Ice & Fire Picks + Saquon Fears, Slimy Leaguemates - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/6

I think it will happen, but obviously this, it's so funny how quick the NFL changes. I was talking to Mike the other day. I put on an older, like a, you know, a few-year-older Madden Disc, and it was like, oh, Sam Bradford on the Cardinals. That was, I mean, things changed so fast. You're right. Yeah. All right. That was today's news notes brought to you by Sleeper. Sleeper is the best platform for Dynasty leagues, extremely customizable by far the largest dynasty platform out there.

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Look, the ice picks from last season, they were pretty hot. Did we, we iced them out? I think we were three for three. I had, I had Tyler Higby. There was a lot of hype for Higby. Okay. Jason went with Austin Hooper. Okay. More of a pooper. And then Mike, Todd Gurley, I mean, he started off looking like he was going to make you look silly. He was ice and fire. Yes. Or fire and ice. He was succeeding.

while being an ice player. He was succeeding in spite of himself. Yes. Whoops. I scored again. Yeah. All right. So I'm going to start. I have my ice pick for this year. I don't know if I could have more conviction about an ice player than I do for this unfortunate young man. My goal here today is to convince you.

to include him in the ultimate draft kit. It is as a formal official bust. Okay, I'm listening. Because the ultimate draft kit as Sleepers Breakouts, bust values, they're kind of our consensus picks or at least two-thirds of us believe it. And the other one, make sure to mention it in the description of the player that, like, we're against it. But it's McColl Hardman, the chief's wide receiver. Look, when you are hiring somebody.

for an official position, right? Let's pretend you are the... Oh, we're going to do an interview? Yeah, you're the manager of your fantasy team. I want you have a seat here. Thank you for coming to the interview. Yeah, exactly. And the resume turned in by McCall Hardman, connected with all of the hype and excitement and hopes, right? First of all, let's just examine the psychology here. The psychology that exists around loving McCall Hardman or aspiring to the greatness or the future greatness of McColl Hardman,

exists as Sammy Watkins is leaving. Let's just examine the psychology of that, first of all. But here's the resume that McCle Hardman is trying to, he's trying to get the job of a breakout wide receiver on my fantasy team. He's trying to get that job. Here's his resume. He's played 32 games. Would you say that's a lot of games? A decent amount? Yeah, that's a fair sample. In 32 games played in his career with, I don't know, the best quarterback in the history of the game.

One top. Wow, we're already putting Patrick Moles in. He might be. I'm fine with that. One top 12 performance in 32 games. How about 32 games played one game with more than four receptions? So that talent is just demanding the ball, right? 32 games played never hit 100 yards in a game. That's 0% if you are doing the man. Yeah, exactly. We've seen a 32 game sample size. These numbers back up my like eyeballs where I said,

I've said it all offseason, like, I'm just done and out on McCle Hardman because I don't think it can happen for him. Players that have averaged more yards per game in that span, that 32 games span, then McCall Hardman, Anthony Miller, Demir Bird, Chris Conley, James White. How about you just examine, set his resume to the side and just examine the upside for the Chiefs as a wide receiver two? Well, no matter who's played, the wide receiver two on this team, they've all been terrible because you have...

Travis Kelsey, who's truly the wide receiver won, and then Tyree Kill, who's the wide receiver one, right? You have two supreme pass-catching talents. They're like both one and a half. The fantasy finish for the wide receiver two in Kansas City, the last four years with Patrick Mahomes, 58th, 62nd, 51st, and 59th. What we're going to see happen in Kansas City this year is the same thing we always see happen at wide receiver two for Kansas City. Hardman might have a game.

then DeMarcus Robinson might have a game. Then Pringle might have a game. Then Clyde Edwards-Alair might have a game. If you want to bet on the Chiefs, you bet on the top two guys, Kelsey and Hill, that's how the offense runs. And guess what? It's been pretty darn successful. So I think McCall Hardman has no shot. I really don't. He's going to have a big game or a big end-around run or a big touchdown pass. He's explosive.

You know, the last Kansas City wide receiver two to finish inside the top 40 was back in the Bush administration in 2004, which was a long time ago. So I just don't believe. Is that a real stat? That's a real stat. That's a good one. Yeah. So I thought you were just making a joke. No, no, that's real. So I think we've seen enough of Hardman to where I would just say, like I think DeMarcus Robinson's a better wide receiver.

then McCall Hardman is. Right now, DeMarcus Robinson is fighting with Pringle to be the number three. And from what I hear, Pringle is winning the job. And the Hardman is doing well in camp. Once you pop. You know, stop. Yeah. Well, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. He's stopped. But, no, I think Hardman is one of my bigger busts this year. I just don't see the upside. So off your draft board. Yeah, I mean, the draft costs on Hardman, to be fair, it hasn't been a lot yet.

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Like, I haven't drafted him anywhere. I don't know if the hype around camp is actually pushing people to draft him. Obviously, the hope of Mahomes is a big, everyone wants to have a Mahomes breakout. That would be great. I completely agree with you that the wide receiver two is probably irrelevant there, no matter who it is. And so, therefore, he's a bust unless there's an injury. I mean, obviously Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey have been stalwarts of health.

Is that, now that I think about it, like we, Kelsey is one of the, like we had our mock draft yesterday. We drafted three tight ends. Each of us had one of the top three. So Kittle, Waller, Kelsey. If Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid can't support a wide receiver two when a tight end is a primary target, is that instructive of, I mean, not people, people aren't fighting for the Raiders wide receiver two or the Ravens wide receiver two, but like the odds of those two teams sustaining a wide receiver two with a primary target as a tight end have to be zero, right?

It's definitely low, but the question for the Raiders is who is the wide receiver one? Yeah, so the wider receiver two is very, very low. Yeah. We don't know if is it rugs. And then like Bateman and Hollywood and Watkins and Baltimore, kind of a mess. Yeah, it's interesting. All right. I'm going to. Yeah, I want to hear this. I'm going to put some ice on the gas. Make sure it does not catch fire. You're putting.

Sugar in the gas tank. I'm putting sugar in the gas tank. Miles. If you put ice on some gas, that makes it stop. You can't catch it on fire? Wait. I mean, I guess if you put enough and you'll really water it down. I was trying to just go with the ice and fire motif. I see. Gas, gas goes with fire. I was trying to think of my own things. I didn't actually hear.

What you said. You said put ice onto gasoline? I said I'm going to put some ice on this gas. But look, his name is the gas man because his last name is Gaskin. Miles Gaskin is my ice pick, running back for the Miami Dolphins. I have not known what to do with them, so I cannot wait to hear this case. Here's what you do with them. You let someone else draft them and you grab better.

players around him. First of all, in his range, the wide receivers are unbelievable. But even if you are in a spot where you took early wide receivers, you need a running back there. He's going ahead of Travis E.T.N., Kareem Hunt, and Chase Edmonds. Those are three running backs. I would absolutely want a hundred times more than Miles Gaskin.

All four of those are past catching specialists, right? They're, they're PPR guys. So I'm not even making an argument of, well, if you're in a PPR league, no, there's better options than Miles Gaskin. If you draft the gasman, he must see the same volume he saw last year, which was 18 touches a game. Except this isn't the same team as last year.

There's a new offensive – Chan Galey is not the offensive coordinator. There's now this two-headed offensive coordinator monster there, and they brought in Malcolm Brown. And they paid him, and they've talked about how they love his pass protection, which you saw Miles Gaskin shockingly wasn't utilized on third down. You think of him as like this third down back. They brought in a pass protector and a goal line guy. So I think that the upside here with Miles Gaskin is –