I'm going to keep him and Jordy Nelson. Now do I do. I don't have anybody else to keep. I trade away my entire team. Now, listen, I just got a whole bunch of other horrible players. And I might. I just need some help. So give me an idea. Should I trade back a draft pick and pick up somebody more valuable? Or do I keep Langford? Ah.
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - FNTSY Network's Jake Ciely, #FootClan Mailbag, News
Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - FNTSY Network's Jake Ciely, #FootClan Mailbag, News
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126 passagesThat's the best way to end. That's the end? That was the end of the call. The fantasy football sigh of despair. So the question is really, is Langford a worthy keeper? Do you need to be, let's put it this way.
Does our friend from Queensland need to be desperate about his keeper? No, definitely not. There are certain situations, put it this way. We just talk about Thomas Rawls having the possibility of being a bad keeper for Andy. The worst thing he could do right now is to go out and try to dump him for no value because he thinks that he's not going to return well or do this. And someone scoops up a guy who has that kind of potential when they're buying low, right? It's just like the stock market. You want to buy low and sell high.
You're not going to sell high on Langford right now, so you've got to hold on to him and hope that, because there is a path. There is a world here where John Fox, who doesn't like rookies, isn't going to really rely on Howard, the rookie there, and Langford steps into the Matt Forte role. We saw him in two games last year, put up over 60 fantasy points in two weeks. Yeah.
There is the potential here that he could be a good fantasy running back. Has Khadim Karee put up 60 in an entire season before? I doubt it. I don't believe so. And why am I worrying about Kadeem Kare? Yeah, I wouldn't worry about him. I think maybe we've spoke too low on Langford. The reality is there are some things that could break poorly for him, and there is an avenue ahead of him that could allow him to be an absolute breakout candidate this year. Your comment about my situation in Rawls is perfect.
Because what could I be doing with Rawls right now? Like, there's no option for you at this point. I mean, I guess the only other option that some owners. You could trade him to me, Andy. I mean, he's going to stink. Yeah, see, that you got somebody who's willing to take advantage of you. Or you could try to take advantage of somebody else who doesn't buy into the news and wants to pay a premium price. Yeah, I mean, obviously. Let me ask you this, throwing it out there. Would you trade Jeremy Langford for Matt Forte?
I'd rather have Langford at this point. Yeah, so would I right now. All right. Ryan and Jamestown says he has the fourth pick in a 10-team league. He projects to get OBJ and Lamar Miller. Both? That's not too bad. I like to draft on value at 24 I could see an issue. I have Brandon Marshall, Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, his guys I would be happy with at 24. Running back-wise, I don't see much. Maybe Lacey. What other guys do you think have value with the 24th pick?
If those guys are gone, would it be a terrible option to take Aaron Rogers? I am not taking Sammy Watkins or Lashon McCoy. Oh, anti-Buffalo. Apparently. He doesn't like those wings, apparently. I don't know. This is obviously a hard question to answer when you say, who will I be happy with at 24? Because we don't know everybody that will be there. We can say about, you know, guys that are on at least ADP.
look like they're going somewhere around there. If Mark Ingram could fall to there and you're worried about running backs, I think that that would be a great scoop up personally. Would you take Ingram or Mike Evans there? I would probably take Mike Evans. But I guess it depends on how my first couple picks went too. Because I'm close on those two guys, in which case if I had, you know, if I've got OBJ, I'd probably go with Ingram. All right, let's move on here. Josh in Minnesota.
Minnesota. I know you say titles aren't won at the draft, but the commission wants to place more importance on the draft by locking rosters from immediately following the draft through the Tuesday after week one. How do I convince him that this is completely and utterly ridiculous? Also, do you adjust your quarterback drafting strategy based on how many typically go in the draft? Taking a guy earlier or later of 75% of the league drafts to quarterbacks, etc.
Okay. So this is what... Let's handle them separately there. I will do the quarterback question. If I knew that 75% of the league is going to draft two quarterbacks, then yes, I will grab my guy a little bit earlier. I'm still going to wait because I know that what is considered the lower tier of quarterbacks is still going to be fine. There are so many great quarterback options. If you look...
at my rankings. I think Romo is crazily around the 20 area, and I would be perfectly fine starting Tony Romo in a one quarterback league. When they're drafting their second quarterback, somebody else is falling. Yes. And on top of that, but I will say you don't want to be the guy left holding the bag, right? Where if everyone's taking two quarterbacks and all of a sudden there's...
20 plus quarterback's gone, and you're like, well, I guess I'm playing Robert Griffin. So it's all about just monitoring the value and finding your spot where there's not an elite player dropping and all those things are factored in. Yeah, regarding the first question, I always say you don't win championships at the draft. The draft is extremely important. You build your foundation. You build your foundation there. You could do some things that will hurt you to be able to make moves in season.
But you win it later. And even with this format where he says, hey, the roster is locked until after week one, it's no different. It's really, it doesn't make your draft any more important in reality. Most of the time, when you go to week one, you know, it's pretty much with the team you drafted. Well, and I was going to say most of the time we recommend you draft so late that it's probably a weak gap between those things. Right. So you're not changing almost anything. And I wouldn't draft any different.
And while you can make the argument, I see it that it's ridiculous to do that, there's a little bit of fun in that too. So it's just a matter of preference. My argument would be trading makes leagues better. More activity makes things better. And if you're locking, say, you can't do anything, you're just hindering. What is your league doing? And our league, our league generally has at least one to two trades.
between the time of the draft ends and week one starts. It just happens because we're so active. And depending on when you draft, let's say you're drafting, you know, in the middle of the preseason or something. If you want to make the argument, make the argument about injury. You know, what if a guy gets injured and now you're locked and you can't make the necessary roster moves and pick someone up and drop him when he's out for the year? That's unfair. All right. Chase in Houston, I'm in a 12-team half-point per reception league, keeper league where you keep three players.
I will be keeping Lev Bell in the 6th, Alan Robinson, and the 5th. Pretty good start. He's trying to decide a last keeper. It's either Alshan in the 4th, Eifford in the 11th, or Jordan Matthews in the 12th. Was that a sigh of hesitation? It's Alshan Jeffrey in the 4th. It's going away. It is Alshan Jeffrey in the 4th going away. Yeah. Really? Okay. It's part of it's because you don't, you still got your first three rounds. You got Lev Bell in the 6th, Alan Robinson in the 5th.
Yeah, it, I for it and the 11th gives me pause. Just a pause. My answer would still be Alshan. And your pause gives Jason a grimace. And his grimace. It's because Jason looks like grimace. Gives me the creeps. Yeah. So, double insults, Mike. Yeah, my answer is still Alshan. Yeah. All right, Jimbo. Move on. Jimbo in Greenwood, South Carolina. I love the show, started listening last year and won my first title with your help. Yeah.
Big keeper question. Full PPR, 10-man league. C.J. Anderson in the fifth or Duke Johnson? Give me something good, Andy. In the ninth. Full PPR? Duke. Duke. Duke. Duke. Duke. Duke. Duke. C.J. Anderson in the fifth.
Oh, please don't answer that way. Or Duke Johnson. Anderson catches. A full PPR. Anderson catches passes. Oh, come on. He does. No, he doesn't. Yes, he does. Not on the level that Duke Johnson does. No, no, no, not anywhere close to the level, but C.J. Anderson also runs in touchdowns. And Devante Booker will catch passes this year. I think I would probably still go with C.J. Anderson. No, here's why. Because you're going to be able to draft Duke Johnson later. I mean, Duke Johnson.
This is the point where you're talking about the value of a ninth. It's a ninth round pick or a fifth round pick. It's the answer for me is C.J. Anderson, because I believe in him much more strongly than Duke. So you're saying, Andy, that you would definitely go with. I am Duke going away. Duke going away. Going away. Andy is all about taking a Duke. It's not, we just talked about this, right? I had to defend Duke Johnson on the last show. And I have Duke Johnson.
at number 19. I'm going to go to the ultimate draft kit. Look, man, you guys plowed right through my poop joke and it was really, really good. And that disappoints me. Yeah, we have to plow through a few of those, Biff. Every, every show. Look, I have C.J. Anderson ranked 22. Yeah, you hate Anderson. And I have Duke Johnson ranked 19. So now you're giving me my 19th guy in the ninth round or my 22nd guy in the fifth round. I think you know my answer.
At least you're consistent with yourself. Yeah. And honestly, I think both are good values. So I don't have a problem taking Duke because if you tell me, would you like Duke Johnson in the ninth round in a PPR, I would say 100%. Yes, sign me up for that. But I would also like, and I'm not a big fan of C.J. Anderson this year, relatively speaking for where he's going and where some people are pushing him up. No, he's your favorite player. We just talked about him up with Jake Seeley. Aaron in North. Yeah. Don't you put that on me. Aaron and no, he's your guy. He's your guy now.
Aaron in North Carolina. Hey, guys, love the show. Hey. Simple question for you. Who do you like better in 2016? Jeremy Hill or Geo Bernard? In PPR. Ooh. Which round would you take either of them? I can tell you, I project Jeremy Hill to have more points than Geo in a PPR to have more points, but I'm actually going to still side with Geo on this because what you're going to have in a PPR is you're going to have a consistent guy in Geo Bernard that you get
much later than Jeremy Hill as far as average draft position. And they're not, the point spread that I've got them for on the ultimate draft kit is not that far apart. I mean, they're separated. Jeremy Hill's a little bit ahead. Geo's pretty close behind, but I feel like week and week out, you're going to have more consistency with the past catching back. It's geo for me. In a PPR league, absolutely. Yeah, I think the answer is geo for me, but I have a question for you guys. We have a change in offensive coordinator.
And it was clear that Hugh Jackson had his roles pretty defined of who he thought should do what. With the new OC, do you think there is a chance that he says, bollocks to all that role thing, I want one guy? No. Not unless that guy's Joe Bernard. I don't think that there's a chance that Joe Bernard is a professional.
And he's productive. And he's a part of that team. So the only guy that's had any attitude issues on the team has been Jeremy Hill. It's a worthy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. He's not the only running back on that team. In full PPR, our- They've got some issues. In our full PPR scoring, we have GEO as the consensus 26, Jeremy Hill, the consensus 28. Yeah, I would go Gio. So you have them basically tied in PPR. It's very close. So Brandon and Mansfeld, Ohio.
Mansfield. Tough decision on who to keep. I'm in a two-player keeper league, and I'm keeping Thomas Rawls, who was undrafted. And I can't decide between Andrew Luck and the 8th or Kevin White undrafted. I'm assuming that an undrafted player gets kept basically for free. Yeah, that's probably true. And I need my obligatory. Yeah, I know. Dumbro. I knew that was coming. Let's answer these ones quick here, because we're getting towards the end of the show. I would take Andrew Luck in the 8. I would take Kevin White. And I would tie break with Andrew Luck here.
All right, Jake and Grand Rapids. What are your opinions on Stefan Diggs? Where do you see him going in drafts? And is he worth driving over Kevin White? I would rather have Kevin White. So would I. 100% yes. And is he worth drafting very late? Yeah. Stephen Diggs? Yeah. Okay. Very late. The same way that you would take a flyer on a Brandon Coleman or something. I'll say this. You want me to give you a name that I would rather have on my team than Stefan Diggs?
Better not say Jerome Simpson. No, no, I know where this is going. No, you think you know. Who? He thinks I'm going with the Browns, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, I am going with Brandon LaFelle. Completely overlooked. I mean, thrown...
