FAN FREQUENCY / ALWAYS ONZERO AFFILIATION. MAXIMUM OBSESSION.
← Back to the archive
Main show · August 25, 2023

PPR Mock Draft! + Movers & Shakers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/25

RSSAug 25, 2023 · details onlyYOUTUBEAug 25, 2023 · transcript indexed
Original source

PPR Mock Draft! + Movers & Shakers | Fantasy Football 2023 - Ep. 1447

Watch on YouTube ↗

Transcript links use the exact YouTube video’s clock. Machine transcripts can contain errors.

Episode notes & curated moments 4 records
moment

Brooksie welcomes back Al Borland the Rapscallion

The opening names Brooksie and calls Al Borland “the Rapscallion” while the show prepares another mock draft.

moment

Jason wants to shame league mates before winning

Jason says he plans to draft to shame his league mates first and win the championship second, because he cannot win every year but can shame them every year.

moment

Mayhem mock gives Jason three veto powers

The hosts explain that this is a Mayhem mock: Jason sits in the driver’s seat with three mayhems to use on each opponent, including the ability to veto a pick.

summary

Episode notes

This episode is logged for show personality, staff behavior, recurring rituals, league lore, and scene-ready props. The opening names Brooksie and calls Al Borland “the Rapscallion” while the show prepares another mock draft. Jason says he plans to draft to shame his league mates first and win the championship second, because he cannot win every year but can shame them every year. The hosts explain that this is a Mayhem mock: Jason sits in the driver’s seat with three mayhems to use on each opponent, including the ability to veto a pick.

Inside the episode

59 passages
28:58 ↗

Could be consistent with history. We can talk ourselves into some terrible things sometimes. Yeah, we can. So because of that, Ken Walker, Breece Hall went next. And then Debo at 405, he would have been my pick at 407, but he cannot be. However, in a full PPR league, to partner with Tyreek Hill. And I cannot think of two more perfect. Yeah. It's a perfect pairing. It's a perfect pairing. To go along with Josh Jacobs and Jamir Gibbs, I am adding PPR machine. Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen and Tyree Kill together is exactly what I want on fantasy football rosters. Give me extreme volatility or at least explosiveness with Tyree Kill. And then a consistent wide receiver too. It's great. I love it. In fact, if I'm being honest and.

29:57 ↗

I don't like saying this, but I really like both your teams. So I'm, I think this draft is going to be decided over the back half in terms of, uh, who wins the vote. Who wins the day? That's fair. I think you're about, you can ruin it right here. Oh, I think you're willing. I think you're about to not like my team very much. Uh, oh no, I know where you're going. Look ahead. Don't do it. Because I'm looking at. Oh, my gosh. Because I, I feel like. You're taking Brian Robinson light? That's so ridiculous. Looking at the wide receiver, so ADP, we got Amari Cooper, Terry, DJ Moore, Jerry Judy, Drake, London. I do think Amarie Cooper in this spot in the draft is, nobody ever wants to draft him. Yeah. But he could be really, really good in a PPR league. He could. He could be absolutely incredible. Should Deshaun Watson bounce back to just being competent? Because that's like, what did Jacoby percent do last year?

30:54 ↗

It wasn't special, but it was just competent average quarterback play. And Amari Cooper thrived when that was happening. And then Deshaun Watson was awful. And Amari Cooper, you know, plummeted. So if Watson just, like, my projection for Watson is more negative. And you feel like he can bounce back to being good. And it's just like in the range of outcomes, if he just is okay, Amari Cooper should be great. But again, looking at the wide receivers, I don't know that I, like, there's a bunch of upside. Don't love them all. I had fully intended on getting Darren Waller with my next pick. But if I bypass wide receiver here, that might look pretty ugly. Pretty tough in a PPR? Yes, it might look pretty tough in a PPR. But I'm going to do it anyways. Let's mock draft. Let's find out what happens, like Jason said. I'm going to take certainly not a bust.

31:49 ↗

J.K. Dobbins. In a full PPR, it's even more disgusting. I understand that. Amari Cooper goes next. George Kittle, Damien Pierce, Terry McLaren. Thank you so much for fixing that whole I like both your team situation. You're welcome. I mean, that was moments ago. You still like my team though? I do. I do like your team. Yeah, you haven't ruined it. No, Mike, you're back on the clock. And I'm going to follow through with the plan because I want to see. I'm going to see if I like the wide receivers what my team does after this. So I'm going to take Darren Waller, who especially in a PPR, should, like, if in this format, if anyone can really challenge Mark Andrews for number two, it's Darren Waller. Well, I am sitting here at the 506 and I was sniped. Ooh, you wanted the other Justin, huh? It would have been perfect.

32:45 ↗

if I could have taken Justin Herbert at the 506. He went at 505. It would have been a stack with Keenan Allen, the final quarterback in the elite tier that we're looking at in those two rounds. But it was not to be. So at wide receiver, some names I'm going to throw out there for consideration. There's a lot of names I still love. Jerry Judy. We talked about him yesterday. You've got both Tampa Bay wideouts, Christian Watson and Drake London, all available, Tyler Lockett as well. I am more interested, though, in targeting a running back here. I have Jacobs and Gibbs. I like Alvin Camara. I don't know where he's going to go in this draft. The reception totals are going to be good. He's suss. Yeah. I agree. I just don't read what he's marked down is. Oh, Sus, spend it. Okay. Jason would really enjoy that. I really liked that. We're back. Yeah, we're back. That was good.

33:47 ↗

He's sus. I'm going to take the starter and a receiving threat out of Carolina, who's back at practice and healthy, no concerns on the year. I'm going to take Miles Sanders in the fifth round. Drake London, Jerry Judy, Christian Watson, Chris Godwin, Jason back on the clock. He just grunted again. Yeah, I really. Who'd you want? I wanted Chris Godwin. Too bad. I had a plan. From when I took Justin Fields looking at a plan, looking at the ADP, I thought that this turn I could double tap Chris Godwin and Tyler Lockett to fulfill my PPR wide receivers. And unfortunately, one spot early, it did not happen. Join me, Jason. Join me in the high tea territory. Well, there is not. It's dangerous. I mean, I, Mike has.

34:37 ↗

Three of five picks is running backs. I have three of five picks are running back. Oh, Andy's IT as well. And Jason has two picks at running back so far. I could make it three of five. And I won't. I don't think there's a running back here good enough to stop myself for assuring I get Tyler Lockett. I love that you didn't think there was a running back good enough there. I love that because Alexander Madison was there. Yep. And you said it's not good enough. Yeah, I like Alexander Madison, but the fact that I've got Barclay and Ramon dress, and I only had Garrett Wilson, that's the tiebreaker for me. He was bad enough to pass on it. Man, when the boys in purple are good this year, Andy, you're talking about JK and Madison? You're going to be in shambles. Is that it? Is it a jersey thing? I guess. I'm just, I'm attracted to the color purple. I don't like the purple? I guess. Purple rain? It's the royal color. It's the kings. Yeah, yeah, kings have short lives.

35:37 ↗

Yeah, that's fair point. But you took Tyler Lockett at 511. Madison goes next and then Kyle Pitts stolen from you, Jason. I have certainly cooled on Kyle Pitts. Have you? Well, a little bit because I see the targets he's receiving. Yeah. And they remind me a lot of the targets he was receiving last year. So I'm, I'm, you know, I love the talent and I like the. Draft cost usually of Kyle Pitts. I've seen him much later in the sixth round falling to the seventh. I am a little jealous of Mike having Darren Waller, having a solid tight end there. And when I look through all the players, the wide receivers that are on the board right now, I'm not thrilled with Alexander Madison. He probably would have been my pick, but he went off the board. I'm actually going to try taking Dallas Goddard here. Wow. Two onesies through six?

36:33 ↗

Yeah, I mean, taking them in the fourth and the sixth isn't that bad to me. If you were to spend a second and the third. But right now, I've got, in my opinion, two really good running backs, two really good wide receivers. So I don't fear taking that onesie if I've got those positions locked up. All right, Dallas Goddard is the pick. Lawrence Camara, Iuke and Acres go next. And one thing I do not fear is grabbing a second my guy in the sixth round. Mike Evans on the roster, PPR League. Plenty of targets coming his way at the 607. D'Andre Swift and James Connor go next. So through six rounds, Jason S. Saquan and Ramandre at running back, Garrett Wilson and Lockett at wide receiver. Justin Fields and Dallas Goddard. I have Tyreek Keenan and Mike Evans at wide receiver and Mike Evans at wide receiver, and Mike Evans at wide receiver, and Mike Evans at wide receiver, Waller at tight end, and you are on the clock, sir.

37:33 ↗

And having only Crystal Lobby at this point through six, I'm going to be pretty hyper-focused here on wide receiver and try and get some hits. He is certainly, I think he's volatile and he's fragile this year. I'm taking Mike Williams of the Chargers. And what I mean by that is there is a world that exists that what if, what if Quentin Johnson, it just happens to be better? I don't. Think it will be? Obviously, I'm taking Mike Williams in the sixth, but just saying like there are outcomes where the season goes into a meteor crater for Mike Williams, but I'm going to take him there because I knew that on the way back, I would get a PPR stabilizer in Deontay Johnson to be my wide receiver three. Which is a great pick in the seventh round. Yeah, I love what you just did there. That is...

38:26 ↗

reminiscent of what I was trying to do last at my turn. And honestly, when I was taking Dallas Goddard, I was between Dallas Goddard and Mike Williams. All right. I am back on the clock just taking Mr. Mike Evans in the last round. I have three wide outs and three running backs. And I am staring down two players, one wide receiver one running back here in the draft. I am looking at I could be the guy in this draft that takes a chance on Giovante Williams. in the seventh round. Got three running backs already. I could let him develop. He's got the highest upside of anybody left on the board, most likely. The wide receiver, look, I'd love to take my guy in Jehan Dodson, but I don't have him ranked ahead of Hollywood Brown. And Hollywood Brown is sitting there because his team just traded Isaiah Simmons for a seventh and is a just a...

39:17 ↗

swirling toilet bowl. What year are we with Isaiah Simmons? They didn't pick up his fifth year option, so this has got to be his fourth season. So year four, at first, a top ten pick into a seventh rounder. Excellent work. We hadn't had a chance to discuss this. What a joke. I mean, what a joke. Also, congratulations, giants. Yeah. Because. A player that can have meaningful snaps for you. And it was, I'm surprised the Cardinals didn't hold out for an eighth. Right. Yeah. The non-existent. I mean, he's going to be good. He don't hear what I'm not saying. He's been terrible. But he's been a Cardinal. Yeah. So he's going to go. Reddick says what? Exactly. All right. Sorry. Brief detour to trash our hometown team. Also, since we're already detoured, Giants fans, you'll be happy to know.

40:11 ↗

I'm really coming around on your team because I trashed you guys earlier this office. You did. I thought that, you know, it was all a sham and window dressing and things were going to fall apart. But I'm believing in what I see from this offense with Darren Waller and buying back into table. And who's thrown him the ball day? I'm rising a little bit on Danny Dimes. Yeah, there we go. I couldn't open my mouth all the way when I said that. He said, I'm going to do the dumb thing here on the Sleeper Mock draft, and I'm going to try to gamble and draft Tua in the eighth round, not here to stack with Tyreek. So I will go Hollywood Brown. I think the value in the seventh round is ridiculous. And Dak, Ingram, and Joku, and Javante off the board before Jason's pick. I mean, this is like...

40:59 ↗

I feel like we did a mock draft earlier in the offseason. I was at 10, and it kept happening over and over. This is literally three rounds in a row. I wanted Mark Andrews. He went the pick before me in the third round. I wanted Chris Godwin. He went the pick before me in the fifth round. I wanted Javante Williams. He went the pick before me. I don't like the 11 spot. Yeah, you should have picked a 10. That's on you. Stupid team 10. I don't like you. All right. You do have to make a pick now. Javante is not going to be it. Yeah, Javante will not be the pick. I was really hoping it would be. I'm looking at my roster, and I like Jahan Dotson. I like Jordan Addison a lot. And I like James Cook. So I'm going to play the ADP game here and try to get two of those three players. Given the fact that I like both Addison and Dotson, I'm going to take James Cook first.

41:57 ↗

So that will add him to Sequin and Ramandre Stevens. Are you for me? John Dotson goes next. So you got sandwiched. Cook and then Dotson and Addison. So you're my guy. Are you kidding? I wanted Dotson or Addison. This is amazing. That's all I wanted. I'm like, oh, there's two of them. And, and Dotson was really low in ADP. So I took Cook to make sure I was safe. And then boom, not one. Both. This is ridiculous. This is beautiful. It's very entertaining. I like what's happening. You have the 802 to select here. I take Jackson Smith and Jake Booth. Oh, man. That's a good consolation. Yeah, someone to throw an IR. Montgomery goes next. Tony, Dylan, Brandon Cooks. It's back to me. Now, last time I did this, I messed around a quarterback and it cost me. I would, if I didn't have Tyreek Hill on this team.

42:57 ↗

I would actually select DeShawn Watson over Tua. But I don't see them that far apart. And the value of a stack, the entertainment, the fun of a stack, I'm going to take Tua here and solidify that position. I didn't want to hand a quarterback power pick off to Mike where he has two selections before I pick again. You know, we haven't talked about that enough. We've talked about the value of a stack, the fact that it actually is injecting volatility that helps. actually provide Ws. It's a smart strategy, not just in bestball, but in redraft leagues. But we haven't talked about the fun of a stack, the enjoyment and the entertainment, and how long you get to stay in a game. Because you're down by a ton in your weekly matchup, and it's Sunday. Tyreek? Until that game is over, you still have the hope. Because one deep pass, when you've got the quarterback and the wide receiver, you get a 60-yard touchdown, and you score 20 points.

43:53 ↗

glorious. Exactly. I love it. So I am on the clock. I do, I still want to keep loading some wide receivers onto the team. But now I'm doing the grid watching of the draft. So team two, which they'll have two selections before me, they are pretty wide receiver heavy. Team one there is balanced. So I'm trying to make my calculator decisions of, I, I love Antonio Gibson, especially in this PPR situation. Brian Robinson is the starter, but at least through preseason what it looks like, it looks like they're alternating. Like not just a Antonio Gibson is playing only the McKissick role, only passing situations, but they're just, they're spelling each other. And that could turn in if Gibson is the one who is a better pass catcher, that could turn into some real PPR value. And then of course, Zay Flowers.

44:50 ↗

uh my darling yeah my my my my rookie love for this year he is there i don't know if he will make it back let's let's find out i'm going to take gibson here and we'll find out if if i stopped in if i stop and smell the flowers here and you do erran rogers you're done right i do baby pinny robinson that's how you do it jay quentin john oh there it is See, your strategy sucked. Mine was, you hear me break down the corner? It was so good. Yeah. You didn't look at you the other teams enough. I guess not. The nice thing is, I can't be sniped this round because my heart has stopped caring. And I don't stop beating. I target no one. You don't want to know who I want this next pick? I don't care. You got Grinchheart. Yeah, exactly. Nobody's drafted Jackson Smith and Jigba with such sadness before. Seriously, that's a great pick.

45:44 ↗

Friamuth and Beckham go next. I am going to take Khalil Herbert in the ninth round because that's great value starting running back. My plan was if I went Zay Flowers there and Gibson had not made it back, I probably would have taken Herbert. All right. Juju, Jamal, Anthony Richardson, Gabe Davis. Jason, you're on the clock. I don't know if you want to Gabe Davis. He would have been my selection, but I wanted nobody. Right, right. But had he been on the board right now, he certainly would have been my pick. I think he has a great season, a bounceback player, and in the ninth round, you know, you're just taking shots. In a PPR, I am going to grab Elijah Moore here. I think he will be.

46:35 ↗

a heavily involved asset for the Browns. I talked him up the other day. And then it looks like Deshaun Watson and Zach Charbonnet went. This is a full PPR. This is where the flex position, I want more shots at wide receiver than running back because they will score more in that flex. So I'm going to take Cortland Sutton as well. So three wide receivers in a row here, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Elijah Moore, and Cortland Sutton added to the roster. And I'm going to take my traditional final round or two tight end here. It's a PPR league. I'm going to take a guy that has surprise upside. And if it doesn't work, I've got a bunch of free agent tight ends I can use. Dalton Kincaid added to the roster in the 10th round. Mike, you are back on the clock. Zay Flowers last round. What a pick. Yeah, I was really happy with that quick turn I had. I'm looking at quarterback now.

47:32 ↗

Again, this is know your league. So for us, this is know the mock draft. And people, aka computers and bots, they're not afraid to draft two quarterbacks. Occasionally, as Andy found out, the last mock draft. And there's two. I'm down to two quarterbacks that I am comfortable entering the season with. Gino Smith, who the Jackson Smith and Jigbut injury, honestly, that hurts the. the next step that Gino Smith could possibly take if you're missing him for, you know, the first quarter of the season. That would really be a bummer. And then, of course, I do have Darren Waller and Daniel Jones has ranked just a couple spots ahead of Gino for me. So I'm going to take the stack, the giant stack that Jason is a huge fan of. Comet, Gino, Jameson Williams, and Chigua, Mike, your final pick.

48:31 ↗

It's wide open because you've got everything you need. Right. So this is kind of a flyer opportunity here with your final selection. Yeah, so I want to, I feel pretty comfortable with those four running backs. Let me just look through here, the ADP. Tyler Algier, I mentioned him as a sleeper. I think that he's a strong option here. Tank Bigsby is a very strong option if you want to fly with a running back at the end of the draft. At the wide receiver position, I. Look, I'm in on, I'm Teams A Flowers, but Rashad Bateman was the de facto number one wide receiver. Last year for the, for the Baltimore Ravens, he just happened to get hurt. There is a world where Rashad Bateman is clearly and easily the number one wide receiver for the team. But I don't want to double up on the Ravens. Sky Moore has been one of my favorite late round targets just in case he happens to take the next step. And, you know what, that's the direction I'm going to go. I'm going to take Sky Moore.

49:29 ↗

He's been getting the, what we know so far about the Kansas City Chiefs, wide receivers are the starters, the true starters are Valdez Scantling and Sky Moore. So we can be excited about Rishie Rice, second round rookie, who would, Justin Watson is there, Justin Ross. Like, there's some exciting other guys to fly on it in a deeper league, but Skymore is the starter. All right, my final pick is between two players. I want to mention. Jonathan Mingo's name here because the injury to DJ Chark, who was just my sleeper pick, it could shelve them for a while. They won't talk about the severity, but it don't look good. They were very dodgy when talking about it. Yeah, like he could be, he could be toast for a long time, which means Mingo is going to have a chance from day one. And I love taking late round rookie lightouts with opportunities. I would, I like it. It's a PPR pick. The problem I'm having is I have two running backs to consider here.

50:26 ↗

Rahim Moster is there. Yeah. The starter. Who will catch passes in Miami? And then this is not one I'll do because of what else is on the board. But there is some thought of drafting Zemir White with Josh Jacobs being on the shelf right now, not knowing for sure. It just feels bad if Jacobs did miss some time and somebody else picks up Zemir White with relevance. If this was your team in real life, you're drafting, it's not a mock draft. I think you would take Rahim Moster. Over Zemir? Yes. I would because I'd rather if the, if push came to shove on that week where Josh Jacobs missed, I would play Rih Mosterd. So that'll be the pick. Do you guys think? You thought I would take Zemir? Yeah. I mean, it does cover your basis, but again, your upside is you have faith that Jacobs is going to play and then Moster is there and you can play both of those guys. I also.

51:25 ↗

I also have Gibbs and Sanders and Herbert. So it wasn't going to be a situation where Zemir would see time. Do you think, this is just, I'm throwing out an outside the box question because not knowing how Josh McDaniels will handle it. Do you think go, like, will he go right to Josh Jacob? Like if Josh Jacobs walks in right before the game and says, here's my contract, I signed it, franchise tag. I'm your guy. Does he go right back into 70% of the snaps? Or does week one he get 50% of the snaps? I think week one, 80% of this. I think it just goes fully. He's just like, okay, you're in. All right. Go get him a Gatorade. It's an important question. Because there's a human factor to it. There is, but this is the kind of human factor where I feel like the exact same about it was Derek Henry that had been waiting. And Tajay Spears was playing well. It's like, okay, Derek Henry's back in camp. Here you go.

52:22 ↗

I think that's how they'd treat it. He's the rushing champ. Sure. He's literally holding out because of his value on the roster. And he's by far the best running back. Maybe one week you could see slightly less than you'd expect. If it goes long enough. Of like these, these like Zemir White has been in training camp this whole time, busting his butt for this team, doing everything they've asked him to do. Josh Jacobs has been training outside of camp. Just. Not happy to deal with them. And you, and football guys reward their players who are showing up and putting in the work. Just saying, I'm more on your side of, I think Jacobs walks right into it, but it wouldn't shock me if Sunday morning we get, we get Jay Glazers. Like, I'm hearing that Josh Jacobs is only going to get 40 or 50% of the snaps. That's even more reason to play him.

53:15 ↗

Isn't Jacob, isn't Jacobs the worst Saturday news ever? Yes. It's always like, oh, I'm hurting. What team did he? He destroyed Seattle. Yeah, it was Seattle. With a bad calf, 200 plus yards. Like not practicing that whole week. You thought, can you even start them this week? And that was one of the most prolific performances of the season. Final pick, Jay. I'm on the clock here. There's two running backs. I hope got back to me. They both did. Tank Biggs me and Jalen Warren. Love both of these guys. worthy of the pick, but I'm going to take the upside of Tank Biggsby, who I think can do something special without an injury in front of him. Jalen Warren can be a flex option on certain weeks without an injury ahead of him, but I do think that his real upside will come if Naji were to go down. So Tank Biggsby added to the roster. Final thoughts on drafting at the 106. I was really happy with the roster. Tyree Kill, Keenan, Mike Evans, and Hollywood at wide receiver.

54:14 ↗

Josh Jacobs, Jamir Gibbs, Miles Sanders, Khalil Herbert, and Rahim Mostert at Running Back with Tua and Dalton Kincaid in the onesie spots. My team's at running back. I have Christian McCaffrey, Joe Mix and J.K. Dobbins, Antonio Gibson. At wide receiver, Chris Olave is going to have to do some heavy lifting and truly be the player. I think he's going to be. But I got Olave, Mike Williams, Deontay Johnson, Zay Flowers, Sky Moore, Darren Waller. The Walleris is my tight end, and his quarterback, Daniel Jones, is my quarterback. From the 11th spot, I was sniped a bunch. You're on the ground just, you're bleeding out. My team is fine. I just wish it could have been a couple of different players. Three darts. I've got Justin Fields at quarterback and Dallas Goddard at tight end. At running back, I've got Sequin, Barclay, Remandre, Stevenson, James Cook, and Tank Bigsby. And then at wide receiver, Garrett Wilson.

55:12 ↗

Tyler Lockett, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, Elijah Moore, and Cortland Sutton. All right, hope you enjoyed that PPR mock draft. Hey. Dominate your kid. I want to dominate my draft. This is my way of reminding you to head over to Ultimate draft kit.com as we close this out. And for those of you that aren't able to attend in Los Angeles on Saturday for the Megalus show, don't worry. You will get to enjoy that episode as it will be aired Monday on our YouTube channel. So you can watch it all. Thank you for joining us. Fantasy MVP's next week, Fantasy Time Machine next week, and a whole lot more. Join us at Jointhefoot.com. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on Jointhefoot.com. And follow us on Twitter at theFF ballers.