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Mock Draft Mayhem! + Vacation Mode | Fantasy Football 2024 - Ep. 1587

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A mock-draft special opens with an overblown sci-fi UDK voiceover, family vacation explanations and a mayhem format where Jason can disrupt every pick.

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Oh, no, I wouldn't. I've got Kyron Williams. I don't want to double that up. I don't want to double the Rams here. In that case, I would also go Jalen Waddle. Andy hates Jalen Wattle. It's tempting to just give you Cooper Cupp because I feel like you could have stumbled into that in a real draft and made the mistake. Uh-huh. People are human. And so let's go ahead and do that. Yeah, go ahead and take Cooper Cup. Because you, you know, you see the name. It's a third round. It's PPR. That's not necessarily a bad pick at all. No, I like Cup and I think both can succeed. Usually if I'm talking about a second and third rounder, I would prefer to not have a running back and wide receiver from the same team. But it's, I'll survive. Were you saying something, Mike? I was saying, like, I have 100% done that in drafts in my past. Well, you almost did it with A. Chan and Waddle. But I'm like where I was okay with it. I'm saying I've had it happen.

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I think there was a year where... Oh, where you didn't notice? Where I took, like... This was back the Alfred Morris years of Washington. Pier Garcin years. And then later on, I took Pierre Garzaan and immediately was like, oh, no. Just got too caught up and seeing the name there? Yep. All right, so Gibbs, Kyran Cup, Breece, A. Chan, McBride. After Cup went Waddle, finally off the board. Neither have you got him. I don't know why. They were, he was sitting there for both. Yeah, we probably should have drafted. Yeah, I should have taken him. Diggs goes at 312. Mind you, Nico win at 304. I like paying attention to where the Texans wide outs are going. Rashad White, who Mike wanted to potentially take by goodbye. Isaiah Pacheco at 402. Jason, you're back on the clock. So I'm going to be, I'm going to be pretty happy here if I get a wide receiver because starting with Cooper Cup and.

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Either Devante Smith or DK Metcalf or Tank Dell guys that I see as a really good wide receiver 2 option for your team, along with my two powerful running backs I would be happy with. And I feel like there's those three guys and then a massive gap. To me and my tiers, my rankings, you know, going down to the Zay Flowers types, the questionable Malik neighbors who could be a great pick, but obviously you're playing with a little bit of fire. So... I will try to draft the guy that I've been getting in every single draft because I know I'm just way higher than ADP. He's always there for me. As my wide receiver, too, I would take DK Metcalf. Am I allowed? Mayhem. You got a long wait for wide receiver. So I'm going to go with my pick again. Mayhem? I get to pick again, but not the same position, which really ruins it for me. Well, thankfully. I want to see what it thins out to when you've made the Gibbs-Kyron decision early. Oh, I do too.

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I do too. I want to see how that works. So much curiosity. I'm just so curious. In the air. What's crazy is both Mike and I are going to end up thanks to Mayhem with one wide receiver through four rounds. That's going to be a little dicey. I guess at most. You're counting my chickens. I love Jalen Hertz. It's him and Josh Allen in most leagues. Him falling into the fourth round is a layup for me. So if I can't have a wide receiver, I got my stars at running back. I'll add Jalen Hertz to the roster. Any thought in a PPR?

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To have gone Mark Andrews there. Yeah, I mean, Mark Andrews, I think, is underrated and is great. But if you look at what Mark Andrews is to the tight-in position, he is not what Jalen Hertz is to the quarterback position. So I wouldn't take him over Hertz. Okay. So Hertz at 403, Hertz Cup, Chiron, and Gibbs. Stroud goes next. So that would be that would be Stroud ahead of Mahomes. People are crazy out there. That's too rich. That is. I think you will see it. I think so too. Malik neighbors at 405, Mike, you are back on the clock. You are fresh off of a pretty incredible Trame McBride selection in the third. I didn't know you loved him that much. Hey, number one. But what are you thinking about here? I mean, Mark Andrews is on the board. Just the old. Give me the pick. Who says it's a onesie. I'm going to play him in my flex. Right.

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I am looking at the wide receiver position, and it's, I mean, the ADP is correct of Devanta Smith, D.K. Metcalf, Tank Dell, those are the guys who are left. How do you feel about that as your wide receiver one? It's not my favorite thing in the entire world. And it's, I think where it also is extra difficult is, look, Devanta Smith is the wide receiver two on his team. Tank Dell is. I don't know. You know, like, maybe he's the one to three on any given week. Yeah, maybe he's the one. Meanwhile, D.K. Metcalf, who I'm not as high on as Jason is, he's the number one guy on the team. So is, do I take the player, like, because I've taken out higher in my rankings by a little bit than D.K. Metcalf, but the case for sealing.

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As D.K. Metcalf bounces back and he is the true number one for Seattle. That is such the most difficult decision is taking twos with a Stroud or a T. Higgins with a borough or taking the one with a Gino Smith. Yeah. So it's hard to fight just the emotional appeal of it. I think I would, I think I'd go D.K. Metcalf would be my pick. You can go ahead and make that pick. All right. Go ahead and take him. Eat that, Jason. D.K. Metcalf off the board. It's a good pick. Brees Hall, H.N. McBride, Metcalf, and we will take a quick break, and I'll come back and read the picks all the way up to Mike's fifth round selection. After Metcalf, Mike's team is Hall, H.N. McBride, and Metcalf, Jason has Gibbs, Kyron, Cup, and Hertz. After Metcalf, it went Mahomes, Lamar, Devante Smith, Mixing, Andrews, Ken Walker, Camara, Flowers, Cooper.

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James Cook, George Pickens, who you might have been eyeballing, and Dalton Kincaid off the board at 506. Seeing this board, real quick, I know I made you take Tray McBride. Yeah. That was a mayhem. Jason, would you rather have McBride at 307 or Kincaid at 506. Oh, I would rather have Kincaid at 506. A two-round gap, because if you look at the players, you know, that were drafted after McBride, you know, Nico Collins. I'm sorry, Derek Henry was after him. If I could add that with Kincaid versus the running backs on the board, absolutely. All right, Mike, you're back on the clock. And you let out kind of a disgusted sigh. Did you have something bad for lunch? No, no, I did okay for lunch. But I may end up with some tummy problems. Just quick note about because you're talking about the board, I think we're all in agreement that Zayflowers is going too high.

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in drafts. I am in agreement, yeah. Where are you at? Yes, ahead of Cooper and Pickens, I would not be putting him there. Okay. But I do worry, I just don't want to swing the pendulum too far on our doubts for him because, you know, he's a young player that contributed in year one, made big plays and has the ability to move forward. We got news that Rashad Bateman is doing Rashad Bateman things in camp, which he's irrelevant. They don't have Beckham, right? Like, I mean, there are. Right, yeah, yeah. Like, Zay Flowers needs to be properly drafted. not ignored out of like an anger that he's too high and not drafted too high just because you're excited about him as a sophomore. The hilarity of months of everyone on the team trying to prop up Rashad Bateman, including the coach. Yeah, that is exactly what it is. And then we just got this. Look, it's an opinion, but it's not great to have that happen. Anyways.

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Point being, Tank Dell, who I would have been happy to take it 406, fell to me at 507. And that is my pick. Yes. Yeah, that's the problem. Yes. That's the problem. I'm going to give Jason this selection for you. So he can make the pick for your team. 507, Jason. It is your selection. Now you have a pick three away. Okay. So. All right. Well, let me see here. I can go any position here. He really needs a wide receiver. So that's not going to happen. I'm sorry, Mike. Okay. Running backs, there's still some, there's some value there. I like Aaron Jones. Andy doesn't. He'd love if I picked Aaron Jones. You already have a titan. I'm not going to do something insane. No, we don't want. Stack you. I am going to actually give you someone that I think is a value in the fifth round. It is a gamble. Not a value. It's not a value. He's a good selection for the potential upside. I know he's throwing with his left hand, but I think Anthony Richardson is a valuable player. All right.

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You know, starting with one wide receiver going into your sixth round is going to be tough. It sure is. Oh, yeah, I got to make the pick. Sorry. Okay, cool. Anthony Richardson. Oh, take Dell felt to me. Am I allowed to take Take Dell, Andy? Yeah, go for it. What a great pick. Man, how lucky am I? Yeah, you're super lucky. Anthony, Mike's loving this. Huh. Anthony Richardson and 507 Connor Pitts and then Dell to Jason. You did that very quickly. Oh, yeah. Keenan Allen, T. Higgins, George Kittle, DeAndre Swift. You're back on the clock in the sixth round. I'm not going to make you go through the song and dance. I'm going to give Mike the ability to make this pick for you. It will be a small, you know, salve to the pain he's endured. Mm-hmm.

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But Mike, if you want to undermine his roster, you can feel free. He's got Gibbs, Kyron, Cup, Dell, and hurts. It's actually pretty. I feel like I know who he's going to get me. Just to hurt me. Just to hurt me bad. I wish I could identify who that player was. Oh, do you want me to work with you? Yeah. He's healthy. I looked at the ADP. I wasn't sure if it was too out of control. But if you needed to make sure you had. Brock BM Bowers on the roster, but I'm not going to go that far. I'm not going to stray away from the ADP because your roster, look, we are, it's PPR, we want those wide receivers. This guy was drafted to be great, along with his rookie quarterback. Yeah. But somehow here in the sixth round, he's still on the clock or on the board. Mr. Rome Adunze.

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Really? You went a Dunez? I wish this was a Dynasty League because I think he's a good player. Yeah. But I do not want him to be my wide receiver three. That's with ADP? With PPR. Yeah, that is with ADP. He was at the very top. Interesting. I didn't pull. I didn't pull any shenanigans. I just gave you best available wide receiver. Well, thank you, Mike. I mean, I am happy to get a third wide receiver. That would have been position I would have gone after with the quarterback. Good Lord, I have one. Yeah. Are there any more mayhams left for Mike? Yeah, Andy's pick. Oh, fantastic. No, you have a pick again, different position. That's the one I have left. Oh, is it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I had already, I already gave you Tram McBride. So Adunzei Jones, Montgomery, Mike, you're back on the clock. You have Breece Hall, A. Chan, McBride, Metcalfe, and Richardson. So I wish it could be Rishi Rice, but we still have no idea what's going on with his off-the-field shenanigans turning into.

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a multi-game suspension of some sort. This tier of players here, so it's like Christian Kirk's at the top, Rice, Terry McLaurin, who's just always been good, but now you have the rookie quarterback. I think, honestly, like, if this were my roster, I'd be looking at, I need a player I know that is going to at least give me something, so I would take Christian Kirk. Yeah, go for it. Go for it. You can take Christian Kirk. I know I could put you into... I wanted you to just zip up the body bag and throw them in the ocean. Yeah, I could have. That was the name that like, from a reliability standpoint, that was the threshold. Yes. This is the type of build where you are, you are dreaming of Christian Kirk. You know, if you need your wide receiver two and you're this late in full PPR, you want just... I know he might not have the upside as...

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some of the players that were on the board. But his floor is so high. He is reliable. He's going to have a ton of targets in this offense. I think it's a great pick. Romandre goes at 607, then Rice, Burrow, Prescott, McLaren, and Ingram to finish the sixth round. Godwin, Kyler, Mostert, Pollard, Addison, Naji Harris. Mike, you're back on the clock. So let's see. So I got Brees Hall. I'm actually now just... I'm balanced, but I have two onesies in here making it feel really bad at the depth for this team. But Brees Hall, Devon A. Chan McBride. H.N. is a bit of a wild card. Yeah, which that was part of it. I knew what I was getting myself into not going with Travis E.T.N. right there. Metcalf, Richardson, Christian Kirk. Is there somebody that you love right here? Like one name? There is not somebody I love, but it would be another. I'm going to try and lock in some PPR value.

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and he does sit at top of the ADP. It's, Jaden Reed would likely be my pick, just real quick working through it. Like Xavier Worthy, I'm okay with the value right here shooting for upside, but, I mean, if he misses, that's going to be devastating for my team. I'm not in on Hollywood Brown. Calvin Ridley, maybe, with the contract and the hope with Will Levis. But I would take Jaden Reed. I try to get the presumed number one PPR guy for Jordan Love. But that's my pick. Well thought out. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Oh God. I mean, I have to take another position. Yeah, you got to take another position. He threw you in the ocean in a body bag, but he didn't zip it up all the way. You have a chance, Mike. This is great. No, because I'm picking a running back. I have a quarterback and I have a tight end. It's all right. You got your guy. We were talking about him earlier. Was severe? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. On the board. But like I said.

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The big question mark was Samir Writers. You got Moss? Is he going to catch passes? Yeah, Zach Moss, I feel more confident, is going to catch passes. So it might be a reach 80P wise, but I'm going to take Zach Moss. I don't think that's bad. I think your wide receivers are bad. Jaden Reed goes next, Nick Chubb. At least there's two of them. Yeah, at least there's two. And that is due to my mercy. All right. Jason, three of your last four picks were wide outs. Cup, Dell, Adunze. Yeah, Jalen Hertz in there and then Gibbs and Kyrin to start the draft. I'm out of mayhem. So you guys are cruising here to finish this draft out. Yeah, we can do whatever we want. There are a handful of players I really, really like. The player that I want to take Ladd-McConkie. There's two players here that I want. One Ladd-McConkie and Jonathan Brooks, both rookies. Ladd-McConkie has, the reports from OTAs have been outstanding. He's dominating. He's getting all the targets.

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Um, Kuge is just doing his best Rashad Bateman. And so. He's doing his best just in life. Yeah. And so I. Wait, have there been actual negative reports about Kuge? Uh, there have been. Just thrilling reports. Yeah. It's been like shiny stuff for Ladd McConkey and then like huge is still there. Yeah. Um, honestly, I'm looking at like I personally believe in Ladd McConkey. I like his opportunity. And I am doubtful on Calvin Ridley. But Andy has been so bullish on Calvin Ridley that it, you have really talked me into, you know, and you look at the ADP. I mean, Calvin Ridley is a huge value here, whereas Ladd McConkey is a slight reach. Calvin Ridley in the seventh is silly. It does feel that way. Given the fact that my team started with two running backs and took a quarterback in the first four picks, I'm going to go with old reliable on Calvin Ridley over Ladd McConkey. And then we'll see if, uh,

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Lad comes back to me. He does not. So then I'll go Jonathan Brooks. That was quick. This is a running back that I said I want to leave almost every draft with. I just hope his ADP stays down and he is. Which the last report was on the negative side. Yes, exactly, which I was thrilled. After Ridley, Worthy, Love, McConkey ahead of you and then BM at 802. Just want to let you know where he went. You went Jonathan Brooks, then Zemir White off the board so Mike could not back. not combo moss into Zamir, not that he would. And then Hollywood Brown at 8.05, Mike, you're on the clock. You're looking wide out. Can I interest you in Austin Eckler? No, you cannot. So I have two good wide receivers. Are you talking in a mirror? I'm talking to the audience right now. I'm holding on for dear life. And even like there's no one else on.

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the ADP chart anywhere close where I'm like, yeah, that's, I feel like that's a good, reliable source of PPR. I mean, Hopkins and Deontay Johnson are known players, but full attachments to those offenses. I don't know if I want to do it. So what whiteouts are you thinking about? So I'm going to swing for some upside here. Like Christian Watson at this point is like, you missed out on Jaden Reed. He is a man of interest for me because if they do fix. the hamstring injury, it's a big if. But when everyone was healthy in playing for the Packers, I sure, Christian Watson was the number one guy by a lot in terms of targets here. But I'm going to swing and hope that I got Josh Allen's number one wide receiver, Keon Coleman, the rookie for Buffalo. All right, you want Keon Coleman in the eighth round. Hopkins, Ackler, Giovante, Warren, Brian Thomas, who I would have brought up if you had not.

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Already drafted Christian Kirk. Yeah. Brian Robinson, possibly an 8-12 value. They say he's going to catch some passes. Echler and Brian Robinson, both going in the eighth round. Adonai Mitchell, Deonté Johnson, Devin Singletary, Najoku and Goddard. I don't know if Jason's shaking his head because he wanted to Joku later. Purdy. And then, Mike, you're back on the clock. You've got your onesies. You're building depth with these last three picks. Yeah, and... I was happy to take Christian Watson last round, so I am very interested to take him now. Jason made a sound. Well, oh, is that Fergalicious? That was Fergalicious. The final rip cord. I was. Jake Ferguson off the board. Jake Ferguson is the final rip cord of my tight end rankings. I was wanting David Najoku or Ferguson to come back to me. After those guys, there's really.

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No one that I like for a long time, but the name will look good, and this is a mock draft. I'm going to take TJ Hawkinson. I knew it. I knew it. I wanted Ferguson, but it's all right. I'm just going to. So who's your starting tight end? Yeah, it's going to be, Hawkinson will go to IR and I'll pick up a great streamer for week one. Tua Benson Schultz, so you could have drafted. And Goff, you're back on the clock, your second to last pick. It's just real quick. So the team 11, that's an auto drafting team, but they took.

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to and then goff right away on the coming back in. I don't hate that. Not a bad comment. I don't hate that at all. Just the, like the odds of one of those guys being able to be close to plug and play, I think you can hit if you get a both. So I know who my pick is going to be here. I just want to verify my roster. I've got Gibbs, Kyron Williams, and John in the Brooks. To make sure it's still there? Cooper Cup, Tank Dell, Roma, Dunzee, and Calvin Ridley. Well, I know who I want, but I just.

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I'm seeing with Brooks not active, do I need to go running back? You think I need to go running back because I want Jackson Smith and Jigba bad. You need another running back, but I don't have to take it here. Oh, man. Unless you feel like there's a huge tear drop. But that's the first thing I thought of when I looked at your team was Jonathan Brooks could literally not be active and you've got two running backs. Yeah. And when I look at the wide receivers, there's a couple of guys. You know, you could take a shot on Jameson Williams. I love the value here of Jackson Smith and Jigba. I love it.

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But given my roster and given the running backs that are left, how I view them versus where they are in ADP, I think Tajay Spears as a year two guy is going to be a fine running back. It's a PPR. He'll catch a lot of passes. Don't think we've seen him drafted by any of our teams yet. So I will add him to the roster, Tajay Spears. All right. Jameson Williams and Jaden Daniels go next. Mike, you're back on the clock. You no longer have two wideouts. You have four. I have five. Jackson Smith and Jake. Oh, very well done. Curtis Samuel, Gus Bus, Zeke. Those two names were also I thought maybe in consideration for you, Jay. Sutton, Herbert, Lockett, Ford, Dobbs, Chase Brown, Blake Corum, Friam, Friamuth, Musgrave. I almost took Jackson, Jason, because. Did you just abandon trying to say it? Yeah, 100%.

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Jason. You're like, that's a, whatever. Dylan Lauby. Because I wanted Ford to come back to me. I think that would have been. Ford would not have made it pass me. And the fact that you had two picks before me, I knew there was no chance. I wanted him to drop to me. All right, Mike, you're back on the clock. Final pick. So my running back room, like we're only going 11 rounds. So it's a shallow team. Jerome Ford would have been a pretty easy pick for me. You know, get a guy who can, at the beginning of the year, I feel pretty confident at this point. But similar to that, I did bring him up the other day of Chuba Hubbard. Yeah. I think that the start of the year. He's looking great, too. While Jonathan Brooks is recovering, I think that Chuba is, in the 11th round, a guy who, like, you can start. You'll be, I think you'll be able to start him as an RB2. But it's short term. Like, that's a rental, which it's just, what is your strategy?

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And then Kendrae Miller is another interesting name. Second year running back for the New Orleans Saints. You assume they're going to get all this stuff figured out with Camara, but it's a little murky. And then Ty Chandler, I've talked about him and also Marshaun Lloyd for the Green Bay Packers, their rookie running back who, look, if Josh Jacobs is anything close to what he was last year, I think that Marshaun Lloyd will get on the field quickly. And I think he's a player who has some juice and can get some things done. So I'm just going to go that route. I'm going to take Marshawn Lloyd. That was who I was going to take, though, Mike. Oh. A great pick. I like it a lot. I think that's, that's really good. Your team could have had Jason and Lloyd, and then his team has that. Yeah, enjoy your Seahawks with Metcalf as well. So have fun.

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I'm looking at the wide receivers. That's who I would prefer to take, but I don't really love anybody there. Mike Williams, we don't know if he's going to come back. Xavier Leggett. I'm not sure with Bryce if he's going to be a good rookie rookie player. And there is a running back that I actually want some pieces of. I think Lee get here, I mean, if you need a running back at some, but Xavier Lee get a first round rookie wide receiver in the 11th round. Yeah, you could take a shot there. It's a good shot to take. Yeah, I don't mind it at all, but I'm actually going to take a shot.

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on. You're going to get a starting tight in? I'm going to get Zach Charbonnet, a player that we really loved the value of. Yeah. Rookie year was a disappointment behind Kenneth Walker. And then there's a new team in town. And I want to, I still believe in Zach Charbonnet. So as a backup running back is obviously not a starter. I'm fine having them. Why don't you guys run back your rosters as we close out this mayhem mock draft? And then give me, you know. Give me an idea of your sentiment around the situation you've been put in. My running backs, I have Breece Hall, Devon A. Chan, Zach Moss, and Marshawn Lloyd. I have D.K. Metcalf, Christian Kirk, Keon Coleman, Christian Watson, Jackson Smith, and Jigba at my wide receiver crew. Trey McBride is my tight end. Anthony Richardson is my quarterback. I mean, the power of my onesie positions is strong, but it did, it hurt the wide receivers. I need.

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one of Coleman Watson or JSN to come through. And I've got onesies of Jalen Hertz, awesome, and T.J. Hawkinson, clearly awesome and healthy, super healthy. What a big name on your roster. Thank you. I mean, so good last year. Such a great name. Before the catastrophic knee injury. Running backs I've got Gibbs, Karen Williams, Jonathan Brooks, Tajay Spears, and Zach Charbonnet, and a wide receiver, Cooper Cup, Tank Dell, Roma Dunesay, thank you, Mike, and Calvin Ridley. All right, the entire draft board. See that on YouTube if you'd like and go over to YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. In fact, I insist you do. Go over there. You must. Click the bell, subscribe, and follow the show as we have new episodes coming at each and every week, including an AMA episode on Thursday this week. Next week we'll get into early breakouts and sleepers, including early values and bus on Thursday and a whole lot more. So one other quick reminder.

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