Fantasy Football - Breakout Picks + Injury Anger, Mike Returns! - Podcast for 8/17

It did time up. Nothing to see here. It timed up with Bijon and Gibbs getting money. Yeah, there's some, the bushes are whispering. I think the bushes are just hopeful, man. Yeah, I do too. Josh Downs exited with another injury. Hardfall on his back. Tried to walk it off, was in pain and had to leave for a few snaps. Don't know the severity. Alec Pierce not expected to practice this week. Go draft Ashton Doolin. Yeah, there's like no whiteouts right now in Indianapolis. The goodness is if.

You know, unlike when Mike Williams would have those terrible tumbles to the ground and injure himself, which is what Josh Downs did, not a lot of weight on him, fell on him. That's true. Light is a feather. I'm going to hit the button for this one, but Saints head coach Callen Moore said the team is, quote, still in collection mode regarding Jordan Tyson's hamstring. Leave the red light on me. I mean, this is, this is really. It sucks. It's really not good.

The range of outcomes here on this injury, for those that don't know, Jordan Tyson, top 10 draft pick from ASU, multiple hamstring injuries while at ASU, had a hamstring injury in the draft process, was just getting some of the best publicity possible with some of these, you know, routes he was running in practice. He looked amazing. I mean, and this is why he was the number one scouted wide receiver for us. We watched.

how twitchy he was at ASU. It was amazing. But this hamstring is now genuinely threatening, potentially his entire season. I want people to understand. Surgery is a potential outcome of the hamstring injury to Jordan Tyson. It doesn't mean it is the outcome, but when you have to say you're still in collection mode, you don't get to, oh, we hope he's back soon.

Remember, pay attention to bad news, not good news. You're seeking doctors' opinions because you don't know. You don't like the first few opinions. You do not usually. I'm just putting this out there. When you see, oh, guy has a hamstring problem, they don't usually go seek like.

No. Oh no, what do I do? It's a hamstring issue. It's like rest it for a couple weeks. You get a great price on a car. You don't go to five other dealerships. No, this is really bad. And so as of this moment, I'm expecting him to miss the beginning of the season. That's not based on like... No, I think for sure he will. But it's not based on absolute knowledge. That's what I'm saying is just my draft strategy. I am approaching it like I'm not going to have him at the beginning of the season if I'm going to make that selection. Do these guys...

ever this is a you know it's kind of funny but it's a genuine question when they have an injury like this and they go to the the first doc and the doc's like oh surgery what no no no no i'm saying like everything you'll be okay this it's a strain you know it's we're just a couple weeks are they is are they still like we need to make sure no no no no never no no if they get good news on the first one they don't go to a follow-up doctor human nature yeah george kittle

Very confident he won't start the season on the pup list. He has a chance to play week one. What he means by that is he knows he's not going to miss the first four games, in which case he will not be starting on the pup. That's kind of how it was laid out. He's hopeful he's there for week one, but he is very confident. They won't place him on the guarantee to miss a month worth of game. So that to me says if you're drafting George Kittle, which I don't blame you. Oh, it's easy. Grab another.

tight end. Are you going to say, Tonjas? Yes, I am. See, we had this question. I 100%. I would draft. If I'm taking Kittle, if I'm accepting the risk, and they talked about, because they're the Australia game, like they'll know he won't make the trip, essentially. So you'll have, can I make a counter argument for that? Sure. The counter argument isn't that Tongis can't perform well, Kittal, like in a very binary kiddle out, Tongis's in. I think that works out.

The problem that I have with that strategy is that there could be a middle period of time where it's limited snaps for kiddle, therefore limited snaps for tangis. And because of the players that I like at the back of the draft and Isaiah likely is an option, right? I'd rather have somebody that I might, I might have two good players. Right. If you get Dalton Kincaid late, Isaiah likely late, Dallas Goddard late, all of a sudden come week four.

Kittles back and rocking, and you still have someone with value. I don't mind that at all. I'm saying, like, you have a... Jawan Johnson? I know I can tempt you with Jawan Johnson. Yeah. You're taking him over Tongis, aren't you? With Jordan Tyson's hamstring? The, yeah, probably, don't you? Yeah, I would. I do love Jewel Johnson. But my point is, like, if you know Kittle is out, like, Tongis is a free square in your draft. Like some other people might take Isaiah likely in round 10.

or something like that. If you want to punt all the way to the end, Tonjus will be waiting for you. And if Kittle is out, this team with... Dot, dot, dot. Exactly. It's like, okay, well, if everything works out, it's great. It's brand new Mike Evans. It's brand new second round rookie stripling. And Tonjus produces when George Kittle is out. And he's already familiar. I think Tongis would be a very strong start. That's fine. And I would say draft strategy-wise, if you have an IR spot.

You don't need to use your draft. Just draft Kittle. No one is going to go and.

draft ton just that didn't grab Kittle. In which case, it would be very vindictive if somebody did it. Yeah, but I would just wait until the draft is over, throw Kittle on your IR when that happens before week one. There you go. There's a tongeist plan I like. Tucker Crafts said the team will probably keep him on a snap count until halfway through the season. He was out there practicing for the first time. Then there was like a quote about the wolves. Yeah, slap him on the butt, send him to the wolves. Yeah, after the snap count. Yeah, I don't like that. It's going to be like the gray.

I've been out with limited snaps. He can. He absolutely can. He was dominant last year. I have personally been out in the sixth round on a player that I think gets off to a slow start. The fact that he is literally saying I'll probably be limited the first half of the year, not that he can't just take one pass. You know, he doesn't have to be out there for every step. But I will counter that by saying, like, look at Dalton Kincaid last year.

The best yards per route run of all tight ends in the league. He just didn't play enough snaps to be very, very valuable. And I don't know if I'm willing to wait half a year for Kraft to, you know, to be that. That's me personally. Kyle Menongai left practice early with an apparent right knee injury, believed to be fine after testing. But it's not been a good offseason for Menongai's health. DJ Moore, it looked like a high ankle sprain was heading his way. But according to Joe Brady, he's good to go.

So that's nice to hear. And then this one, I am the, you saw the DJ Moore play? The, um, wide. Oh, yes. The completely wide. Yes. And people were, oh, man. You're talking about the one where he catches the ball wide open and he calls the defender to him. Yeah. I'm just saying like, he's wide open. So he gets a button. And people are like, yeah, I told you. DJ Moore. It's like, you might be right about DJ Moore, but this is not the play that proves your thesis.

All right, guys, I don't know. You tell me whether you want the button on this one, but Emeka Abuka underwent more testing and a specialist confirmed it was a toe sprain. He's stable. What I don't like is that they asked head coach Todd Bowles about his availability for week one, and he could not confirm right now that Emeka Abuka will be back there for week one, although they are optimistic. Turf toe can linger. Turf toe can really impact players. It's always, it's silly and stupid.

What's the toe sprain, Jason? They're not saying. No, I know. It's not turf toe yet. Right. But if it comes out soon. If it happens on grass, I don't think you can get turf toe. It has to be the big toe, right? Yeah. Yeah. So we don't know which of the little piggies it is. Not yet. Didn't we say we're going to remove the ring toe? We said we could. I don't think we have to. In honor of Jaden Daniels, though. Oh. Nice. Oh, no, that's you got to get the pinky for that one.

Either way, you're going down to four. You've got to get down from five. You've got to respect five. I own the number five. He's getting something. He's got ragrats, I don't remember the timing of this. Was this on the show yet? No, not on the show. This weekend it came out that Jaden Daniels legal team told LSU that they can't. Is that his mom? Sounds like it. It's his biggest fan for sure. They told LSU that they can't use his name and image likeness, that type of stuff because.

They let another quarterback wear number five. How to get everyone to turn on you immediately over stupid bull crap. Yeah, there's got to be. What are you doing? I want to see. I genuinely want to see. What are you doing? With all the bad pub, this would be the silliest thing. Does his ADP move? Does it move down just like a couple spots? I don't think it'll go there. I don't want to draft it. It won't go there, but you definitely have people who don't like that. What are these teams supposed to do? Like this, I blame Shadour.

Yes. You can't. Do you know how numbers work? There's only so many numbers, right? A jersey fits all the double-digit numbers. If you just because you threw a touchdown pass or I know, I know, I know, I know he won a Heisman, I know. But like he wasn't even their best He didn't win a national title. I think Burroughs is. Yes, Burroughs is out, but.

Burrow won a national title. He went undefeated. His numbers were better. This is for LSU. And they had already promised this recruit, which you should want your team to do well. They promised to recruit this number and the recruit didn't want to give it up. I'm not saying that you don't retire anybody's number ever. It's just it's a slippery slope of like how everybody's going to feel like they had a good career. And if you're Jane Daniels, how are you not like calling them up? Be like, dude.

Make the number five proud. This is Michael Irving. Michael Irving was like, yeah. Are you saying Irving? No, Michael Irving. Have you not heard Mike? Irvin. Michael Irvin. Oh, he's got me, Bucky Irving in now. Yeah, you just did it. Irvin. All right. You poison. You're going to get everyone to turn the show off. It was with an I, but it was also with a G. Yeah. It wasn't. It wasn't. It's not Julius. No, I wasn't doing a Magic Johnson thing. This was I with a G. My bat.

It is I. With an in. I know. Okay. Gotcha. I'm just, I wasn't, I wasn't all the way to E and G. Anyways, he comes out and he's like, he was 88. His number should be retired. He's the best. Instead, he creates this. Oh, it's so smart. Incredible legacy for 88 with the Cowboys and then Des Bryant and then C.D. Lamb. This is like, welcome to the club of greats. Well, and he talks about it. He's like, you know what they do? They talk about it. When, when Des Bryant has a great, like, oh.

Shades of the great Michael Irving. Stop it. No. I will walk off of the set. Did you hear his Charlie Colar crap he was doing? It's Collar. Collar and Irving. This is, is this how you felt when we were doing the, what was the stupid nickname? Darnell Anderson? Yeah, now I'm with you. Years later, I'm with you. That's a slippery slope. That was the best nickname ever. My goodness.

There you go. Naji Harris visiting with the Giants. I don't think we need to talk much about it until he signs there. Do you think that's just because Tyrone Tracy whiffed so hard on the block? I would tell Tracy to not come back to work. Right into the blue tent. All right. We'll take a break. We'll get into breakouts. What's up, Foot Clan? You are confident and disciplined and focused on details, just like everyone here at the fancy footballers, right? Those are words you used to describe us. In other words,

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