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Week 8 Studs & Stinkers + The Pick-6 Plan, It’s Christmas Time - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/2

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Week 8 Studs & Stinkers + The Pick-6 Plan, It’s Christmas Time - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/2

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Well, Dalvin Cook is really good. But Green Bay's defense gets to run. Detroit, Chicago, Dallas the next three weeks. Play Dalvin Cook. Yep. Geo Bernard, 15 for 62 and a touchdown. Has the by week coming up. Mixing should be back after the buy. We appreciate your service, Mr. Bernard. Alvin Camara, like, I mean, nine for 96 through the air again. He is outstanding. I don't understand what defenses do. I don't.

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understand how he can flare out to the right of Drew Breeze or to the left of Drew Breeze with so much space every play. But he would be the wide receiver 12 right now if he was only declared a wide receiver. Yeah, well, I mean, the defenses have to focus in on that wide receiver core. So it gives Deontay Harris. Right. Deontay. Austin Carr. Yeah. Why are you not like?

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Absolutely putting someone specific, like, you know how when you get a mobile quarterback and you've got that spy that just follows him wherever he goes. They're too slough. Bring in an extra corner and just you? He needs a corner on him. He really does. These linebackers have no opportunity, no chance. So unbelievable performance. And then DJ Dallas, DJ Dallas scored twice. That was the highlight there. He'd think it was about two a carry on 18 carries, but he scored two times. And it's probably his moment in the sun is over as well.

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Probably. Zach Moss scored twice. Yeah. Okay. Where are we at on Zach Moss? Temperature check. And Devon Singletary actually had a pretty solid game as well. Not fantasy-wise, but just overall, you know, rushing statistics. Both had 14 carries. Both had 80 plus yards. But Zach Moss gets the high value carries. I'd rather play Zach Moss. He is the one who in the red zone. But I'm saying we've.

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been pretty hands off on Buffalo running backs. Is Zach Moss approaching a place where you're willing to play him? Or was that the product of a bad Josh Allen game? Well, it was, it was obviously a super weathery game, as we have now coined it, and by me, I was going to say, please take credit by yourself. And so, you know, this was, they, they, both teams ran the ball a ton. It was more difficult to throw.

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He's interesting, and you've got to pay attention. Mike's 100% right. He gets the more valuable touches. He gets a little bit more work of the past game, and the goal line is where he comes into the game. So I'll look his way. I would roster him, but I'm not yet to the point where I'm going to start him. I mean, it's pretty simple on this team. If Zach Moss scores a touchdown, you're going to be happy. If Devin Singletary catches a few passes, you'll be happy. But, you know, Josh Allen runs them in as well.

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But I'm with you. Moss is a preferred option. All right. I want to know what you guys think here. Jordan Wilkins ended up with 20 carries, 89 and a touchdown. Naim Hines, just five carries, but had five targets, ended up with two touchdowns reminiscent of week one. Naim Hines has been entirely useless for fantasy rosters since week one. And this was another touchdown dependent situation. What are you doing with Jonathan Taylor? You got Baltimore next week.

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I mean, how do you even prescribe like picking up, we don't know how severe the injury is, and then you have Wilkins and Heinz against Baltimore? Yeah, I don't think I'm going to start a Colt running back next week because I'm not sure which one it would be or should be in a tough matchup. So how do you approach waivers then? Because that's the question for these two players is people are going to want to run to the waiver wire thinking Wilkins is the guy to.

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have maybe rest of the season. I feel like you're chasing points if you do that, and you'll be disappointed next week having spent up to get a Wilkins and then having to play him against Baltimore. I'm probably just going to be advising not to go hard at any of these guys. They're running backs who are getting carries, so they'll certainly be in my priority list, but they'll be low down and free.

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you know, because I can't imagine a world where I would have confidence to put these guys into my lineup against Baltimore. All right. Wide receiver stars this week. Metcalf 15 targets 12 for 161 and 2. Devonte Adams 12 targets 7 for 53 and 3. Robert Woods was great. Had two touchdowns, which was big time for Robert Woods. Tyree Kill has been.

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So consistent. Oh, my God. He didn't perform like Robert Woods, but Cooper Cup. 21 targets. 11 for 1.10, though, which was nice. Both were good. Maybe the worst the Rams offense has looked in forever at the same time that Woods and Cup were the best they've been. That's what happens when you turn the ball over four times. This is the James Winston.

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fantasy success model when you get down so much that you're like, I got to just keep throwing the ball and I'm going to rack up so many yards and touchdowns and all that jazz. But it came because of how terrible. Like the reason these two guys were great is because of how bad Jared Goff was. And that is true and makes no sense. 21 targets is almost embarrassing when your quarterback threw it 61 times. He should have had more. Right. Yeah. If you didn't see the game, the Miami Dolphins defense just manhandled.

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the Rams, but I'm now picturing James Winston doing an infomercial, like talking to court ethics. Are your statistics just a little bit too low? Are you trying to pad those stats? Let me tell you about this. Pick six. The James Winston method. The pick six method, very nice. You got TB 12 and you got pick six. Because here's the reality is, is when the defense scores, when they actually.

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score the touchdown on a pick six a fumble recovery for a touchdown that means the office stays on the field it's best case scenario for fantasy yeah don't just throw a pick oh no throw a pick six that doesn't pad your stats like a pick six no i learned that from that infomercial all right let's talk let's talk let's have an uncomfortable conversation oh no you know this is a tough uh it's been a tough year so let's have an uncomfortable conversation i know where it's going corey davis oh no

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have both Cory Davis and AJ Brown have played five games this year. This comes from Mike Taglier. They both have 39 targets. Corey Davis has two more receptions than AJ Brown. He has more yards than AJ Brown. He is right behind AJ Brown and fantasy points. He went 8 for 128 and 1 in this game. What say you? Corey Davis, if you look at his consistency, you can use the snapshot tool on the Fantasyfootbars.com.

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He has busted once out of five games. He has been, so he's been usable in four out of five. And two out of five have been like good, good fantasy games. Yeah. Corey Davis is, is someone that can be started right now. But I don't think that you're personally, I don't, I don't confuse these two and say Corey Davis is the better fantasy option. You know, you had AJ Brown that week one.

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get injured in that game. Sure. And that was his only bust game. He's been, since we've seen him the last four weeks, AJ Brown is up at the top. And if you want a big play potential, it's far more likely to come from AJ Brown than from Corey Davis. But I think both are startable assets. Chicago, the Colts, the Ravens, the Colts. Those are the next four games for Mr. Corey Davis. And I don't, I don't want to.

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Talk about Corey Davis because that's not a fun thing to do. But I do want to remind people this was the fifth overall pick in the National Football League draft. Devante Parker had a year five breakout. This is year four for Cory Davis. So to quote my good friend Jason Moore, he was drafted to be great. Yes, he was. Curtis Samuel, he had the great Thursday night game. You know, it was really two plays. It's fun. But it's fun. How about McCall Hardman? Is this just a,

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to taunt us because you got nine targets. You had seven. This is a stat line that looks like a normal wide receiver. Seven for 96 and a touchdown. This is the first time I think in his career, he's had a stat line that resembles a traditional wide receiver. He took it to 100. Just one week too late.

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One way too late. This wasn't one touch man. This was seven touch man. This was nine target man. It was involved. I might play him next week. It was involvement in the offense that we've been waiting. You know, I thought this was going to happen when Sammy Watkins went down, snap percentage up, routes run up. And it's nice to see. And hopefully it can become a trend. Brandon, I, you. Oh.

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Are you kidding? Oh, he garbage timed. Oh, my goodness. He was still having a nice game. But that last second touchdown. It was. The last second touchdown took him to an incredible play on the week. He did. He's a top 10 wide out this week. Top five, maybe. He was also dragged down on the two-inch line as well, a couple drives before. Eight for 91 and a touchdown to give you that. And Mike's taking it up to 100 player. We got one. Which was a success.

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Marvin Jones ended up with two touchdowns in the, he only had three catches for 39 yards. Oh, Marvin. Kenny Gallaudet got knocked out. And at the same time, you kind of have to glance his way because Minnesota next week. And if Gallaudet was to miss, you can feel pain again. Yeah. Yeah, it's one of those. You can throw them in your lineup, you know, and say a prayer and hope that he gets seven targets so he can catch.

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One touchdown and three balls. I'll tell you this. Travis Kelsey is probably the most satisfying fantasy player to have on my roster that I can ever remember. Every week, Travis Kelsey is so incredibly consistent. And this was one of those years. I remember Mike talking in draft season where it was like, you were willing to finally pay up for a tight end just based on history, right? I mean, number one tight in for four straight years. It's going to be five.

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at this point. And eight for 109 and 1. And he's just, I mean, he got a bowling ball thrown his way for a touchdown in this game. An underhanded inside screen pass. There is a gigantic pie. Like people always go to the analogy of the pie for fantasy points and where do people slot in. But it's a big pie and Travis Kelsey is always at the front of the line. And he does that, uh, the cartoon movie, you know, where you slice a piece of the cake and.

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You lift the rest of it up. And you're like, yeah, have fun, turds. I left you a little bit. It's the best kind of fantasy because you watch George Kittle. And he's making these unbelievably hard contested catches coming up getting injured, just unbelievable plays to get his fantasy points. You watch Travis Kelsey and you want to know what he's doing to get his fancy points. He's running in the middle of the field. Strolling through the park. Turning around. Turn around, getting hit right in the chest with a ball.

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You think in his workouts, he's not even running around? He's just practicing the turnaround? Yeah, he's just in front of a mirror. Yeah, let me see those hands. Yeah, absolutely. It's crazy. He doesn't look like he's doing anything special other than being gigantic first in line at the target show. Where's nobody at? Where's nobody? Oh, nobody's right there. Let me turn around. It's so nice to have Andy Reed as your head coach where it's like it feels like he takes the defense and says you guys.

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Nobody is allowed to be within 15 yards of another defender. You've got to spread out across the whole field and give us room to work. I do want to circle back to a wide receiver, by the way. Jared Cook had a nice game. Eric Ebron had a nice game. But we didn't mention him, but I feel like he deserves to be mentioned because since week four, he is the receiving yards leader in all of football and also scored and had a nice game. And that would be Travis Fulgum. Yes. Travis Fulgum had 400.

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And he has 435 receiving yards since week four when he basically started playing for that team. And this was with Jalen Rager there, Dallas Goddard. He almost had two touchdowns, much like IUC. He got dragged down on the two, and then Rager ended up with a touchdown. Yeah, that's, Fulgum is a, he's a weekly play at this point. You don't watch the game. My goodness. Whatever you do. Holy Toledo, that game. That was a.

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That was rough. That was a rough watch. What I have learned, you know, which is very little, clearly, a glutton for punishment and fantasy. But what I've learned over the last few years is that when you prescribe greatness for Philadelphia, when you prescribe optimism, when you prescribe any, here's new weapons for you, Carson, once the line is fine, the backfield's fine, the wide receivers, oh, they're all back. You don't end up with what you think should happen, ever.

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Can you remember a time when you're like, man, he's got his full assortment and we got the big time game? I can't remember when he's had his full assortment. So no, but I totally understand your point because the Eagles, when you have optimism, they let you down. But here's the reality is the NFC East has not let us down. We disparage them. We mock them. We are disrespectful. And sometimes that puts a chip on your shoulder where it's like, we're going to show them. And they're like,

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