Week 15 Studs & Duds + Jason's Demise - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/16

The Fantasy Footballer Studio is brought to you by Amazon Prime. To the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers podcast Monday, December 16th. Jason Moore, Andy Holloway with you today.

No, Mike. He is out sick. He was with us yesterday. He was. I think maybe a too much smoked brisket problem? I don't know. He said he started crashing last night. And then we got the infamous 3.42 a.m. Slack message that said, consider me doubtful for tomorrow, which, you know, 3.42 a.m. You're not going to see him. That's a full. No, no, we're not going to get an update of like, yeah, fellas. Turns a lot better since 3.42. Turns out I'm not okay or I'm totally fine. I was worried. So I had my son hung out with a friend all day yesterday. And then as my wife and I were going to bed, we get a text from that son's mom of like, my kid went to bed just fine, just woke up throwing up like crazy. Oh. I was like, oh no.

But we had no. So far. We had no such wake up throw up. It feels a little bit like just getting through Christmas is dodging. Because you're at all of these events. If you have kids, kids are, I mean, these, they're a problem. Yeah, they're a huge problem for disease. And, you know, I had to go to a recorder concert. Congratulations. That's a thing. I see Ducers Allie laughing because it was two hours of people playing recorders. But that's a gathering of people. Didn't they play hot cross buns ever? No. Oh, come on, man. No, that's too easy for them. Can't go back to the classics? Then it's like you were at plays for your kids. I was at a Grinch play with my daughter, you know, and just tons of people there. Like you got a Dodge illness and Mike obviously unskilled. Yeah. And I didn't think you'd be here because I thought you might be sick today.

You know what you're talking about. No, no, no, no. My update for the foot clan, my garbage team that backed into the playoffs going up against Jeremy's awesome team. While I did have some fun moments and it seemed like, you know, my Bengals defense might, might take me over the top. It is not going to happen. Would you say that your team didn't quite cross the goal line? We did not. I see what you did there. Just like the Bengals dropping the touchdown. I mean, you had Jonathan Taylor and the Bengals who both couldn't finish running over a goal line. They both had wide open, easy, unbelievably great touchdowns that the players dropped the ball crossing the goal line. Why? Like, if it happens once in the NFL, that's got to be a lesson. We all know Deshaun Jackson is made to do that. That was the famous one.

And then a couple of years ago it happened. Who was it? It was another, it was a star. I forget who it was. But another wide receiver did it. Maybe earlier this year or last year. And then this week, two players. We had, was it Malachi Corley for the Jets did it. Yes. Because it was going to be his first career touchdown. Hold on to the football until you're 100% sure. You're in the painted area. But this, Al Borland was there for about half the day. And you two were yelling at each other. Every good thing that happened. Every bad thing. Very loud. It was entertaining. It was fun. I have a buy. It was all I could live for. Right. Yeah. Our enjoyment. But if Al had been here when Jonathan Taylor did what he did and that had been consequential, I can't imagine what Al would have done. Yeah, 41-yard rushing touchdown. That was awesome until all of a sudden he decides to do.

drop the ball before. But you got throttled regardless. Like five more guys could have dropped the ball before the goal line. It's okay. The most important league, Mike and I's champ champ champ league. We ironically, we came in the morning and we decide based on some weather and the fact that Taylor Swift obviously is not going to show up. We decide to bench Travis Kelsey. It's really good analysis. For DJ Moore. Yeah. And at the end of the game, Travis Kelsey scores four points. So we're like, Whew, good call. Good call. Well, now my opponent, our opponent, has finished. He's completely done and he's up by two points. Yeah. So now I'm like, man, I wish to play Travis Kelsey because DJ Moore is going to score more than two points, but I mean, there's a chance he doesn't. Just, I mean, that would be legendary for tomorrow's show. We got studs and duds today. We got Monday upon day today. We got a congratulations for Al Borland as the people were following along. Al, still alive. Blood pressure.

Has is it calm now? Are you back to normal? I feel great. Just for now. Until next week. That's right. So there is the chance for the show's sake that if Al wins his matchup next week and I win mine, it'll be another face off here in the studio. Championship matchup between Owl and Andy. I hope that doesn't happen. Well, we've got a lot to talk about a lot of reactions. I will tell you reviewing the Monday Punday reactions. There were a lot more people upset than there were people happy with disappointing performances. We'll get into them momentarily. It's because some of the disappointing performances were not like they let you down. They were like they destroyed you. They put you down. They stabbed you in the back with a knife. They twisted it. Yeah. And then on your way down, they kicked you in the balls from the back. Oh, and that's, you know what? Not great. No. Not great. One quick reminder, though, before we jump into Monday Punday.

We got to get this out there because it's championship season. If you go to fantasychamps.com, that is where you can find championship belts, trophies, rings, all of your swag for your league. Right now, if you put in the code free ring and you buy a belt or a trophy, you will get a free championship ring, which. We've got those displayed proudly in our office for every title we've won. Yep, they are $59. They are sweet. There's like six different $59 rings that you could choose. You just add the trophy and add the ring to your cart, put in the code free ring, and you get the ring for free. So call your shot now. Yeah, fantasychamps.com is where you want to go. We remind people around this time of year to pick up their swag for their league. And without further ado, we will...

We'll go ahead and get into Monday-Punday reactions for week. Number 15. Well, we'll start with the good. Uh-huh. Like Jerry Juicy. Yes, he was. Or Malik Navidad. Oh, that's pretty good. Or Jared, go off. Oh, James Cookin. Yeah, next to Josh Alien. Yeah, those guys are unstoppable right now. Oh, M.G. St. Brown. Yeah, big game for Ammon Rao. Terry McScoran once again. And wham, bam, thank you lamb. Oh, okay. The bad, like toilet ton of Iloa. Yeah, to turn the ball over. Oh, Jonathan. Failor. Yeah, it was. Brock Turdy. And Bo picks. A lot of picks. Bo, lot of picks. Kyler murdered me. Yeah, he did. And, uh, Jason, a little combo here, me and you. Lamest Winston. James Benched son. Yeah. Uh, Cooper suck. Gooser Cup. Isaac. Rearindo. That's good. I hadn't seen that. And Barfin Harrison Jr. I, I wonder what your.

objective reaction to Marvin Harrison would be because you on our, I think it was our bust episode, you called this. You said, not all paths lead to greatness for Marvin Harrison in his rookie season. Most people thought that he was on his way to a dominant year, that there was just no way that that couldn't happen with the way the targets broke down in the offense and the Cardinals. And if I'd even told you ahead of time, If the Cardinals would be sitting a game out of first place, you know, with a 500 record at this stage in this season, you'd probably be even more inclined to believe that Marvin Harrison had a big season. Well, and if you told me he's like the leader in targets for the team that's buying for the playoffs. Touchdowns. I mean, that it hasn't happened. Some ways that you can look at it, though, some ways that you can look at it, this is a very successful rookie season. I'm pretty sure he's leading all rookie wide receivers in touchdowns.

Maybe that's not true after Brian and Thomas Jr. I'd have to check after this week, but last week he was. He has been involved. He has shown plenty of flashes. But for fantasy football purposes, he's an outright bust. This was a player you picked at the back of the first round, and he's had lots of good performances and lots of stinkers. It's funny because in Monday, Punday, he's basically there every week. He either had a really good game and was awesome and helped you. Or he's starving Harrison. Yeah, farting Harrison. 47 for, 47 receptions, 687 yards, seven touchdowns is where he sits. 47 receptions is terrible. 92 targets is awesome. Yeah, but that catch rate is, I mean, it continues. They're so out of sync every. I think Kyler sucks. So, yes, yes. Kyler does suck. However, Kyler's reads to Marvin Harrison.

And I even think the throws to Marvin Harrison aren't bad. I don't know why you can't catch the football. He picks him at the right time. He finds him in every one-on-one matchup and he gives him a catchable ball that Marvin Harrison is just out of sync with when he turns, when he jumps, when he whatever's. I heard a good friend of the show Matt Harmon talk about Marvin Harrison and discuss him in the context of this is a bigger player. that plays like a smaller player. Elite route running, you know, you talk about what Alman Ra does well. You talk about what he doesn't seem to go up and win on these routes that they're running him on. The back shoulder fades, the corner fades. I've seen none of that. Almost none of that come down.

uh in his arms i think it will get rectified and fixed in the future with a taller quarterback or what um no i i think with um him growing into his man body and learning the skills of like when he was in college when he was in college he toasted guys and you know these he didn't have to make a bunch of contested catches he didn't have to make back shoulder throws over great defenders where you know he's right there with someone he's got a Turn and Mossa guy quite the same. I can't stand the play calling in Arizona. I can't stand the blobfish, the offensive coordinator. It's really not fair. It's really not fair. To have him as the blobfish thing. That's not a good nickname. It's not, but we call it, we say it every time. We see him. We see him. Petsing. Yeah. Blobfish? All right. That's a little bit of hometown frustration coming out. Let's, uh, let's move on. Welcome to Ready to Roll, presented by Nissan.

Honestly, I'd put that in the bottom five nicknames you could be called. I would not want to be called blobfish. That would feel bad. Yeah, like in grade school, if you were the blobfish, how, I mean, no hope. Yeah, I mean, the only hope is that. You're going to that dance with the blobfish? No, I'm not taking the blobfish to dance. Yeah, I hope that Petting's family does not let him listen to this episode. No one listens to this show. All right, Jason, move on. So this week, we are going to take a look at, um, incentives. And over the next two weeks, we're going to look more about like team incentives, motivations. That really matters for fantasy football coming into the playoffs, the championship rounds. But right now we get into a place where we can have a couple pieces of insight to specific players and what their contract situations say, hey, I'm going to get a bonus if I get another touchdown. I'm going to get a bonus if I can get 10 more receptions, yada, yada. And we hear this.

after the season every single year, sometimes after the games late in the season. The players know this. All the players on the teams know this. The coaches know this. The coaches are trying to get their players these bonuses. We hear it all the time. We'll hear it again. At the end of this year, yeah, so-and-so needed another touchdown. We drew up the play. It did or it didn't happen, but like they forced the issue to try to get some of these bonuses. So it's good for us to know, hey, you know what? Coach might... trying to force the ball to this guy. Honestly, the areas, you guys might hear this out there and say, well, that's not true. And these teams have higher priorities. And you're right, except it happens a lot late in games. So when games are kind of put to bed, you saw CD Lamb out there for the fourth quarter of games last year to break records for the Cowboys for particular. I mean, that's for records, not incentives. But it's laid in games. I mean, even in the Arizona game.

They very intentionally tried to call a play to get Trey McBride's touchdown. They knew I had guaranteed it on the show. They threw him one of those old Travis Kelsey underhand pitches, and he got stood up on the one inch line, and they didn't get it to him. But I'm telling you, that's McBride and his touchdown. Those are going to come into play at the end of games. And the same will go with some of these incentives, especially for important players. Yeah. So let's break it down by positions. Quarterbacks, there's not a lot here. James Winston, every game that he is the starter of and wins, he's going to get $100,000. So, you know, that's great. He's motivated. And Josh Allen, if he wins the NFL MVP, we'll get one and a half million dollars as a bonus.

So congratulations, Josh Allen. Yeah, I think he's got that luck. You're getting one and a half million. Also, you soups deserve it. Josh, Josh Allen has been unfreaking stoppable. And it's, he does whatever he wants. He does, he does seem like he's playing with, you know, a lower division sometimes. You know what I mean? Where he is, he's out there and he's physically a force every single play. So at the running back position, you got Saquan and Derek Henry. Both of them have big rushing totals, 2,000 plus total rushing and receiving yards for Saquan and 1,500 rushing yards for Derek Henry. They're going to get a lot of money combined over a million dollars, but they're like right there. I think Derek Henry needs about 25 more rushing yards, and Saquan needs like 40 more rushing receiving yards. So that's a done deal. I don't think there's any motivation there.

Derek Henry's teammate, however, this one is interesting to me. Justice Hill needs 50 receptions to get a quarter of a million dollars. And Justice Hill, a lot of times it's these level of players that are, the coaches really care about getting them. They're $250,000. You know, Sequin has his cajillions of dollars. But Justice Hill, he's at 42 receptions right now, needs to get to 50. He's got three games left to get there to get a quarter of a million dollars. Also, if he gets another 125 rushing yards, he gets another quarter of a million dollars. So Justice Hill, I could see, and the Harbaas, they know this stuff. I think down the stretch, you could call it a double whammy. Especially if games are out of hand. Yeah, you could see Justice Hill. So if you're in a flex situation, that could be interesting. Joe Mixing.

uh needs a solid rushing the next uh couple weeks to get another quarter of a million dollars and then another one that i think is by the way the joe mixon one i'm a little scared about how that division is broken down i know we're going to talk about team motivations but like joe mixon needs 1100 yards he's at 910 but i don't know if they can change their seating that much kyle are you listening in here they've they've locked the division up That would be one that we should look into pretty closely. Yeah, we'll look at that and the team motivations here coming up. Their schedule is also pretty tough, Kansas City, Baltimore the next two weeks. So here's one, I think, for fantasy, this is probably one of the sweetest sweet spots. Tony Pollard. If you've got Tony Pollard out there, this is a player that I think is motivated and has some reachable goals. He needs 1,100 rushing yards, and he's got 982.

So he has to get a couple hundred rushing yards in the next three games to hit a quarter of a million dollars and even more important for fantasy. He's two touchdowns away from his contractual bonus. So basically he needs a couple hundred yards and two touchdowns. If you get one touchdown, you know, if he comes out and has a rushing touchdown this week, I promise you he's getting a rushing touchdown. in the final two weeks. He's going to be a tough one too because he left hurt again. So he's dealing with the ankle injury, but he's one of the big names that have those incentives. At wide receiver, Juan Jennings right on the cusp of a big threshold. John Jennings has been making money. Yeah, he's got a lot of incentives. He's already cashed 50% of snaps. That's a $1.5 million. And then another basically $1.2 million for crossing 600 receiving yards at six touchdowns.

He needs one more reception, and he will complete his $3.5 million bonuses. He's been awesome. Yeah, Cortland Sutton has several bonuses. He needs to hit 1,065 receiving yards. You have Mike Evans. That's the big one. That's the big one. Is this the updated numbers 52, 749, and 9? Yeah, so he basically needs 18 receptions. And 250 yards. 250 yards and another touchdown. And he will get a $3 million bonus. So this is like, that's great. You have to bank on Mike Evans to get eight receptions a game right now, 80 yards a game right now and be used around the end zone. He.

I mean, that's not like, you know, a lot of these are you going to get a quarter million dollars. That's $3 million to hit those threshold. That thousand receiving yards streak that he's had going for quite a while, 250 more yards in the remaining games. That's a big one. You know he's going to get that. They will throw a game to get him the thousand yards. So Mike Evans down the stretch, I think obviously if you had them this week, you had a good run and you probably won your fantasy playoffs. I think it'll happen the next two weeks as well. Hunter Henry needs three more receptions for a 250K payout. Johnny Smith needs to stay above the snap count, the 55% of snaps to get $400,000. He's at 59%. And the last interesting one to me is Zach Ertz. Zach Ertz gets a quarter million dollars when he gets to 60 and 600 or 70 and 700. He's at 54 and 526, so he's really close to his first bonus. But he...

left the game with a concussion. And so, you know, this is a player that they probably want him in the playoffs if they get down there. But as far as like motivation to clear and get back on the field and, you know, be really involved, he's really close to that threshold. So I expect to see him again and have him at least get to that first threshold. All right. That was ready to roll. Thanks again to our sponsor, Nissan. Adventure calls in the first ever Nissan Rogue Rock Creek. Visit Nissan.com to learn more. Intelligent all-wheel drive cannot prevent collisions or provide enhanced traction in all conditions.

Always monitor traffic and weather conditions. We'll take a break. We'll hit the news. All right. We are jumping in with some important news as we get ready for the doubleheader on Monday night and then heading into Week 16 of your fantasy playoffs. News and notes from Around the League. Presented by USAA Insurance. Okay. Well, prior to kickoff, we got where the Hollywood Brown could make his debut next week. Oh, Carson Winst is so happy. Right. I mean, let's get into it. Patrick Mahomes left late in the second half of the right high ankle sprain. He's undergoing additional imaging today. Andy Reid said no fracture. X-ray is negative. Next week it's the Texans. Then it's the Steelers. We have talked about the history with high ankle sprains. Oftentimes you either missed no games or you missed three games. And so I think it's a real TBD situation. They're calling this week to week.

Mahomes is tough. He's going to want to play through it. But they are battling for the number one seat. I mean, it makes a big difference if they, you know, if they end up losing some of these games, tough games. Houston, Pittsburgh, and Denver, those are winnable and loseable games. So it could be Carson wins for a week or two. We'll find out a lot more this week. You know, there are players that you're counting on, in particular Travis Kelsey and his kind of lull right now. So are you hoping it's Carson then so that they have a chance to be good for fantasy again? I did go through the mental exercise of what do I think of Travis Kelsey if it's Carson wins, and I didn't really think that was so bad. Yeah, I mean, it's not like Mahomes has been really airing it out.

Or even like, I mean, I want more of the dump-offs. I want more of the short area design stuff that's, you know, less challenging and that's where Kelsey can be your best friend. You know, Titans are dropping like flies right now. I have a bunch of Titans and Dynasty that I'd love to, I would have maybe been tempted to put ahead of Kelsey. Zach Hertz is gone, right? David Najoku just missed another week. Players are going down left and right. So Mahomes is an injury. We're monitoring. Gino Smith left the Sunday night football game with a knee injury, did not return. They said structurally it looks okay. That's good news. Yeah, you know, athletically, we'll see if he can play on it. Tommy DeVito ruled out with a concussion. Tim Boyle was the QB2, now that Drew Locke is out, QB4 for their attempts at fixing that position. QB1 on the Superflex waiver wire. Yeah, and QB1 in our hearts for Malik Navidad. I mean, Malik neighbors got it done.

And it was because Tim Boyle knew what to do. He knew the assignment. He's like, where is Malik? Okay, I'll but throw it that way. That's the smartest thing you can do. This one's a problem. This is my red alert of the week. Alvin Camara left early with a groin injury, didn't return to the Saints game. He's considered day to day. But the problem here, and it's a big one. It's a Monday night football game for the Saints next week. Now, God willing, we find out early in the week that he's doing fine. But when you don't come back into a game, I'm worried. And the Monday night football situation, now you can go pick up Kendry Miller. He's going to be a waiver wire pickup. Yeah. But if he's already picked up in your league and you're looking at Monday night football, the pivot options are not going to be there. You're going to have to make a call on players on Sunday. Yeah. So that's going to be the Green Bay matchup. So really Kendra Miller. With a backup quarterback. Yeah. Really Kendra Miller is your only, you know,

potential option there you're you're going to need to move him to your flex at the very least so that you you open up some wide receivers and you can throw in a christian watson or dontavian wicks if you don't have alvin camara uh but it's it's it's not great and this was a game it was already going to be a problem for camara in this green bay game 14 point underdogs this is the game that he did not come back in against the manders they were Coming back to win. Like, they really, really needed him. And he had a great touchdown catch. It was awesome. He's so good. I can't believe how good Alvin Camara is at 29. He's the running back. Ooh, I would guess three or four? Five. Okay. Yeah. It was, he was on his way. And in a game where he only rushed for 12 total yards, he was the, and left early, running back 13 on the week.

Nick Chubb out for the year, broken foot. That is brutal. It was such a turn of events because we're watching the game and you see Nick Chub streaking down the sideline for a huge touchdown. And we're like, yes, he's finally held. Oh, that's Jerome Ford. That's 34, not 24. Oh, why's Jerome Ford? Oh, Chub broke his foot. So it went from being like, I'm so happy he's healthy to he's done for the year. That stinks. It was reported earlier this morning that the Vikings have not ruled out, by the way, offering Sam Darnold a contract for next season. That makes a ton of sense. I think the Vikings should. They don't know whether or not McCarthy. McCarthy is going to be great. I mean, why not have a competition? It doesn't hurt. They know that they can win a lot of games with Donald. Yeah, yeah. What else? Jalen Wattle. Oh, he did not.

Waddle back into the game like he always does. Yeah, he got hurt. It was a brutal looking, the way he was bent back over. Of course, all Waddle injuries every game are brutal looking and he's writhing in pain. Then he comes back on the field, but unfortunately he didn't. He'll have an MRI today. If he missed his time, I wonder, I wonder what Malik Washington, you know, waiver wire story will be. He would be the next man up. I, I think it'll probably be John O'Smith as the prime beneficiary. Really, really, really, really, which I still had him. Yeah, you could have. You just made a boneheaded decision. Yeah. At least I'm still in the playoffs. Zach Ertz left early due to a concussion. Game's not over yet. Sam Darnold. Look, I can still, if Sam Darnold outscores Justin Jefferson and Bejohn by about 55,