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Fantasy Football Podcast 2016 - FNTSY Network's Jake Ciely, #FootClan Mailbag, News

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the capital there that we see of the talk early where they wanted to invest early. So once a guy's chance, we saw what he can be. I have no concerns about this. Chris Johnson probably spells him a little bit, maybe five, six, seven touches a game at most. And at this point, Andre Ellington, we all know. He might see the field for two or three touches and maybe hurt in week four. Yeah, exactly. No, DJ is definitely a guy. We are not afraid to draft here. Let me talk about a guy that...

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I am afraid to draft that it seems you are not afraid to draft. And I think amongst us at the footballers, we've got different opinions. I believe Mike is high on him. I don't know where you stand, Andy. But that is C.J. Anderson, the guy who has duped me before because of the potential, but he hasn't gotten the workload. But you've got him at RB11. He's an RB1. So why are you confident in him?

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Well, I'm laughing over here because it still has not ended to this day for the fact that I ranked them number one at running back last year. I can't get away from it. People are still cursing me this day. So you know what the funny thing is is I could probably rank them anywhere I wanted and people would just dismiss me because of what happened last season. But look.

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I know we, I said the same thing last year, and I know we're going right back to the well, but he looked terrific in the second half. Actually, especially the last couple games in the season, including the playoffs. He looked like the C.J. Anderson, we were all excited about for last year. And, you know, the factors were, oh, the running back behind Peyton Manning is always great. Obviously, that didn't play a factor there. But, you know, I look at this team. They're going to be run more this year. It's looking like we might actually be looking at Mark Sanchez as the quarterback. So you got to think they're going to be a run heavy. You still have to marry a time.

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Thomas Emmanuel Sanders, which are going to keep defenses honest. And again, I just go back to the fact of once he was healthy, once the offensive line had some type of semblance who was doing a decent job in the second half of the season, we saw the real C.J. Anderson. There is huge bus potential after what happened last year. I'm not ranking a number one in running back, but he's still an RB one to me because he's, this is his backfield. That being said, because. That's a good, yeah, very, very nice hedge it, hedge it. I always say, look,

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For the concerns of him, a lot of people don't understand this. He actually actually hasn't been a picture of health. So if I'm drafting C.J. Anderson, similar, if I'm drafting Levian Bell, I'm looking very hard at Devante Booker, who is my number three running back going to this draft late to maybe handcuff him. I'm not a big fan of handcuffs, but situations like that where you have the guy coming in who should.

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assume the bulk of the carries, that's where I would probably take Devante Booker if I draft the Cesarters. And that's what I was going to ask you. You mentioned pro-Cise earlier and how much you had confidence in him. I was going to ask how you felt about Devante Booker. He seems like he would obviously be an affordable handcuff for fantasy owners. And I assume you're more dismissive of Ronnie Hillman having any role back there. I think everybody is at this point. At least smart people are. For years. For years, we try to do that.

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We tried. Never kept trying to throw him down our throats. So hopefully I think they finally realized because he seemed like one of those late, yeah, we'll sign you just for depth type of situations. Yeah, absolutely. Let's talk about a couple of wide receiver situations before we let you go. I want to talk about. Oh, no. I'm not letting him get off without my talk on tight ends. You do have a tight end discussion. So we got some wide receivers and tight ends. Yeah, from the next couple hours. No, no. Kelvin Benjamin is somebody who.

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uh i'll be frank i i just have a hard time getting behind um i don't think you have him unreasonably ranked by any means i mean you have him at uh as a two i i worry about consistency and i'm and i'm unsure of what we'll see from that offense obviously everybody went into last year thinking you know he had no weapons when benjamin went out uh fun just didn't play a huge role but what is what is your overarching kind of feel about the talent of kelvin benjamin and what he can bring from a consistency standpoint

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Well, why you have to throw on the consistency part? Just to make it difficult. Yeah, that's the downside of Kelvin Benjamin. Look, the thing is with him is, Ted King.

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can do well in this offense. I'm pretty sure Kelvin Benjamin could come back and do well. That's all I'm saying. But with Kelvin Benjamin, it's all about being the red zone threat. That's what I liked about it. As the rookie, you saw him, he put over 1,000 yards. He had the eight touchdowns. So I'm looking at nine touchdowns. So I'm looking at that to possibly repeat this year. But it's going to be the consistency factor where this is why he's 20th and not near the top 15, because similar to guys in the top 15, where even in the soft weeks, you get 5, 6, 7 points in the standard league, a little bit more in PPR. He'll have some.

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weeks where he only gets two. And that's what's really going to hurt you. That's why you want them as a Y receiver too. And I would actually prefer, you're probably not going to do this in a lot of draft. But maybe if you go Y receiver, Y receiver, with your three picks, you can get him as your third. And I would love that. But as best, I still don't want him as anything more as my low end Y receiver too. I wouldn't want to put it this way. I wouldn't want to wait on Y receiver for my first guy and draft the Brandon Cooks and partner him with Kelvin Benjamin. Does his return negatively affect Olson's red zone?

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presence? I don't think so. I think maybe you take off a little smidge. The Tempans don't know how much fun. If Funches gets on the field more, I think that would, you have Funches and Benjamin both on the field. I think that would hurt.

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Greg Olson more than anything because now you have two big body similar type of guys who are basically giant tight ends at the wire receiver position. I think that could hurt him. But just Kelvin Benjamin himself, I'm not too concerned because Greg Olson is still always going to get his. Cam Newton loves Greg Olson. Yeah, yeah. And Greg Olson really has never been the red zone. I mean, he's not going to put up double-digit touchdowns. That's not where he gets his value.

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generally in most years, you know? Right. So speaking of that tight-in position, here's the giant tight-ins, the best of the best.

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I have been really, really high on a guy. I was high on him going into last year and he got injured. Then he got traded to the Saints. And I really, really like what we see in Kobe Fleener. I think I've got him ranked as my third or fourth tight in. And right now you've got him at Titan 10. And Ladarius Green, who's got great upside at Titan 9. So I am just curious.

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What your take is on what we're going to see from Kobe Fleener out of the, out of the Saints offense, in part to, for our listeners who know my Kobe Fleener love and my belief in where you can get him and he's probably one of my main targets, maybe I'm wrong. So speak some truth to people on where I maybe am overlooking something.

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You know, I don't really have that big of a problem where you have them. I just prefer the people in front because I have Delaney Walker, Gary Barnage, Kelsey Thomas, Ertz for everybody listening. I think that Walker and Barnage both still to believe being the top five. I think that Barnage is going to be a huge part of the Cleveland offense because they need options. And I know they drafted a bunch of – they drafted all the rookies they could at Y Receiver. But at the same time, you look at what Barnage did last year. He was second only behind Grancowski. Oh, Barnage is great.

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Yeah, so I think that he deserves to be in front of him. When you get to the Kelsey Thomas Ertz range, which are the three ahead of Green and Fleener, I don't have a problem with that. I can actually see Fleener finishing 6. I can see him finishing 13th. It's just the risk of the fact of...

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Is this the truth of the saints of what we saw last year of how much they went to Ben Watson and the same thing with Fleener? I think he's going to be a great red zone option. I just don't know that you're going to get the consistency. He's similar to Kelvin Benjamin. He's Kelvin Benjamin at the tight end position. I think that's what you're looking forward for this year. So he could get double-digit touchdowns, but I think the same of Lederius Greed. I just have Lerius Green. I just have Lerius Green confidence a little bit more in how much he's going to be used because we don't have Martavis Bryant. Now, if Martavis Bryant was playing this year, I would have flipped it. I would have had Fleanor. I had a green.

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Yeah, it's so hard, too, with those middle, you know, maybe third tier tied in level where any of those guys, I think we can all be honest with ourselves and say they could finish ahead of anybody else. I mean, when we were breaking down tiers yesterday, it was kind of like Grankowski and then maybe Reed and his own and then about six or seven guys together. So.

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It will be interesting to see. Fleeners had those monster games in his career where he goes out and has a high yardage games and then dies off. So we'll see what he can do in New Orleans. So one of the things we like to do here is bring on some different opinions, educate our listeners. We want them to make good decisions. So we really appreciate Jake Sealy, the All In Kid. You can find him on Twitter at All In Kid. He's a great follow and we appreciate you coming on. Oh, absolutely. I appreciate it coming on finally. Hey, absolutely. We'll do it again. Take care.

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Thanks. All right. Very good to talk to Jake Sealy, Fancy Sports Network. Love the guys over there. During the year, we have Chris Meanie on quite a bit with the DFS segment, Nando Defino, Pat Mayo. Mayo is showing up here pretty soon. Are we going to be able to survive him? I don't know. I'm going to have to drink some energy drinks just to keep up. I'm going to wear a shield or something like that. I don't know. I need protection against Pat Mayo. He'll be fine. Yeah, he's great. So we'll have him on as well. All right, let's jump into the mailbag.

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Mailbag. Michael Bag. Took it easy. You made it. You took it easy. You made it through. All right. Like I said before, you got a question. Go to the website, the fancy footballers.com. Click the submitted question button, or you can dial us at 302-464 TFFB. We love answering listener questions. It's why we do this show. It's because of you. Your team. Your Foot Clan titles. All right. Let's go to Andrew in Tampa, Florida. He wrote in. And he said,

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And, oh, this is the question that I meant to get to on the last show. Yes. You're like, oh, we're not going to talk about Jimmy Graham right now because we've got a question about it later. And then we didn't have a question about it later. Right. That's true. This is what you meant. This is a lot later. How do you think Jimmy Graham will do in his second season in Seattle? I feel like he will be a bigger part of the offense with one year under his belt. What do you guys think? Love the show. Thanks, Andrew. Thanks, Andrew. That knee, man. That's, I think.

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Pretty much the worst thing that you can have happened to your knee playing football as you tear your Patel tendon. We've seen in recent history, we have Ryan Williams from the Cardinals, Torres-Peteller in preseason. You never saw him again. Two years later, he was given a chance at a comeback, and he had just lost a step, and he wasn't ever able to recover even after having the full extra year off.

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Victor Cruz, we are now about two years, or maybe a year and a half or so, removed from his tearing his patele tendon. No, he was going to be ready for week one last year, right? Yeah, he was, and then... So I'm sensing some doubt. Some doubt about Jimmy Graham. There is a high amount of doubt that Jimmy Graham will either play this entire year or if he comes back and effective. I mean, maybe the second half of the year, but I just, I'm not feeling it. Let's...

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Let's put the injury, not completely aside, but let's just put that aside a little bit. They are not desperate for Jimmy Graham's immediate return. They have Luke Wilson. Wilson. And Jimmy Graham was somebody who, during the time he was there, he almost never got near the offensive line. He was split out wide. He was running routes. Luke Wilson does both of those things. Luke Wilson's fine. They can ease Jimmy Graham back if they want to.

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And it's just, I would just be so surprised to see. Now, some people are reporting around Seattle. He's recovering exceptionally well. You'll see him before you expect. Just like Victor Cruz. I know. I know. Yeah, I don't expect. I mean, there's no chance that I will draft Jimmy Graham in a single league this next year. But he'll be drafted. He will be drafted. What if you could throw him on your IR spot? Sure. I mean, if you can throw him on your IR spot. But how high of a pick would you give up? You know, I still probably would. I just don't.

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I mean, sure, I would use my last pick to throw him on an IR spot. Now, that's for Jerome Simpson. That's actually, that last pick is only Jerome Simpson. What is what is happening? We're going to a voicemail question. Good-day, fellas. Sean from Australia, calling here. I'm calling from the sunny Queensland. I just got a question for you regarding my keeper league. I've been part of this league for years. And listen, mates, I've got a problem. You got everybody keeps bad mouth on Jeremy Langford, and he's my keeper.

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