Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Le'Veon Bell News, Zeke, Fantasy Answers

You know, he caught 22% of his red zone targets. That's not a high number. When you look at a guy like, what, Tyler Ifer last year? I don't remember what Tyler Eifert's red zone target number was. Tyler Eifert makes everyone look like just an imbecile. That should not be playing in the NFL with his red zone conversions last year. But I mean, Calvin Benjamin's the same size pretty much. That's true. He is almost the same. Well, he's 6.5, I think. So Benjamin 6.25, 240, Tyler Eifert is 6. 6.250?

Okay. It's not too different, but you look at like, you know, the red zone catch rate of a guy like Eifert was 75%, 22% for Kelvin. I would rather have that. Well, yeah. Or his general catch rate is 20% higher. I'm just saying, you know, if you ask why we doubt that it's because some of the numbers behind the numbers, to us didn't seem like they were elite. And I don't think any of us would believe, let's say you buy into Kelvin being a number one. Do you really think he can finish top five in the league, top 10 as a wide receiver? No. No. Okay.

Let's talk about Kelvin the entire show. Well, to speak a little bit more to that point, you know, he brings up guys like T.Y. Hilton. Oh, Jimmy Hilton. T.Y. Hilton is so undervalued this year and is fantastic. Also, Kelvin is going ahead of guys like Demarius Thomas and Sammy Watkins, both guys that I would much rather have than Kelvin Benjamin. Yeah. What? True story. Wait, who did he say?

Demarius Thomas and Sammy Watkins. I mean, he would take T.W. Hilton over him, he said? No, no. Calvin Benjamin is going ahead of Demerius Thomas and Sammy Watkins in average drafts. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. What? But my. No. No. All right. All right. Let's move on. Keeper question from Mike in New York. I'm in a keeper league and need your opinions on who to keep. Well, that makes sense with the keeper league. I'm between Lamar Miller in round three, Alan Robinson, and round six.

Or Jeremy Langford in round 16? 16. And I assume he's just keeping one of these guys. Half point per reception. Yeah, let's order him for him. One of these guys, I'm taking Alan Robinson in the sixth. Me too. Because if it's only a one keeper league, that means only 12 guys are gone. You've got a lot of talent in the draft. That third round pick that you're giving up to get Lamar Miller would be really valuable. So I'm going to pair that with Alan Robinson. Okay.

I would go Alan Robinson, then Miller, then Langford, believe it. That is exactly how I would do it. Potential bust question from Josh in Knoxville, Tennessee. Just started listening to the show. Welcome aboard. Hey, thanks, Josh. Says he enjoys it. That's good. Sorry if you guys have talked about this in the past, but who are some wide receiver running backs being taken in the first two rounds that you feel could end up having a C.J. Anderson or Eddie Lacey-like season.

We're looking at last year. Yeah, I assume the 2015. Who didn't get hurt, but just simply didn't live up to expectations. So who are some of those guys that are being taken in the first couple of rounds that are in that? I'll throw a couple names out in the first round. First round, two guys that I think could end up doing that. And you guys won't like hearing me say it. But I'm going to throw out David Johnson. And I'm also going to throw out Ezekiel Elliott. Both guys are guys I like.

Both guys I expect to do well. So don't hear me saying that they're going to be bust. But if you look at their situations, you can say, well, you know, Chris Johnson was a starter last year. Maybe this year it's just going to be like a 50-50 split. And if it's a 50-50 split, then, you know, he might not get injured and he might not produce to the level. You have to keep in mind, Eddie Lacey last year had a pretty decent year at the end of it. He wasn't like running back 45. He just wasn't what you drafted. And so I've got a name. And then with Ezekiel Elliott.

I realize, you know, high ceiling and a high floor. But there's just the question, Mark, if you have no idea what percent of the carries and targets he's going to get. You have no idea. So it is a gamble. The two names that I would say, one is Eddie Lacey. He's going in the sixth pick of the second round right now. I think there's a lot of hype, a lot of assurance that he's going to be back to old form. But you had a year like last year. That could be one guy that disappoints you. The name I want to bring up is Lamar Miller.

That was one of my names. Lamar Miller is a late first round pick right now. He's going to a new home. He's never had a giant workload. And he's always kind of disappointed, even if it seems like it's not his fault. So to me, that's a name that at least has the potential. You know, a guy like AJ Green, you know what you're getting. Yeah, and I'm going to throw this out on Lamar Miller.

Because you guys know that I've been a big Lamar Miller fan for the last several years. You guys are very close. And he is my keeper on my team. And so a lot of times the keepers on my team are guys I worry about. Well, for the Foot Clan, Jason handpicked Lamar Miller over Mark Ingram. I did. This year. I did. This year. That was my choice. And as I've thought about this recently, like this week, I've been really thinking more about Lamar Miller. Dude's going to be awesome. He's going to be so good.

Oh, my goodness. I loved it. I got Lamar Miller. He's going to be the number one running back. Yeah. Well, that went a different direction than I thought. I will say Lamar Miller and first two rounds. Say it. Oh, DeVantz. You know I want to say it. But I don't want to just be so hot takey. Go. Todd Gurley. Oh, okay. Todd Gurley. Well, I think this is what this says is that.

The running back position in the NFL is very volatile. Yeah. All right, voicemail question, draft order question. Here we go. Hi, guys. This is Tom from Jersey Shore. I love the show, by the way. I got a quick question. About our fourth year in the league, it's a 12-team redraft league, but we'll usually do it online, where the order is randomized about a half hour beforehand, and we've about two minutes per round. This is the first year that we're going live. Nice. Live draft. So, one, how much time ahead of time should we give to randomize the picks?

And two, how much time should we allocate per round? If any time. Thanks, guys. Bye. I'm doing it live. I like what he added at the end there, if any time. I can tell you in our league of record, especially if you've been around for four years, right? You know these...

owners you guys know each other if you're able to do a live draft and you're probably at least pockets of you are close friends um i would i would recommend you have the uh the the the the no timer but shame rule yes we kind of have the uh in the first few rounds you just kind of let people make their picks let them take their time if they got to work a trade or something in person you give them a little bit more time but then once it's just like all right you got to make your pick you as a group

As the other 11 or 10, if there's one person we're going to trade, start to shame them. And what we did in our most recent draft is we, in the later rounds, put on a timer because it was a dynasty startup. So a lot of picks. And we put on like a two-minute timer and then a one-minute timer. And as soon as that bill went off, everyone in the room had to yell at the other person, pick. Make your pick. Jeremy, who are you picking? Pick it. Pick it, pick, pick. And it's hard to make a pick in that situation. You don't want that clock to run out on you.

And it was very fun. It sure was. Ridiculous. All right. But question, were you trying to goat me into saying Doug Martin? I was trying to goate you into saying Eddie Lacey. Oh, no. Eddie Money. Me and Eddie Money are great friends. Yeah. Great friends this year. He left you broke last year. He had a second part to that question, though, right? It wasn't just the draft timer. No, you answered. No, no. And then when should you randomize the order? Do it right now. Yeah, I would. Yeah. Do it know where you're going to pick. What the gronk!

That's the question coming in from Desmond in Steinbeck, Manitoba, Canada. Bonjour. Bonjour? Yeah, that's a non-French speaking. You're good there, Mike. Bonjour! Deciding... Actually, I don't know if it's non-French speaking. I don't know anything about Canada. I know that... The questions in French. Quebec is over on the...

The eastern part, and Vancouver's up on the western part. We are... Toronto. I know everything about Canada. We are very uncultured swine as talking about Canada. Yeah, Pat Mayo would be proud. Deciding between Jamal Charles, D'Andre Hopkins, and Gronk for two keepers with Brady out four games. Does that take Gronk out of the equation? Yep.

Between those guys, yeah. Yeah, if you've got Jamal and Dawkins. Yeah, you're right. If Brady was there for all 16, I would still take Jamal and DeAndre. You are, yeah. Now that I've thought it through, I completely agree. Brandon 411 in Ohio, standard scoring, would you rather have David Johnson, Des Bryant? Oh, this is two different choices. Okay. Would you rather have David Johnson and Des Bryant or Julio Jones and Lamar Miller?

Ooh, that's good. My pick is... Give me Julio and Lamar Miller. Yeah, that's an easy pick for me. I think Julio is of these four guys. He's the best. He's the real difference maker out of all four. And I usually want the trade that includes that. Add in the fact that I'm in love with Lamar Miller and it's a home run. Wait, you like Lamar Miller? Yeah, he's a big fan. That's the combo. I'm going to go Julio Lamar. LaShawn McCoy question from Jeremy and Arkansas. Hey, ballers.

I have LaShaul McCoy rising in my rankings, and I really expect him to have a huge year. It's going to be huge. It's going to be huge. Can you talk me out of taking him in the first round ahead of a guy like Lamar Miller, Ezekiel Elliott, or Mark Ingram? I cannot talk you out of that. I am totally fine with it. I got no problem. The only reason I would talk you out of it is simply because if you are late in the first round, I think that Shady is going to come back to you.

in the top of the second. So if you don't want to go RBRB, that's what you're saying? Then grab one of the elite receivers, grab Dez, grab A.J. Green. That's the only reason I would talk you out of it. Very fair. Yeah, that'd be smarter. Is if you want to throw the dice. But if you're saying, I'm going safe, I'm taking my guy here, I'm not going to complain with you taking Shady right there. Kyle in Oklahoma, yeah, getting back on Shady real quick, he has the upside to be a top three back. Yes. You know, there's decisions to be made there.

And like Mike said, if you think you can get him in the next round, don't take him too early. Get both those guys. All right. Kyle and Oklahoma, drafting fifth this year, and he has a tough decision. He assumes that Brown, Bell, and OBJ will be gone. Bell will not be gone anymore. No. And the fourth pick is a wild card in front of me. In order, who should I take from the following guys? So put these in order. Okay. Julio Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, Todd Gurley, Adrian Peterson. This is a 10-man.

PPR league. It's a standard PPR league. Kyle, which one is it? Yeah. I think like a standard point per reception league is what he means. It's like not an abnormal point per reception league. So 10 man PPR, this is this is Julio Jones for me, followed by I'm going to take Todd Gurley, then DeAndre Hopkins, then AP. I'm going to say the way he listed him is the way I like him. In a full PPR, I'm going to put DeAndre Hopkins ahead of Todd Gurley. So I go Julio.

Hopkins, Gurley, and Peterson. I can agree with that. You guys want to make a prediction here? I don't know if it's going to venture into a bet. What do you guys think about an over under on Todd Gurley's receptions? Real quick. I'm going to interrupt that because I just want to say, given this list and he's saying he's picking at the fourth spot, I'm... Julio's probably not going to be there. Yeah, Julio's not going to be there, but between Julio...

And D'Andre Hopkins is going to be A.J. Green for sure. Yes. Thank you, Jason. I would take A.J. Green ahead of, it would go, Julio, AJ. I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you an interesting number. Okay. Let me look at my numbers here. Well, Todd Gurley had 21 receptions last year. Okay. Over under 35? Under. Okay. Then I will, you want a water bet it? Yes. Ooh, two and one. Oh.

Waterbet. What's great about that is the number I was going to give you is 40, and I just decided to try to get away with 35. I will take 35. I did. I did. I will take the 35. What number would I have had to say for you not to agree? 30. So if I had said 30, you would have been like, no? Yeah, don't make. Because I have him down for 30. All right. But you have him down for 30, which is, mind you, five receptions different from our bet point, but you are very confident with your 30. I will take it. He loves his projections. Put that on the board, Mike. These are so.

My projections are the best. Yeah, well, that's exactly what. If you go to our ultimate draft kit.com, it's like, that's what Mike's endorsement of it is. They're the best. My rankings are the best. Yeah. Look, when you just say something is the best, I hear that works. You know where you would do good? I hear that gets you good places. You'd be real good at the Republican convention. I say they get you good places. Yeah, you can actually, in the ultimate draft kit, you can see Mike and my and Andy's completely different individual scoring for every player. Yeah.

So you can see Mike's 30 reception miscalculation. Seventh round value question from Tyler and Kenya. What? That's the first one we've ever had from Kenya. Spectacular. Bonjour. Yes. Bonsure indeed. I love that every show, everyone, you know, some new listeners like, these guys are idiots. They don't understand the language of the Kenyans. It's French, obviously. Oh, how funny. I just wanted to see what I had, Todd Gurley.