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Important Questions + Injuries, Rookies, and Unobtanium - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/24

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But I believe that the point separation of starting with Devante Adams is where I would actually go. We have an update, Jason. Oh. It was in fact called unobtainium. I forgot how stupid the name. I did remember, I will say this. What I remembered about it was that it was a really stupid name. It's unobtainium. Mr. Cameron, this mineral is, it's unobtainable. What should we call it? Yes.

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Exactly. What is it? Unobtainium. It says how difficult it is to collect this mineral. And I love the movie. I can give backstory with no exposition. You know that the value is set immediately. This is not zinc. What's zinc worth? I don't know. Unobtadium. Holy crap. That's valuable. All right. Moving on. There's questions from Instagram from Piano Paul. Would you trade Camara?

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for Clyde Edwards Allaire in a half point dynasty. Saints running back Camara, brand new rookie chiefs running back, Clyde Edwards Aller. Who would you rather have? Well, my answer changed with the last word because I'm, you know, I've been in drafts. I'm taking Alvin Camara ahead of Clyde Edwards Aller, but not in a dynasty. Okay. If this is a dynasty league where you can, I mean,

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If in a redraft, you can make the argument that you can take or that you should take Clyde Edwards O'Lear over Alvin Camara. I don't think you should. I'm taking Camara, but the argument at least exists. The floor and the ceiling are very similar for both of these players. I trust what Camara has already shown in the NFL and I trust his touchdown prowess. But now if you're talking about, okay, Alvin Camara is going to be a free agent here, where's he playing? Is he playing for the Saints? Is Breeze there?

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Is he changing teams? Do they have to bring someone else in? I mean, I don't know, but here's what I do know. Clyde Edwards Aller is on the best offense for the next, I'm going to say 10 years because that's how long Pat Mahomes is under contract. And that doesn't mean Clyde Edwards, Aller is going to be great for 10 years. He's a running back. He was a first round pick. So you're talking that five years is the expectation from the team.

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Yeah, I'm certainly getting Clyde Edwards, Clyde Edwards All right. Off of Instagram. Keeper League, this is from Hunter Sapple. Keeper League, Jason. Kyler Murray in the 13th or DJ Chark, Chark Wing Duck in the seventh. So tremendous, tremendous value on Kyler Murray or also on DJ Chark, but.

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Kyler Murray, we are, and everyone should know, Footland, we have a big lineup of shows this week. We're going to be talking breakouts, busts, value, sleepers, all those really fun to talk about players. And in the breakouts, these are two guys that could be discussed. Kyler Murray, DJ Chark, they're awesome. I think Kyler Murray does break out, but DJ Chark in the 7th, that's not a huge value on him.

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It's, you know, it's a round. Maybe by the time draft season comes, if we've pushed his value up higher, maybe it's two rounds of value, not near what the value is on Kyler Murray, but I'm still going to take the wide receiver over the quarterback. All right. Because I can replace Kyler. Are you doing the same? Are you taking the immense value on Kyler? That is rough. My belief in Kyler Murray breaking out, I even projected as my number three quarterback, all the signs are there.

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for him to take the next step. That is very difficult to pass on Kyle. In the last two years, fantasy, you know, if you've gotten the late round superstar quarterback, it's been awesome. Yeah, which is. And you can't do that with Kyler because he's not a late round quarterback. So I was going to say, this is the bizarre scenario where you actually can draft Kyler Murray where people were able to draft Lamar Jackson last year. Ah, man.

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I'm probably still going to stick with DJ. I'm switching. You're going on. No, I am switching. We talked ourselves to the reality that you could take the chance on Kyler. If you want DJ Chark, instead of getting him for the sixth, draft him in the seventh, draft him in the sixth. Pull the trigger a little early if you really want him. You can't, even though you can find plenty of other quarterbacks in the 13th round that are fine for your team.

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You can't really find a quarterback in that range that has the probability of the massive step forward. I mean, you could hope that if you're taking Matthew Stafford, he does what he did the first half of last year. But, I mean, we've seen Matthew Stafford for many, many, many years. And he's never had a season that was just 16 games of the first half of last year. I don't know why we would think that would happen in, you know, whatever this is, year seven, year eight. Next question.

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It's off of the website, Jason, the guy that you are obsessed with, Miles Sanders. PPR running back Rusty wants to know, I can keep either Miles Sanders or Aaron Jones. Now you've talked about being risk adverse with Miles Sanders simply because the other running backs in that range are fantastic and we're not sure what's going on with the Miles Sanders injury. I don't have any updates. Perhaps you have an update on Miles.

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But you've tempered on Aaron Jones, so which guy are you going to keep? Yeah, I haven't seen an update. I don't think we'll get an update until he's back out there. We just know he's week to week, and nobody seems concerned. You've brought up. They're not making any transactions. The team really, truly does not seem concerned. A red flag would go up if they go and sign another running back right now, which they have not done. This is an easy Miles Sanders pick to me. While I...

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I do love Aaron Jones's talent. He's a, he's a tier below. So I'm not, you know, if, if I'm looking at Miles Sanders or or Kenyon Drake, two guys that I love that are going near each other in a draft, I'm going to go with Drake, but there are too many worries with Aaron Jones on the touchdown regression on A.J. Dylan, aka A.J. Villain. Thank you. That concern me. So I'm, I'm taking Miles Sanders here. I'm taking.

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Miles Sanders, I think. Very confident. Because I don't know what to do with Aaron Jones. I was so confident for so long. And then the glutes in the hamstrings, in the quads, they're infecting me, Jason. I don't know what to do about it. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. The Green Bay Packers offense could sputter.

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Just in general. I mean, we saw the worries when Devante Adams went down. But Aaron Jones is good. He's so good. Yes, Aaron Jones is good. But if the offense as a whole is average and they're not scoring just as a team as many touchdowns as they were before and the five yard in goal line opportunities go to villain, then it's, you know, it's going to be. Because Andy brought this up on a recent show. I think maybe it was our live event on Friday. The fact that.

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Aaron Jones was, you know, a top three running back last year and had the, what was it, 18, 19 touchdowns. It was unbelievable. And with all of that, he had so many bus games that hurt you in fantasy. Sure. He had complete disappearing acts that you don't usually see from a top six fantasy running back. Now if you dial some of that other stuff back, but you still have the volatility.

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I want a guy in Miles Sanders who has the chance to get 320 touches and just be consistent. And his bad weeks for my fantasy roster, they're fine. He caught four balls. Point, point, point. And, you know, had enough yards. He just was men. He's, you know, the running back 16 on his down week versus running back 50 on his down week. I checked with the computer because I couldn't do it myself. And you are correct. We're going with Miles Sanders.

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From YouTube, Brian wants to know how do you guys feel about running back Chris Thompson? I think he has a chance to return some solid fantasy value in Jacksonville, especially as the team passing downs back. Jay, what's your temperature check on Chris Thompson right now? Chris Thompson is a wonderful, super late last round pick, especially, not especially, only in PPR or half PPR leagues. He has never been able to stay.

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healthy. But when he's been out there, he has been a valuable fantasy asset. You know, a lot's been made about how much Leonard Fournett caught the ball last year, or I guess better to be said, how much he was targeted. Sure. He did not. Well, he caught the ball. He caught the ball. Yeah, but he was so inefficient with his receiving work. But the point is that the Jaguars and Gardner Minchu threw the ball to the running back.

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So they're, I mean, that's going to happen this year. They're not going to abandon that. They're going to keep throwing the ball and checking it down. Now, maybe it's all Leonard Fournett again, but maybe Jay Gruden, who brought over his favorite pass catching back is going to, I don't know, use the guy he brought over. So it's who is super efficient at that test. Yes, Chris Thompson is an incredible pass catching running back. Jason, over his time in Washington, you know, his third year, that's when he actually really started to play. Since then.

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He has averaged 55 targets, even with all those games missed. 55 targets. Yes, I agree with Jason that I think that Chris Thompson is an excellent late round PPR running back. And if he is the, to me, I know it's wild, but he is the biggest pause for drafting Leonard Fournett early because Leonard Fournett needs those targets, man, needs the opportunity.

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All right, this next question is from Ella off of YouTube. Who is more likely to finish as a top 10 quarterback? Drew Locke or Joe Burrow? Oh, this is interesting. Yes. Man, what a fascinating question. So I'm glad this question.

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was brought up. If you follow me on Twitter, you might have seen me talk about this this weekend. I'm not sure if you're aware Mike. I believe I know what you're talking about of. I was calling you out on Jerry Judy in the office of you saying, you believe in Jerry Judy. You fully believe in the talent. And I have no problem with that take at all. And you feel like he is going to be excellent in the NFL. And I said, okay, well, let's do this algebra here.

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Jerry Judy, if you believe that he is going to be great in the NFL, add that to Cortland Sutton, who is great in the NFL. He broke out last year. A plus B, now it's not just a quarterback sustaining one excellent fantasy wide receiver. He is sustaining two, giving him some intrinsic value. What are the results from your Drew Locke deep dive?

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Yeah, so I went this weekend and I watched the film because I'll be honest, I didn't really remember. You know, it was the end of the season. He played only five games and we're watching all these games at once. And so I don't feel like I had a winner, Jason. That's what he was. Yes, four and one. I'm aware of that. Ties the franchise record for most wins by a rookie quarterback. Oh, I didn't know that. Ties with John Elway. I did not know that as well until I was watching the film and the commentators were talking about it. But, um,

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I was impressed. I was impressed by Drew Locke, not in a way that I said, what a star, but definitely in a way where I said, this guy's capable of getting great weapons to ball. He is absolutely, he's got a rocket arm. He's not afraid to go for, you know, go for a really big play. And he's mobile. He can get out of the pocket. Now, to.

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To circle back to the original question, though, about him versus Joe Burrow and who is more likely to finish as a top 10 quarterback, I see Drew Locke as someone who is still going to be a little bit leased. He will be utilized to get his great weapons the ball. I think he'll succeed there. You know, I've got him over 4,000 yards and 25 touchdowns. That's a solid season. But to get to be top 10, you have to...

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dominate. You have to truly go out there and have a ton of rushing yards or a ton of touchdowns. And if I had to pick one, the film on Joe Burrow, they both have, both of these quarterbacks have great weapons, but the rushing ability, while Drew Locke does have some, I think people really severely underestimate how much Joe Burrow ran the ball in college, how much was designed, how much he picked up on each run. His rushing ability is, is,

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even better than Drew Locke's. So I'm going to take Joe Burrow as far as who has the higher ceiling for a true breakout, even in his rookie season. I would take, goodness gracious, I will take, I'll take Drew Locke here, AJ Green not practicing again, still not practicing. And when you say again, Mike, are you saying like this year as well as?

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