2000.

Since the year 2000, rookie wide receivers with 10 or more receiving touchdowns. It's just a handful of guys. Odo Beckham Jr., Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Calvin Ridley, Mike Williams, and Chase Claypool. Now, aside from Mike Williams, who, Mike Williams is a good wide receiver in the NFL. It just has not worked for fantasy football. But that other list of names, those were superstars. Superstar outside of...

Outside of Mike Williams and O'Dell Beckham. I mean, that list is amazing. Current. Fine. That's fine. If you want to grab on O'Dell Beckham, we won't go there. But number two, I kind of stumbled into that one. Number two, O'Dow Beckham was a league winning wide receiver for many years. No, he was elite. Everyone knows that. And that doesn't even factor in that Claypool had a little. He snuck in a couple rushing touchdowns. So they have that option as well at the goal line.

But what do you? Big Ben's older. Is the arm actually better? I do not know. It's so hard because on the surface, all of the measurables, you know, year two, there's so much to like about Claypool. I just don't know how to get my head around the passing offense. And like on any given week, Deontay Johnson, Juju, and Ebron, you know, could be, and Najee, could be how this offense moves. I just don't know if I see a universe where.

one of the wild card outcomes is Claypool is the bona fide one. Yeah, it would take him... Or like it becomes an alpha. It would take him really taking a leap forward in his second year as a player. Which he could do. I guess he could do. I've been rising on Claypool and his outlook because, you know, when you're drafting players like this in those middle to late rounds, I want someone who could. Someone who has a pass. So, Mike...

Seventh round pick, Mike. What side are you on with the... I'm on the side of he will. I'm on the side of he will return value for that. My ranking says I'm on the side. Yeah, you're out. So we are split on him. An interesting thing of like just scouring the box scores. When Juju really started to hit for fantasy football, it was the second half of the season, which is when Chase Claypool was, like I said, a wide receiver four.

or worse for those final six games. Was that a matter of arm fatigue? Was it a matter of the play calling because the offensive line couldn't hold up to pressure? There are so many questions for the Pittsburgh passing attack, but I'm going to bet on the talent of Chase Claypool and him improving into that second year. Well, it makes sense. I think I've moved myself to the place where I'm not going to give the benefit of the doubt to the Steelers offense.

since Brown left. From that point on, there's always been lots of ribbons of why they could be better, and I'm not going to give it until it manifests. Yeah, I think that's a fair approach. I lean on the side that I think there's going to be value to be had in Pittsburgh. It's going to be hard to know where it is going to come from, but Claypool is easily the most talented physical athlete of their...

You know, maybe he's not the best wide receiver, but he's certainly the best athlete. All right. My second and final fantasy wild card is Dallas Goddard. Yes. Dallas Goddard could absolutely be a league winner this year. Every single year, there tends to be some tight in. You get late or not in the top, you know, five, six guys who ends up.

saying, oh, I'm here now. It was Mark Andrews for a while. Then it was Darren Waller. It's like these late guys who they take a step up to be the next important fantasy option. That could be T.J. Hawkinson. That could be no offense. That could be Dallas Goddard. And I want to talk about his range of outcomes because I think they are very, very wide. And I think that Dallas Goddard, he could legitimately be right now their best pass catcher.