Fantasy Football Podcast 2017 - NFL Draft Show + Team Needs, Marshawn and AP News

Yeah, for me, I think he's 13, 14. I've cooled on my top 10 look, but I do think he's going to get the rock enough. And when you look at his contract, remember, they were close to not coming to terms over a couple million dollars. So obviously money here mattered to Marshawn Lynch. And he does a should. Well, sure. But he has a $2 million bonus if he gets 1,000 yards. So you think that that doesn't matter to him, getting the yards, getting the numbers, and that impacts fantasy. So I like him.

Speaking of other old Hall of Fame players being switching teams, Adrian Peterson, we have not commented on this yet. Two-year deal with the New Orleans Saints. I, you know, last year, I believe there were 155 carries or touches given to Tim Hightower. We knew that a running back was going to join the fray there. Mark Ingram has not been historically a 16 game running back. He gets hurt.

He gets in the doghouse. He's not well-liked. I think I said briefly, maybe it was on the Foot Clan show. But my opinion is that the reaction will be a little bit of an overreaction on Ingram with AP in the sense that 155 touches for Hightower and Ingram was still very relevant last year. That being said, Peterson has much more of the impact on the red zone than I think Hightower does. And so it does bring me some concern about those.

those numbers because not only does Drew Breeze normally score three or four goal line type of, you know, sneaks. You know, he has the potential to do that. Now you have one of the guys that's always been the best of getting into the end zone from the one or two yard line. It concerns me. I'm so baffled. I'm just baffled by this move for the Saints. It feels redundant, doesn't it? Well, it's just, look, what we know about Sean Payton, if you fumble, he hates you. Unless you're Tim Hightower.

What we know about Adrian Peterson, he will fumble. He will fumble multiple times. How will Sean Payton handle that? What else do we know? That the Saints have been the number one team passing it to their running backs, and we know that Adrian Peterson, can he catch the ball? Yes, because he's a professional football player, but that's not his strength. He's never been uncompletely comfortable doing it.

It's just so bizarre to hamstring yourself to an aging Peterson who maybe he has some juice left. Maybe he doesn't. But to give him a contract, I just, I'm, I am shocked. I'm shocked. Adrian Peterson is going to be ranked where? Where would you rank him? Based on preliminary information, no camp. I've, I've updated my rankings for both of these guys. And, you know, I'm, I'm, uh, yeah, give me both. Yeah, so.

I did move Mark Ingram down a little bit, right? Because this will affect him. You have to. But I didn't move him down crazy because one of the things, you know, I think people don't realize is his efficiency and in this offense, now he's probably going to be used more in that past catching role that he showed that he can do. But since he's been a saint, his per 16 games. So like even if he doesn't play, I'm saying if he were to play 16, his pace.

is 195 carries a year. He's not even a 200-carried guy, and he's been a top, you know, RB1 the last few years. So I've got Ingram currently as my RB 13, so just outside that top. And I've got Adrian Peterson right now a little bit further down like RB30. I think he'll have enough Red Zone opportunity to be relevant, but he will be the backup, I believe. Would you rather have...

Derek Henry or Adrian Peterson next year? That's a fair question. I think I would rather have Adrian Peterson because both become more relevant in the case of an injury. But I think without the injury, Adrian Peterson is someone I might be able to rely on as I would be able to start both players. I don't see that with Derek Henry. Kevin Coleman or Adrian Peterson. Coleman. I think it's Coleman. Do you think that Peterson will be drafted?

Before or after Ingram? Probably after, but he will be. You think Peterson will go? But I do think Peterson will, because of his name, be overdrafted. All right. Mike, you've got to be excited about this. The NFL has conditionally reinstated Martavis Bryant. Oh, I love it. Wide receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers. We've talked at length before about the impact Martavis Bryant has statistically on Big Ben Rothersberger and that offense. It's about a seven point per game difference. I don't.

You know, the sample isn't monstrous, but he is a field-stretching guy, and Big Ben finds a way to get the ball downfield. If Martavis Bryant is healthy and on the field, which has not been something you can take for granted, how much does this adjust Big Ben for you? How much, where do you think Martavis could realistically fit into the puzzle? Martavis, to me,

playing the whole season. He's a high-end two at the worst. I think he's incredible. I think his talent is... I feel like that's very bold. Possibly. To say a high-end two at the worst. Yeah, possibly. He's never had a high-end two year, has he? Yeah, well, if you... He's never had a full year. Yeah, I was going to say, if you were to play 16, his pace is... Well, that factors into it, though. No, I mean, it absolutely does. I think that at this, we know that...

his his i mean he had some social anxiety he has he had some internal problems and with his reinstatement i have to assume that he has you know done the right thing he sought out and got some help for it because the nfl factors those things into reinstatement i just i think he's so freaking good and matches up exactly with

with that team with what big ben can do you have they desperately needed help yes they did they they absolutely did they may still drafts somebody but i mean you saw it with that uh with with that those just couple of games with sammy coates had an actual functioning hand before he fully lacerated it

That offense was unstoppable. Yeah, and we have to remember, Martavis Bryant is only 25 years old now. When he was going through these issues, these personal, you know, struggles, you know, I feel like I didn't know who I was, you know, as a man until at least my middle 20s. Right. I'm not sure who you are now. Right? So, and I'm going to be 35. Is that mean you give Johnny Mansell 24 years old benefit of the doubt on that? Johnny Mansell is going to come into his own about 30.

Josh Gordon, 26 years old. I will say this with Martavis-Bryan. I echo what Mike is saying, and I echo what you're saying, Andy, in the sense that if he plays... You're a double echo. Well, if he plays, I think he's great, but you can't necessarily rely on him for 16 games. So on a per-game basis, I love him, but his risk rating is much higher. Yeah, I'd put him around 25. With, basically with this news, though, came the shocking, I mean,

dumbfoundingly shocking news out of uh for the arizona cardinals that another reinstatement happened uh darrell washington i didn't even know he was still trying no i didn't either he's been gone for three years that has no fantasy relevance but it leads me to question the josh gordon you know is if is this like the week right now where they're trying seems like they're trying to get these things done before the draft for the benefit of teams the draft is tonight is josh gordon coming back is he not

Oh, I'm tired of even thinking about it. Sure. I got him on my dynasty team. So if he does, then I can be happy. I think that the fact that Martavis is already back and Josh Gordon was like with, if you were followed the Darrell Washington story, the fact that he was reinstated just a couple days ago. And Josh Gordon wasn't on that day. That's extremely bad news. Right. Okay. All right. Don Charles Enman was signed to a one-year deal. He'll be back with the Los Angeles Chargers.

Aren't we all very excited about that? The mediocre signing of the week? All right. We're going to talk some first round draft, fancy implications, and in case you thought we forgot. Mike would never let that happen. So here you go. It's the day. I don't know if it's that or the play a game drop that I love less. The people love it, man.

Yeah, three years in a row now. Three years in a row. Last year, if you don't remember. The NFL is missing the boat on that one right there. Okay. What we're going to do is we're going to walk through the first round, and we're going to talk through some team needs and what we expect out of those positions. And then we're going to make our big time predictions for the big nine guys that we see that we're going to compete against each other on making these predictions, see how many we get right. And hopefully I am not the biggest loser of that game. That's...

Yeah, you hope that I'm not as well. That's good. If I win and you lose, I know exactly the meal that we will be eating. What, the very healthy anti-inflammatory beats? Nope. There will be no beats in your meal. Oh, crap. I know what it is. You're getting straight eggplant, my man. Oh, come on. Oh, gosh. Draft? I don't want to be here. Cleveland, you lucky old Browns. You're on the clock.

Cleveland on the clock. Let's talk about Cleveland. What does Cleveland need? Everything. What don't they need? The one thing they don't need right now is I think their offensive line looks like they're set. Sure. I also believe their running backs look ready behind it. The combo of Duke Johnson along with Isaiah Crowell seems set. So on the offensive side of the ball, I also think their wide receivers are okay. This leaves for fantasy purposes a quarterback. A quarterback. Yep.

So, I mean, that's why there are still Tribisky rumors for number one. You've also got... Trubisky rumors for trading up. They've got more ammo than anyone in the draft. Sure. They have the number 12 pick from the Eagles. So they're drafting at 1 and 12. They could take a defensive player at 1 and they could go get a quarterback at 12. But if there's one guy that they really like, it could happen at number 1. But what are the odds of that player having a fantasy impact in year 1? Zero. I mean, the odds of a quarterback doing it.

at all are low, the odds of a quarterback that is not really a consensus one doing it for the Browns. You really need those DAC-like intangibles. The most recent, well, last year it's probably, you need those Russell Wilson intangibles. Well, I'll tell you what, I will say this. So you need a fourth round quarterback. Yeah, that's what that means. I will say this, Cleveland Browns, after me mocking them, they do actually have some of those DAC-like intangibles.

in their offensive line. That's, I mean, DAC going in, if DAC went to a team that had no offensive line, how good a rookie quarterback winning up. I finally kind of understand what you're saying. You're saying, yeah, I mean. I'm saying that some of DAC's intangibles aren't his. They're Dallas's. Yeah. Some of them. I don't know. No, I mean, I would agree that. I mean, generally intangibles are about a single person. No, I get that. Just making a, making an association.

Okay. All right. So you're saying that a quarterback coming into Cleveland has the benefits that DAC had with a solid offensive line to protect them as opposed to coming in and being under fire to the degree that, you know. Correct. Yeah. He's saying that his favorite quarterback Johnny Manzo would have succeeded in Dallas. Yes. All right. We're moving on. San Francisco has the number two pick in the draft. San Francisco.

has a number of needs as well. This is often the case with the top of the draft. You're looking at Jason talked about the running back position. We've heard a lot of rumors about Carlos Hyde, and he would be the player most impacted by a draft pick at that position, obviously. Hyde hasn't stayed healthy. Hyde has always been much like many players. When he's on the field, his numbers look really good, and if you project them out over 16 games, they look really good, and he hasn't been able to do that.

is also not part of the new Shanahan regime, and he may want to make a mark there. What else do they need? Do you feel like there's the potential for the 49ers to look elsewhere on the offensive side in this draft? I mean, quarterback? They need everything unless their long-term plan is to, like Jason thinks, to steal cousins away from Washington. They could go anywhere. What's unfortunate for them are...

Maybe it's fortunate. I view it as unfortunate that they're number two. And the guys that they need, the offensive players that they need are not guys that are worthy of that. They feel like you should be taking them at number two. Now, I mean, take your guy, take the number one guy on your board that you want. But it's an unfortunate thing if they can't move down. I will say this. If they do not draft a quarterback or if they draft a later quarterback and this person is going to sit behind Brian Hoyer.

I think that means a lot more to Pierre Garcin than we think. I think if you have a rookie that you're going to bring in and you actually want to start from the beginning, that's not going to be good news. It's not going to be good news for Pierre Garzaun and for the wide receivers there. But if Brian Hoyer stays behind center, we've seen him give fantasy relevance to DeAndre Hopkins and to, you know, other players historically. He has the ability to put up a 300-yard game with consistency. So do you agree with that?