QB & RB Rookie Preview + Dynasty Pants - Fantasy Football Podcast for 4/6

You know, San Francisco might end up better for him than another destination, but that's just where we're at, I think, is hopeful that he finds a good home. Interesting. So, Trey Lance, we're going to talk about Trey Lance next. Yes, yeah, because this is in, we're talking about fantasy rankings, and both Jason and I have, we have great doubts. I have great doubts that Trey Lance will be able to translate into an NFL quarterback. But.

For fantasy purposes, I'm going to take the shot on him before I go to Zach Wilson. Oh, the first big disagreement on the show, Jason? Yeah. So I have right now, as far as fantasy football rankings, I have Trey Lance ahead of Zach Wilson. That will, I expect, probably change after the NFL draft because I think Zach Wilson will be starting game one. And I think there's a good chance that wherever Trey Lance goes.

He's behind some. You know, if the Falcons were to draft him, then Matt Ryan's a starter, Trey Lance is the future, in which case those would easily flip-plop. But I think what Mike and I are saying here is, you know, this is a guy, like you just brought up Fields is more of a Russell-Wilson type of runner. He's not a guy that had 1,000 yards rushing. You had, you know, 480 yards rushing. This is a Josh Allen, Cam Newton, Trey Lance is a 1,000-yard rusher. You rest for 1,100 yards in...

his really his only starting season. Right, which was 2019. COVID took away the 2020 program. They only had one game, which wasn't that great for him this year. So for fantasy purposes, if they were both starters in the NFL, year one, I would put Trey Lance ahead. Yeah, yeah, that's a big if. I mean, I don't know if Trey Lance is going to be able to make it in the next level. He was the player I was least impressed of the top prospects with on film.

I don't think he's going to be able to do it with his arm. I didn't see him make. You know, it was run first, run first, run first, first, first read, run first. I have great concern. And the one-year sample size, I have pretty significant concerns with Trey Lance. And so that's a big if to me. Like, Zach Wilson is definitively higher for me, but Lance is somebody that, you know.

he's going to be the biggest risk for an NFL team. Yeah, you have a lot of comparisons to Josh Allen here. He played it, you know, a slightly smaller school like Josh Allen did. So weaker competition, beat up on those guys was very, very successful, dominated in the rushing game, has a massive cannon of an arm. So there's a ton of similarities there. And honestly, I think that that should give. Right. And I think that should give confidence to, you know, to the Foot Clan to what Andy's saying, Andy, you are on.

Josh Allen. You believed that Josh Allen would have a successful future while a lot of people didn't. And here you are looking at Trey Lance. You don't like the film. I certainly didn't like it as much as Josh Allen. While people talk about his cannon arm, it is not Josh Allen-esque. I don't believe his arm can rival Josh Allen's. And as a runner, he seems...

not quite as strong and tough as when I I literally after I was done watching Trey Lance film I went back and watched Josh Allen college film because I just you know it's been a long time since I've watched that and you people that got a hold of Trey Lance if they got a hold of them in the backfield they swing them to the ground people got a hold of Josh Allen left right and center and he's like

Be off, you little people. And you just, you could never get him down in that weak competition. So I don't think my notes on Trey Lance, he's a phenomenal rusher, but I'm not sure if his rushing will translate as well when he's playing NFL caliber. So I agree he is not quite.

a guaranteed prospect here. Well, he's a tough decision for fantasy players because I do think he's the kind of player that would benefit from sitting behind and experienced quarterback for a couple of years. I don't know. Is that an option for Atlanta, right? Where Matt Ryan starts and then you can develop Tray Lance. He's extremely young. I believe that's not even 21 yet. I believe that is the best landing spot for him for the man, Trey Lance. If I could pick my destination, that's where I would pick. And it's worth noting Fookland.

This is supposed to be, you know, every year things are touted differently, and we're talking about the quarterbacks that are at hand. But this is supposed to be one of the best quarterback draft classes in years. These five or maybe even six prospects are all highly touted first round grades. All right, we will. This show is meant to be more of an overview than a deep dive on these players because we want to make you aware of who's coming out, who to pay attention to in the draft.

and who to do your research on, depending on where you're at in your rookie drafts. So I don't want to linger too long on certain players. So we're not meaning to exhaust everything you could say about these players that exist. But Zach Wilson, let's talk about him. He should go number two to the Jets. I think we all would be shocked if that didn't take place. Very, very impressive arm.

Yeah, he has a big arm and quick delivery. Makes throws from ridiculous angles with ridiculous speed. He makes the Mahomes-Rogers type of whip throws on the regular with a level of frivolity that those players are able to play with when you can make those throws. I do think that this is a pretty scary proposition for a team. You need to...

believe that Zach Wilson has his head on straight and wants to be great at the next level. Where are you guys with Wilson's upset? I guess I get the impression that Mike you're a little lower on him than the consensus. Jay Kotler was the comp that came out to me on film from an arm. Because Jay Cutler's arm was unbelievable. Jack Cutler had his time in the sun for fantasy purposes. Like Wilson.

One thing when I'm watching him that stands out is he had the benefit of playing behind an incredible offensive line. There was several plays where I'm watching, Wilson, stand back there forever. And it's like, dude, that's not happening in the NFL. Every once in a while you'll get a team with a super dominant offensive line. I get that. But if you're going to the Jets, that will not be happening. You're going to have to make decisions a lot faster.

You will not have that gift of being able to sit there and wait for somebody to get open. Now, I'm not trying to trash Wilson. I think he is an impressive talent. My note essentially to Jason before the show was like, I think he has all the traits. He has all the abilities that he can succeed. Now, can he turn that into actual fantasy football dominance?

It's getting harder and harder for players who don't really run, quarterbacks who don't run to actually be great for fantasy football. Like the era of, well, Brady's going to be around forever. But Herbert would be the example. And that in Herbert did do it. That would be the kind of player I see Zach Wilson to be. Right. So it's not impossible. Just saying that it is getting harder and harder, which is why.

In my rookie drafts, I'm going to take the upside instead of Zach. Like, Zach Wilson, sure, he could be, you know, a cool, low-end quarterback one. But making, if he hits, here I'll put it this way, if he hits and Trey Lance hits, Trey Lance's fantasy ceiling is, like, it's not even in the stratosphere for Wilson. Much higher risk, though. So it depends on your tolerance for that. Yeah, Zach Wilson on film looks great.

He's got the tools. He's got the arsenal. I am very skeptical of the competition he played. It was super, super weak, and it's a chicken or the egg thing, right? Because you look at his game splits against good teams when he played against teams with nine wins or more. He had a seven to nine touchdown to interception ratio versus in the other games. He was unbelievable. But then only one of those came in 2020. So did he get better? You know, this is the question is in 2020.

Did he really take a step up and become an elite quarterback worthy of the number two spot, which obviously the Jets think so, and I think a lot of people do? Or was his competition really, really, really bad this year, which it was. And that's why he was good. I don't know. But it scares me. It scares me when you have one year of weak competition that you could end up with a Trubisky. I think where Mike and I differed on opinion-wise with Wilson is simply.

the long-term ceiling for Zach Wilson. When he talks about Tray Lance hitting, that would be very, very significant for fantasy purposes. But I think Wilson represents an arm talent, the kind of player that can hit on a, I mean, maybe it's only a one-and-twenty chance of his career arcs, but I do think that the Rogers Mahomes type of future is a possibility. It might be a low probability possibility, which is not the most fun thing to say. But it's still...

It's still a reality in my world. And he'll have some weapons. He'll have some opportunities. This is going to be a rebuilt Jets team. Mack Jones. Excuse me. Who? Are you talking about Michael McCorkle Jones? Michael McCorkel. So just before the show, we decided to check in on why Mac Jones is called Mac Jones. Mike was very curious. He said, well, I said who, when you have your child.

And they say, what's, what's his name? Mac. I'm going to name a Mac. Do people, I know there's people out there that go by Mac, but in my head, I started thinking. Middle name Donald. Does that. Sorry. That's so stupid. Yeah. Good MacDonald joke. But is MacDonald actually short for something? I was not aware. Well, it's short for one of the most common middle names in the English language. McCorical. Which is McCorical.

Michael McCorkel. And so now you know why he goes by Mac. Yeah. If you had McCorkel. To survive. To survive. Come on. Michael McCorkel, he doesn't get first team reps. No way. He gets. Mac Jones. Lunch money taken. Gets first team reps. But football wise, how do you feel about Mac Jones? A lot of rumors about Mac Jones at three as well. Is it Justin Fields? Is it Trey Lans? Is it Mac Jones? We don't know.

Kyle Shanahan seems to like Mac Jones. Rumors coming out of San Francisco is that's the side that he's on. There's others in the organization that like Trey Lance, others that like Justin Fields. I will be honest with you. I didn't want to like Mac Jones. Period. Didn't want to like an Alabama quarterback. Is it because of the name? I didn't want to like a McCorical. No, I didn't know it was a McCorkal. You know, there's some characteristics on the surface reading a book by its cover. I didn't want to like Mac Jones.

But I do. Not the supreme athlete. But I like him more than I thought I would on film. I think he's a pretty capable NFL ready quarterback. I think he's a player that, you know, this is the difficult thing about what Jason said. When you have five or six quarterbacks coming out that all have first round grades, you know, some of years, Blaine Gabbard's the best thing on the table. Right.

And in a certain year, Mac Jones is the number one picking this draft. Wasn't that the Christian ponder year, too? Yeah, I mean, there was a Christian ponder year. That's all you need to know. There are years where you're like, oh, we need a quarterback. Mac Jones in a different landscape. No, Trevor Lawrence, you know, he could be the first guy off the board. Sure. There is, I think some of his draft stock is impacted by the Alabama aspect, right? You have.

You play at Alabama, you're playing with the best players around you on both sides of the ball every single game. But what I like about Mac Jones on film is this is a player that, look, you look at what does elusive quarterback play mean? Well, it doesn't just mean running away from everybody. It doesn't just mean being too big and strong to throw people off of you. Sometimes it means...

being a pocket presence player. And Mac Jones is, and he's got very, very quick feet in the pocket. He moves around and puts himself, you know, a yard this way, a yard that way to avoid pressure, make the downfield throws. In my opinion, I was pretty impressed with Mac Jones. So I do think he has right home, he has a chance. Yeah, I mean, one of the tough parts about evaluating Mac Jones is that if he is truly great, if he is, you know, a next.

best thing that's really above the shoulders it's not something that i can see on film because i don't really know what was called in the huddle i don't know how much was him how much was him changing something at the line how much was the you know i can i can try to say okay it looks like there's a second read but you don't know did he did he go to this you know when you're scouting if we're just being honest did he say i'm going to go to that guy on that side of the field so this is why i'm looking to the right before the snap you don't know