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Fantasy Football 2017 - Keep/Trade/Cut, Pump the Brakes + Matt Forte Joins the Ballers

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Where are your start decisions in this game? And what are your thought processes for the fantasy world on this one? This game, I'm sticking with the basics on it. Jordan Howard is a must play. Tariq Cohen has worked his way to be an absolute must play. Not over, would you say as a flex or is a running back two? I would play him as a running back too. Did you guys disagree with that? I think he's more of a flex play.

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I would agree he's more of a flex play. That's always going to depend on your roster. Would you play Jaquiz Rogers this week? Or would you play Tarique Cohen? Juquiz has the Giants. The Giants. Cohen has the Packers. I would play Cohen. Yeah, I would as well. Okay. All right. So you're keeping it simple. Cohen and Howard. Also along with the simple is I'm not playing any Bears wide receivers. Or the tight-in because Zach Miller's been not so good.

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Yeah, I mean, Zach Miller has not been great, but neither, in fairness, has any tight end. Yeah. Like, the tight ends out there in the world are just so garbage that I think Zach Miller is in the same realm of he could end up with six catches, and there's very few guys that could. So I wouldn't be happy to start Zach Miller. They saw Adam Shaheen scored last week.

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He's obviously being more involved. Would you rather start Zach Miller or Martell's Bennett in this game? I'd much rather start Mattel's Bennett. Yeah, it would be Bennett. Don't give me something. Miller's not. He's in the lower end of that barf stew. Here's something that's interesting to me when I think about this game. And right now, while we're still in that transition period of getting the trends for the season, is what are the Bears? Because coming into the season, the Bears were one of those teams you thought were going to compete for.

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That number one pick, they just looked bad and then injuries and all these problems happening. But they just beat Pittsburgh. They should have beat the Atlanta Falcons. I mean, if Jordan Howard catches the ball, they win the game. Right. They're the 12th best team right now against fantasy quarterbacks, having never given up more than one touchdown to a fantasy quarterback this year. And that's having played good ones. Ryan?

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Winston and Big Ben, and they've given up 24, 16, and 16 fantasy points. So their defense in the secondary has been outstanding. And part of that's because of their running game. They've got a great offensive line. They've got Jordan, Howard, and Tariq Cohen that is able to shorten the game and make it harder on the opposing offense because they're not on the field. So, you know, I mean, I'm not saying.

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Obviously, you're not going to bench any of the Packers, so it's maybe irrelevant when you've got this good of an offense. Maybe you bench Randall Cobb worried about the injury. I feel like maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but James had a fine game against them. It wasn't anything spectacular, but that was also then the Bears on the road. So James put up 204 and 1.

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That's not a fine game. That's a bad game. 16 fantasy points. Probably finished in the late teens that week. Sure. Like I said, maybe I was misremembering. I remember the Mike Evans touchdown. But I don't have any concern here with the past catchers for Green Bay. Jordy's, I mean, Jordy's every week. Timeunk armies every week. I guess the question that is, do you play?

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Adams with confidence. You play Randall Cobb with confidence. And of course, if Randall Cobb plays, Geronimo Allison is nothing. Yeah, I play Devante Adams every week. You're just looking for those touchdowns. And if you don't play him, you're not going to get the games where he gets it. So I think that's what you drafted him for. Randall Cobb, you just got to keep monitoring the health. He worries me a little bit. Boy, I mean, he's practicing him full, so he's going to play.

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The question is, will you play him for fantasy? No, I probably wouldn't. I think I'd have another flex. I'd probably play funches over Cobb this week with Kelvin Benjamin and Olson being out in the matchup. If I was in a PPR, I would play Cobb. Just thinking about how their tackles have been for Aaron Rogers and the pressure that he has been under, he needs the quick release. And that's been Ty Montgomery and that's been Randall Cobb.

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And if he's there, he will use him. And I don't expect a lot of yardage or a touchdown, but I do expect quite a few receptions if he's in. I just have a really quick update since we're talking funches a few times. Is that? Is that Brooks? Yeah. Oh, Judge Giamatti. Welcome. Kelvin Benjamin is practicing today. Okay. All right. So I don't know if it's limited or full. I can't tell that. It's, uh, that's good news.

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Some perspective through three weeks, the Packers are running the ball. The second lowest amount in the NFL that should give you some confidence with those past catchers. And that's why Ty Montgomery, with the ability to catch the ball, his floor is still, what was it last week? Eight catches for 15 yards or 13 yards? Yeah, last week it was. He averaged 1.8 yards of reception, which is like impossible unless you get one reception. That's an accomplishment.

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All right, we're going to move on. Let's get into the mailbag. Mailbag. Yeah. Hey, yeah. Was there a hairball? Did you cough something up at the end? I attempted to, but it didn't come up. Another quick update. Brooks, do I need to hit the button on this one? It's just luck is not going to practice this week. Ooh. The Shepter just tweeted out. His name is not working out for him right now. Glad I traded Moncrief when I did.

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Lux practicing this week. Just be clear, he's not practicing this week. No, I know. Yes, I am aware. I'm saying that that was in my argument for selling Dante Moncrief was that he was going to. All right. Let's jump into the mailbag. If you have a question, go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com, or you can dial our voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB. We're going to start off with a voicemail question, assuming that I can play it.

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and it can be heard. Otherwise, we won't. Well, let's move it on then to... Hey, guys. I just have a quick question. I was wondering, since Will Fuller sounds like he's coming back, would he be a good pickup for, like, a flyer, or is there a better pick-up? Thanks for answering the question, and love the show. I have my thoughts on that. Do you guys want to jump in? I think that he's... I think he's an okay stash. I mean, it depends on the size of your bench, of course, but he...

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He can fly. Deshawn Watson has looked okay. Maybe that was the Patriots making him look that way. But I think that Will Fuller, because of his big play ability, is he's an okay stash. I'm interested in your thoughts on that. Yeah, my thoughts are that you don't really need to worry about him. I mean, nobody in the league is getting more of the target share than DeAndre Hopkins. They don't pass as much as other teams and they don't want to.

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necessarily take. I mean, you're waiting for a big play. I admit that. But I'd rather take Ted Ginn with Drew Brees for the big play than I would Will Fuller. Yeah, I think the volume isn't enough where you can accurately start him in the right matchups. You know, you're just going to get a random 50-yard bomb two times over the next, you know, 10 weeks. And to hold him and be tempted to start him and get the zeros in the meantime, I would stay away.

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It's just picked up Andy Dalton and the Bengals defense this week or yesterday. And I have Joe Mixing on my squad. Is it a good choice to start all three against the Cleveland Brown? Thanks. Yep. You're going to Megastack here? Yeah, I have no problem with that at all. I'm playing Joe Mixing for sure. They need a win bad. Their offense played much better last week, and they're facing the Browns. And the Cleveland Browns have given up a lot of points to fantasy defenses. Did you hear the Tony Romo call on that play where?

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They scripted the first 20 plays on offense for the Bengals, and they came out and they looked great, and they scored, and they had more points than they, you know, had had the whole year. And then Tony Romo, after those first 20 plays, goes, okay, the 20-play script is over. I think, you know, the Packers will have an easier time stopping them. They scored, like, three more points the rest of the game, and that was early.

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Script more plays. I know. This just in, we're scripting 100 plays for the upcoming game. It's very much like our show. We script the first four minutes to the show, and then from there on out, it's just a mess. Yeah. Just a dirty old mess. We have no idea what we're doing. Where are we? All right, moving on, Ryan. Elderly gentlemen. Ryan's question, would you drop Cam Newton to pick up Tyrod Taylor? No, not with the matchup this week. If I had to stream one this week, I'm still playing Cam Newton over Tyrod Taylor. I don't.

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These guys like Tyrod against Atlanta as a stream. I do not. I like Cam Newton against New England better. Yeah. That one's tough. I was hoping you do that one, baby. Water bet. Tyrod versus Cam. Let's go. Let's go. Mike and I water betting Cam Newton and Tyrod Taylor.

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No one's going to deserve to win that bet. At the end of the week, someone's going to win when their guy got 12 points. I just want to win with Cam Newton on my side. I want to root for him. All right, this one comes in from, I guess you didn't answer it, did you? I guess you did. I would. I'd rather have Tyrod. It's super incredibly tough because I had, like I said, I just got Cam in our League of Record. I was looking at Tyrod on the waivers. I guess I ultimately decided to not choose him.

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So I guess that means I would go on the campside. Certainly not water betting. Through three weeks, Tyrod Taylor's the 17th best fantasy quarterback, Cam Newton's 26th. Mike has the numbers in his favor on that one. How do you feel about Des going forward? Asked Martin Higerild. Fantastic. This was, you know, I talked about with DAC, they opened the year with such a tough schedule. And...

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After that, it opens up. Obviously, they're in a division where he's going to have tough corners. But I love, I love Des. I think Des. I'm going to be great. I think Dak is great, has been great, and will be great. He is the only quarterback right now that has had a top 12 performance every week. Des has touchdown capability to protect him against inevitable duds against, you know, yardage dugs against these big corners. He only had two catches last week.

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But he scored. That's true. We knew it was going to be tough against Patrick Peterson, one of the best cornerbacks in the league. But Rams, Green Bay, by week, San Francisco, Washington, the Chiefs, the Falcons. I mean, Des Bryant has a great stretch coming up. Outside of the Norman game, I like everything I see there. So, all right. Trade for Des. This one comes in from Adam off of Twitter. He says coming off a suspension is Willie Sneed going to be a good.

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Wide Receiver 2 option against Miami this week. No. As Andy said, there's no guarantee of volume. He could be, but you're not going to start him. You've got to wait and see with that. Which stinks because then it's the buy. Streaming quarterback question from Chip in Dayton. Wondering who to start this week, Andy Dalton on the road against Cleveland or Trevor Simeon against the Raiders at home. I think it's Wednesday, which means we are diving into our rankings, which happens. The deep dive happens after the show. My gut reaction is I would play Trevor Simeon.

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Uh, yeah, I mean, he was your guy. I think both are playable. Both, yeah, both are certainly playable, but I think that Simeon would, I'll give him the, the benefit of the, yeah. I'll give him the ceiling. Yeah, I can, I could see that. Um, this one is a trade question from Jeff and Vancouver. Oh, would you. Bonjour. Trade P. Rine for Gulladay. Nope. Nope. I think I would.

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Is P. Ryan have value moving forward? I think P. Ryan's in a situation right now that, so this morning I said I think Rob Kelly is one of my favorite by lows right now. Like, you know, just with the injury, go by Rob Kelly. His role is secure. However, if he was hurt, like let's just pretend for a minute. Let's say Rob Kelly's out for the year, just hypothetically right now. He's on vacation in Aruba. And now you're sitting here and you're saying, well, what is it going to look like in the backfield?

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I do not believe that the Washington Redskins can't afford to ultimately punish P. Ryan, right? Like, you can't do it. I don't think it's going to happen. I think that he was injured on that play. And I actually think P. Ryan wouldn't end up with value if for the rest of the year Rob Kelly was out. You'll see it this week because I doubt, I mean, they very well could, but I doubt they have all four of their running backs active for that game. So if Rob Kelly plays.

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I would look and see if Mac Brown is active and if he gets involved. If Somaget P. Rhine is the backup, then I'm not worried about Somage at all. Yeah, we still need more information. That's the truth. But when you have invested in a rookie. But here's the thing. Look at last year, Matt Jones. And when you're talking just like efficiency numbers, he was playing great. He was playing well. And they had drafted Matt Jones. They moved up to get Matt Jones.

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