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Buy or Sell + TNF Preview, Business Decisions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/6

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definitely playing chenault over Alan Robinson for the foreseeable future until Alan Robinson proves to me that he's actually a part of this offense in Chicago. Yeah, one of the things that was said before the show was there seems to be a long ways from where Robinson is now to where you would want him to be and where you would be confident in him. And there's the possibility that this is it.

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I mean, this is last year there. They have a quarterback problem. You outlaid it perfectly. Chanel has more upside this week, and he may have more upside in the future, and you may have to just grin and bear it or accept it. The sooner you accept it, maybe the better your team ends up, and it's tough. It's really tough. Now, um...

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Jason's over here just making notes. What are you doing over here, Jay? Some personal work. He's just in the middle of a show for our listeners. Oh, did our waivers run. And our waivers went through in League of Record. And, you know, just so you know, in our league, someone paid $92 for Damian Williams. Yep. Yep. I mean, Mike and I both went in. So you tell me I didn't get him. No, you did. Mike and I both went in for a Hagar.

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We did not get him. We wouldn't have got him. There was a $63 bit, a $67 bit, and the winning $92 bit. And even some player, like Somagai P. Ryan went for $40 Fab. Wow. That seems very high. Whoa. So there you go. And Jason is making notes over here and players he wants to trade for. Yeah. Something like that. I think it Alex Collins. So that's good. What did you bid on Alex Collins? 11. Okay. Keep in mind.

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I have no Christian McCaffrey and no David Montgomery. That's a fine price because he could have lasting value. This is a side note. Clearly, it didn't work out for me with my fab bit of 55. But I used my detective skills. Went and looked. I saw my opponent, Jason, who desperately needed to get Damien Williams. And I took my educated guess of what is Jason going to bid, knowing that I had the priority.

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Should we tie? And I had $55 Fab. So that's exactly where I went. I wasn't willing to go, you know, like I wasn't willing to throw everything at him. But I was just, you know, that's a little side game note. When you're when you're looking at how much you should bid, first thing you should do is you should go see how many points or dollars the rest of the managers out there and have. 100%. It's a really good piece of advice at this time of the year. You don't think about it in the beginning of the year because everybody has fab. But, but this from here on out.

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When you're placing your bids, go look at the rest of the league and how much cash they have to spend. Yeah, I really went back and forth on whether to pay a dollar for Jeremy McNichols or try to get him for free. And I'm very, fortunately, I paid a dollar because you would have had him, Jason. Would I? I don't think that's true. I think my roster would have been capped out. I got Crowder and Alex Collins ahead.

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All right, enough about us. Let's grab a question, Adam Holland. Should I trade CD-Land before the week five games? If he puts up three stinkers, his trade value may plummet. He's the inverse of the on-fire rules right now with a couple of disappointing performances. I feel like people's view of C.D. Lamb right now is just holding strong. No real change in outlook from draft day.

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But are you concerned? I mean, I think we've talked about it a little bit. Would you trade him now or would you just hold in hope? And the following question here also with C.D. Lamb, I love is Michael Nolan writes in, CD Lam or Corey Davis is my question, exclamation point. Yeah, so one of the notes that Andy saw me writing down was trade for CD because to me.

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I'm what Andy said. His value hasn't really changed from draft day from what I've seen. He had basically 190 yards through the first two weeks. Week three was unnecessary as they blew out the Eagles and then had a down week this last week. So if managers are out there worried and saying, do I need to unload him now, I'll kick the tires and see if I can get a discount on him because as we've talked about, all wide receivers have down weeks. You know, you had two.

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worse weeks from Tyree Kill back to back. And I don't look at this offense as bad. I don't look at C.D. Lamb as bad. I don't look at anything in this situation as overtly negative. And if I had to make the decision between C.D. Lamb and Corey Davis, that's an easy C.D. Lamb for me. I think that there is some stuff that's changed in Dallas because of the success they're having in the running game. I mean, Dak Press got through for 188 yards in a win where they had over, what, 30 points.

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That wasn't an outcome I thought was possible. But in that same game... He threw four touchdown passes. Right. But he was an inch away from one of those touchdown passes being C.D. Lamb, right? Like... Yeah, but you don't... I mean, I'm just saying, like, what I believed about Dallas before the season was that these games weren't possible. I would not have believed before the season that DAC could throw for 188 yards and they could score 36 points. I would not believe that they could have scored 36 points in C.D. Lam only have two.

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fantasy points in that game. Those are both things that change my outlook on Dallas, not to say that you shouldn't trade low on him, but these were not outcomes I expected. Yeah, I would go get C.D. Lamb. You just, this is now part of your process is knowing that every once in a while you'll see a game where they're able to establish the run and they're able to hold it through the entire game. The,

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You kind of illustrated it, Andy, with the talk about the attempts that DAC had last week in a 36-point victory. And to illustrate that further, C.D. Lamb had five targets. That was a 23% target share. So that means that in the offense when they were actually throwing, C.D. Lamb was still a humongous part of it. It was 50% of the wide receiver target share. Yeah. So I would definitely go trade for C.D.

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there are much bigger and better days of coming for Mr. Lamb. Todd in Wisconsin, is Jeff Wilson going to be the number one option at running back when he returns from the P-U-P? Who knows? Kyle Shanahan is a wacky guy. Why don't you guys handicap it? That was from the depths. Trey Sirm and Elijah Missal, who may or may not be involved this week, Jeff Wilson has the longest history with Shanahan.

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Odds that Wilson comes into a majority role, a fantasy relevant role on his return, Jason. I would put it at about 50%, which is why I say, who knows? I could absolutely see that happening. Or you could say, well, it's his first week back. They've got three backs. Let's make it a three-headed monster. I mean, we've seen that from Shanahan before. It is very, very difficult to...

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pretend to know. I guess it's easy to pretend, but that's what you're doing when you claim that you have an inside track to the mind of Shanahan and how he's going to game plan for opponent X based on the running backs he has at hand. We've seen that already through this year. And I mean, if it's a use check game or it's a sermon game or a missile or Jeff Wilson, it's really, really difficult.

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So I was not necessarily asking the question in the context. When I heard when he returns from the PUP, I was not thinking like game one. I was thinking like from that point on into the season that the odds that Wilson be fantasy relevant. If everyone is completely healthy in that backfield minus Rahim Moster, obviously, who is gone, then I would put it at two thirds. I think 66% that Jeff Wilson would be the primary guy.

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I think there are two separate questions. I don't think he'll be the primary guy, but I think he'll be fantasy relevant. He can catch passes. That's the one thing that he's done historically. He will be the goal line. He'll be the red zone and the goal line running back, which is why he will have fantasy relevance because they score a lot of rushing touchdowns. My bet would be that Mitchell will be Rahim Mostert and Jeff Wilson will.

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Go back to being Jeff Wilson. It's funny because, you know, Mike, I know Jeff Wilson was a key to your championship last year. The last two games of the season, the last two times we saw him, he was the number five overall running back and the number seven overall running back in fantasy football. He was the last man standing. He also received like a lot of targets over the last five weeks. His target pace was 71.

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for the last five weeks last year. That's not something we've seen missile do. That's not something we've seen sermon do yet. But you're right. But I'm saying like Mostert was gone. If my memory is correct, most of it was gone. Yeah, but he was gone for the end and so was Tevin Coleman. Like Jeff Wilson was it. Yeah, and obviously they're too. I mean, they had Michael Hasty, didn't they? Yeah. So I, I'm just wondering.

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I can't remember who was actually healthy. Did you gain confidence in Trey Sermin after this week's performance? Do you think the team did, I guess? He looked better. Meanwhile, Kyle Yu's check, great friend of the show, What Up Juice, played on over 80% of the offensive snaps. Okay, congratulations. Was that abnormal to his normal snap count? Yes. Yes. I heard someone mentioned, I have not vetted it, but I heard that that was like the highest.

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percent of snaps for his San Francisco career? Yeah, 82% previous week, 69, 59, 36. I don't think they have confidence in sermon. That's what I was going to say. That speaks very highly to the fact that they're making it work right now without the options they're happy with. Yeah, and this wouldn't be the first time that Shanahan has drafted a player in a running back in that range and then turned on them quickly. Interesting.

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And there's a lot that can happen in San Francisco. What was that guy's name? For the running back that quote Kyle Shanahan pounded the table for a couple years back. Joe Williams. Yes. Oh, yeah. I mean, this feels a lot like that. Yeah, I mean, do we give Kyle Shanahan too much credit? Yes. Because his career record, all of these draft and personnel decisions, whether it's, you know, it's one thing to blame, you know, you can make fun of him blame Dante Pettis.

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Well, he's Kyle Shanahan's second round pick, right? Or third round pick. As was, you know, Trace Serman, a high draft pick. I mean, Shanahan is part of it. They do have a GM as well. But does he get too much credit for being a genius? Yes. But his offense is, when he has the pieces that he needs, his offense is elite. He has a very. It was just in the Super Bowl. Yes. Two years ago. He is a very, very good.

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head coach in a very brilliant offensive mind. And those two truths make us give him a free pass on everything and paint with too broad of a brush stroke. I think we ignore some of the faults. And obviously they've dealt with interest. This is what you're saying, though. We like rationalize it away. He's won more than six games one time in four seasons with San Francisco. And then he. But all the injuries. Yeah. I mean, last year the injuries was a fair excuse to me. Belichick misses all the time in the draft.

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And he's still considered the greatest coach of all time. Okay. All right. Just say no one. Greatest coach of all time. Mike's quote for Kyle Scho. No, Bill Belichick. Oh, no. I thought you were saying, Kyle Shannon. Oh. How dare you? All right. Aaron in Oregon. Why is Nagy listing Montgomery is doubtful so I can't put him in my IR spot. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's a budget magician and he just, it's it. Honestly.

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Truly. It's just a power play. It's to troll everybody. Yeah, it's just a power play to show like he's in charge. He's not going to do what y'all want him to do. He's going to do what he wants to do and you're going to deal with it. And that's just stupid. Reverse psychology would work very well on Matt Nagy. Oh, yeah. For sure. It would be so easy. Yeah. Someone get around him and treat him like a five-year-old.

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I just feel like he's trying, like you said, it's power. You don't have control over so much anymore. Oh, I don't have the play call, but I could take the play calls back anytime I want to. We're a team. We know what we're doing. Yeah. Why is he doing that? Because he wants to ruin your fantasy team, because that's. No, he does it because he's a clown. All righty. Twitter, Apple Jacks, trade Debo, Samuel for Calvin Ridley? Question mark?

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Interesting. So Debo Samuels obviously... Number three right now. He's been magma. He is the centerpiece of that offense. He is what's moving it along. Obviously has never had a full season of dominance. He's got a healthy injury history, if you can use that ironically. I like it. You know, Calvin Ridley has done nothing but dominate as an NFL wide receiver. And...

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