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QB & RB Rookie Preview + Dynasty Pants - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/6

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QB & RB Rookie Preview + Dynasty Pants - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/6

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Everybody says he's really smart. And sure, you're supposed to win at Alabama, but he did. 600 more yards than any other quarterback to open receivers. And if you compare him to Tua, who also had this system, I feel like he's way better than Tua. Tua even had better receiving options. He had Devontas Smith. But, you know, you have Jerry Judy gone.

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I don't know if you play with Ridley. But he, you know, it'll miss most of the year. Right. And Mac had a better season. So I do like Mac Jones, but it's hard to evaluate. His dynasty value changes tremendously if he doesn't go number three. Yeah. If he goes number three to San Francisco, it's very significant. You think it's like a significant hit even if he stays in the top 10? Yeah, because I don't think it's a guarantee he's starting. And I just mean like from you go to San Francisco with Kyle Shanahan.

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that's going to be a huge difference than even going to someplace like Denver and not necessarily starting day one and not being in the Shanahan system and not having the draft capital that high. I mean, look, you can go south quick for a top 10 pick. Josh Rosen's a good example of that. Christian Ponder playing Cabbert. Yeah. So I think it just means a lot from a tier aspect for him to go three. Do you think he goes three? No, I do not. You do not? I do think he goes three. I think it's.

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You think it's a smokescreen? I think it's a pure smokescreen. April liar. Yes. I think that I have my odds at Mack Jones, Trey Lance, then Justin Fields. Oh, really? Yeah. I think he's my number three right now for who I think San Francisco will pick. But I've been wrong before. Kyle Trask, last quarterback, I'm sure this is like a Jason shoutout. If Trey Lance does go to number three, goes at three to San Francisco.

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Then how are you feeling about Lance versus Zach Wilson? Stale question. Okay. Only because of the Jimmy Garoppel. If Jimmy Garoppel is out of town, put me on the reluctant Lance train. Okay. Kyle Trask. Yeah, I don't think we need to talk about Kyle Trask much of all here.

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No, I mean, I like him. I do. I like his film. When I watch, I say he looks as good as Mac Jones. To me, he doesn't quite have the same zip. But Peyton Manning didn't throw zip on the ball. He bladed it over people's shoulders perfectly in stride. That's what I see from Kyle Trask. But it seems to me. He had a lot of zip before. He couldn't throw the zip like you said because no one could throw zip. Well, my point is he's, I don't feel like he was a, you know, he was throwing Pat Mahomes heaters here.

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he would just put the ball exactly where it needed to be in stride. And that's what I saw from Kyle Trask, which I really, really liked. But it looks like he's not going to be a first round pick. And if he falls to the second, third round, then he's irrelevant for fantasy. I like the prospect. We'll revisit him if draft capital changes. He needed to come out in the Blaine Gabbard ear. That's what he needed. All right. We're on to running backs. Nobody wants to talk about running backs, do they?

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Oh, man. Just one. Yeah, Mike, you are. Oh, my goodness. I refuse to allow Mike to be the Najee Harris guy. We are. Everybody's a Najee Harris guy. There's not just some that like Nanji Harris. He's the number one running back on most people's boards. Yeah, between him and Travis E.T.N, people are go back and forth. All right. Let's give the quick Najee Harris overview and maybe some.

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favorite potential destinations for Najee Harris to make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. So why it's like, why I'm considered a Najee Harris guy is because he's my number one and it's not, there is no A, there is, it's not A and B. It is Najee. Then space, space, space, space, Travis, T.N. And maybe. Like, every once in a while, I'm like, yeah, I think I like Javentay more than.

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than ETN right now. So I am completely on board with Harris. He is going to just dominate for fantasy purposes. He has closed, he's not as big, but close to Derek Henry type of size. He's 6 to 230 pounds. He except he is agile. He can go out and run routes where Derek Henry can take a swing pass to the house because he's a locomotive. And once he's going, you can't stop him.

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Naji has actual quick twitch acceleration that Derek Henry does not have. They'll turn in high point, a ball in the air on a route. Exactly. I think that he is, he can walk in and instantly be an unquestioned three down running back where ETN maybe, Jivante, maybe. To me, Harris will walk right into a three down roll and will be incredibly valid. He will turn into one of those.

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guys who you're debating should I spend a top three pick on Najee. Now, I only feel like we can say that about rookie running backs when they go in the top 10. He's not going in the top 10. He might not go, he may go back of the first round. You guys were very excited about Jonathan Taylor last year, but the draft capital forced the hand of fantasy players and changed the viewpoint. It moved Clyde to number one. Sure. And it put him on a trajectory where, look, there are only so many destinations in football.

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where you can walk into a three-down roll, and then you compound that with the draft capital where I've seen Najee go second round. Yep, yep, and that is very possible. So to me, that's what separates him from, you know, Christian McCaffrey coming out, or even Leonard Fournett in the first round, or Ezekiel Elliott.

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Yeah, it is definitely a shame that he's not going to be a top 10 guy. He'll be a low in round one guy. We're hoping he goes in the middle. And he could go behind ETN. Absolutely. I think most mock drafts I've seen ETN is ahead. But I think where Mike and I stand together is that the lesson we learned from last year in the Jonathan Taylor and not flipping off of that when that talent, his talent is enough to me where landing spot does not matter. He will be my number one running back.

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I don't care where he goes. You don't care where he'll go. I mean, I care for his future outlook. So Travis E.T.N. goes to Buffalo. I'm sorry. Travis E.T.N. goes to Pittsburgh. Naji Harris goes to Buffalo. You have my attention. Yeah. That didn't take me very long. I don't want that to happen. But the point here is, like, while scouting.

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Najee, you never, ever, ever see one guy tackle him. It takes a village. He's fast. He's got every trade. I have nothing negative to say about Najee Harris. It's my job to bring up these points. The draft capital is one of them. He is older. Yeah, for a year older than Etienne. Yeah, I'm just saying 23 years old already because he was a four year guy. That just means he's got his man body. Right. And he has a man body. What's interesting is like if I think that.

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Miami is probably the number one location to me just because I've seen this. I don't disagree with you. I've seen this coaching staff. Atlanta might not be too bad, though. Atlanta would be great. I'm saying Miami is I've seen the coaching staff. They will give their guy everything. And Najee Harris would, Miles Gaskin's value would just be completely evaporated. So I apologize if you're a Gaskin truth when that happens. An interesting one is.

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Pittsburgh. And let's say you send Najee to Pittsburgh and you send ETN to Miami. Then you can at least have the debate because of the situation that Miami is in, like they're ready to go. And Pittsburgh needs to rebuild their offensive line where Najee's still probably my number one guy in that very specific instance. But I think the point is that...

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I'm trying to make, and I think Jason's trying to make, is it would take a shocking turn of events in the draft to flip someone over Harris for us. I think one of the things that's interesting about the running back class, there's a lot of talent at the very top, but there aren't destinations that are making, even, you know, you have to find one, right? Like Miami, okay, I'm pretty happy with Miami. We would have been pretty happy if Aaron Jones went there. But rookie's second round,

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Miami has some talent there running back. I wish there were two or three destinations where I felt like he gets drafted there tomorrow and he's being drafted number one in a rookie draft. And I just don't think that that's necessarily going to happen. Do you think he goes to the Jets? You're looking at him that way? Yeah. I would be. The Jets, the Steelers, the Dolphins.

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Who, you know, there's a few destinations. Arizona. Yeah. All right. Travis E.T.N. We'll talk about him briefly. Big play guy, big burst player, great pass catcher, which can make a tremendous impact in fantasy. If he ends up in a three-down role where you're not doubting that part of the Travis E.T.N equation, I have no problem personally drafting him ahead of Naji Harris. I am letting.

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fate decide between those two in my rookie drafts. I'm letting that destination make the decision for me because I think ETN isn't an elite category. You guys have, or at least Mike has huge space between the two of them, but both four-year starters, both four-year starters at perennial national championship programs. The knock on ETN was the senior season didn't usurp the previous two, you know, eight-a-carry monster seasons.

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But he did catch the ball a ton. Yeah, that changed. He really worked on being a pass catcher. He was talked to about it. When ETHN got into college, he was nervous. He was scared to catch the ball. That's not a part of his game that he wanted to be involved in, but he knew that to make it in the NFL. He had to work on it. Clearly he did. The biggest separator, I mean, aside from size, but the separator, funny is the knock you can give to Harris is.

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he does lack long speed. You know, the home run, Derek Henry or Adrian Peterson type of speed. Harris doesn't have that, and I don't care. But ETN absolutely has that he has, and he has the extra gear and kind of has that the gnawes sitting in the backpack that he can just click on whenever he feels like it, that Harris doesn't have that extra gear.

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There is some concerns. You know, when you look at Najee Harris, you know he's going to be able to sustain in between the tackle work all the time. EETN is a player that, you know, when you saw him have success, the collegiate, bounce it to the outside, use the speed to get there. That can be something that breaks down when you're 510, 205 at the next level. If you don't get to, you know, you're facing athletes of a different caliber, although Clemson faced a lot of pretty good athletes, that would be the one.

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It's not impossible. Kind of worry. And him potentially just not being a three-down back in the NFL. He could be drafted to a team that decides to use him as a compliment. Yeah, 205 pounds. He might not be the goal line back. I think that would be a mistake because Alvin Camara is great around the goal line. And that's kind of a, I've got him as like a poor man's Alvin-Camara comp. But he is very good. There's three good backs this year. So let's talk about the third one. Yeah, Javante Williams, North Carolina, shared the backfield, broke the.

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Pro football focused record for broken tackles per attempt. Yeah, he is very elusive. 75 broken tackles, led the country, elite contact balance, three seasons, but his final season was the most impressive 19 touchdowns on the ground. And on top of that, he is sharing, he had to share the field with Michael Carter. Yet still had a college dominator score the same as Najee. We're a little bit lower on Michael Carter.

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here, I think, compared to the consensus out there. I like Carter. But Carter will be drafted. Carter is going to be on an NFL team. So to have to split time with another NFL pro and still have the success that Williams had, that says a lot. When I was watching Williams, my comp, you talked about the contact balance, Andy. I felt like I was watching the Kareem Hunt tape out of Toledo. Sure.

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It takes a lot to make him lose his balance to knock him off his center of gravity. People just bounce off of him. It's a triangle. And he made, yes, yeah, he's just, he's planted. He's rooted into the ground. His passing production profile wasn't as great as Cream Hunt, but man, that's who my comp was. And that's not something I, one, you don't hand out a Cream Hunt comp lightly. You certainly don't. But two.

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That's not, my bag is not recognizing a NFL pro while I'm watching a college player. So that the fact that that actually jumped out to me was, was a pretty big deal for my scouting of like, this player is going to be great. Yeah, I think he's going to be very, very good, but I don't think great. Yeah, you know, I'm going to be great, Jason. He's got, he's shifty. He's powerful, but he's good at everything elite.

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