Fantasy Football Podcast 2015 - AFC West Breakdown, News, Mailbag

I recently did. Yeah, you're Biff. A couple of mock drafts this June. From where he has been drafting, I've been able to get Jeremy Hill, Randall Cobb, and Mark Ingram. He's pretty happy with that and planted on targeting all three in his real draft. However, in his recent mock, he was getting ripped for his Mark Ingram pick because people are buying into some of the C.J. Spiller buzz that he was going to out-touch Ingram this year. He thought that this guy was just throwing shade on Ingram.

But after doing some more research, he's starting to become wary of Ingram. So how do we...

Break these two guys down. Do you think that Ingram's the guy, is Spiller the guy, or who do you want in that New Orleans backfield? That's a good question. I love the value of Spiller right now in a PPR league. I really do think the more that I've looked into Drew Brees and the entire passing offense, I really think that there are yards unaccounted for right now that have to be filled by C.J. Spiller. He reminds me of Darren Sproles. He reminds me of everything that they need.

from the ability to check down, he's going to be so much better than Pierre was in that same role. And I think I like him. However, this is a very big question between PPR and Standard. You know, he quoted saying that he's got Jeremy Hill, Randall Cobb, and Mark Ingram. Those two guys are not past catchers. So if you're in a PPR, I don't really like that lineup of Hill, Cobb, and Ingram.

You know, I don't want to have multiple not pass catchers in a PPR. In PPR, I have Ingram and Spiller separated by two spots. I just noticed that. I actually, yeah, you have Ingram 16, Spiller 18. Yeah. Ingram is still the guy that I want, but if we're talking about just a value-based thing where it's Ingram in the third or Spiller in the fifth? Fourth? In a PPR, that's where he's going.

Yeah, then I'd have no problem. I love Ingram this year. He's going to be the goal line back. Yes, Spiller is going to get his catches and everything. But I really think that they showed the model of Ingram being the motor. Yeah, I mean, for me, it's what Jason said. It's flip-flop PPR versus Standard. If you're in Standard League, I have Ingram 19 and Spiller 24. But in PPR leagues, I have Spiller 15 and Ingram at 23. So it is...

just in production, not just value, I think that the difference is going to be there because I do think Ingram, I don't know, I couldn't project him very high when I went through it. So hopefully that gives you some perspective and you'll have to take a look at your league settings and kind of where that sits because I do think Spiller's going to have a role. I think we all agree with that. Let's go to a question from the website, the fantasy footballers.com. This one came in via Christopher. He drafts ninth in a...

Just the thought of it came in via him. Yeah, he delivered it. He did. He dropped it off. I was like seeing the envelope come out of his mouth and... Delivered. I draft 9th in a 10-team full-point. F-Po-Point? It says full point per league. I thought you was F-A-U-X. I think he means full point per reception. League. If he can, what do you think about the Mark Engram?

in the third, then coming back for CJ Spiller in the fourth. So maybe more of a follow-up. You know, that is so great. I was literally going to ask that exact same question to you guys about housing both of them on the same team, but I didn't want to take up more time. But now we can. Yeah, the Saints line much improved. Is it a good one-to-punch? Would you do that? Would you like to have both guys in third and fourth and just ride with the Saints running game? We talked about Jeremy Hill and, you know, and Gio Bernard, and we liked that. The reason I like that more.

than the Ingram Spiller combination is because of where you can get Gio. If you've got to get Ingram in the third and Spiller in the fourth, I'm not sure that I necessarily want to play both guys, you know, at the same time, given the makeup of the team and given the fact that we don't know. We just haven't seen Spiller in this offense. I would not waste two picks on that because your upside is you've got to be just really right.

They've both got to be amazing. Your downside is you spent two of your first four picks. Half your first four picks are hurting your team. That's exactly why. The unknown of Spiller plus the investment of my third and fourth picks, they're living and surviving on the Saints offense every single week where we saw them last year and they were not the best team all the time. So I don't want that heavy of an investment.

for RBs on that team. Did he email that question? And after we answered the first question, that was amazing, Christopher. Beautiful follow-up. Great follow-up. This comes in from Dave off the website. Good-day, buds. Good-A-Bud's messaging you from Pai or P-E-I. That's spelled like pay, like payway, right? Oh, payway. He's in payway. He's in a payway on the east coast of Canada. Get that Kong, Pound. And then he says, no, Ontario, Quebec or not on the East Coast. And he would be surprised.

Would be surprised if we could name any city, town or village, and pay. Oh, are you kidding me? Yeah, wait. We eat at a lot of payway. Okay, thanks for the insult, Dave. Nice try. In a 12-person PBR Keeper League, six points for return TD. As of right now, he's keeping DeMarco Murray, Marshawn Lynch, Jay Cutler. Smoking, Jay Cuddy. Vincent Jackson, Brandon Cooks, and Golden Tate. He needs to keep two more. Here are his options.

For two more. Charles Johnson, Anquan Bolden, Blake Bortles, Harry Douglas, Toby Gerhardt, Kenny Stills, and Jason Witten. Witten. For me, it's Charles Johnson and Jason Witten. For me, it would be Charles Johnson and I'm rarely torn between Witten and Bolden. I would go Bolden because I think you can draft Witten still. But I'm... We can draft Bolton.

Yeah, I mean, you really can't. I don't like any of these options. I mean, I almost wonder. I like Charles Johnson. No, no, no. I like Charles. I shouldn't say any of these options, any of the last option. I like Charles Johnson. We're all in agreement there, but I don't really like any of the other guys. I'm almost tempted, because you're going to be able to draft the other two guys, I'm almost tempted to keep Blake Bortles in a two-quarterback lead. Oh, no. I know, it's gross, but two-quarterback and then you can still, I don't know. Not even Alan Robertson can save Blake Bordles.

All right, last question here from Adam from the cheese state. He's looking for an advantage and he wants to target running backs that are in one running back system. So guys that are not in platoons, guys that are not in timeshares. Which teams players should he be targeting? And so we can kind of give him a few of those guys. It's not many. No, Eddie Lacey out of Green Bay, Adrian Peterson out of Minnesota. Aaron Foster. Aaron Foster, Lev Bell.

Jamal Charles for the most part. I think Jonathan Stewart will probably be that guy in Carolina until he's injured. Does he platoon with actual injury? Is that his timeshare? There's like Jonathan Stewart and then there's Jonathan Stewart in the hospital bed. No, you know who is going to be. It's going to be Cam Newton, people. Matt Forte is a guy who will get the rock.

the majority of the time, barring any surprises, which, I mean, he's been that guy for years. Marshawn Lynch, obviously. Basically, the guy's at the top of the draft. And the reason they're at the top of the draft, a lot of them are because we know that they're going to get the rock. They're going to get the touchdowns. They're going to get the passes. The one surprise will be four set. That's how he was used last year. And that's how Jason and I see him being used this year. Andy, not so much. But he's the, I would think he's probably the only guy you can get.

And who's not a real early. And Gore. Frank Gore, I believe, is going to be a three-down. That's a really good point. Workhorse back this year. You guys would be happy. Justin Forset's my 13. Yeah. Maybe you won't be happy because you have them at five. It's my 13 in standard. In PPR. Oh, you're right. It is in PPR. Yeah. And standard Mike has four set nine. I have him 13. In PPR, Mike has four set five. Cinco. And I have him eight. Wow. All right. So I've come around. You know, once I did my.

stats and math and such. Yeah. And I love it because, man, that is not agreed upon elsewhere, which just means the value is there for us and our listeners. What's our time? Check at. We're about to check out. Do you have something you want to add? Well, I just add something. That goes along with the theme of Sunday where if the, for the listeners who heard it, we did a show, we did a mock draft last week. And there was a, there was a situation where...

I was pushing for Jonathan Stewart at a spot, and I was overwritten by Andy and Jason because they wanted Latavius Murray. No, we're all out of time, Mike. So Andy has since figured out that Jonathan Stewart is the better pick there. And so to go along with Sunday, I believe that putting up his rankings like that is a good enough confession. But I need some atonement. So I wanted to...

Shame. No, no. Shame. No. Shame. Oh, man. That is a really good way to leave the show right now. That lady's the worst. Shame. Those are my first draft of my rankings. I knew that bell was coming. We just need another 20 minutes of it. Goodbye. See ya. For listening to another edition of the Fantasy Footballers podcast, don't forget to visit us on the web.

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