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Week 7 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Walk of Shame

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pooped in his big boy pants. I, uh, no, we're starting with the wide receivers. Oh, uh, yeah. And we're starting with this. Walk of shame. Can they break your stride, Andy? I, look, I'm starting with, uh, Jermaine Curse here, my walk of shame. I, guys, I don't feel good. No, look, and we can attest to this foot clan. I've,

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We've all seen tilts. We've all been face to face. We've stared down the devil. But I have never seen my man just liquefy into the couch. His leagues dominated on Sunday. And all he cared about was stupid Jermaine curse. Because apparently that's all the people cared about. I feel bad. I feel real bad. And look, I had a Justin Tucker moment on this show. Oh. And I missed.

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On Jermaine Kirst. And I still feel like the process was right, but I think putting it, you know, pivoting to him as the start of the week, I'm sorry. I didn't know how many people out there were dying for me to say his name to start him. But I've just had so much feedback. People disappointed. I am sorry. It was a perfect storm of suck for that offense. Last week, Darnold completed 18 passes to wide receivers. And that included in Noon prior. Those guys were gone.

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Jermaine Kirst last week had nine receptions. This week, Darnel completed a total of five passes to wide receivers. Five. He had a QBR of 5.9. What? Is that true? He completed 17 of 42 passes. So, Jermaine Kirst played 90% of snaps and Goose. This was just real bad. And I, look, if you started him, I'm sorry. The...

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This is show 633 in our history. This is one of the top times that I, this is the worst I felt about, like Mike said, my team's killed it on Sunday. I was melting into the couch. And you were depressed. Because I just wanted curse to deliver for listeners. And sometimes we get it wrong because basically, we can't see the future. And this relationship with you guys, the listener, it's never changed. We try to find opportunities.

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We try not to be vanilla about everybody. We try to find the right storylines and ultimately present the case for you to decide whether you want to play those guys or not. And I thought that, you know, this one hurts more because I said to go spend your fab on them too. Right. That's why it hurts more. It wasn't putting them in from your bench. It was you signed and you bought him. It was, hey, go get him. And then if you need him, you can play him.

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You know, and it was a miss. It was a miss. And I don't want to compound that miss by saying double down and keep them on your roster. I think you can cut him. You think? Well, look, if you spent fab on him, that's the question, right? I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that everybody out through spent $10 or $15 a fab on him. I just think says,

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Let's just hang on to it. I feel like people should have seen this coming. Whenever the Fantasy Reaper decides to go with a guy whose name is curse. Yeah, you've been cursed. Come on. This is really on you. Sure. Yeah, let's do it. Let's blame them. No, no, no. But, yeah, that was obviously a big poop poop of the week for me because I believed in him wholeheartedly. He wasn't alone in the, I mean, Alan Robinson.

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You know, poop his pants. One for four. You had Tyler Boyd, everyone waiting for, I mean, Tyler Boyd's been just on fire playing great. This was the perfect match. We talked about it in the beginning of the show. The Bengals as a core.

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I mean, it was like if you didn't have AJ Green, Joe Mixen sucked. Tyler Boyd's like everyone was going, where is Tyler Boyd? First half, not even a target. No, and then look, carry on apparently hurt Kenny Galladay and Marvin Jones because they both struggle. Both of them poop their pants. Kenny Galladay, are you concerned, Mike? No, he also had a touchdown called back. I think this was just a product of the game script because what's weird is Kenny Gallaudet, two targets, Marvin Jones, only four.

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I really thought it would be a better day for all of the past catchers in Detroit, but it just didn't work out. I think a lot of the questions that people are going to have with the poopers from today are, can you drop them? When it's someone like Corey Davis, Marquis Goodwin, Pierre Garsohn, probably not owned, but he stunk, Robbie Anderson. Look.

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There wasn't a wide receiver that performed for New York. So Robbie Anderson was 3 for 44 on 10 targets. 10 targets. He's probably the one you want. Is there one you want? This is a Doug Martin situation. Like, yeah. The week before you did. He might have the opportunity, but I just don't think you are ever going to know when to start a guy like that. I would rather roster people that you could be more confident. Well, what about Marvin Jones, guys? I mean, Marvin Jones has really been.

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a tier down, a step down this year, and he hasn't had that monster game. Three for 29 and four targets. If he catches a touchdown, you're kind of okay with him. And then if he doesn't, you're screwed. Yeah, that's his thing is, I mean, for the first four weeks, he was a 50-yard guy, but you do have a pretty good chance of catching a touchdown or getting a fantasy touchdown for Marvin Jones. I'm not dropping Marvin Jones, but you just...

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It's reallocate. He's a wide receiver three. Mike, I'd love you to speak on a player by the name of Antonio Callow. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I really thought he would, I thought he would do something. Now, what is the opposite? The bookland listened to me. Don't worry. Nobody played him.

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To us. Jason. Oh, yes, yes. For two weeks, I've been saying you don't put him in your lineup unless he shows you a week of glory. My man, Antonio Calloway. Cannot catch the ball. No, no. He 100% netted all of us a glorious Nick Shubb touchdown. So thank you Antonio Callow for coming through. That is true. He can draw pass interference. Can you start any Jacksonville wide receiver ever? No. Well, I don't know. Who's the quarterback?

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Blake Bortle. If it's Bortles, no. If it's Kessler, like Moncrief had another solid game, but no, I'm not going to try and... Cubie Poopers? I got a snake, man. Blake Bortles horrible, atrocious. What are the odds that Blake Bortles wins somebody a fantasy title with like some week 15, 16 performances? At least, yeah, it's pretty hard. I mean, I absolutely think Blake Bortals wins people, Fantasy Chambers. He does it every single year because this is the time of year.

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When it's like, oh, yeah, okay, he does suck. He's terrible. He gets, you know, he's going to get dropped everywhere. He's benched into his own team. And then he'll come back and have monster games later because that's like the definition of bordling. If Fournette comes back and they get their defense on track and Bortles is still the starter at that point in time, yeah, you probably got a better option that got you to the playoffs. Andy Dalton, terrible game. We know it. Hey, 15 for 29 for 148 and 1.

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I think he got too locked in on AJ Green, and it just cost him. Not too worried. He's got Tampa Bay next. I'm going to keep him on my roster. I'll play him next week. Running back, poopers. Bad game for Ezekiel Elliott. This means pretty much nothing to you as a fantasy owner. You play Ezekiel Elliott every week. It was just a rotten game, and it cost you. Ingram, he got the short end of the stick on the Camara split this week, including around the goal line. He was only 12 for 32.

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Baltimore is the best defense in football, in my opinion, right now. And so you take your lump. But he has to go into Minnesota next week. Yeah, it could be another rough week. But just hold on to Mark Engram. Better days are coming. Corey Clement, maybe the biggest pooper of the week, eight for six, barely did anything, faces Jacksonville next week. What do you even make of him? Because Josh Adams got snaps in the backfield for Philadelphia. Windle Smallwood had a ton of snaps. This is a mess.

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Yeah, it's absolutely a mess. And it's, it's now for, for Corey, it's turned into touchdown or bust. And that's very unfortunate. Yeah, I mean, Wendell Smallwood had nine carries. Corey Clement had eight carries. There wasn't a whole lot of. But that's what they were like the game script was if you didn't watch the game, I mean, the Eagles were in control.

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of the game for the vast majority of the time. So I agree that final drive. I agree that they were in control. They were up 17 nothing going into the fourth quarter. So it's a positive game script. But it wasn't going well. It wasn't, they weren't dominating the Eagles from an offensive outpouring standpoint. And I think, or the Panthers. And the Panthers are a good defense. So I'm not, I'm not at in any way, shape, or form.

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getting rid of Cory Clement or... Well, I'm not getting rid of him. This is a confidence situation. Yeah. There's like, I mean, we said it at the, during the show last week, Clement feels capped. Yes. And then it was proven by the Josh Adam snaps this week. So you, you cannot go. Are you going to play him against Jacksonville? I'm not. I think he's on the flex conversation for Jacksonville, yes. Full sit for me. I think either he's still banged up or they don't trust him to the degree that they want to make him the guy.

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So I'm going to put him in the Callaway category. Wow. From now on, no. In the Callaway? By Calloway category, I mean, prove it until you prove it, you don't get a start. But he has proved it. Calloway has never done Jet Squad. He hasn't proved it. I mean, 11 for 43 in a touchdown the week prior when he was on limited snaps. He's had another touchdown. That touchdown saved that fantasy production. That's not proof. Does that prove a whole?

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rest of season production for him? Oh, I mean, we've seen it. If you go back last year, we've seen Cory Clement be a quality player. I don't agree with you. We haven't seen Calloway be a quality player. What would, I mean, Clement last year was not a, he was a bit part player that occasionally had a touchdown, had very limited snaps. I don't think that Josh Adams would not have had an uprising in snaps to that degree and small would have the high leverage. Game on the line, okay? They're coming down to win the game.

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trying to come back on Carolina. Corey Clement is nowhere to be found. Take that for what you will. Yep. Do you pick up Josh Adams? No. No. I think it's just a terrible situation. I'm glad you said no. I was going to call you out on your logic. Yeah, I did. Okay. Thought you trapped him? I thought I got him. You were going to call me out on the hypothetical logic I did not have. Jordan Reed, Kyle Rudolph, boo, bad weeks.

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Jordan Reed, two for 43, despite the fact they had no pass getgers in Washington. Yeah, I was going to say bad week or led the team in receiving yards. This is both are true. Watching Alex Smith play football is painful. That is all. It's insanity. Right, but it's just, it's crazy that we've gone from Alex Smith of last year to top five fantasy quarterback. It's Andy Reid. Absolutely.

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just reverted to everything that he was before. It's painful. And then Kyle Rudolph at this point, can you drop Kyle Rudolph? No. No, you can't drop Kyle Rudolph. Now, what if I had, if I said a different player with a different name with the same stat line, would you still say that? And that's not saying, I'm not trying to catch you in a logic. Before this week where he busted, he was the ninth ranked tight end in fantasy football. And he's on a good offense, so I would say no.

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8652. Tighten's suck. I mean, I'm not saying like, oh, he's great. I get it. I get it. I get it. I wouldn't drop him unless there's a surefire upgrade. But there's not. It seems that when Cousins is deciding who to pass the ball to, it's always Adam Thiel. It's always Adam Thiel. Although Stefan Diggs had 14 targets this week. Do not forget about him. What do he have like 33 yards? He was bad. Well, he had eight receptions and limited.

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Total yardage. All I'm saying is I would look at Diggs as a possible by low because of that target sure each and every week. And Thielen's overwhelming the minds of everybody and Thelan's amazing. But Stefan Diggs with 14 targets tells me you target a player like that. Yeah. Target the targets, man. Ooh. All right, we're going to answer a couple of mailbag questions before he close out the show. Mailbag. Mailbag. Oh, yeah. All right. You got a question. Go to the website. The fantasy footballers.com. Click the submit a question button.

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or dial a voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB. First question here from Tim in New Hampshire. I traded Jordan Howard. I got him off the waiver wire from a dummy who dropped him. All right. And Kenyon Drake, so he traded Howard and Drake for Dalvin Cook. Love the podcast, thanks. Say hi to your mother for me. No, I like it. I do like it. I like it a lot. Really? Yes, because Howard, like, look how many points.

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