Top 10 QB Rankings + Rookie Fun, Space Garbage - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/12

is incredibly upgraded this year. You've got year two Rushie Rice, which you look at the first half of rookie season. He wasn't really involved in the offense. The second half of the year is like, okay, now he understands the playbook. He is on the field more and more. When Mahomes was not putting up numbers. Sure, when Mahomes wasn't putting up numbers, because the touchdown rate wasn't there. So his touchdown rate, Mahomes' touchdown rate over his career, 8.6, 5.4, 6.5, 5.6, 6.3. And then all of a sudden last year, it drops to four and a half percent. That's not super normal, but he was throwing to, you know, mostly you had MVS and Justin Watson on the field for the majority of snaps at Skymore. Now you trade up for a first round rookie, the fastest man alive in Xavier Worthy. He will be unleashed by Andy Reed. And even if he is not great for fantasy, he will be great for...

for Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes taking the defense and saying, hey, you got a, you got to account for this guy who is so much faster than your defenders, opening up the middle of the field for Rushie Rice. They did add, they did add Hollywood Brown. I'm just saying Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worthy and a year or two Rushie Rice, I think are good. And the touchdown rate is the thing that is like not usually, he had an outlierly low. touchdown rate. Nice. And so I, in six point. He's not discounted enough. They didn't, they didn't downgrade him enough in ADP. I agree. I think things are going to be better this year. I don't expect 17 and a half fantasy points per week. He'll be better than quarterback eight. But it's, you're, why do I got to pay quarterback three price? Yeah, you're, you're getting him at the back of the third right now on Sleeper. Like, that's the question. Jay, is your confidence in my home so high that?

you're willing to draft him. I'm not just saying 312 because if you have like the 308, you're probably not going to get Mahomes. You would have to go a couple picks early. Is that where you are with him for the season? Well, yeah. I mean, you could get him at the 308. I mean, his average draft position being the 312 means he's going to be near that 3-4 turn. And I am okay if I'm in a six point per quarterback touchdown, you know, for passing touchdown league. I am okay. He's my quarterback one. in six point leagues. Now, still the majority are four point leagues. What about eight point leagues? And they're still quarterback one. But if you're in a four point league, I still want the rushing touchdown upside of double digits from the big beef boys. Number two. I want every argument to end with big beef boys. Okay. Jalen Hertz. He's a big beef boy. Jalen Hertz comes in at number two overall.

It's hurt pretty good for a couple of years. Quarterback three, quarterback two. Going at 309 right now. How are we feeling about that price and any, you know, he's got elite talent on the outside. Elite pass catcher out of the backfield might not get his tush push as much. I do worry a little bit about Sequin's touchdowns. We talked about it on the running back episode, the fact that DeAndre Swift had. a lot of carries inside the five. You don't think of it that way because he didn't have a lot of touchdowns inside the five. He had opportunities to score that he didn't. He got it closer and then Jalen Hertz rushed it in. I can easily, easily see five of those going the other way. And if you take five rushing touchdowns away from Jalen Hertz with last year's production, you know, you might be disappointed. However,

They aren't going away from the push if they are at the one. He's going to get the ball and he's going to put it in the end zone every single time. And he's got great weapons. I love Devante Smith. I love A.J. Brown. I think he's got an upgraded offensive coordinator. And I just like betting on talent and the ability to rush in double digit touchdowns. I mean, he could lose five and still have, you know, double digit rushing touchdowns. Number one. Josh Allen. Excellent. We got to see them play some football without Stefan Diggs this weekend until they pulled them out in the middle of a drive. But quarterback one last year, then two the year before, then one the year before, then one the year before. So it's been automatic. 23 plus points per game for four straight years. There is a tremendous change in this offense. Sure. You're going to have, you know, it'll be very interesting because I want to know what downfield.

Bill's offense looks like. Right now I know, like the player had the most confidence in down the field right now is Dalton Kincaid. And that's a different situation than when we had digs and even as much as I didn't love him, Gabe Davis. Right now we have a player in James Cook. You could throw the ball out wide too. You've got a player in Curtis Samuel who, you know, quick, quick release is part of the game. Khalil Shakir, pretty, you know, he can get downfield. Will there be a trust there? Well, Keon Coleman, get opportunities. He was out there. I don't think he had a target. I can double check. But I was watching. He was out there a lot. Yeah, I was watching them in particular to try to see distribution. And he was definitely out there. I think he's number zero, right? Yeah, zero targets. Zero was also his jersey number because that's zero targets.

Keon Coleman. It takes a unique character. No targets. Let me just get this right. Neighbors had no targets, right? Right. Correct. Harrison? Well, he played like two snaps. Okay. No target. How many targets, Mike? None. Just saying, like, if we were so impressed with these rookie quarterbacks, they should let us watch the wide receivers, like try to catch the ball. They're holding on to them. They don't want the people to know. Maybe. But look, we talked a lot about Josh Allen. He's extremely safe. You've got to spend a second round pick on him. I don't see a precipitous drop, even if things aren't going perfectly for the offense. I mean, what are we talking about here? He's still a top five guy. Yeah, this is a guy who we make so much about his rushing ability, and rightfully so, 763 rushing yards, 762 rushing yards. This past year, 524 rushing yards. When the change came.

the offensive coordinator, he was on pace for 640 rushing yards. I don't have the number in front of me, but it's right around there. But we don't give enough credit to the fact that the reason he's the number one, three out of the last four years is because he's throwing the ball for 4,300, 4,000, 4,500, 4,500 passing yards. So there is a little bit of worry that that passing yardage comes down without Stefan Diggs. He was on pace. That second half of last year, once the offensive coordinator change was made for right around 4,000 yards, which is, you know, that's not what Josh Allen has been doing. That's several hundred yards under. But 4,000 yards with 600 rushing, you're still a top two quarterback. So he might not be lapping the field, but he's so consistent, so safe. And I do think that Dalton Cuccade steps up this season. I mean, that's just the normal projection and timeline for most tight ends, is that their rookie year.

They're behind the curve. And now he's been great at camp and I expect big things from him this season. So Alan at number one, Mike, anything you want to throw in there? Are we good wrapping up the countdown? He is great. I do feel a little apologetic that, you know, when you have a top 10 quarterback countdown, we're mostly highlighting ways you can go wrong because they're already like the ranking itself imbues the fact that we think it can go right. Yeah. And so a lot of the times we're just highlighting. things to be aware of so you can make that decision in your draft team context, how things can go one direction or the other. Because you've got to, I mean, if you draft Josh Allen, it's in place of another highly productive player. So there's our top 10 quarterbacks. And I think it is worth, I know we mentioned them earlier, but it is worth throwing Jaden Daniels name in here as the 11th guy because he is a great, great target at the end of your drafts.

You know, right now he's not very expensive. He's cheaper than anyone we talked about on ADP. Yeah, where's his current average drop position? He's in the 10th round 10.05. And so this is a guy who is very, very, very similar. I think he's not quite as good as Kyler Murray was, but he's very, very similar. And he's got Cliff Kingsbury as the offensive coordinator. Kyler's rookie year, he was the quarterback seven. That is completely in the range of outcomes. for Jaden Daniels is being a top 10 quarterback and you can get him for free in the 10th. I mean, honestly, you should draft him in the 10th. Like even if you've got a quarterback, you should draft James if he's there in the tent. All right. One more reminder, the ultimate draft kit for life giveaway this Friday plus a Justin Jefferson signed jersey. We're going to give those away two separate winners. All you have to do is order the 2024 UDK by Friday at 6.30 p.m. Eastern. We'll be giving it away live.

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