Week 12 Waivers & QB Streamers, Machine Gun Mike

Yeah, I know, but you're saying you've got to pick one. You would of course rather have the Jacksonville. All right. I mean, they turn the Steelers over and, you know, pretty much made it competitive. I guess they're pretty well owned, but so you won't play Buffalo. The over under in the game is 37 and a half points. What? It's the lowest of the entire week. The game's in Buffalo. Oh, so I would start both defenses with confidence. I mean, if Buffalo can slow Leonard Fournette down, I mean, it's kind of like,

what's going to happen. Yeah. You know, New England as well, another good deal. Josh McCown, we were all excited to see him because he's kind of been this, you know, crazy comicosey. He's a mythical man these days. Mythical gunslinger. He just kind of sucked last week. It's like, eh, maybe this time is come. And so, yeah, I don't think New England's going to be the get right game for McCown if he plays. Fair enough. All right. Let's get into the quarterbacks. Full stream ahead.

If New England somehow out there, they're a good start against the Jets. Yes. And Mr. McCown. So I was the first one into the show doc to pick my streamer, which means it's James Winston. Wee. He's widely available and he's playing against the San Francisco 49ers. And as we talked about Tampa Bay quarterback equals quarterback two on the year, James, it's frustrating to watch. He's going to turn the ball over, but he's also.

likely to throw 300 yards and a couple touchdowns. Okay. Speaking of a couple touchdowns, my start of the week is a guy who has been throwing a couple touchdowns in his last four games, which has been a real change, obviously, for the Cleveland Browns. He's on pace for 36 touchdowns and eight interceptions. That's bad statistical manipulation on a small sample size. You're just saying over the four games. Yes, over the four games stretch. I mean, he's been throwing multiple touchdowns every week. He's got a great matchup.

this week against Cincinnati, who is the 31st best team against quarterbacks. You know, the offense seems to be finally clicking, and I believe in Baker. I think he is an exceptional talent. Things are coming together. The matchup is right. I would be absolutely fine streaming him, and he can still get it done with his legs as well. Some have called John Gruden, you know, not dependable as the head coach. But I tell you what's dependable.

That defense has given up two or more touchdowns. The Oakland Raiders have given up two plus in seven straight games. Including to Josh Rosen. Yeah. And the rage has really screwed the pooch last week losing to the Cardinals. Yeah. Going for that number one pick. Yeah. Yeah. They beat the Cardinals. Yeah. Insert Ravens quarterback here. I'm starting and streaming a Ravens quarterback. If Lamar Jackson is available, you'll play Flacco. You got to grab them. And if Joe Flacco was back. Yeah.

Would you rather play, I mean, I guess you're saying you would play Flacco, but Nick Mollins against Tampa Bay is also an intriguing matchup. No, I'll take the Oakland matchup. You'll take the Ravens. Yeah, I don't. As well as Nick Mullen started his career and he played pretty well last week, there's still just rookie variables that are troublesome.

Those games, you know, the more film you get on a player, the more you see them struggle. Yeah, Tampa Bay had a lot of film on Eli Manning. Well, sure. Didn't work out. But that's different because Eli's, you know, he's an established quarterback. Nick Mullins. Oh, he's established. Nick Mullins, Eli Manning has seen everything. Nick Mullins has not seen everything the defenses have thrown at in a game. And because of that, there's just more variability. They've made statues out of Eli Manning by this point. And they even allow those statues.

On the field behind the center. To be the quarterback? To be the quarterback. Yeah, he's the first player in quarterback in history that will actually, his bust will go into the Hall of Fame, but it will be, it will be him. It will just, he'll be there running. Yeah. But you can't tell. Yeah. Looks frozen. I got it. Let me ask you guys this. I was asked this on the podcast last night, too. Eli Manning and Philip Rivers. Are they Hall of Famers? Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers is to me.

I am a firm no on both guys. Philip Rivers is a hall of favor to me. I feel like if you say yes to Philip Rivers, you have to say yes to Eli Manning because of the Super Bowls. He's won two Super Bowls. Yeah. I hate the Super Bowl argument so much. For quarterbacks to me, it still does make sense. Multiple Super Bowls make sense. And I don't want Eli in because he's not a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback. And that's why I don't want Philip Rivers in.

Those guys will always be attached to each other because they were draft a trade. You know, there's, there's. I think if you take Eli Manning and you give, he's got two Super Bowls and he's got two Super Bowl MVP's. Right. And then the streak of consecutive games started, which is hard to do in the NFL. If you take those things into account, he's in Hall of Famer. Oh, he'll be in the, I'm fully convinced Eli will be a Hall of Famer. But no, he's not, he's not even one of the best 10 quarterbacks in the league.

Even in his prime? Uh, not in his prime. Okay, in his prime, maybe he was eight. I don't know about that. No, I agree with that. But is that Hall of Fame? He's like the sixth best quarterback. Well, if I keep saying, uh, and you'll move him up. I mean, you've gone from 10 to 8 to 6. Shouldn't you have to be, to be Hall of Fame? Shouldn't you have to be like, I don't know, top three in the league at some point? Well, maybe. Maybe, yeah. As of.

I mean, there's a Drew Breeze. Is he a Hall of Fame? He's never won an MVP award. Yes. Because he was never the, in his generation, he was never the number one. And he is a top three quarterback year in and year out. Top three in fantasy. In real life. Well, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers. They were all ahead of him during most of Bree's career. So that.

That absolutely right now destroys your argument. No, it doesn't. Oh, your argument's in shambles. How does having mutilated? You literally are saying my argument. He is a top three quarterback. Literally right now. No. He's the top three quarterback of. So if you're a top three for one season, you're in the Hall of Fame. I said you have to at least be a top three quarterback at some point. Eli Manning never got there. Drew Brees has been there multiple times and certainly this year. Does this matter, guys? Both.

Rivers and. I thought that was going to be the end of the sentence. Does this matter, guys, at all? Like is that? Oh, there's that too. Rivers and Manning are both top eight in passing touchdowns and passing yards all time. Yeah. I mean, Eli Manning had 4,400-yard 35 touchdown season. I'm pretty sure that puts him in the top five on the course of his season. Yes, he's a Hall of Fame. Yeah, I think so. He will be. He shouldn't be.

352 career touchdowns. If his last name were McLaughlin, he wouldn't get in. Nepotism. If McLaughlin had two Super Bowl MVP's and two, well, let's pull the audience. Yeah, we should do that. Let's put this. Hey, we got Joe Holka in the studio today. Oh, yeah, Joe. We get the shout out. Eli Manning, is he a Hall of Famer, Joe? Will be, but. Okay. So Joe's just.

Joe is a smart guy, and he is completely echoing everything I say. But you can't hear him, so might not be true. That's why we're telling you. He's going to get in. Probably doesn't deserve it. However, I would love this to be a poll question. Yes, let's put this on our community tab on YouTube. Baby Josh, take care of that. If you haven't been involved, we've got a rocking community tab. We need the four options. Four options. It's either Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, both or neither. Yep. Yeah.

There you go. That'll be the poll. Check it out on the community tab on our YouTube. YouTube.com slash the fantasy football. Do you realize, gentlemen, because I'm about to hit this outro button, do you realize that the only thing that stands between us in a Megalodon episode is this outro button? Oh, man. Meg. Megalaya. Tomorrow. I'm ready. Hey. Oh, I'm ready. Check out draft.com slash ballers, the studio sponsor. We will see you tomorrow for the Megalodon. Bye.

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