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Early Breakouts & Busts - LIVE in Chicago

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Guess what percent he was a wide receiver three or worse? 66 percent! Because in four of nine... That's consistency, Mike. That is true. At least we know who he is, which is my point. So in four of nine games for the Cowboys last year, 36 or fewer yards, at the end of the day, Amari Cooper is going to have enough burst games that you look at the destination and you're like, oh, yeah, I got a top 15 wide receiver. He must have been great.

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And that's going to be everybody else looking at the people who took the road trip with Amari Cooper. I don't care. I do not care if Amari Cooper finishes as a top 15. I don't care if he finishes in the top 12 because we know who he is. He is a great wide receiver, but somehow he just manages to disappear in over half of his games. This is not a player I am selecting as a top 12 wide receiver.

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Thank you. Does Vopo agree? Yeah, I think that's probably smart. Sounds so good advice, Mike. All right. I'm not going to try to talk you back into Amari Cooper. He makes you really, really mad as a fantasy owner. Look, I'm going to hear from the Vopo three to four times. I told you. Yeah, I told you so. Amari Cooper dropped 150 and 2, and that was a great week. Enjoy the next four.

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It has been his historical career narrative, not fun to own. Half the time those games that you're talking about, he's on the bench. This is a wide receiver who is heading into year five of his career. That's like Sammy Watkins. Yeah, it kind of is like Sammy Watkins, you're right. And weird, you don't like Sammy Watkins. It's funny, I don't. You think we know who he is at this point. No. Because we know who Cooper is. We didn't know who he was.

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Until we read some of his tweets. Then we got out as a lizard man. Then we figured out he was a lizard person. But let's digress. You're not, yeah, no lizard people. Here is, here's something we were talking about on the flight over here. Someone rips their skin off in the crowd. We do exist. I would be back on them. Sammy Watkins if that happened. We were flying over here. We flew in today. And we got.

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We actually had... Unfortunately, yes. This was the great thing. Mike, you know what happened with Mike. He had a few flights canceled. The airline that shall not be named. Yeah, he's better looking than Tom Hanks, all that whole story. Yes. But the best part is we convinced him to get on a plane almost immediately. Or you did. And I'm here. And I'm here. And here's another little behind the curtains. We had two flights to come out here today. We were that afraid. Two airlines, two separate flights, just in case one didn't work.

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That's true. We knew you were driving a long ways. But here's the thing. I think they're just screaming out airlines they hate, which is all airlines. Delta! Did I hear a spirits? Those three destinations are awesome. We really do need to figure out a new way to fly as humans. But we were in the exit row, so that was a good thing, right?

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First off. Very tall. Need the leg room. We're in the exit row. We started to ask the intrinsic question. In the event, because they ask you, in the event of a problem on the plane, are you willing and able to assist the other passengers? Willing and able. Willing and able. And we were starting to just wonder, like if we're in that fight or flight situation when your heart is beating and your skin is flushed and your pupils are dilating and the panic is going on.

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Would you help or would you maybe accidentally jump out real quick? See you! Are you the first one out? Slamming the door behind you. And we all want to believe that the fighter flight would say, I'm going to save all these people. I'm just not like 100.00% that would happen. I hope that's the case. They should ask your percentage.

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What are the odds you're going to help if this thing goes south? 50-50. Yeah. You can stay. Amari's about 66%. Yeah. No wakes in row for that guy. No. But this player is going one spot ahead of Mike Williams. He is my bus this year. I'm in full physiological reaction to him. I'm sweaty. I don't. The fighter flight is there. And I can tell you with this player, I am jumping out immediately. Sure. Him too. But the answer is.

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Darius Geis. Yeah. Wow. The crowd loves Darius Geis. They've already drafted. And the simple answer with nothing to it is that it's just not going to happen for Darius Geist this year. It's just not. It might be next year. It might be the year after that. It might be in a time machine where he goes back and doesn't get injured in the preseason or Adrian Peterson isn't re-signed to the same roster and has an over a thousand-yard season in the offense.

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But it's just, I'm telling you, it's just not going to be worth drafting him. And like I said, he's going in the fifth round ahead of Mike Williams. I don't want any part of it. And there's several reasons why that you can look at. And first of all, it sucks to be out on Darius Geis because he's a good player. Right. But the variables are stacked against him. You've got injury, and then you had a setback to the same injury in his recovery. This is not just an ACL tear. This was an ACL tear plus.

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In infection, you didn't have Adrian Peterson this time last year. You got a prolonged kind of recovery process where videos of him running straight were highlights. And I think he'll get back. But I don't know if it's going to be right now. I know you have a rotation in this offense too. Yeah, I don't even care that they spent a fourth round pick on Bryce Love. Whatever. You still got Adrian Peterson who ran for 1,000 yards. You still have Chris Thompson, who back in 2017 when he was healthy.

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He was in on 33% of the snaps. The year before that, he was in on 45% of the snaps. Now, he's not going to do that again. But you give him 20, 25% of the snaps, and all of a sudden, Darius Geis is an occasional, get him in there, see if he's healthy, see what he doesn't do. You got AP and guys competing. I just don't want any part of that. So unfortunately, because of the draft capital, he's just a bust. And who's the quarterback? Sure. Haskins, Keenham, Colt?

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Are they on the goal line very often? Where are you going to get anything out of a rotational player? I wanted him to be a breakout, but he's a bust. I really believe it. To me, it's very interesting that people are willing to go into the fifth round. Into the fifth round with Darius, guys. Similar to Sony, Michelle, like, if you are not winning, then Darius guys, even if he has that two-down roll, if you're not winning, then...

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Darius Geis is probably not on the field very much. People draft players like Darius Geis because they don't want to draft players like Matthew Stafford. And what I mean is the has been, the Lamar Millers, the guys that have been through it, it's not fun. Nobody wants to go draft them again. You want to draft Darius Geiskees because you want to believe that he's a top, he could be a top five. He's never played an NFL down. That's the truth. Never played a regular season down in the NFL. Yeah, you're swinging for the fences, hoping you've got something great. And that's fun. It's fun to do. And it's impossible.

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for the Redskins right now with the depth chart, his past catching ability, the injury. I'm shocked. Like, when you say Darius Geis, that's your bus, I'm like, well, duh. Like, of course he's a bus. But the reality is people are drafting him ahead of Lamar Miller, ahead of other guys, ahead of... David Malmortunity? Coen. Yeah. They're really... Yeah. All right. The dinosaur hunter. It's a rock. All right. It is live mail bag time. Get your voices ready.

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If you wanted the live mailbag, we have some people that have been picked out for live mailbag. The microphone's coming out. You can go line up. It's live mailbag time. First come, first serve. I hope you're ready. Are you ready? Are you ready? Chicago. I think they're ready. All right, here we go. I'm going to say this. I don't know if it alienates other cities. Best one we've heard all year. Number one.

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Number one. I don't know if it alienates other cities, but I no longer have eyebrows. All right. We're in the mailbag. We got our first question. What's your name? Ask a question. Hello, when it was Tyler. Hey, Tyler. Thank you for coming to Chicago, by the way. This is incredible. Awesome. Happy to be here. I have joined an auction league this year. Ooh. First one. My question is.

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What landmines do I need to look out for? What mistakes? What are the big mistakes that I could make on my first ever auction draft? That's a great question. And there are mistakes to be made in your first auction draft. Definitely. I feel like when I did my first auction, where I feel like I went wrong, is I got into a point where I felt desperate. And players would come up, and I would look at my roster.

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and just start freaking out. If I don't get this guy, you're not getting to anybody. So I got to, are you getting this bidding war over a mid-tier player that you just, you don't, you shouldn't be spending your money on, but then you get caught up in that eBay situation where you see, that's where you got the Kooch, Jersey. It's true. When you see someone click that button, you're like, oh no, oh, not today.

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I'm going to get that player. And you end up overpaying for a player because you bought into the excitement of the room. And instead of staying with your strategy of really having your tier of players knowing when you actually have to panic. And I would say don't nominate the guys you want. Sit back a little bit in your first one. Let other people nominate players. Are the other players new to auction? They have all been. It's a keeper auction.

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Which is weird. I'm only doing it because I get my homes for cheap. Oh, very, yeah. Because my other tip, sorry, James, if you're in an auction draft with new people, don't wait. You can get players, if you're new to auction, then it's similar to players who are new to fab. They are afraid to spend the money. So it's like a bell curve where the early round, the early nominated guys actually go cheaper. Because everybody else is the 11 people freaking out and desperate. Yes.

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So if you're playing with new people in auction, don't be afraid to bid what you think is higher. Yeah, I agree. The other thing I would say a mistake that's commonly made is if you miss out on that first guy in the tier, you know, you're like, oh, there's this next tier of guys, I want one of these four guys or something. If you miss out on that first one, don't wait for the last one. The last guy in the tier always costs more than the second guy in the tier.

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Everybody's going, oh, shoot, that tier's about to be over. I've got to bid up. So once that first guy goes for, you know, top dollar, the next few are usually where the value is found. And then a couple later, you go, they're even more expensive. So, you know, that's where I like to find, spend my money. Thanks for the question. Appreciate it, boys. Yep. Next question.

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What's up, Ballers? I'm Austin. Austin, what's going on, man? You've got to talk into the microphone. We'll do, we'll do. So I'm in an embarrassing, embarrassing situation. The last three years, I have been the Brian Ketron. Whoa. Oh, Brian Ketron. What a loser. But do you have a... Thank you, sir. That was so loud. Yeah. Any advice. Three years in a row, though. He deserves it.

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And bring home that hashtag Foot Clan title. Give up those. Great advice. Out of curiosity. And this is a risky question. How long have you been listening to the show? Three years. Hey, getting to the title. Getting to the title is very good. So you did three years, you listen to Jason. I would switch it up. Mike and myself, either one. Yeah, that's absolutely great. If I look, unless you're in a money league, honestly, unless you're in a money league where,

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It's paid out first through third. If you, it's Ricky Bobby, man. If you're not first, you're last. Who cares if your second place? Like, you play for first place. And look, remember Jason's super team? Yes. I do remember the super team. Jason's things happen. If you apply the same principles that, you know, you hear on the show or that have work. Be very active in season. You can't play scared. You can't play scared.

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Yeah. Of the same thing happening. Now, did you have a question? Or invite Brian Ketran into your league. Oh, that's a great idea. That's step one. How many, do you got an open league? There's Brian Kethrin everybody. Oh, everyone booed Brian. Everyone boo him. Apparently when you lose in the listener league, you get to come on tour. So he might have some space and he can join your league. Thanks, Ben. Next question. Thanks for coming to Chicago ballers. My name is Daniel. Lean into the microphone. Just a little bit. Don't be afraid of it.

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My question relates to Startup Dynasty Leagues. What round are you taking a gamble on Tyreek Hill this year? Oh my goodness. Next question. Thank you. No. Look, the topic obviously, it's not fun to talk about, but that's an important question that a lot of dynasty owners are saying. Now, I would say this, it's totally 100% fine to just take them off your board. Say I'm not going in at all. And not because of just risk, but just because of I don't want...

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