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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - Wk 13 Studs, Duds, Rising Stars, News

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You could just see him. Okay, he goes in. He's the starter. Struggles for a half and he gets pulled again. He doesn't get the chance to be fantasy relevant. If he had played the whole game, we could have all been like, well, you know, seven straight good weeks plus the snow and the game script. And okay, he's going to start next week. But now you don't even know. We don't know who's starting. So stay away from him if you want.

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you know, print a picture out, throw some darts at it, do whatever you need to do to get over this. Hopefully you could survive. He could still have big fantasy games, but his risk factor is now through the charts. Well, and you had some other poopers this week. We don't want to forget about him. Dak Prescott had probably his worst fantasy game in a while. He lost a fumble. He only had one touchdown. Cam Newton stunk. Alex Smith, I don't know if he, he didn't completely poop his pants, but his pants aren't that big. So, Tyrod Taylor, Cam Newton.

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Yeah, Cam Newton certainly did. Every week we take a look. Is Cam Newton better than streaming? No. No. He's not. All right. Running backs, guys. We need the narratives here. James Starks. I think he played something like 12% of snaps. Well, he got pulled really early. I don't know what happened, but he only had. He looked terrible. There was a particular play where it was third and short. And if he had just gone north, south.

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It was an easy first down. Instead, James Starks decides he's going to run laterally towards the end, the side of the field and then get stopped. Sometimes those eye roll moments, you know, for a coach, that's it for that game. So does that mean you buy into? He did come in and he had a decent spark moving forward, but we could be back on Ty Montgomery Watch. I agree. Everyone's favorite backup.

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Everybody's favorite running back wide receiver. This is a week to watch. I mean, moving forward, you're not going to, since there's no clarity between James Starks, Time Montgomery, Chris and Michael, and they play Seattle? No, thank you. So let's just go ahead and avoid Green Bay for this week. I'm going to give you some more pooper running backs. You tell me whether you're worried about them long term or not. Jonathan Stewart. No.

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Uh, got San Diego, Washington, Atlanta. The schedule is much more favorable. All right. What about Lamar Miller and the injury? He has a nice schedule with Indy Jacksonville, Cincinnati, but, uh, you just got to monitor. I'm, I'm not extremely worried here unless he is missing entirely Thursday's practice. I expect he'll miss Wednesday. He'll be limited Thursday and then I'm fine with him. Another stinker for the stinker. Todd Gurley, 11 for 38. Does he bounce back next week against Atlanta?

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Can the Rams keep the other offense under control so that you can use Todd Gurley? I think they'll have an easier time with Atlanta than they will with Bill Belichick. Even though Atlanta's been a great offense, I still think Atlanta and then two weeks after that, San Francisco, Todd Gurley, you're probably going to play him, even in the playoffs. Rob Kelly against Arizona was only 14 for 63, but I actually thought he played well. I thought that was, that's fine. So I think he's, I'm confident in him against Philly, Carolina coming up.

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Poor. He did miss. Oh, my goodness. He can't catch. The dude can't catch. He can barely take a pitch out of the backfield. He had one of those. He has the new Alford Morris. Yeah, they were down on the one yard line. It was like first and two at the goal. And they run a boot to the right. And Rob Kelly just leaks out into the end zone and is wide open. It was just pitch and catch. He looked inept. And he threw the ball and it's just like, boink. Lucky for him.

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that drop is removed from the statute because I believe there was a penalty on the play. And do you think Washington just looks for these guys that are like, we don't want them to be able to catch. We want them to really focus between the tackles. Maybe. But they were, there was a situation where Washington was on the half yard line. Cousins snuck one in with the QB sneaker. If, if Rob Kelly had run that in, it would have been a great fantasy day. No, I thought he looked good against a very tough Arizona front. I agree. Ingram and High Tower combo. Ingram was the toe injury.

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He came back in. But he looked fantastic to start the game, then hobbled off. He missed some time. It's a toll problem. So it's more not a Mark Ingram problem. He also had a bad game script there with New Orleans down and not able to do anything with Breeze. And Cadet led the team in snaps. Yeah. Because of the, I think it was game script. So Tampa next week, who do you start, Ingram? It's still Ingram for me. Another combo that lets you down, James White and Dionne Lewis doing nothing for fantasy owners. Is this what we're going to see the rest of the season?

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This was the worry. This was the worry when Lewis came back is that he would take away any value from white, but not do enough on his own to make you start him. And that's what you're seeing. And then, of course, you cannot forget the featured running back for the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah. You mean the report that Wendell Smallwood would be featured? Yep. Yeah, you stay away from that. Stay away from that. You know, it's funny because we joke. We joke all the time about whatever Doug Peterson says, you do the opposite.

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It's not a joke anymore. We joke. And every time we say it, it's still a joke. But not all jokes are lies. It's actually the truth. Every single thing he has said for the last like eight weeks, he has done the opposite. And I think at this point, I mean, you know, we were on our Slack channel and you pointed that out. And I'm like, whoa, I got to move spools up. And it wasn't a joke. If you're featuring a guy, do you give him the ball in the goal line? Yeah. Yeah. So that didn't happen.

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All right, wide receiver stinkers. The great Devante Adams payback after he destroyed Jason's dreams last week. Hey, I pumped. I pumped the brakes on Devon to Adams. You had a full on a voodoo. That was part of why you pumped him too. You pumped him because he has Seattle coming up. The schedule and the lack of targets. And the voodoo doll. All right. Who are you worried about? Devante Adams. These are stinkers. These are poopers. Benjamin Evans.

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Robinson, Sanders, and Beasley. I'm worried about basically four-fifths of those. I'm not worried about Mike Evans at all. Zero concerns for me. He's been great. He's got the targets. He's got... Double New Orleans. Two out of the next three weeks. But when it comes to Devante Adams, Calvin Benjamin, Alan Robinson, and Emmanuel Sanders, I'm worried a little bit about all of those guys because, look, Cam isn't getting it done for Kelvin.

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The quarterback situation for the Broncos is terrible. Bortals. Bortals is the worst. So I guess the guy I would trust the most out of those four would be Devante Adams because he can be efficient, still get it done. But I pumped the brakes for a reason, not the best schedule coming up. So I don't really love any of those guys. As long as Simeon is the quarterback and it's not the Tampa Bay Buccaneers mascot, throwing the ball to Emmanuel Sanders, then I'm still okay playing him. Now, I got my blood test this week when I was out and I did not have the Beasles.

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And neither did he. Nope. Only two for 23. But I mean, this isn't, I'm not concerned about Beasley, but it was Dax's worst game of the year. He is who he is. He's a five for 50 guy with upside every week. All right. Before we get into the Monday night game, and we're going to talk about some of these guys tomorrow. So I know we might not be focusing. You know, Willie Sneed had a bad game. We'll talk about some of these guys. Tight ends though. Greg Olson. I mean, what do you do at this point? What are we seeing happen there? Is this all cam related? Because it seems like it is.

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But Olson, three for 30, you're locking him into your lineup every week and he's letting you down. He is. I mean, would you start with Darius Green now? Yes, I think I would. He is truly destroying fantasy teams. I mean, he has, he's a guy that is an automatic start at the position and has been for the last seven weeks. You've had a hard time. Last couple of years. You've had a hard, no, I'm saying for the last seven weeks, you've had a hard time winning.

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your matchups because you have a deficit coming at your tight-in position. And I think the time has come now where if you have a good option, which I think Laderius Green is a good option, then you look at the matchup and you stream. You make the best choice can't. San Diego, Washington, Atlanta, don't worry me, but Cam Newton worries me. So that's the tough thing about Olson. Like, I don't want to chase points at tight-in, but Olson hasn't done it in so long.

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that maybe it's not chasing you anymore. This reminds me of, there was a few years back during the Peyton Manning era where Peyton Manning had a bad game and he was in this section. He thought, oh, well, ha, ha, it's Peyton Manning. He was in the section the next week. Like, oh, ha ha, it's Peyton Manning. He just kept ending up in that section. You say last year? It might, I feel like it was a couple years ago. There was the knee injury at the end of the year. There was this stretch where it was.

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But it's Peyton Manning, so you've got to keep playing him. But it's just that you're in an impossible situation where as a fantasy player, if you move away from your superstar and that superstar returns to what they normally are on your bench, how do you live with yourself in that situation? The way that you live with yourself is that you make a good other decision.

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You start someone that's competent. Because if Greg Olson goes off for 25 on my bench, but I got 12 out of my tight end, I'm not going to be that upset. I'm going to be upset if I started a guy that got me two points while Greg Olson went off on my bench. So look for those guys. We'll talk about it on tomorrow's waiver show, the Lederius Greens and guys like that that can get it done. All right, Monday night game Colts take on the Jets. The Jets are two-point dogs at home, 49 point over under. Lots of fantasy implications, including Mug grief.

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Dante Moncrief. You counting on him tonight with the Hilton. Hilton coming off his injury, but, you know, Moncrief should be good against New York, shouldn't he? Moncrief should be locked in for 50 in a touchdown. That seems to be his line. 50 catches? Yes. 50 yards is touchdown. That that's Moncrief. And I got to jump in here because we have this platform. Mr. T. Yilton. I need. Because we have this platform. I feel like you get special rights to his fantasy production. Hilton.

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buddy i paid i paid a lot for you call him tie he likes tie i i paid a lot for my future for this season because i i looked at you and i said this this guy is something special there's some magic happening here with t y hill i need 20 points tonight you need a monday miracle so now the foot clang can root for you yes so this gets you a bye week if you went if he gets yes yeah the good news is i'm still in the playoffs but

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That by week is so delightful. Oh, well, yeah, it saves you a week of mental struggles. Of torments. Yeah, of torment. Why do we do this? This is ridiculous. This game is ridiculous. Like the fantasy playoffs, you get in. You don't know why? I'm consumed all week. Yeah. By thinking of Sunday. Here's why we do this. We have, tonight's Monday night game has implications across the board from playoff implications too. In our league, we have some of the last place teams, like the last place team in our league, they spin the wheel of water.

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12 times, they get soaked in water, and then they draft wet. And that's going to come down to Matt Forte tonight. It's going to come down to Matt Forte and Andrew Luck and three different owners might end up getting watered. It's going to be hilarious. Brandon Marshall, what does he offer you tonight? I think Brandon Marshall has a good game. Fitzpatrick. Even though he hadn't practiced. Yeah, I mean, he's a gamer and it could be Quincy and Noonwell who steps up.

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But I still do expect. I moved Brandon Marshall down to my rankings. He was up at, I think, like, six. I moved him down to about 13, but I still think he has a decent fantasy game. I don't expect a monster game. I do think Fitzpatrick at home coming off of a decent week last week. I expect him to have a better game than even Drew Brees this week. Yeah, that's amazing. Amazing praise.

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So tonight's game, Fitzpatrick has this NFL ranked 31st rank passer rating, but had a good week last week. Colts defense has been giving it up. So it should be, to me, this is a fantasy, maybe a makeup for a lot of this bad performance. Please. Bad performance. Please. Just 50 to 49 by the end of the game. You know who was not tormented this past week? Two teams, the Browns and the Titans, who didn't play any part in this fantasy madness.

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Now being reported, Robert Griffin should be starting next week. What does that do to prior? Oh, no. I don't know. I don't think it hurts prior. I think you're going to see prior run three or four nine routes. And honestly, for all of Robert Griffin's downside, the one thing that he is, I feel excellent on, is he can have really good placement on a deep. Yeah, his deep ball is nice. We should. There's probably a podcast out there called.

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Robert Griffin, the third's downside. And then every week, you just, it's probably a five-day-a-week show. All right, that's it. Hey, if you have a question for the show, we're answering more of them on the show this week. Send them into the mailbag. Go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. Click the submit a question button. 302-464 TFFB is the voicemail hotline. You can call in a question as well. We'll get those into the show. Hopefully we survived some of the bad performances this week.

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You know, maybe you were in the boat of, yeah, yeah, Drew Brees, but you played Colin Kaepernick or one of these other Matt Ryan. I know led a lot of people down this week. So hopefully you're still alive and you're still surviving. If not, keep it right here. We're a year-round show. We're going to get you ready for next season. We're going to get you ready for the playoffs. We will not let you do. You know what's coming up. I mean, we're still coming up. I mean, we're still coming up. I mean, we're still giving away some end-season awards. Start looking to next season.

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