Fantasy Draft Re-Do + Hungry For More, TNF Preview - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/9

Jordan Love, Joe Burrow. At running back, it's Sequin Barclay, Alvin Camara, Derek Henry, Kenneth Walker, and Kyron Williams. This is with a minimum of three games played. That's important, by the way, because if you didn't do the minimum, Joe Flacco's like dominating the quarterback position. At wide receiver right now, is Jamar Chase, Malik Neighbors, Nico Collins, Justin Jefferson, and Jaden Reed. And at tight-in is George Kittle, Dallas Goddard, Brock Bowers, Tucker, Kraft, and Isaiah likely. And there you go. Yeah, that's ridiculous. All right, with the first pick of the 2024 Fantasy Drive redo. Yeah, I'm so curious about this player. Yeah, I think it really could be a handful of guys, but I'm just going to stick with Jamar Chase. I figured you were going to do it. I figured that's what you were going to do. You know, it's not just the two games that have recently happened. That's just simply showing you this is the ceiling. He wouldn't be number one without him.

True. Yeah, definitely. But I'm saying like the other guys that we're going to talk about, can they hit on a weekly basis a Jamar Chase ceiling while still giving you a relatively safe floor? I don't think so. So I'm going to go Jamar. That would not have been my number one pick. Okay. That would have been number two for me. So actually at number one, it's not Sequin. The number one pick right now if I was redoing it would be Kyron Williams. Wow. Kyron Williams would be number one. His spice. He's as safe of a touchdown play every single week. And this is the team that's going to be battling every single week, giving up points. 22 opportunities a week for Kyran right now. Yeah, I mean, outrageous. I will take the L on the.

assertation that he was going to be in a timeshare. That ascertain was based on the fact that Kyron Williams was going to be. Stop after the first three letters, bro. He was going to be a punt returner. He's not a punt returner. No, because he's a top tier running back. Because they need him. So, Kyran is going to be the pick, Kyle. I'm curious your thoughts on those two and who you're going to go with. You guys went about this very different than I did, which makes it a good experience. But Sequin's my guy. That's who I would take. He's passed his by. And 22 opportunities a game just feels super safe. Yeah, I did. Conron got the pick ahead of Sequin for me, in part because of Barclay's age and injury history. And the fact that I'm not surprised it's a strong start for him in Philadelphia. But at the same time, we've had injuries to both wide receivers. And he's older. And so that was the difference maker for me. But.

But yeah, Sequin, you know, Kyle, the frontrunner, obviously going with the guy that's already in first. That's kind of what we're doing here. No, I know, I know, I know. But he's not here. So I just wanted to say something mean. Mike, you're at number four here. Chase Williams and Barclay. Who are you going with it for? I will take Justin Jefferson here. Interesting. He has been fantastic. We had four straight weeks of a touchdown. Add on top of that, look, Detroit. the Rams, the Colts, the Jaguars. Those are the next four games after the buy week for Jefferson. So I think he is the, while Sam Darnold and struggled a bit against the Jets this past week, Jefferson has remained in the top 24 every single week. He feels like I was saying about Chase. Maybe we don't have a 202 ceiling for Jefferson this year, but 1502.

That's very possible. All right. I'm going to go with a rookie at pick five. I'm taking Malik neighbors at pick five. Goodness gracious. It's just a target monster on a team that, you know, he's their entire offense. And so if you looked at just the first four weeks, he's on pace for, Mike, do you know the number? No. What if I told you it was 221 targets? What if I told you he was on pace for 148 reception, 1640 yards, and. 13 touchdowns. I mean, that is astronomical. So I'm going to go Malik Neighbors. There's more seasoned names out there that I could have picked. But, you know, with Breeks Hall and Bijan not climbing up this list as high as they were before, I'm going to take, I mean, running back wasn't an option here for me. I'm going to go Malik neighbor. I totally get that. And if he gets that target share the way that the Giants are playing, he, Malik, this will not be the only time he misses a game.

Right. Because he just too much. Yeah, he's getting crushed. Kyle, who do you have at pick six? I think this is one of the points where you have to think moving forward, what can they be? And so I would take C.D. Lamb here. He's been the wide receiver. What did you say, Andy? 19. Yeah, at this point last year, he was the wide receiver 20. So it's the same thing. And then you remember that run, rest of season. You're not getting the same insane target share. but he does have the second easiest wide receiver schedule moving forward and they can't run the ball. I was actually, that would have been the closest pick with neighbors to me. So I love that pick. I think C.D. Lamb is when you don't want to miss right here. It's not like he's been bad. He just hasn't had the 100 plus yard games. Yeah, hasn't gone boom yet. He will. Don't worry about that. Mike, you're on the clock. C.D. Lamb was the pick. Well, that made the decision easier for me. Don't forget about this guy.

because he's, you know, a little bit lower in the overall rankings since he's only played the four weeks. He's already had the bi-week. Amen Rae St. Brown will be my next pick. Week one was a bit, a lot of bit scary when you took someone in the first round, and he ends up with six targets for three catches and 13 yards. And then we went, oh, everything's okay, because we got 19 targets the following week. Ammon Ra is, it's still already... He's not in that Jamar Chase tier. It feels like. And yet he's still just so solid and so good basically every single week. Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to finally give us another running back. The first seven picks off the board, five or wide receivers. And I'm going to go with Derek Henry. I'm going with Derek Henry at pick. Interesting. At pick eight. This is not just a hot start to the season to me. This is an identity.

change for this team. Has she scored every week? Seven times a week, I think, is what's happened so far. I'll vet it real quick. No, Derek Henry's going to be the pick because I don't think it's been outrageous, man. I don't think it's going to change. Seven total touchdowns. If there's ever a player, you can, you know, we say that touchdowns are not a predictive stat. They are with Derek Henry. Like, you can guarantee that they're going to happen. The identity of this team has basically, everyone's been erased from fantasy value. Andrews and flowers and they don't have players to rely on. It's Derek Henry. And if they could have their dream, they'd play defense and he'd run for 200. So they said everything before the year. We're not going to be like Tennessee. And then they hand the ball to Derek Henry 5,000 times. Well, they were, they told the truth of like, we're not going to have him on the field all the time.

Because, you know, he's averaging 52% of their snaps. 52% of their snaps, but he gets over 20 opportunities a game. It works for me. So I'll take him at 8. Kyle, you're on the clock at 9. Yeah, this was kind of where you drafted this player in the office. He's like back of the first round. So Jamir Gibbs would be my pick. He's passed his by. It's been solid. I won't say great yet, but you have the upside if Montgomery went down. I think he has the running back eight right now, seven or eight, depending on your scoring format. So, you know, he's kind of been lurking in the shadows with super solid performances and yet no monster. You know, he's got a, he's the kind of player that can put 30 or 40 up in a week if it goes his way. So like you said, also that he's still been great. And it's just, David Montgomery, I don't think can keep.

scoring every single week because he has also done that. Well, and Dan Campbell came out and said like Gibbs is, you know, we're ready for it to grow even larger in terms of his role. Mike, you're back on the clock. I think this is when it gets more interesting. Like some of these picks here, you can mix the order up however you want. But I don't think there's a lot of disagreement in terms of the players that we've drafted. Oh, my goodness. But here's where you start to look at rest of season. Not necessarily just what we've gotten through the first five weeks, but Mike, who do you want to take here? Because I really don't know what name you're going to say. I don't know what name I'm going to say. This is what I'm talking about. This is such a strange point of not strange to think about redrafting right now, but it's strange of where these players are with dodging injuries, quarterback injuries, players themselves getting hurt. And I, oh my goodness.

I'm going to go, I'm going to go James Cook right here. Interesting. I think that he, he's one of, he's a, he's a, he's a my guy that doesn't, that doesn't hurt things at all. But he had, he had the stinker against Baltimore. But other than that, you know, three, a number two finish, a number 11, a number seven finish. The guy has been, he's been excellent. He's averaging almost 16. points a game, and that includes a really bad game against Baltimore. All right, so James Cook is the pick? Yeah, and it's like, what is this, what is this offense in Buffalo other than James Cook? Nothing else feels really secure. All right. This is where I'm going to have a really difficult time. Oh, James Cook not practicing today? That's cool. What is this, T. Higgins? Right after I draft him? Just relax. It's Wednesday. Did you cause that? Probably.

My bad, everybody. Obviously, Nico Collins would have been drafted in the top three. Yeah, he would have been picked already. Yes. Now you have to account for four weeks of missing time, so he's not going to be the pick here. I'm actually going to take a long view type of decision the way C.D. Lamb was picked at six. I'm going to take Tyree Kill. Okay. I wondered. I'm going to take Tyree Kill at 11 knowing that, look, we got a buy week this week. And then we could have toa back. I think in week seven or eight. I think it's week eight. It's week eight. So you've got one more. You have at least, you don't have him this week. You don't have him next week. You don't really have him next week. You'd still play him. He was six or 69 on nine targets last week. And I mean, it's calling your shot for sure. I want the best wide receiver or one of the best wide receivers in football with his quarterback when it's time to win games. You've got a lot of fantasy season left. Yeah. So I'm going to go with Tyreek Hill. Kyle, I am curious.

If he would have been in contention for you. No, he's on the list. I have no idea where I should have taken him where he was supposed to go. And that's, look, it's Tua. We hear he's going to be back week eight. We hear that. Like, that's what I'm planning on. But I think those plans could change. Tua could get out there, start practicing and falling and be like, oh, no, things were actually not okay yet. So there's risk. Yeah, definitely. I believe. There's people that are trading right now for Tyreek. I see it in our Discord. And they're like four in one or three and two. And they're like, can I trade for Tyreek from the manager who is scared or they're one in four? And I feel like that's a spot where a lot of people can take advantage of him. Yeah. If I have a winning record right now, I'm for sure trying to go get Tyree kill. I'm trying to make plans for the playoffs. All right. Make sense. Who's the pick? Pick 12. I promise. I promise this is not a Homer pick.

But I think I'd take Bijon. Okay. Okay. He has the third easiest schedule rest of season. He's still seeing over 30% of the team's total rush attempts and targets. So like it's there. You're just waiting for it. And it's Carolina this week. So I think Bijon belongs somewhere between 12 and 15 to me. I don't disagree. I think on Monday, Mike, we had talked about with Jason Brees or Bijon rest of the season. My answer was Bijon. Is that your answer? Um, or is this transformation of head coach changed what briefs is going to bring? I think the head coach changed for the Jets to me is essentially neutral, which if you didn't hear the rumor mill, ladies and gentlemen, it got Moy Caliente this morning as the reports allegedly, I'm only sharing this because it's just so much fun, uh, that, uh, coach Sala had,

had said, or someone found out, he was about to remove Nathaniel Hackett, the offensive coordinator from play called duties. And then the Uno reverse card was thrown. Yeah. They said, no, you're fired. That's a little more than just a reverse card, man. That is, um, we're going to ask you from the building. It's, things aren't going well up there for the New York management. No, but between Bijon and Brise. I guess I'll go Bijan just the offense looking like they're alive for the Falcons. I like that they're throwing more because I would rather Bijon get targets instead of rushing attempts. All right. Well, Mike, you're on the clock. Man. So I believe that the number one overall running back still has not been selected. Is Camero really? Is Camero at number one still? I'm going to vet that. I don't think he's at number one. No.

He's at number two. I apologize. Yeah, terrible. Yeah, Derek Henry. The king is at number one. And I still don't want to draft Alvin Camara. Well, you got to change a quarterback. Yeah, that does. But Camara's impervious, the most things. The offense doesn't look good. What are you going to do? I mean, you'd be making the call over Brise, obviously. Yeah. Over A. Chan, over James Connor, over Monty. Oh, my goodness gracious. This is absurd. Ladies and gentlemen, this is fully absurd. I'm trying not to let my priors. I wasn't really bullish that Camaro would be able to do anything like this, and he's been exceeding all expectations. But he's just so old. He's just so old. I'm going to go. I'm just going to double-check the wide receivers here. Now, I'm going to, we're going to get back in the bone zone. I'm going to take Kenneth Walker here. I love what's going on with the utilization of him way too much.

Injury risk, absolutely. He does seem to be a little bit more fragile than other running backs. But Kyle, he leads the NFL in red zone opportunities? That's not what it says. Look, I want to make sure that people know that the bone zone is the red zone. No, no, I just threw that in there. Oh, you're just because that's his name? Well, no one else is in contention, Kyle. No one else exists inside of the bone zone. He's number one. Just kin. Goodness gracious, Kyle. Distracting me with dumb stats. So you're going Kenneth Walker over Alvin Camara? I am. The question for me is Camara or Breece Hall now. Yeah. I didn't want to do that one. I bailed out. I also, I don't know when or if he will go in the top 24, but I do want to bring up James Conner's name because he ended last year with five straight top five performances. And this year, James Conner's the RB9 this year. Like he's been dominant.

We need more targets, Kyler. They tried. They did, he threw a pick to, threw a pick to Bosa. Just saying of the. But Connor's been super reliable. He's not, this isn't the pick here. I'm going to take Alvin Camara. I'll go ahead and do it. Yeah, I get it. You know, he was a steal in the draft. He's a steal in this one. Kyle, you're back on the clock. Cameras off the board after Walker and Bijon. So the running backs for the last five, who you take it? I'm going to take a forgotten wide receiver. He played in week one and then we haven't seen him since. So I would take AJ Brown. I get it. He might not be 100% right away, but it's been four weeks. And I think he's probably the best wide receiver of this group rest of season. I'll be a good call. I'll be honest. We should have drafted him earlier. That's like everything is just so upside down. I mean, I don't know if that's true.

I do. I mean, I would take AJ Brown over Tyree Kill right now. That's the only one though. Like I'm not, I don't think we've messed up another wide receiver because I agree. Amon Ra, Lamb, neighbors, Jefferson, Jamar Chase. The Tyree Kill versus AJ Brown, yeah, maybe that one should be flipped. But, you know, both of them have risks at this point. Andrew Brown coming off an injury. Philadelphia looks a little bit messy. And then Tyree kills messy right now. So Mike, you're back on the clock after the AJ Brown pick. Okay. So. Now the question is, do you take someone who is actually producing at the wide receiver position, or do you take the gamble of trying to get a guy who was drafted as a top three running back? If we were really going right now, I think I would do that. I'm going to go, I'll take Breece. All right, Breece Hall at 16. I'll end his suffering. It's rare to be reluctantly taking Breece Hall, but that's where we're at.

I've got the next pick here. What did Jason say? Like the, the biggest Breece Hall stand, the biggest defender, how does, how does he feel about three yards in attempt on the season? 2.6 last week, point four the week before. There's a reason he's not here. He couldn't stand to face it. What do they call that? He's taken a. Leave a vatical. Leave of absence. Yeah. What does some of the companies do, though? Like a. Oh, what, like a forced vacation? No, they take a week off for like wellness retreat. Oh, the wellness week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to get that mind right. Got to get the mind right, Jason. No, he's actually seeking, you know, some insights. No, I mean, look, I don't think he feels good. He didn't really acknowledge it a lot. He's got him on every roster. I think he's just kind of like, it's one of those like quiet nod acknowledgments. Because the first three weeks, it was fine.

Brees will be better. His schedule is good. Something changing on offense is good. We'll take a break. I've got pick 17 coming up. All right. All right. So the last three picks, Camara, A.J. Brown and Brees Hall puts me on the clock. I don't know when is the right time to draft Nico Collins, but I don't think it's right now. Not with for sure four weeks out. Plus maybe more. Yeah, I can't do it. I'm actually going to go with, I'm going to go Brian Thomas Jr. I didn't know when the right time to draft him was. Now, now is the right time. Pick 17 overall is the right time. I'm taking Brian Thomas. I just think he is actually a really high floor. With all the upside of being the talented rookie that he is, he's just going to be peppered with targets by this team. So I'm going to go Brian Thomas. Yeah, they're trailing.

all the time. I think you said on Monday show, 1350 is what he's on pace for, which is like only Jamar Chase has ever done that. So there's a bunch of wide receivers here that I don't know the order of. So Brian Thomas was one of them, Jaden Reed, Marvin Harrison Jr., Drake London, like all of those guys are around the same. You forgot another one too, I think. I probably did. I probably, I'll take, I think. I think DK Metcalf and Mike Evans would be two more names to think about. Yeah, they're right below that for me. I'm going to take Jane Reed. I need to take the L on that Andy. Yeah, how's that feel? How does that take it right in the? Right in the what, huh? Yeah, yeah. I will select him for my team, Andy. There's no. There's no better sound effect than what you just said. There was. I was scrambling. Cut that, cut that, cut that through. Like what body party is it going to say? Because it's, they're all going to be bad. There's nothing good.

Sorry, go ahead, Jaden Reed. Take him. I'm dead, but also he's number one in fantasy points per route run among all wide receivers. Yeah, he's awesome. When he's on the field, they're good. Well, it's been often this year. So it's a good pick. Mike, you are back on the clock. Okay. If I'm here at this point, it is between three players. It's Drake London, D.K. Metcalfe, it's Marv. The hot and cold nature of Marv is scary thus far, but he is a rookie. You would expect things to get better over the course of the season. Oh my gosh. I'm going to go, I'm going to take Drake London. I'm going to the with, again, there's the turnaround of what's going on with the Atlanta Falcons. The targets are absolutely redonculus right now. 13 targets in the crazy game. That was a,

That's not normal. However, the week before, it was 12 targets. He just, he only caught six of them. He had an outrageous 12 catches on 13 targets the past week, but they're opening it up. Kirk still doesn't look fully healthy to me. Like, it looks like a, looks like a lot of effort. I was going to say, it looks like he's working hard. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not the, it's not the, just a nice casual flick of the wrist. The ball goes flying. He feels, it's a little shot putty. at the moment. But the ball's getting there. And Kirk is still has the smarts to get it done. That's a choice over Marvin, Metcalf. Yep. You know, it's trying to catch the trajectory. Get on the rocket ship while it's not left orbit yet. All right. I'm going to, I think a safer risk is a funny way to put it. I'm going to take Cooper Cup at 20. Wow. Okay. We expect Cooper Cup back next week.

So you're talking about one week without Cooper Cup, and he was performing at a superstar level. Again, I'm going to take Cooper Cup at 20. I'd take Cooper Cup over Drake London right now, but probably not the names before it. So Kyle, you're back on the clock. We got four picks left. I'm going to make it easy. Mike, if you want to hit that drop, we're never going back to the pants there. Marvin Harrison. Man, Marvin Harrison, it's weird. It's been a weird, it's been a weird season. It's really weird. Because there's been disappointing weeks. I mean, whenever you have a guy that, what, two out of five weeks, you've been super bummed and yet explosive number one option. That's a tough pick to know where to put him, but I like it. All right, three picks left. Mike, you're up next, then me, then Kyle to round it out. We have definitely been here before where.

The QB1 was so far ahead of everybody in points per game and then things leveled off. But the Ravens, like you said, the identity of this team seems focused on Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson. And Lamar is almost 25 points a game right now. Like Jane Daniels has been the steal of the draft. Lamar is multiple points per game better than him just five weeks into the season. So I'm going to go early QB here. I'm going to take Lamar. I don't blame you. I wasn't sure if we'd see a quarterback. I had Lamar and Jaden on the list. I don't want to go another injured gamble with Nico Collins here. I don't think that's the right play. It's tough. You know, Monty's in consideration. Over JT? James Connor, Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor. I get, yeah, sorry. James Carter. Another hurts. James Connor and Jonathan Taylor are a problem because like.

Taylor's around the same production level that Conner's at, but he's got the injury and he's got the quarterback that I don't have confidence in. I get that, yeah. So Jonathan Taylor's probably worthy of the pick. It's just a little bit scary. It's between probably Metcalf and A-chan. I'm going to take Devon A-chan. Dang, okay. With, again, the bet that you're... I bet that he's only out a week with a concussion. Yeah, and that you have a quarterback back after that. I mean, if you're going to miss a week, miss the one where you're on by already, and then get your quarterback back.

quickly and get onto the field on one of the league's best offenses. So I want to win the league. You know, like making a pick here of, you know, David Montgomery is not going to win your league. But Devon H.N. could if the offense is back in one piece. So sure. I'll go A. Chan and then Kyle, your final pick. And why is it her cousins? Montgomery was in consideration, but I'm kind of with you. It's like I feel safe with him, but upside rest of season. D.K. Metcalf is also there. But I'm just going to swing for the fence and just say Brock Bowers is the tied in one rest of season. I think he kind of belongs in this second, third roundish, and he's awesome. We talked about on the Dynasty podcast. The lack of Devante Adams, which is more than likely permanent now. Yeah, did you notice his hamstrings hurting for one more week? It is. Yeah. It's hurting until he gets traded. Yeah. At least that's what it feels like right now. So seriously, though, when Adams is.

If he's gone permanently, Brock Bowers is, he's the number one target for that team. And we already know that he, like this dude can play. He can play in the NFL. He could do a big play. Oh, my gosh. The high point headtop ball. Yeah. Touchdown. Mani had two in that game. All right. I want to run it back real quick, Mike. I'm going to read the first 12. You take the second 12. Jamar, Chase, Kyron Williams, Saquan, Barclay, Justin, Jefferson, Malik, neighbor, Citi, Lamb, Ross, St. Brown, Derek Canary, Jamir, Gibbs, James Cook, Tyreek Hill. and B. Jean Robinson. Ken Bone Walker, Alvin Camara, A.J. Brown, Briseau, Brian Thomas, Jr., Jaden Reed, Drake, London, Cooper Cup, Marvin Harrison, Jr., Lamar Jackson, Devon H.N. and Brock Bowers. All right, definitely give us your feedback. Oh, yeah, let us know what we messed up. Yeah, and what egregious oversight exists. I mean, you know, you could, if we had another 12 picks, I'm sure there'd be some, you know, Jonathan Taylor would be in there.

DK not in the top 24 is 12. You redraft, let's say you did a full redraft. Where's Christian McCaffrey? That's a very good question. Also, where is he right now? And where does anyone know? And where's Jordan Mason then? Because if you answer the first question, you have to answer the second question because if McCaffrey is late, then Mason should be somewhere higher. And that gamble for the rest of the season is potentially league winning. If McCaffrey comes back and it's himself, even if he's not himself for five weeks. Like if you just told me that, where does he go in the draft? If he missed another five weeks? No, if you say McCaffrey comes back in two weeks and he's in full form in five. In two weeks, if he came back in two weeks, he would be a first round pick. So, you know, that's... But that's the question. Where in the world is Christian McCaffrey? All right, that is going to do it for today's episode of the show.