Let’s Talk Trades + Week 9 Buy or Sell, TON of Info - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/4

And then no other can showed up. So I missed the garbage for a week. I had extra garbage. Oh, you missed the garbage. Yeah. Backfire. Look, we'll do what we can. I mean, you can probably buy one off your neighbors. Can you do that? Can you go up to your neighbors and just offer them cash money? I haven't checked pristine auction yet. Signed garbage can by Terrell Pryor. Now that. Way to bring it. Bring it home there.

All right, trade talks. This one comes in from Twitter. Would you trade away? This is from at miso onion jam, says trade away Michael Thomas for Kareem Hunt. And there are so many layers into this because will Michael Thomas be back? Will he be the same Michael Thomas? Kareem Hunt is going to the buy this week and Nick Chubb could be, you know, rounding the corner in terms of recoverating.

Yeah, it's a great question. I am a huge Kareem Hunt fan and believer. And so Kareem Hunt to me.

is a good trade for target because... Really? Yes. Because people are bailing. Because people are bailing. People are disappointed. They lost Nick Chubb and they didn't get what they wanted. And if you actually look at the workhorse percentage, we've got it on the usage tab, you could see that when Nick Chub went out, Kareem Hunt didn't really change that much in his volume and what he was getting, the expectation, the hope that he would just completely dominate, have that role. It didn't happen. But I think you can buy...

Kareem Hunt on the cheap. And I would do that in general. I would try to kick the tires because he's a solid running back who can still, even when Chubb comes back, have a top three performance on a week. All that being said, buying cheap is not Michael Thomas. So you still believe in Michael Thomas long term? I still believe in Michael Thomas. I think the rest of the season he will be what we...

drafted him to be, which is a top five wide receiver. It sucks having waited this long. Your team probably has a losing record or has taken a couple L's because of the loss of Michael Thomas. But I believe he is back. He was really close to being back this last week. It stinks that you've had the double up of two completely different injuries. Double up. That's not a good double up. No, it's not. Coming back against Tampa Bay could be...

Not as great as the rest of the year. But I'm with you. I mean, the Saints recipe for success is to force feed their greatest players, which is Alvin Camara and Michael Thomas. And they can do it without anybody stopping them all the time. You don't break the reception record. And then like teams in week 11, 12, 13 were like, oh, wait, they're throwing to Michael Thomas. They knew it all year long and it never stopped him. Yeah. I mean, he will be great when he comes back. Now you've got the question of health. What if he misses another week?

He's also, as Brooks has kindly reminded us, the Sunday night game. Well, if he misses another. Kareem Hunt's on by. So they both could miss this week, but Thomas could be back. I'm saying you have to make your decisions in the morning, not really 100% confident that Michael Thomas is going to play. I mean, we're early in the week if Michael Thomas is getting full practice in on Friday.

I mean, to Andy's point, if this is, you know, if you put him towards your flex, it's not like you would have had Kareem Hunt to put in there anyway. So you're not really losing an opportunity. You just want to find a pivot. You know, if Trey Kwan Smith is available, something like that, you can pivot. Now, it's worth saying this. We say this every time that we have a running back for wide receiver one for one trade, it really is team dependent.

It's not just always a 100% I would rather have Michael Thomas. If your team needs a running back and you are desperate and you've been winning without Michael Thomas and you can go get Kareem Hunt for basically free added to your team, there's a situation where I would do that. I don't think it's outlandish, but in a vacuum without team needs factored in, I would prefer Michael Thomas.

All right, anything to add there, Mike? Nope, I agree. Another Michael Thomas question, though. Would you trade Chris Carson away to get Michael Thomas? I would not. I believe, the way you're saying, I believe Michael Thomas. I believe in Chris Carson. He was a 50-50 chance to be back last week. The team needs Chris Carson. DJ Dallas, great. He came through with a big fantasy day.

Incredibly inefficient, not necessarily great for the team except for a little bit in the passing chops. Through the first five weeks before Chris Carson hit the injury week, he was the running back five in weeks one through five. He has been great. He had one finish outside of the top 24 and he was the running back 26. The Seattle Seahawks are melting people's faces with their offense and that includes.

a bunch of opportunities for Chris Carson, which turns in huge opportunities to score touchdowns. So I want Chris Carson on my team as I'm getting ready to make a playoff push. I certainly like Chris Carson a little bit more than Cream Hunt. So to me it's very close. It's really even this is solely a team-dependent trade. But I do want to bring up Michael Thomas' schedule. We're talking about preparing for the playoffs. The next couple weeks are a little bit hard.

It's got Tampa Bay, San Francisco, and he's coming back from injuries. So maybe you won't see what you want. But after that, as we enter the stretch from week 12 on, or week 11 on, Atlanta, Denver, which is a passing funnel defense right now. Okay. Atlanta. Oh, double up. Philadelphia. Then you've got Kansas City. Okay. And Minnesota. I mean, that's pretty nice. I want those games.

Chris Carson, by contrast, weeks 13, the Giants, 14, the Jets, 15, the football team. And then week 16, the ramps. Okay, throwing it on there. He has dealt with injuries twice this year. Yes. Both players have, obviously. Michael Thomas has dealt with a lot of injuries this year. Yeah, I mean, if you need a running back, I think that's a fair, very fair market deal. I still think people are for some reason really under us.

underestimating what Michael Thomas does to a fantasy roster. That's fair. We do forget. We are forgetful. It's been a very, very long time since we've seen Thomas. All right. A Twitter question from Nick Kasseri. Is it worth it to package Clyde Edwards Aller and a wide receiver two for a player like Miles Sanders? Ooh. I'm looking at Clyde Edwards Aller plus Woods and Robbie Anderson.

Woods or Robbie Anderson, that's right. Yeah, so the wide receiver two, Robert Woods or Robbie Anderson. I think I would make this move, assuming you have the wide receiver depth, which is easier to recover from Miles Sanders and the Philadelphia Eagles, they are on the by week. All the injury speculation and projection was for Miles Sanders to be rested through the buy, and then he will be back. Miles Sanders has been...

sensational for fantasy football when he's on the field, much like Michael Thomas, though, Miles Sanders has had multiple injuries throughout this year. And Clyde Edwards-Alaire, if you can change his decreasing and diminishing workload and opportunities into Miles Sanders for the price of throwing in Robbie Anderson, I think I would be willing to do that.

All right, Instagram. Would you trade Clyde Edwards-Alair, Jason? Would you trade them away for Ezekiel Elliott? Oh, that's a good one. There's a lot of those. Yeah, I've wondered really, I mean, this week when trades opened up in our League of Record, we had kind of, for those who want to understand why we're talking so much trades in our specific League of Record, is that.

We had kind of declared you can't trade draft picks until week eight is concluded because we wanted to know that we were going to have a complete season and we're willing to declare a champion, which is kind of ironic because the NFL, I don't know if you guys saw this, the NFL came out with their proposed contingency plan for a short season in the fact that they were basically willing to go to a 16-team tournament. If for some reason more bi-weeks were lost, or we had weeks that were lost to COVID.

And so, you know, you're getting to that point where enough of the season has taken place where it's worthwhile to declare a champion, right? You don't have a lost season. But I've thought about Zeke. Do I pursue Zeke? He is the absolute perfect example of buying low on an elite producer. But the question that you have to ask and why I'm setting it up this way is, you know, you have to be convinced that he will be what he.

can be, not that this is the trend forever, and that's the hard part of trading. Yeah, I think it's very tough. When you trade for a player like Zeke, who's had three bad games, the offense looks trash, you're on the third string quarterback, it feels like there is no light at the end of the tunnel. And there is. Zeke is not going to just be...

This awful running back for the rest of the season. Zach Martin is back. Andy Dalton will come back, which now is like, oh, yeah. Give me that Andy Dalton guy. How you like me now? He has never looked better. So I, you know, I do think I would trade Clyde Edwards-Alaire, who has been disappointing in his own right. The way that I look at it is Clyde Edwards-Alair might actually be a safer floor.

If Zeke ends up the last three games, the new baseline of Zeke, I just don't believe that's the new baseline. They both, neither one of these players are passed thereby. I think they have the same by week and week 10. And then the schedules are fine for both players. I would take the shot on Zeke. And to illustrate what's happened to Clyde Edwards-Aler, his workload over the past couple weeks since the addition of Levium Bell, we saw the great week six against Buffalo.

but then weeks in which he had 74% of the running back attempts. Week 7 against Denver, that number dropped to 47%. And then it was down to 32% against the New York Jets. Both games were pretty wacky. Both games were blowout victories for the Kansas City Chiefs. Not that they can't keep doing that.

I don't want to get stuck in the loop of, well, it was another wacky blowout win for the Kansas City Chiefs because the workload has been affected by Levi-on-Bel. It's just how much, we don't know what the truth of Clyde Edwards-Alaire and the Levi-a-Bel work, a timeshare, actually is yet. Yeah, and I mean, we know that it's not, it wasn't going to be all Clyde, no matter what, you know, Darrell Williams was getting worked in here and there, and it can be.

difficult to distance the expectation for Clyde before the season what we've seen from rookie running backs from the reality for Jonathan Taylor or Clyde Edwards Aller. Twitter question from Mark Kohler. My league has consistently had no trades for the past four years. I think there was one trade that I did two years ago. I proposed several trades again this year with no response or just declined. What do you think of a league like this? What do you think, Jay?

I think that's a pretty sucky league, to be honest. I think your league is inactive. And it seems to me like it's a league without communication. You'll have waivers go through every week. People are setting lineups. But I'm doubting that there's a bunch of talking going on, a bunch of trash talk, a bunch of outlooks. And, you know, do you not have a group communication?

platform where you could talk to the league as a whole, and even if you have it, is it being utilized? Because when that communication happens, trades usually flow. When excitement around the league and the hype is there, that's where trades flow. Either these, you know, other players aren't going to get involved and they're not going to change and become trading partners, in which case maybe add a league to your repertoire.

or you need to change that by facilitating communication and excitement. Yeah, I mean, the truth is, and I know we've had frustrations with certain managers in the past in different leagues, sometimes people just, it's incompatible to be active to the degree that you would want for a league in their life. And that's okay. I mean, people are too busy to, you know, I think that's what it is for some people. You know, you get an offer. You don't have time to look at it. You never have time to make your own offers.